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BrettNYG10 : 5/28/2022 9:46 am
8pm start time. Rangers win 11-0.

Good morning, Carl.

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RE: Im also the greatest typer  
Route 9 : 5/29/2022 2:29 am : link
In comment 15720728 FrankHuntington said:
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Ever


I have to watch games at work so I'm watching them on my phone. I'd be in the game threads screaming how the Rangers are screwed over by the refs every other second. That's why I'm not on here as much, Daniel.
RE: Lol  
FrankHuntington : 5/29/2022 2:31 am : link
In comment 15720726 Route 9 said:
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Says the guy who was fighting with another poster about being a gym teacher and how great of a stock brocker they are in the middle of a game.


Yea, that didnt happen....I very rarely post during games...that happened well after the game was over dipshit. Lol.

But keep up the good work. Cant wait for your next bit of tremendous insight after the game on Monday and then the inevitable "I was with them the whole time" posts that are to inevitably follow if they win.

You literally gave up on this team after game 3 or 4 against Pitt and are now back on the bandwagon.


Jesus just stfu.
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Route 9 : 5/29/2022 2:34 am : link
Right. It was after the game. Sorry. It was funny. Funny in the send that is the guy who is talking down to me or ... at least trying to
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Route 9 : 5/29/2022 2:34 am : link
Right. It was after the game. Sorry. It was funny. Funny in the send that is the guy who is talking down to me or ... at least trying to
......  
Route 9 : 5/29/2022 2:35 am : link
In the sense that*
Anak, where the hell  
FrankHuntington : 5/29/2022 2:40 am : link
Were your seats???? You didnt recognize Colton Orr? You called Joe Schoen "coach?" You had one chance at NYG internship and you called the GM coach? That's like calling a judge by his first name in court. Lol


Glad you had fun and that you got to be amonst all those celebs....even if they had to move back the fence line on you. 😉
I have missed the last 9 playoff games in Eorope  
Rick in Dallas : 5/29/2022 2:45 am : link
On a trip we were supposed to take 2 years ago.
I am so proud of this Rangers team. The valuable playoff experience for the kids and that include Igor is tremendous.
The 7th game is winnable in Carolina just play your Ranger game. Physical forecheck and backcheck and coverage responsibility.
We can do this guys.
Let’s go Rangers!!!!
RE: We want the Cup  
Route 9 : 5/29/2022 5:29 am : link
In comment 15720707 kcgiants said:
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We want the Cup
We want the Cup


Now, now, now.

We will have none of that. See, the goal here is to temper expectations and clap for a good effort.

You can't want ... but you can have a pragmatic approach. Get it?
job done, now win it there. Much more energetic and physical but  
Victor in CT : 5/29/2022 7:14 am : link
I didn't think they played all that well. Thankfully Igor did his thing and we have a chance to advance. They were hemmed in their own zone for LOOOOOONG stretches.

Chytil is really maturing before our eyes. Decisive with the puck, physical and skilled. And refreshingly not shy about shooting.

Goodrow made a difference. Faceoffs alone were worth it.

Where is Kreider? He's picked a hell of a time to disappear.

Panarin actually took a shot!! :-)

Just this non-Rangers fans opinion  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2022 7:22 am : link
I think whatever view a fan has is fine - who is anyone else to say what is right or wrong, but I do think both things are true.

1. The Rangers were underestimated by many fans and media (though not all the media). And they are right where they should be. Not gravy or house money or a year early. Once they learned Igor is the goods and extended Mika and Kreider and signed Goodrow to a team who already had Panarin and Trouba you no longer had a year or two before being expected to contend. And the Rangers had the perfect playoff makeup IMO - elite goalie, high end top line talent, and a solid top 4 D.


