“I strongly believe the Giants should move on from Daniel Jones. We’ve seen a lot of INTs in practice. The big elephant in the room is seeing Tyrod Taylor do things in practice that Jones is struggling with” - Emory Hunt (CBS Sports)
actually thinks that Taylor should be our starting QB going into 2023, please say so. Otherwise, there is nothing to debate concerning whether Jones should be the starter this year. That's not to say one can't bitch about Jones.
He does watch a lot of film but he often has some outrageous takes. I’ve known of him for a long time. He does a lot of work for FCS football. He’s very big on the smaller school prospects around draft time. He’s an interesting listen around draft time but I don’t put much stock into his takes.
Emory does watch a lot of film and is not afraid to take a contrarian view. He is right some times and wrong as well, but he has always taken a negative view of Daniel Jones, but it comes across as bias rather than a fair assessment, similar to some on BBi who take it personally. Its as if he doesn’t want to be wrong and doesn’t look at it fairly.
So lets say Jones did throw more picks than Tyrod, whats the big deal? Tyrod knows the system better, he should be better at this stage. Dabes has told Daniel Jones to take chances and get the Jason Garret conservatism out of his system. This all has to play out. Maybe Jones isn’t the guy, but for Gods sake lets play this out!
actually thinks that Taylor should be our starting QB going into 2023, please say so. Otherwise, there is nothing to debate concerning whether Jones should be the starter this year. That's not to say one can't bitch about Jones.
Bill I don’t actually care who is the starting QB. Neither is a solution so this is just buying time while other pieces are figured out, and a good opportunity to find better talent at the position becomes available.
is the starter, but won't get a long leash IMO. And he shouldn't. I expect him to play better than last year, but not well enough to justify using the FT on him next year ($21M IIRC). This is likely his last year with the Giants. Same for Barkley.
actually thinks that Taylor should be our starting QB going into 2023, please say so. Otherwise, there is nothing to debate concerning whether Jones should be the starter this year. That's not to say one can't bitch about Jones.
Bill I don’t actually care who is the starting QB. Neither is a solution so this is just buying time while other pieces are figured out, and a good opportunity to find better talent at the position becomes available.
Hopefully 2023...
I'm hoping you're wrong about Jones, but I'm sure not expecting you're wrong, unfortunately
actually thinks that Taylor should be our starting QB going into 2023, please say so. Otherwise, there is nothing to debate concerning whether Jones should be the starter this year. That's not to say one can't bitch about Jones.
Bill I don’t actually care who is the starting QB. Neither is a solution so this is just buying time while other pieces are figured out, and a good opportunity to find better talent at the position becomes available.
Hopefully 2023...
I'm hoping you're wrong about Jones, but I'm sure not expecting you're wrong, unfortunately
I gave Jones last year to show me enough signs he was a guy worth keeping. He failed, and that includes accounting for his supporting cast...
actually thinks that Taylor should be our starting QB going into 2023, please say so. Otherwise, there is nothing to debate concerning whether Jones should be the starter this year. That's not to say one can't bitch about Jones.
Bill I don’t actually care who is the starting QB. Neither is a solution so this is just buying time while other pieces are figured out, and a good opportunity to find better talent at the position becomes available.
Hopefully 2023...
I'm hoping you're wrong about Jones, but I'm sure not expecting you're wrong, unfortunately
I gave Jones last year to show me enough signs he was a guy worth keeping. He failed, and that includes accounting for his supporting cast...
I get it. I would have like to see Jones get in those last 6 or so games. TEHO. Que sera, sera. I'm now out of cliches :)
That guy watches a lot of film. He puts the work in.
If he said he was awesome I can guarantee you would have thought he was. This is like the sun rising this comment from you. So typical. So he threw no INT's in the OTA's Hunt claims he did, you back him am I surprised? Not at all.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
You can go back to the Locked On Giants podcast and he was killing the Giants for drafting Jones since Day 1! Sounds like he's one of the reporters who DOES NOT want to be wrong!
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
You can go back to the Locked On Giants podcast and he was killing the Giants for drafting Jones since Day 1! Sounds like he's one of the reporters who DOES NOT want to be wrong!
