“I strongly believe the Giants should move on from Daniel Jones. We’ve seen a lot of INTs in practice. The big elephant in the room is seeing Tyrod Taylor do things in practice that Jones is struggling with” - Emory Hunt (CBS Sports)
me confused... there haven't been a lot of interceptions in OTAs/mini-camp. In fact, I don't think there was a single interception by any QB during the mini-camp.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
I think he was there because he has pictures and videos from the pressers, but yeah, that is odd.
Pretty favorable unless something is obviously bad. These comments are out of left field.
Hunt is an avowed Jones hater. Never misses an opportunity to take a shot at Jones (perhaps at times warranted) even though his commentary is generally pro-Giants otherwise.
So Hunt has a hard-on to make Jones seem like and report
Daniel Jones will be criticized as long as he’s a QB in the most prominent media market in the world. WE (capital we) dragged Eli Manning through the mud and all he did was beat TB in a Super Bowl… TWICE.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
Hunt is recently a guy who said Hurts was better than Herbert because the Eagles were in the playoffs. I would not pay much attention to this guy.
In comment 15730865 Eric from BBI said:
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Jones did not throw a pick in the mini-camp.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
He claims this is going to be a Hurts break out year
What is Hunt's background? Was he a player before he started
not saying we are not going to hear some say we have a QB controversy.
But Hunt is not basing that on what has transpired in the practices that he has been able to attend.
If he was smarter, he would have not said Jones has been throwing a lot of picks (because he hasn't). He would have simply said the back-up(s) have been sharper.
So even if he was trying to stir up shit, he's really bad at it.
He does watch a lot of film but he often has some outrageous takes. I’ve known of him for a long time. He does a lot of work for FCS football. He’s very big on the smaller school prospects around draft time. He’s an interesting listen around draft time but I don’t put much stock into his takes.
Not sure why that is the only focus here but no possibility he has a fair point that Taylor has looked better?
His commentary only specifically mentions interceptions.
Again, have no idea who he is, but you can't take him seriously based on his commentary given Jones has thrown one interception in the five open media OTAs that was on him.
As I said above, if he said, "Taylor simply has been more accurate" then I'd take him more seriously.
But when you say something obvious untrue, I can't take you seriously.
But he isn't a good QB. He did nothing last year to impress anyone and when you watch his breakdowns from 2021, you don't want him starting any games this season.
me confused... there haven't been a lot of interceptions in OTAs/mini-camp. In fact, I don't think there was a single interception by any QB during the mini-camp.
Was Hunt even there?
Were you?
RE: RE: I do think if we had an open QB competition...
A couple weeks ago Duggan said the fans will want a QB competition after watching Taylor play.
This is absurd. It could very well be that Jones is not the guy, but I don't believe that even the Jones haters think that this team is ever going deep into the playoffs with Taylor. There is no reason to give Taylor the job. If Jones sucks, his replacement is not on the roster.
RE: RE: His comment isn’t just about interceptions.
Not sure why that is the only focus here but no possibility he has a fair point that Taylor has looked better?
His commentary only specifically mentions interceptions.
Again, have no idea who he is, but you can't take him seriously based on his commentary given Jones has thrown one interception in the five open media OTAs that was on him.
As I said above, if he said, "Taylor simply has been more accurate" then I'd take him more seriously.
But when you say something obvious untrue, I can't take you seriously.
Not sure if he has other comments but the OP includes a third sentence that isn’t really referring to interceptions. It is a broader comment.
Again, what would be the motivation here...clicks?
But he isn't a good QB. He did nothing last year to impress anyone and when you watch his breakdowns from 2021, you don't want him starting any games this season.
But continue.
You could easily have written that post about Jones.
I don't want Jones or Taylor starting any games. There's nothing to learn about them that we don't already know.
me confused... there haven't been a lot of interceptions in OTAs/mini-camp. In fact, I don't think there was a single interception by any QB during the mini-camp.
Was Hunt even there?
Were you?
No. But I also didn't make such a statement. Right?
But interceptions are quantifiable. He didn't specifically mention what other criteria he is talking about. I think Taylor has scored more with his feet in the red zone, but I didn't notice any trends that one QB was playing better than the other in practice.
The Giants have a bunch of reporters who cover the team. Not one of them has said, "Taylor is out-playing Jones." (Mind you, I'm a guy who argued when we signed Taylor that I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor did out-play Jones).
But he isn't a good QB. He did nothing last year to impress anyone and when you watch his breakdowns from 2021, you don't want him starting any games this season.
But continue.
You could easily have written that post about Jones.
I don't want Jones or Taylor starting any games. There's nothing to learn about them that we don't already know.
I think you named Tyrod as a guy you would like to see start if the Giants got rid of Jones. But anyway.
Browns start off horrible, Tyrod included, they stink and can't move offensively. He's benched and Baker gets the offense to perform better. Same story went for Houston. A mid round rookie looked miles better.. We supposed to be impressed by beating Jacksonville? He had a "win" over the Titans where his offense had 107 net pass yards and 190 total. He's done, and hopefully if Jones is gone next year, he doesn't play once the rookie is brought in.
Jones is better than Taylor. Not that it is saying much, but well.
But interceptions are quantifiable. He didn't specifically mention what other criteria he is talking about. I think Taylor has scored more with his feet in the red zone, but I didn't notice any trends that one QB was playing better than the other in practice.
The Giants have a bunch of reporters who cover the team. Not one of them has said, "Taylor is out-playing Jones." (Mind you, I'm a guy who argued when we signed Taylor that I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor did out-play Jones).
Maybe Hunt is talking about getting in the end zone more frequently with his last comment then. Arm+Legs...however it gets done.
