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NYG Mandatory Mini-Camp (Wednesday - Day 2)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 7:25 am


Wednesday, June 8

Approx. 10:30 a.m. – Head Coach Brian Daboll Available

11:05 a.m. – 1:05 p.m. – Practice

Players Available – After Practice

Lets hope there are no injuries and less red jersey's, if possible  
SGMen : 6/8/2022 9:04 am : link
Go Giants!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:32 am : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Brian Daboll on the defense beating the offense yesterday: “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.” His point: It’s only minicamp. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:33 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - some good plays and bad plays on both sides yesterday....hard to prep for wink defense with the different looks
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:33 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Wink’s defense is hard to prepare for. “That’s one of the reasons we hired him.”

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - good to bring in tryout players to get a look at them, even if they don't sign

The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
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I asked Daboll what makes Wink Martindale system so tough to play against—“He throws a lot of different looks at you, attacks in different ways, why I hired him”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:34 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Saquon is a “unique guy” with good hands and runs great routes.

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - barkley is unique so you can move hin other spots...good hand and routes...also means the WRs need to learn other WR spots to move around...how you use him is a week to week deal
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:34 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - barkley "been good. been able to do everything we've asked him to do"..."great on the field, been impressive"

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Saquon has looked good physically. “I see a talented player. I’m glad he’s on our team.”

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - barkley has leadership traits...got to let it play out but he does a good job in the RB room
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:35 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - it is important to talk with the players...."being consistent is the first step in being a good leader"...players will vote for their captains

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:37 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - hard for any rookie to jump right into the NFL and be dominant.. there are good opponents every week...there are also so many other things that they are doing for the first time

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll: “We have a rep chart, not a depth chart right now.” Spring practices are more about teaching.

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - gillan has had a really good camp..he can boom the ball and has fit in well
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:38 am : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
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Daboll says it’s too early to read into depth charts.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:39 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - will always be himself...players need to be accountable to one another - it is their team
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:40 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - richie james has quickness and can play all 4 WR spots....good hands, dependable, knows what to do

ack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Brian Daboll seems high on WR Richie James. Said he has good hands, knows what to do, is dependable and said QBs have been able to read his body language in his route running. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:41 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Richie James has quickness and can play inside and outside. “Quarterbacks can read his body language. … He’s been a good addition to us.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:41 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - guys in red jerseys will be out do whatever they are allowed to do.....got to be smart - it is june...want them in full for july 26
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:43 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said he learned a lot in Buffalo about how they handled injuries. “It paid off.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:43 am : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Daboll described Jihad Ward as “awesome “ coach loves his personality and always helps the younger guys.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:44 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - ward energetic...love way he practices. always runs to the ball...been great with thibs and other guys in the room
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 10:46 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - a lot of the installation is in

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said a lot of the installation is in. The next step is putting the players and coaches in the right position.

Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Brian Daboll on #Giants punter Jamie Gillan: “He can boom it.”

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Spiciest Memelord : 6/8/2022 10:59 am : link
In comment 15727707 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - barkley "been good. been able to do everything we've asked him to do"..."great on the field, been impressive"

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Saquon has looked good physically. “I see a talented player. I’m glad he’s on our team.”

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - barkley has leadership traits...got to let it play out but he does a good job in the RB room


Barkey has poor leadership traits if he can't block. End of discussion.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:05 am : link
Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Brian Daboll says Ricky Seals-Jones being buried on yesterday’s depth chart is not an indication of where he stands. Says Giants have “a rep chart, not a depth chart” right now. Odd, though. All the other positions seem clearly layered w a depth chart.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:08 am : link
Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Brian Daboll on the defense getting the better of the offense yesterday: "As a head coach it's never a good practice because if one side is doing good the other side is doing bad."
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:16 am : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Kadarius Toney catching some balls before practice again
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:18 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Toney
https://twitter.com/giantswfan/status/1534555065909927937 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:26 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Shepard (3) and Golladay on the side
https://twitter.com/giantswfan/status/1534557114294841345 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:31 am : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
#Giants rookies will report for training camp July 19. Veterans to report a week later on the 26th.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:34 am : link
Ralph Vacchiano

@RVacchianoSNY
Looks like the same players in the red/injury jerseys for Day 2 of Giants minicamp, including most of their receiving corps.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:36 am : link
Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Kenny G doing some drills.
https://twitter.com/TomRock_Newsday/status/1534559582378508288 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:36 am : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Same three tryout players are practicing again: WR Keelan Doss, WR Isaiah Ford and TE Jaeden Graham. Also see DT Kobe Smith, who I may have overlooked yesterday.
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Brown_Hornet : 6/8/2022 11:37 am : link
In comment 15727738 Spiciest Memelord said:
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Barkey has poor leadership traits if he can't block. End of discussion.


Promise?!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:48 am : link
Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Seeing a lot of new drills this spring. QBs for example working on some different footwork (see my IG for video).