Bingo!!! Just like someone else I know from this site.
That guy watches a lot of film. He puts the work in.
If he said he was awesome I can guarantee you would have thought he was. This is like the sun rising this comment from you. So typical. So he threw no INT's in the OTA's Hunt claims he did, you back him am I surprised? Not at all.
You want to come out of the closet now? Or just keep following your hated namesake around...
That guy watches a lot of film. He puts the work in.
If he said he was awesome I can guarantee you would have thought he was. This is like the sun rising this comment from you. So typical. So he threw no INT's in the OTA's Hunt claims he did, you back him am I surprised? Not at all.
You want to come out of the closet now? Or just keep following your hated namesake around...
I am in a lot of posts that he does not post in. I respond to him in stead of kissing his ass like you when he posts stupid things, like his last post. He did not throw an INT during OTA's do you understand that. Do understand how stupid the reporter looks by saying he did. Do you realize how stupid Twerps looks for backing this guy. Oh never mind the next time Twerps sits down he is going to break your neck.
We drafted him that high because of Cutcliffe connection/he looks like Eli.
Unfortunately I think you are correct with your take. I ve also stated before I think the Barkley pick at 2 set into motion the dynamics that led to this selection
But it is what it is and It s the past, I m hoping for the best
That guy watches a lot of film. He puts the work in.
If he said he was awesome I can guarantee you would have thought he was. This is like the sun rising this comment from you. So typical. So he threw no INT's in the OTA's Hunt claims he did, you back him am I surprised? Not at all.
You want to come out of the closet now? Or just keep following your hated namesake around...
I am in a lot of posts that he does not post in. I respond to him in stead of kissing his ass like you when he posts stupid things, like his last post. He did not throw an INT during OTA's do you understand that. Do understand how stupid the reporter looks by saying he did. Do you realize how stupid Twerps looks for backing this guy. Oh never mind the nehxt time Twerps sits down he is going to break your neck.
Do you realize how silly you look? You were a bad poster before but now you are just ridiculous...
If you think I give a rats ass what you think of me as a poster think again. When someone is full of shit like this reporter he should be called out. When someone comes out to back a reporter who is full of shit he should be called out. Twerps wants DJ to suck so he can tell the world on blog site he was right. Wow, what a guy. I don't want DJ to suck because I am a Giants fan who wants them to succeed, I do not need to be right, I want them to win. If that makes me a bad poster perfect I would rather be that than root for my team to lose so I can be right. I can see by your comment though that your head is still firmly entrenched in his colon.
RE: So Hunt has a hard-on to make Jones seem like and report
But he did grill giants for picking Jones over Haskins, to the point I remember him bringing up the topic while reviewing giants offense in a preseason review in Giants second or third season with Jones. He’s viewed Jones as limited since day 1, not sure he’s ever moved off that take.
If Taylor does beat Jones out, so be it. I wish they'd gone after Willis, but it didn't happen because of John Mara's guilt over not given Jones a fair chance.
Now he's going to get a better chance. We'll see what he can do. Next year's QB crop, is there a possible franchise guy there ? Don't know, all I know, we sure as heck need one.
Will play the QB that gives them the best chance to win games. Regardless of what Mara says. Yes going in it’s Jones job to lose. We know how fast than can change. Football is all about competition starting with a teams roster.
If you think I give a rats ass what you think of me as a poster think again. When someone is full of shit like this reporter he should be called out. When someone comes out to back a reporter who is full of shit he should be called out. Twerps wants DJ to suck so he can tell the world on blog site he was right. Wow, what a guy. I don't want DJ to suck because I am a Giants fan who wants them to succeed, I do not need to be right, I want them to win. If that makes me a bad poster perfect I would rather be that than root for my team to lose so I can be right. I can see by your comment though that your head is still firmly entrenched in his colon.
I'm not rooting for Jones to suck. He just does suck.
What we root for doesn't matter. No one cares.
RE: RE: RE: So Hunt has a hard-on to make Jones seem like and report
If Taylor does beat Jones out, so be it. I wish they'd gone after Willis, but it didn't happen because of John Mara's guilt over not given Jones a fair chance.