2. The learning experience from their 6 young players is meaningful and can help down the road.

Just my personal opinion is I would have been disappointed if they lost to PIT, that would have been a disaster IMO - the Rangers were favored in that series and had home ice. I also thought the Rangers matched up well vs Carolina the one thing I didn't expect was Raanta to be as good as he was in those few games when he was really good. So I did expect the Rangers to win this series. I think they can beat Tampa too, only the different thing with Tampa is that Vasilevskiy is not a 2nd or 3rd string goalie so it will be the first series/playoff game other than the Jarry game 7 where they face a starting goalie so if the Rangers win Monday it wouldn't be a shock for them to lose to TB, but I think they will win because the Rangers have more talent than TBL except on the blue line where TBL has an edge, but TB D is not physical and the Rangers can exploit them.
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Route 9 : 5/29/2022 7:25 am : link
TB's time has got to run out soon right?

I mean they are 1.53x defending champions. Somebody has to knock their block off pretty soon.
Brayden  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2022 7:28 am : link
Point, TBL best player, is likely out the entire ECF (at least), I don't think TB has the fire power to beat a team with a goalie like Igor.

I don't think they'd beat CAR either.
I watched the game  
SJGiant : 5/29/2022 7:55 am : link
On delay. My opinion is that Igor’s interference penalty saved the Rangers ass. Three of the five Rangers were stuck on the ice out of gas. The stoppage in play allowed the Rangers to regroup with new players and ultimately changed the momentum of the game at that time. Just my opinion. The Rangers probably win anyway but it would have been a much closer game.

Good to see Anak at the game last night.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/29/2022 8:17 am : link
RE: I watched the game  
ColHowPepper : 5/29/2022 9:08 am : link
In comment 15720758 SJGiant said:
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On delay. My opinion is that Igor’s interference penalty saved the Rangers ass. Three of the five Rangers were stuck on the ice out of gas. The stoppage in play allowed the Rangers to regroup with new players and ultimately changed the momentum of the game at that time. Just my opinion....
Though it's sometimes difficult to make out the Q&A via translator in the PG, I think Igor as much as said that was his intention. But when a penalty is called, can you change lines, why would it be any different from the lesser sanction of an icing? Not sure
Goodrow  
Costy16 : 5/29/2022 9:21 am : link
Gives them a stout 4th line and GG put them out there for the opening draw. Goodrow’s presence seems to have allowed Motte to get more comfortable attacking offensively.
CHP  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2022 9:26 am : link
question for you about Igor - and it's not a criticism - he's probably the best goalie on the planet right now. but is it just me or does he over emphasize his glove - what I mean is he'll make a glove save and then "snatch" or whatever you call it and like a split second after the save like Patrick Roy used to do - just wondering of there's a technical reason for it or if he's just hamming it up (like I always thought Roy was doing).

this isn't a great example of it, but maybe there's a reason for it.

RE: Brayden  
Servo 2.0 : 5/29/2022 9:28 am : link
In comment 15720748 pjcas18 said:
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Point, TBL best player, is likely out the entire ECF (at least), I don't think TB has the fire power to beat a team with a goalie like Igor.

I don't think they'd beat CAR either.


From a player’s perspective, how much of a factor do you think fatigue would be given that TB swept?
RE: RE: Brayden  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2022 9:34 am : link
In comment 15720794 Servo 2.0 said:
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Point, TBL best player, is likely out the entire ECF (at least), I don't think TB has the fire power to beat a team with a goalie like Igor.

I don't think they'd beat CAR either.



From a player’s perspective, how much of a factor do you think fatigue would be given that TB swept?


I really think fans/media view fatigue as an issue more than the players. They're playing a game every other day.

most of these guys are in peak physical shape. I don't see rest being a big advantage.

I think the only thing the rest allows for the resting team is to get healthier. But Point is their best player and he won't be back for the conference finals from what I read.

RE: Kreider and Hoya  
ColHowPepper : 5/29/2022 9:34 am : link
In comment 15720671 pjcas18 said:...If I were Gallant I'd consider putting Lafreniere on the PP1 for Kreider. He won't, but I would. [/quote]
Couldn't agree more. He looks withdrawn, his play is passive, at best, doesn't finish checks, skating desultory, shots perfunctory. After game 2 and his repeated, hangdog 'can't sit back' comments, I made a post on that, because it seemed to me he opened a window to his mindset. Then more of the same in his post-game 5; the optics were awful. He seems to know it.