The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
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With Darnay Holmes still in red jersey, Car’Dale Flott getting valuable slot reps.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:49 am : link
Ralph Vacchiano

@RVacchianoSNY
Giants WRs Kenny Golladay and Wan'Dale Robinson doing work with QB Daniel Jones. 👇
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:49 am : link
Zack Rosenblatt
@ZackBlatt
Daniel Jones to Wan’Dale Robinson
https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1534562420890423296 - ( New Window )
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KeoweeFan : 6/8/2022 11:52 am : link
In comment 15727757 Eric from BBI said:
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Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Kadarius Toney catching some balls before practice again

Catching 90 degrees from the thrower. Is he practicing for a quick toss on the line of scrimmage without having to turn and face the QB - allowing for a speedy take off down field?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 11:54 am : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Davis Webb with a nice deep ball to Keelan Doss during 7 on 7 drills. The connection everyone is talking about. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 12:00 pm : link
Based on the video clips, Golladay is close to returning.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 12:26 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Another Saquon Barkley receiving TD from Daniel Jones in 11 on 11.

And then a beautiful fade from Tyrod Taylor to Richie James in the end zone. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 12:28 pm : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Some red zone highlights:
-Jones hits Board for a TD
-Leo knocks down a Jones pass
-Jones hits Barkley on a flat route
-David Webb hits Austin Proehl for a TD
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 12:31 pm : link
Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Giants offense certainly looked like they had something to prove in 11v11 RZ drills today. TDs by the bunches. Kafka Doing Kafka Things?
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shyster : 6/8/2022 12:33 pm : link
In comment 15727826 KeoweeFan said:
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In comment 15727757 Eric from BBI said:


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Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Kadarius Toney catching some balls before practice again


Catching 90 degrees from the thrower. Is he practicing for a quick toss on the line of scrimmage without having to turn and face the QB - allowing for a speedy take off down field?


Doubt it. There's no percentage in one handed catches at the line of scrimmage, whether passes or laterals. They need to be as sure as possible, which means two hands.

Yesterday he was also practicing one handed catches, also with the left hand, although he was standing square to the passing gun then.

My guess is that he is mostly just bored. I do wonder why it's all left hand. I keep waiting for him to switch to the right (like Belushi doing his eyebrow raises for his SNL audition).
Richie James  
5BowlsSoon : 6/8/2022 12:36 pm : link
With so many WRs always I hired, guys like Robinson and James will be invaluable. And oh, in case you didn’t know, James averaged 18 yards a catch in SF. He is a big play guy much like Robinson. I don’t care if both are short….separation is what counts the most.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 12:41 pm : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Ahh a little Andy Reid touch as Daniel rolls right and throws an underhand flip to Saquon inside the five.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 12:49 pm : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
With the crowd noise going, Gano hits a FG to end practice.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 12:53 pm : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Day 2 Is over. A lot of installs and some nice red zone plays. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:02 pm : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Graham Gano hit a 53-yard field goal to end practice, setting off cheers from the full roster. The high stakes: Post-practice running.
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jhibb : 6/8/2022 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15727743 Eric from BBI said:
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Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Brian Daboll says Ricky Seals-Jones being buried on yesterday’s depth chart is not an indication of where he stands. Says Giants have “a rep chart, not a depth chart” right now. Odd, though. All the other positions seem clearly layered w a depth chart.


Funny how I can just be skimming through these without paying attention to who is writing each, but I knew right away who wrote that one. Always with the annoying takes.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:05 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Julian Love said the strength of the defense is having a lot of guys do a lot of different things. “It’s allowing guys to play free. … We’re excited to make plays.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:08 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Julian Love said there’s a lot of competitive talk in the locker room between the offense and defense about who won each day.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:09 pm : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Love—“They’re doing a lot more with Saquon, and he’s excited over it”

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Julian Love said he’s noticed Saquon being used in a lot of ways. “He’s back in his headspace being super competitive.” Love said Saquon’s injuries were tough on him and everyone.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:10 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Saquon on getting his college degree: “I was not expecting that to be the first question.” He was proud of the achievement.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:13 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy

@rydunleavy
Saquon Barkley on being used as a receiver in Brian Daboll’s offense: ‘I haven’t really moved around (the offense) like this since college.’ #giants #PennState
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:14 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Saquon said he hasn’t moved around in an offense this much since college. “I was OK in college.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:16 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Saquon: “I feel a lot better than I did at this point last year.” He said he feels he can trust his knee again and not think about it.

Ralph Vacchiano

@RVacchianoSNY
Saquon Barkley on his health: “I feel a lot better than I felt at this point last year. My body feels good. I’m trusting my knee again.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:20 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Saquon Barkley again on people who have been doubting him: “When the tables turn… stay on that side.” #Giants
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Brown_Hornet : 6/8/2022 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15727858 shyster said:
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Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Kadarius Toney catching some balls before practice again


Catching 90 degrees from the thrower. Is he practicing for a quick toss on the line of scrimmage without having to turn and face the QB - allowing for a speedy take off down field?



Doubt it. There's no percentage in one handed catches at the line of scrimmage, whether passes or laterals. They need to be as sure as possible, which means two hands.

Yesterday he was also practicing one handed catches, also with the left hand, although he was standing square to the passing gun then.