Now he's going to get a better chance. We'll see what he can do. Next year's QB crop, is there a possible franchise guy there ? Don't know, all I know, we sure as heck need one.
If Daboll/Kafka/Tierney all said Willis was the QB they could develop rather than waiting until 2023 class the Giants would have pulled the trigger. Nobody expects Willis to play at all in 2022 so it is a question of do you like Willis or do you want to wait for whomever rises of Stroud, Young, McCall, Jurkovec, Haener, Ward, Van Dyke, Levis, etc.
Emory sounds like a TOP bbi poster with this take. Even if Jones is the worst QB in the league his process of making up INT's then using INts as the reason is just such flawed logic it seems like it was lifted straight from a poster here.
Can’t beat out Tyrod Taylor in a fair QB competition, then he needs to be shipped out of town tomorrow. Tyrod is competent back up QB in the NFL, nothing more.
how many of you refuse to believe this and still drink the Danny Dimes kool aid.
Wrong. Nobody here disagrees with the premise that Daniel Jones has not demonstrated himself to be a long term solution. What we will not do is argue that premise based on something demonstrably false.
However, he is the Giants QB, so I support him and hope that he is successful. I want him to become a great QB and the Giants to win a Super Bowl.
I enjoy hearing positives about Jones' development as it offers some hope.
There are some posters who are so anti Jones, that they will not be satisfied until Jones is gone. They would rather that the Giants lose, Jones plays poorly, and as a result Jones is not here next year.
Only via this scenario can they vindicate their enmity and their scathing criticisms of Jones.
If so, it seems odd that Eric doesn't remember him. I enjoyed EmDiggy's draft material, especially on small schools that don't get much coverage. Hunt may have been on BBI to drive traffic to his own site (Football Gameplan?), but he was far from unique in that regard. Maybe I have the name/handle confused with another poster.
As others have said, it wouldn't mean much if Taylor were outperforming Jones in OTAs or the truncated mini-camp. And it's not at all clear that he is. The media consensus seemed to be that Jones was competently executing the things the system requires him to do. That's about all anyone can conclude (tentatively) from 11-on-11 drills in shorts.
To the extent there will be any sort of QB competition - and I don't expect any at all - it hasn't started yet. So I wouldn't call that quote right or wrong, just wildly premature.
As for judging Jones vs. Taylor... I think it's more Jones vs. Jones, and preseason may not tell us much more than OTAs, since I expect the whole offense to be a sh!tshow in August.
That's not a pre-emptive defense of Jones. I just think the decision is pretty much made that he gets the first month or two of the regular season no matter what, barring injury. Besides, Taylor is unlikely to do much behind an awful backup line in preseason... and even if he does, it will be against second- and third-string defenses.
If so, it seems odd that Eric doesn't remember him. I enjoyed EmDiggy's draft material, especially on small schools that don't get much coverage. Hunt may have been on BBI to drive traffic to his own site (Football Gameplan?), but he was far from unique in that regard. Maybe I have the name/handle confused with another poster.
As others have said, it wouldn't mean much if Taylor were outperforming Jones in OTAs or the truncated mini-camp. And it's not at all clear that he is. The media consensus seemed to be that Jones was competently executing the things the system requires him to do. That's about all anyone can conclude (tentatively) from 11-on-11 drills in shorts.
To the extent there will be any sort of QB competition - and I don't expect any at all - it hasn't started yet. So I wouldn't call that quote right or wrong, just wildly premature.
I didn't know he was EmDiggy. So what's his backstory? He used to post on sports bulletin boards and someone hired him to cover the NFL?
RE: RE: Emory Hunt posted as EmDiggy on BBI, correct?
If so, it seems odd that Eric doesn't remember him. I enjoyed EmDiggy's draft material, especially on small schools that don't get much coverage. Hunt may have been on BBI to drive traffic to his own site (Football Gameplan?), but he was far from unique in that regard. Maybe I have the name/handle confused with another poster.
As others have said, it wouldn't mean much if Taylor were outperforming Jones in OTAs or the truncated mini-camp. And it's not at all clear that he is. The media consensus seemed to be that Jones was competently executing the things the system requires him to do. That's about all anyone can conclude (tentatively) from 11-on-11 drills in shorts.