Hoya, nice comments, agree, this season has been an early x-mas gift (except to pj): and of the kids you mention, who could have expected 20-year old #45 to have the season he's having, and to my eyes improving as the post-season wears on. Not perfect but I thought he had a tremendous game last night. And after the fits and starts of the kids-line (KK out for ~25 games; he and Laf at various times relegated to the 4th), here they are carrying the team and ESPN singing their praises for an entire NA hockey world to see and hear.

And who could have expected them to be outplaying their older, more experienced, more highly paid vets? Electrifying.
Monday night, second line  
ColHowPepper : 5/29/2022 9:37 am : link
I don't know if Gallant sees it this way, but he has to do something about the 2nd line: it has been such a defensive liability, especially in Raleigh. Like pj mused what GG will not do, taking Kreider off PP1, I would put Goodrow at 2C and drop Strome: with Copp, that line has good semblance of two-way play and Panarin alone is not such a liability.
RE: RE: RE: Brayden  
Servo 2.0 : 5/29/2022 9:48 am : link
In comment 15720798 pjcas18 said:
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Point, TBL best player, is likely out the entire ECF (at least), I don't think TB has the fire power to beat a team with a goalie like Igor.

I don't think they'd beat CAR either.



From a player’s perspective, how much of a factor do you think fatigue would be given that TB swept?



I really think fans/media view fatigue as an issue more than the players. They're playing a game every other day.

most of these guys are in peak physical shape. I don't see rest being a big advantage.

I think the only thing the rest allows for the resting team is to get healthier. But Point is their best player and he won't be back for the conference finals from what I read.


Thanks. That’s what I was hoping you would say!
RE: ......  
Bear vs Shark : 5/29/2022 9:53 am : link
In comment 15720720 Route 9 said:
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I have no issue with the "casual fan" label ( I know I've said this before many times on here) given by some stranger. I will admit that I'm more into the Giants than I am the Rangers. I mean last time that I checked this is a New York Giants football board, no?

Sorry if I do not meet the requirements of a "hardcore fan" who spends everyday giving the final breakdown about 6th round draft picks who are 17 years old.
It isn't that. It's that you keep whining about the same shit for a team that has already greatly exceeded the expectations that were set for them going into the season.

It's like complaining about the Giants this year if they go 10-6, win a wild card game, and get bounced in the divisional round.

there's a big difference between knowing every 6th round pick and at least being somewhat informed about the team you ostensibly root for.
RE: CHP  
ColHowPepper : 5/29/2022 9:55 am : link
In comment 15720793 pjcas18 said:
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question for you about Igor - and it's not a criticism - he's probably the best goalie on the planet right now. but is it just me or does he over emphasize his glove - what I mean is he'll make a glove save and then "snatch" or whatever you call it and like a split second after the save like Patrick Roy used to do - just wondering of there's a technical reason for it or if he's just hamming it up (like I always thought Roy was doing).

this isn't a great example of it, but maybe there's a reason for it.

It's a fine example, clues me in. Think the snatch is to counter the wobble of the glove so the puck does not leak out the outer edge. Stationary, a hard shot might have such force as to bend the glove back and result in 'leakage' (not a hockey term lol), with the puck squirting out the end and loss of control. I think the snatch counters that and keeps it tucked in the pocket. just a guess
RE: RE: I watched the game  
SJGiant : 5/29/2022 9:57 am : link
In comment 15720782 ColHowPepper said:
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On delay. My opinion is that Igor’s interference penalty saved the Rangers ass. Three of the five Rangers were stuck on the ice out of gas. The stoppage in play allowed the Rangers to regroup with new players and ultimately changed the momentum of the game at that time. Just my opinion....