Whatever...not sure flat out dismissal is required here. I am fine if there is clear grounds for an obvious grudge or click demand which is why I asked.
Was Hunt even there?
My guess is his insider info is a mile wide and an inch deep.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
I think he was there because he has pictures and videos from the pressers, but yeah, that is odd.
Sounds like he can't win job away from Jones.
Hunt is an avowed Jones hater. Never misses an opportunity to take a shot at Jones (perhaps at times warranted) even though his commentary is generally pro-Giants otherwise.
But why would that be...just to get clicks?
WTF is Hunt talking about - ( New Window )
In comment 15730865 Eric from BBI said:
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
In comment 15730865 Eric from BBI said:
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Jones did not throw a pick in the mini-camp.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
He claims this is going to be a Hurts break out year
But Hunt is not basing that on what has transpired in the practices that he has been able to attend.
If he was smarter, he would have not said Jones has been throwing a lot of picks (because he hasn't). He would have simply said the back-up(s) have been sharper.
So even if he was trying to stir up shit, he's really bad at it.
I don't know who he is.
But he's clearly lying.
The reporters are always focused on one thing - because it's the easier thing to follow - interceptions.
Now there have been interceptions in the 7 OTAs that are not open to the public. But Hunt was not at those.
A couple weeks ago Duggan said the fans will want a QB competition after watching Taylor play.
I may have missed his posts…but I have not seen him post in 1 or 2 years
His commentary only specifically mentions interceptions.
Again, have no idea who he is, but you can't take him seriously based on his commentary given Jones has thrown one interception in the five open media OTAs that was on him.
As I said above, if he said, "Taylor simply has been more accurate" then I'd take him more seriously.
But when you say something obvious untrue, I can't take you seriously.
But he isn't a good QB. He did nothing last year to impress anyone and when you watch his breakdowns from 2021, you don't want him starting any games this season.
But continue.
Was Hunt even there?
Were you?
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I would put $ on Taylor winning the starting gig.
A couple weeks ago Duggan said the fans will want a QB competition after watching Taylor play.
This is absurd. It could very well be that Jones is not the guy, but I don't believe that even the Jones haters think that this team is ever going deep into the playoffs with Taylor. There is no reason to give Taylor the job. If Jones sucks, his replacement is not on the roster.
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Not sure why that is the only focus here but no possibility he has a fair point that Taylor has looked better?
His commentary only specifically mentions interceptions.
Again, have no idea who he is, but you can't take him seriously based on his commentary given Jones has thrown one interception in the five open media OTAs that was on him.
As I said above, if he said, "Taylor simply has been more accurate" then I'd take him more seriously.
But when you say something obvious untrue, I can't take you seriously.
Not sure if he has other comments but the OP includes a third sentence that isn’t really referring to interceptions. It is a broader comment.
Again, what would be the motivation here...clicks?
But he isn't a good QB. He did nothing last year to impress anyone and when you watch his breakdowns from 2021, you don't want him starting any games this season.
But continue.
You could easily have written that post about Jones.
I don't want Jones or Taylor starting any games. There's nothing to learn about them that we don't already know.
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me confused... there haven't been a lot of interceptions in OTAs/mini-camp. In fact, I don't think there was a single interception by any QB during the mini-camp.
Was Hunt even there?
Were you?
No. But I also didn't make such a statement. Right?
He definitely spun the Jones INT’s…implying for sure
I have no idea.
People are subjective by nature.
But interceptions are quantifiable. He didn't specifically mention what other criteria he is talking about. I think Taylor has scored more with his feet in the red zone, but I didn't notice any trends that one QB was playing better than the other in practice.
The Giants have a bunch of reporters who cover the team. Not one of them has said, "Taylor is out-playing Jones." (Mind you, I'm a guy who argued when we signed Taylor that I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor did out-play Jones).
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May look fine in shorts and these practices.
But he isn't a good QB. He did nothing last year to impress anyone and when you watch his breakdowns from 2021, you don't want him starting any games this season.
But continue.
You could easily have written that post about Jones.
I don't want Jones or Taylor starting any games. There's nothing to learn about them that we don't already know.
I think you named Tyrod as a guy you would like to see start if the Giants got rid of Jones. But anyway.
Browns start off horrible, Tyrod included, they stink and can't move offensively. He's benched and Baker gets the offense to perform better. Same story went for Houston. A mid round rookie looked miles better.. We supposed to be impressed by beating Jacksonville? He had a "win" over the Titans where his offense had 107 net pass yards and 190 total. He's done, and hopefully if Jones is gone next year, he doesn't play once the rookie is brought in.
Jones is better than Taylor. Not that it is saying much, but well.
I have no idea.
People are subjective by nature.
But interceptions are quantifiable. He didn't specifically mention what other criteria he is talking about. I think Taylor has scored more with his feet in the red zone, but I didn't notice any trends that one QB was playing better than the other in practice.
The Giants have a bunch of reporters who cover the team. Not one of them has said, "Taylor is out-playing Jones." (Mind you, I'm a guy who argued when we signed Taylor that I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor did out-play Jones).
Maybe Hunt is talking about getting in the end zone more frequently with his last comment then. Arm+Legs...however it gets done.
Whatever...not sure flat out dismissal is required here. I am fine if there is clear grounds for an obvious grudge or click demand which is why I asked.
But neither is a long term solution. We're punting this year at QB.
Bingo... the lesser of two weevils...
But neither is a long term solution. We're punting this year at QB.
Clearly. Schoen not entirely taking sides, but giving Jones and his defenders enough rope to hang themselves.
In the meanwhile, rebuild the trenches and amortize down the bad contracts.
Rebuild Part 1...