To the extent there will be any sort of QB competition - and I don't expect any at all - it hasn't started yet. So I wouldn't call that quote right or wrong, just wildly premature.
I didn't know he was EmDiggy. So what's his backstory? He used to post on sports bulletin boards and someone hired him to cover the NFL?
Yes -- he is the BBI poster EmDiggy. We hung out with him him at camp. He appears to be a little out there on the fringe of the NFL but seems like a good guy to me. He does watch a ton of tape. He was a college RB, has some contacts in some NFL FOs and with a bunch of the players. He was originally self-invested, and won funding for a few of his projects. I believe he has an angel investor. He operates like a reporter, however, he told me that some teams let him into the building and others don't. He suspects the ones that don't think he's spying on them for other teams. Pat Traina is friends with him and has had him on her pod cast.
all offseason that it is all about learning this offseason. He has encouraged Jones to let it rip. So even if the interceptions are higher that what has been reported keep that in mind.
Like others have said seems like someone trying to stir it up.
By the way -- all of the QBs have been intercepted in camp
and from a guy that (seemingly) used to post on BBI. Is this really worth getting all worked up about?
Any by the way, didn't Daboll say he wanted Jones to be more aggressive or something like that. So what if Emory Hunt is sensationalizing a few ints from Jones during the summer.
say things contrary to the narratives the team wants to put are always hacks or have an agenda. When it's those positions that have proven to be far more right than wrong in recent memory and it is the team driven narratives that have been far closer to hack writing...
say things contrary to the narratives the team wants to put are always hacks or have an agenda. When it's those positions that have proven to be far more right than wrong in recent memory and it is the team driven narratives that have been far closer to hack writing...
This has less than nothing to do with why people are being critical of the writer in this case…
Where Hunt makes the claim WTF is Hunt talking about - ( New Window )
I listened to this. Looks like he does spots for CBS now. Hunt talks about Adoree Jackson's interception of Jones (giving it as an example), which did happen during OTAs and the rest of what he talks about is entirely his opinion. I don't see how his opinion is any different than anyone else's or why it should be picked on. There are definitely analysts out there that think Jones should be out. And they certainly could be right. I really don't see what Jones has done in three years to counter that opinion at all.
By the way -- what he says about Taylor is true. He is well-liked, players do gravitate to him, and he does understand and is comfortable with his role on the team and well as Daboll's system. Many folks on BBI have portrayed him as a possible link from Jones to the next QB if that happens and he was exactly that for Buffalo.
Just reporting on the above. As for me I am making no predictions. I am in a wait and see mode with trepidations. This team has a lot of apparent holes on it to my eyes. The only thing that appears to be improved is the oline, and I like the coaching so far both on offense and defense. The FO did add two really good offensive weapons in Robinson and Bellinger. The old WR crew (Golladay, Toney, and Shepard) is practically useless because it is unlikely that more than one of them can stay on the field at the same time if at all. We'll see with Barkley if he can stay on the field as well - that is TBD and unlikely as I see it.
Emory does watch a lot of film and is not afraid to take a contrarian view. He is right some times and wrong as well, but he has always taken a negative view of Daniel Jones, but it comes across as bias rather than a fair assessment, similar to some on BBi who take it personally. Its as if he doesn’t want to be wrong and doesn’t look at it fairly.
So lets say Jones did throw more picks than Tyrod, whats the big deal? Tyrod knows the system better, he should be better at this stage. Dabes has told Daniel Jones to take chances and get the Jason Garret conservatism out of his system. This all has to play out. Maybe Jones isn’t the guy, but for Gods sake lets play this out!
So I'm hoping he's delusional
Bill I don’t actually care who is the starting QB. Neither is a solution so this is just buying time while other pieces are figured out, and a good opportunity to find better talent at the position becomes available.
Hopefully 2023...
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actually thinks that Taylor should be our starting QB going into 2023, please say so. Otherwise, there is nothing to debate concerning whether Jones should be the starter this year. That's not to say one can't bitch about Jones.