Though it's sometimes difficult to make out the Q&A via translator in the PG, I think Igor as much as said that was his intention. But when a penalty is called, can you change lines, why would it be any different from the lesser sanction of an icing? Not sure


You can change lines after a penalty is called. Icing is when you cannot change players unless there is an injury.
Pre season expectations mean nothing  
BigBlueShock : 5/29/2022 10:12 am : link
Expectations are constantly changing. People have the right to look at things how they want to but me personally, I don’t understand how anyone is ok with a a game 7 loss simply because the team exceeded their expectations coming into the season. The assumption that they are young so they will surely be back here again is fools gold. History is littered with young, up and coming teams in all sports that never reached their potential. When the opportunity arises, embrace it. This opportunity may never come again for this group, regardless of how young the team is. It’s certainly not a given and shouldn’t be considered as such.

The 2017 Yankees made it to game 7 of the ALCS and lost. But they were a year earlier than expected so everyone just assumed they’d be back and win multiple championships with that young core. They haven’t been back since…
RE: RE: ......  
Route 9 : 5/29/2022 10:40 am : link
In comment 15720812 Bear vs Shark said:
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It isn't that. It's that you keep whining about the same shit for a team that has already greatly exceeded the expectations that were set for them going into the season.

It's like complaining about the Giants this year if they go 10-6, win a wild card game, and get bounced in the divisional round.

there's a big difference between knowing every 6th round pick and at least being somewhat informed about the team you ostensibly root for.


It's not that? Oh. i was called a casual fan by another poster, which I had I had no issue with. That's what that was a response to, actually.

So when the Giants went 10-5-1 with Fassel in his first year in 1997, and they blew that game late against Minnesota, everyone just shrugged that loss off? I don't think so. We still talk about that game on here to this day.

Also. Again. I didn't have the Rangers this year because of the MSG Network spat with Xfinity. I'll watch every game when I can. It's the beginning of the seasons that I'm not as tuned into because ... That's football season and my main concern is the Giants.
RE: Pre season expectations mean nothing  
Costy16 : 5/29/2022 11:28 am : link
In comment 15720831 BigBlueShock said:
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Expectations are constantly changing. People have the right to look at things how they want to but me personally, I don’t understand how anyone is ok with a a game 7 loss simply because the team exceeded their expectations coming into the season. The assumption that they are young so they will surely be back here again is fools gold. History is littered with young, up and coming teams in all sports that never reached their potential. When the opportunity arises, embrace it. This opportunity may never come again for this group, regardless of how young the team is. It’s certainly not a given and shouldn’t be considered as such.

The 2017 Yankees made it to game 7 of the ALCS and lost. But they were a year earlier than expected so everyone just assumed they’d be back and win multiple championships with that young core. They haven’t been back since…


Agree 100%. The Rangers are here now and are in the thick of this thing. They know they can beat the Hurricanes, they just have to do it in Raleigh.
RE: RE: RE: ......  
Bear vs Shark : 5/29/2022 11:31 am : link
In comment 15720843 Route 9 said:
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It isn't that. It's that you keep whining about the same shit for a team that has already greatly exceeded the expectations that were set for them going into the season.

It's like complaining about the Giants this year if they go 10-6, win a wild card game, and get bounced in the divisional round.

there's a big difference between knowing every 6th round pick and at least being somewhat informed about the team you ostensibly root for.



It's not that? Oh. i was called a casual fan by another poster, which I had I had no issue with. That's what that was a response to, actually.

So when the Giants went 10-5-1 with Fassel in his first year in 1997, and they blew that game late against Minnesota, everyone just shrugged that loss off? I don't think so. We still talk about that game on here to this day.

Also. Again. I didn't have the Rangers this year because of the MSG Network spat with Xfinity. I'll watch every game when I can. It's the beginning of the seasons that I'm not as tuned into because ... That's football season and my main concern is the Giants.
People didn't shrug it off because of the way they lost, not because they lost.

Anyway, whatever, IDGAF. You do you.
Ok  
Route 9 : 5/29/2022 11:38 am : link
Yeah ....

Neither do I.

If that Blues team can win the whole thing from a few years back, so can the Rangers.