My guess is that he is mostly just bored. I do wonder why it's all left hand. I keep waiting for him to switch to the right (like Belushi doing his eyebrow raises for his SNL audition).
The practical benefit Of this drill would be catching balls thrown behind the receiver.
Still would consider resign saquon if it’s a reasonable deal  
Payasdaddy : 6/8/2022 1:25 pm : link
Something that works for both parties and not a cap buster
Yes, if I can get a 3rd rd at deadline, got to consider it
Yes, if someone is offering big money in FA, can’t do it
But I think his value will be maximized in the offense this yr
He isn’t a between the tackles guy on a consistent basis ( capt obvious)
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rich in DC : 6/8/2022 1:27 pm : link
In comment 15727921 Eric from BBI said:
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Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Saquon Barkley again on people who have been doubting him: “When the tables turn… stay on that side.” #Giants


Sounds like a Frank Drebin quote from Police Squad.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:30 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Jihad Ward calls Wink Martindale “Uncle Wink”

Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Jihad Ward: “I’m just out here living life. Chillin.” #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 1:32 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Jihad Ward said he’s on Kayvon to know his stuff. He doesn’t want him or anybody to play slow. “He’s dialed in. He’s ready.” He doesn’t want people still learning while they’re playing.

Ralph Vacchiano

@RVacchianoSNY
New Giants DE Jihad Ward on rookie DE Kayvon Thibodeaux: “I’m on his ass. I’m on it, to make sure he’s learning the playbook. Because I don’t want him to play slow.

“He’ll be ready.”
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shyster : 6/8/2022 1:43 pm : link
In comment 15727922 Brown_Hornet said:
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The practical benefit Of this drill would be catching balls thrown behind the receiver.


You could say that about yesterday's drill, where he was standing square to the gun, although if he never switched to the right hand you'd have to wonder why.

For today's drill, and answering the question that was asked, it makes no sense to practice sticking one hand out while standing at a 90 degree angle to passes (or laterals) at the line of scrimmage.

Too little to gain and too much to lose.
RE: Still would consider resign saquon if it’s a reasonable deal  
ZogZerg : 6/8/2022 1:52 pm : link
In comment 15727926 Payasdaddy said:
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Can we wait until we see how he performs during the games before we decide on whether to extend him?

He is not going to resign right now, with his stock so low.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 2:03 pm : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Much lighter practice today. There was only really one live 11-on-11 period, which was in the red zone. There was an extended period where the offense and defense did a walk-through without helmets.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 2:09 pm : link
Zack Rosenblatt

@ZackBlatt
Light #Giants practice, but the people demand observations.

And I am a man of the people.

- WR Richie James emerging
- Kadarius Toney, looking ripped
- Play of the day
- Ricky Seals-Jones falling down the depth chart
Giants minicamp observations, Day 2: Surprise WR emerging, Kadarius Toney’s shape, Tyrod Taylor’s play of the day, more - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 2:36 pm : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
No major changes in the red jersey crew. Didn't spot CB Rodarius Williams, who has been on the side rehabbing his torn ACL all spring. WR Travis Toivonen traded the red for blue today.
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River Mike : 6/8/2022 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15727738 Spiciest Memelord said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - barkley "been good. been able to do everything we've asked him to do"..."great on the field, been impressive"

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Saquon has looked good physically. “I see a talented player. I’m glad he’s on our team.”

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - barkley has leadership traits...got to let it play out but he does a good job in the RB room



Barkey has poor leadership traits if he can't block. End of discussion.


So does that mean Dabol has poor leadership skills? Because I doubt he can block well
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Brown_Hornet : 6/8/2022 3:01 pm : link
In comment 15727949 shyster said:
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The practical benefit Of this drill would be catching balls thrown behind the receiver.



You could say that about yesterday's drill, where he was standing square to the gun, although if he never switched to the right hand you'd have to wonder why.

For today's drill, and answering the question that was asked, it makes no sense to practice sticking one hand out while standing at a 90 degree angle to passes (or laterals) at the line of scrimmage.

Too little to gain and too much to lose.
Definitely not working on a toss with a jugs machine.

If a player is running forward and the ball is behind, his body position would be the same as the way he did the drill.
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Keaton028 : 6/8/2022 3:11 pm : link
In comment 15727738 Spiciest Memelord said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - barkley "been good. been able to do everything we've asked him to do"..."great on the field, been impressive"

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Saquon has looked good physically. “I see a talented player. I’m glad he’s on our team.”

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Daboll - barkley has leadership traits...got to let it play out but he does a good job in the RB room



Barkey has poor leadership traits if he can't block. End of discussion.



Such a dumb comment. So if a guy is weak in one area, he is a poor leader? Ward isn’t the best defensive player but coach is lauding his leadership. You are just looking to take a shot at SB.
Giants.com  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/8/2022 3:25 pm : link
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Minicamp Report (6/8): Top plays & notes from Day 2 - ( New Window )
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Bill in UT : 6/8/2022 3:37 pm : link
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- Kadarius Toney, looking ripped


Great, more muscles to pull
Seals-Jones’s descent  
George : 6/8/2022 9:40 pm : link
Means a Bellinger ascent.

I’m good with this.
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