The 2011-2012 Devils were another weird team who made it as far as the SCF who stretched that series to 6 games. I remember no one saw that coming. Montreal got in last year. That was one of the worst teams I've seen in a championship series or game ... in my life.
RE: Anak, where the hell  
Anakim : 5/29/2022 11:43 am : link
In comment 15720735 FrankHuntington said:
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Were your seats???? You didnt recognize Colton Orr? You called Joe Schoen "coach?" You had one chance at NYG internship and you called the GM coach? That's like calling a judge by his first name in court. Lol


Glad you had fun and that you got to be amonst all those celebs....even if they had to move back the fence line on you. 😉


Row 6. I was above one of the tunnels.

Oh, FFS. It's Colton Orr. Like I'm supposed to recognize goon scrubs. Maybe next time I can run into Dale Purinton or Sandy McCarthy.

Yeah, that Joe Schoen thing was embarrassing. Fucking stupid. I just hope he doesn't remember my voice!
RE: RE: Anak, where the hell  
FrankHuntington : 5/29/2022 12:15 pm : link
In comment 15720874 Anakim said:
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Were your seats???? You didnt recognize Colton Orr? You called Joe Schoen "coach?" You had one chance at NYG internship and you called the GM coach? That's like calling a judge by his first name in court. Lol


Glad you had fun and that you got to be amonst all those celebs....even if they had to move back the fence line on you. 😉



Row 6. I was above one of the tunnels.

Oh, FFS. It's Colton Orr. Like I'm supposed to recognize goon scrubs. Maybe next time I can run into Dale Purinton or Sandy McCarthy.

Yeah, that Joe Schoen thing was embarrassing. Fucking stupid. I just hope he doesn't remember my voice!



Lol, I was kidding. McCarthy is very recognizable bit I thimk Orr was my favorite brawler ever. Re: Schoen, Im pretty sure he doesnt remember every girl who screams his name, so I think you're fine...as long as you didnt try and kiss him too.

Medsing with you.
RE: RE: RE: Anak, where the hell  
Anakim : 5/29/2022 12:37 pm : link
In comment 15720879 FrankHuntington said:
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Were your seats???? You didnt recognize Colton Orr? You called Joe Schoen "coach?" You had one chance at NYG internship and you called the GM coach? That's like calling a judge by his first name in court. Lol


Glad you had fun and that you got to be amonst all those celebs....even if they had to move back the fence line on you. 😉



Row 6. I was above one of the tunnels.

Oh, FFS. It's Colton Orr. Like I'm supposed to recognize goon scrubs. Maybe next time I can run into Dale Purinton or Sandy McCarthy.

Yeah, that Joe Schoen thing was embarrassing. Fucking stupid. I just hope he doesn't remember my voice!




Lol, I was kidding. McCarthy is very recognizable bit I thimk Orr was my favorite brawler ever. Re: Schoen, Im pretty sure he doesnt remember every girl who screams his name, so I think you're fine...as long as you didnt try and kiss him too.

Medsing with you.


Haha, I know. I don't think I have a favorite brawler. Domi and Kocur were a bit before my time, guys like Purinton, McCarthy, Hollweg, Boogaard (RIP), Brashear (douche), Rupp. I guess maybe Prust, but after what he did to Stepan, he can go fuck right off. Dorsett? Meh.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Anak, where the hell  
Anakim : 5/29/2022 12:37 pm : link
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Were your seats???? You didnt recognize Colton Orr? You called Joe Schoen "coach?" You had one chance at NYG internship and you called the GM coach? That's like calling a judge by his first name in court. Lol


Glad you had fun and that you got to be amonst all those celebs....even if they had to move back the fence line on you. 😉



Row 6. I was above one of the tunnels.

Oh, FFS. It's Colton Orr. Like I'm supposed to recognize goon scrubs. Maybe next time I can run into Dale Purinton or Sandy McCarthy.

Yeah, that Joe Schoen thing was embarrassing. Fucking stupid. I just hope he doesn't remember my voice!




Lol, I was kidding. McCarthy is very recognizable bit I thimk Orr was my favorite brawler ever. Re: Schoen, Im pretty sure he doesnt remember every girl who screams his name, so I think you're fine...as long as you didnt try and kiss him too.

Medsing with you.



Haha, I know. I don't think I have a favorite brawler. Domi and Kocur were a bit before my time, guys like Purinton, McCarthy, Hollweg, Boogaard (RIP), Brashear (douche), Rupp. I guess maybe Prust, but after what he did to Stepan, he can go fuck right off. Dorsett? Meh.


Guys like those guys were so one-dimensional. They didn't offer much unless they were throwing down.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Anak, where the hell  
FrankHuntington : 5/29/2022 12:44 pm : link
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Were your seats???? You didnt recognize Colton Orr? You called Joe Schoen "coach?" You had one chance at NYG internship and you called the GM coach? That's like calling a judge by his first name in court. Lol


Glad you had fun and that you got to be amonst all those celebs....even if they had to move back the fence line on you. 😉



Row 6. I was above one of the tunnels.

Oh, FFS. It's Colton Orr. Like I'm supposed to recognize goon scrubs. Maybe next time I can run into Dale Purinton or Sandy McCarthy.

Yeah, that Joe Schoen thing was embarrassing. Fucking stupid. I just hope he doesn't remember my voice!




Lol, I was kidding. McCarthy is very recognizable bit I thimk Orr was my favorite brawler ever. Re: Schoen, Im pretty sure he doesnt remember every girl who screams his name, so I think you're fine...as long as you didnt try and kiss him too.

Medsing with you.



Haha, I know. I don't think I have a favorite brawler. Domi and Kocur were a bit before my time, guys like Purinton, McCarthy, Hollweg, Boogaard (RIP), Brashear (douche), Rupp. I guess maybe Prust, but after what he did to Stepan, he can go fuck right off. Dorsett? Meh.



Guys like those guys were so one-dimensional. They didn't offer much unless they were throwing down.


Part of ehy I like Reaves so much. Not only is he THEE baddest, but you dont lose TOO much with him on the 4th line. He is really good along the boards and freeing up the puck.

Is it me or has Lindgren stepped up his game big time this postseason? Im not saying it just because pj pointed out that Lindgren was growi g on him, but he has been so much quicker in puck retrieval and he is even punching in on the offensive zone more.
I hit send too quickly  
FrankHuntington : 5/29/2022 12:46 pm : link
His game kinda reminds me of Adam Foote's. Brings a heavy game to cancel out defenders and is mostly stay at home, but is willing to get into the offense.
it's the pj factor (:  
ColHowPepper : 5/29/2022 1:41 pm : link
Not saying your views are off, agree with them, but I think his importance to the team jumped into sharp relief when he missed games with the lbinjury and Fox struggled so. It's way clear his importance is not lost on his teammates, not high profile headline grabber, sticks to his knitting, is always there to stand up to hooliganism vs his teammates--long time bedrock. Like newer versions Motte, Goodrow.
RE: it's the pj factor (:  
FrankHuntington : 5/29/2022 1:50 pm : link
In comment 15720906 ColHowPepper said:
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Not saying your views are off, agree with them, but I think his importance to the team jumped into sharp relief when he missed games with the lbinjury and Fox struggled so. It's way clear his importance is not lost on his teammates, not high profile headline grabber, sticks to his knitting, is always there to stand up to hooliganism vs his teammates--long time bedrock. Like newer versions Motte, Goodrow.



Haha. I think the main thing is how underrated his skating and puck handling is given his game. I was kind of getting down on him because of how light his hit game was becoming. I had no idea he was a sub 200 lb player. I dont know how many more years he has in the league because of that, but man does he play an iron game.
If you're talking about Lindgren  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2022 3:14 pm : link
I never thought he was a bad player and I'm still not sure he's best suited as a top 4 D, but Lindgren's value became clearer to me after seeing Nemeth forced into the lineup. I just didn't watch the Rangers as much as some of you so I think I had underrated Lindgren a little and wasn't aware how bad Nemeth is. So, he's maybe not a superstar, but I think the Rangers would be out of the playoffs by now if not for Lindgren (and if they had to play Nemeth).
RE: job done, now win it there. Much more energetic and physical but  
Bones : 5/29/2022 3:36 pm : link
In comment 15720745 Victor in CT said:
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I didn't think they played all that well. Thankfully Igor did his thing and we have a chance to advance. They were hemmed in their own zone for LOOOOOONG stretches.

Chytil is really maturing before our eyes. Decisive with the puck, physical and skilled. And refreshingly not shy about shooting.

Goodrow made a difference. Faceoffs alone were worth it.

Where is Kreider? He's picked a hell of a time to disappear.

Panarin actually took a shot!! :-)


The reason Panarin took a shot was because Kreider made the perfect read and pass to him.
RE: If you're talking about Lindgren  
FrankHuntington : 5/29/2022 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15720938 pjcas18 said:
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I never thought he was a bad player and I'm still not sure he's best suited as a top 4 D, but Lindgren's value became clearer to me after seeing Nemeth forced into the lineup. I just didn't watch the Rangers as much as some of you so I think I had underrated Lindgren a little and wasn't aware how bad Nemeth is. So, he's maybe not a superstar, but I think the Rangers would be out of the playoffs by now if not for Lindgren (and if they had to play Nemeth).


I agree about the top 4 in that Lindgren and Fox are both pretty light in the ass. Thats significant because you want at peast one D on the ice that can move people in front of the net. Lindgren plays a surprisingly heavy game (again, he does NOT play a 190 lb game) but isnt a heavy hotter necessarily.

I dont see us being able to be in the market for a LD that we can switch up with him tho. As I have said, I hope that we can switch up the pairings in the offseason a bit....pairung Trouba with Zac Jones and Miller with Schneider. I think they are more complimentary.
Lindgren would be a solid 2nd pair defenseman  
Snablats : 5/29/2022 6:33 pm : link
He really isnt a top pair guy. Problem is Trouba is righthanded like Fox. They need to acquire a top pair LD to go with Fox
RE: Lindgren would be a solid 2nd pair defenseman  
FrankHuntington : 5/29/2022 6:36 pm : link
In comment 15721003 Snablats said:
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He really isnt a top pair guy. Problem is Trouba is righthanded like Fox. They need to acquire a top pair LD to go with Fox


I think tuey can make do with what they have if they Jones can take the next stem and be paired with Trouba or even Schneider. Jones and Schneider could be a pairing for years.
To take the next step as Stanley Cup contenders  
Snablats : 5/29/2022 6:58 pm : link
they need to clean up their own end. Getting a top pair LD and moving the other LD down a notch gives the Rangers a really solid D top to bottom

Nail down a real 2C, and the team is ready for next season
RE: To take the next step as Stanley Cup contenders  
Anakim : 5/29/2022 11:47 pm : link
In comment 15721014 Snablats said:
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they need to clean up their own end. Getting a top pair LD and moving the other LD down a notch gives the Rangers a really solid D top to bottom

Nail down a real 2C, and the team is ready for next season


You have to stop hating on K'Andre. It's an obsession with you. Is he a top-4 D? Yes. And he has potential to be a top guy if he cleans up the mental mistake. He shouldn't be "moved down". That's absolutely ridiculous.
Plenty of time to talk offseason shit...in the offseason  
Anakim : 5/29/2022 11:57 pm : link
But if I'm choosing between K'Andre and Lindgren, it's not even close. Not even a discussion. You go with upside and the more talented player.

I love how tough Lindgren is and he and Fox have tremendous chemistry, but with his brand of physical play he's bound to break down sooner or later. He's signed to a decent deal, but I hope Drury sees if there's a market for him. Seems like this offseason would be when his value is at his highest.
No, it isnt. He isnt good in his own zone  
Snablats : 5/29/2022 11:59 pm : link
He will probably be a top 4, but he isnt now. This team is a fire drill on every shift in their own zone. Settle that down with a top LD that moves other left D down (Lindgren really isnt a top pair D but would be a solid 2nd pair guy), get a real 2C, and they are a true Cup contender next season

By the way, Buchnevich scored just 1 goal in his 12 playoff games. Copp and Vatrano have combined for 8 goals so far

Serious note - I do hope you are feeling well after being in that crowd last night
RE: No, it isnt. He isnt good in his own zone  
Anakim : 5/30/2022 12:24 am : link
In comment 15721096 Snablats said:
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He will probably be a top 4, but he isnt now. This team is a fire drill on every shift in their own zone. Settle that down with a top LD that moves other left D down (Lindgren really isnt a top pair D but would be a solid 2nd pair guy), get a real 2C, and they are a true Cup contender next season

By the way, Buchnevich scored just 1 goal in his 12 playoff games. Copp and Vatrano have combined for 8 goals so far

Serious note - I do hope you are feeling well after being in that crowd last night


Miller has the size, skating ability and reach to make up for his defensive lapses. He'll only get better with time and seasoning. His minutes don't need to be sheltered. In fact, he should be given more responsibility next year. I also would like to see Zac Jones or maybe even Matthew Robertson in the NHL getting regular minutes next year. The issue then becomes that you'll have a very young and inexperienced 3rd pair in Jones/Robertson-Schneider, but Gord Murphy can deal with that.

Agree about the 2C. That's their #1 priority. There's also the chance that Drury re-signs Copp and Gallant moves him to C full-time.


Buchnevich had 11 points in 12 playoff games. I'll take a PPG in the playoffs any day of the week.

Thank you. Just waiting to see if I get any symptoms...
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RE: RE: No, it isnt. He isnt good in his own zone  
FrankHuntington : 5/30/2022 12:36 am : link
In comment 15721099 Anakim said:
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He will probably be a top 4, but he isnt now. This team is a fire drill on every shift in their own zone. Settle that down with a top LD that moves other left D down (Lindgren really isnt a top pair D but would be a solid 2nd pair guy), get a real 2C, and they are a true Cup contender next season

By the way, Buchnevich scored just 1 goal in his 12 playoff games. Copp and Vatrano have combined for 8 goals so far

Serious note - I do hope you are feeling well after being in that crowd last night



Miller has the size, skating ability and reach to make up for his defensive lapses. He'll only get better with time and seasoning. His minutes don't need to be sheltered. In fact, he should be given more responsibility next year. I also would like to see Zac Jones or maybe even Matthew Robertson in the NHL getting regular minutes next year. The issue then becomes that you'll have a very young and inexperienced 3rd pair in Jones/Robertson-Schneider, but Gord Murphy can deal with that.

Agree about the 2C. That's their #1 priority. There's also the chance that Drury re-signs Copp and Gallant moves him to C full-time.


Buchnevich had 11 points in 12 playoff games. I'll take a PPG in the playoffs any day of the week.

Thank you. Just waiting to see if I get any symptoms... Link - ( New Window )


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RE: RE: No, it isnt. He isnt good in his own zone  
Snablats : 5/30/2022 1:30 am : link
In comment 15721099 Anakim said:
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In comment 15721096 Snablats said:


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He will probably be a top 4, but he isnt now. This team is a fire drill on every shift in their own zone. Settle that down with a top LD that moves other left D down (Lindgren really isnt a top pair D but would be a solid 2nd pair guy), get a real 2C, and they are a true Cup contender next season

By the way, Buchnevich scored just 1 goal in his 12 playoff games. Copp and Vatrano have combined for 8 goals so far

Serious note - I do hope you are feeling well after being in that crowd last night



Miller has the size, skating ability and reach to make up for his defensive lapses. He'll only get better with time and seasoning. His minutes don't need to be sheltered. In fact, he should be given more responsibility next year. I also would like to see Zac Jones or maybe even Matthew Robertson in the NHL getting regular minutes next year. The issue then becomes that you'll have a very young and inexperienced 3rd pair in Jones/Robertson-Schneider, but Gord Murphy can deal with that.

Agree about the 2C. That's their #1 priority. There's also the chance that Drury re-signs Copp and Gallant moves him to C full-time.


Buchnevich had 11 points in 12 playoff games. I'll take a PPG in the playoffs any day of the week.

Thank you. Just waiting to see if I get any symptoms... Link - ( New Window )

Copp isnt a 2C on a championship team, but he is someone to keep if they can. I like Vatrano's shot, and that he shoots, but he doesnt seem to do anything else

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