Bill I don’t actually care who is the starting QB. Neither is a solution so this is just buying time while other pieces are figured out, and a good opportunity to find better talent at the position becomes available.
Hopefully 2023...
I'm hoping you're wrong about Jones, but I'm sure not expecting you're wrong, unfortunately
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actually thinks that Taylor should be our starting QB going into 2023, please say so. Otherwise, there is nothing to debate concerning whether Jones should be the starter this year. That's not to say one can't bitch about Jones.
Bill I don’t actually care who is the starting QB. Neither is a solution so this is just buying time while other pieces are figured out, and a good opportunity to find better talent at the position becomes available.
Hopefully 2023...
I'm hoping you're wrong about Jones, but I'm sure not expecting you're wrong, unfortunately
I gave Jones last year to show me enough signs he was a guy worth keeping. He failed, and that includes accounting for his supporting cast...
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actually thinks that Taylor should be our starting QB going into 2023, please say so. Otherwise, there is nothing to debate concerning whether Jones should be the starter this year. That's not to say one can't bitch about Jones.
Bill I don’t actually care who is the starting QB. Neither is a solution so this is just buying time while other pieces are figured out, and a good opportunity to find better talent at the position becomes available.
Hopefully 2023...
I'm hoping you're wrong about Jones, but I'm sure not expecting you're wrong, unfortunately
I gave Jones last year to show me enough signs he was a guy worth keeping. He failed, and that includes accounting for his supporting cast...
I get it. I would have like to see Jones get in those last 6 or so games. TEHO. Que sera, sera. I'm now out of cliches :)
If he said he was awesome I can guarantee you would have thought he was. This is like the sun rising this comment from you. So typical. So he threw no INT's in the OTA's Hunt claims he did, you back him am I surprised? Not at all.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
You can go back to the Locked On Giants podcast and he was killing the Giants for drafting Jones since Day 1! Sounds like he's one of the reporters who DOES NOT want to be wrong!
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Jones did not throw a pick in the mini-camp.
He threw two interceptions during the OTA on May 26 (one came on a play where Richie James slipped out of his cut and the other was when David Sills dropped/tipped the ball into the air).
Jones overthrew one ball during the OTA on May 19 that was intercepted.
He was not picked off during the OTA on June 2nd.
So there has been one interception on Jones in the five practices open to the media.
Hunt sounds like a clown who is trying to create a story.
You can go back to the Locked On Giants podcast and he was killing the Giants for drafting Jones since Day 1! Sounds like he's one of the reporters who DOES NOT want to be wrong!
Bingo!!! Just like someone else I know from this site.
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That guy watches a lot of film. He puts the work in.
If he said he was awesome I can guarantee you would have thought he was. This is like the sun rising this comment from you. So typical. So he threw no INT's in the OTA's Hunt claims he did, you back him am I surprised? Not at all.
You want to come out of the closet now? Or just keep following your hated namesake around...
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That guy watches a lot of film. He puts the work in.
If he said he was awesome I can guarantee you would have thought he was. This is like the sun rising this comment from you. So typical. So he threw no INT's in the OTA's Hunt claims he did, you back him am I surprised? Not at all.
You want to come out of the closet now? Or just keep following your hated namesake around...
I am in a lot of posts that he does not post in. I respond to him in stead of kissing his ass like you when he posts stupid things, like his last post. He did not throw an INT during OTA's do you understand that. Do understand how stupid the reporter looks by saying he did. Do you realize how stupid Twerps looks for backing this guy. Oh never mind the next time Twerps sits down he is going to break your neck.
Unfortunately I think you are correct with your take. I ve also stated before I think the Barkley pick at 2 set into motion the dynamics that led to this selection
But it is what it is and It s the past, I m hoping for the best
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That guy watches a lot of film. He puts the work in.
If he said he was awesome I can guarantee you would have thought he was. This is like the sun rising this comment from you. So typical. So he threw no INT's in the OTA's Hunt claims he did, you back him am I surprised? Not at all.
You want to come out of the closet now? Or just keep following your hated namesake around...
I am in a lot of posts that he does not post in. I respond to him in stead of kissing his ass like you when he posts stupid things, like his last post. He did not throw an INT during OTA's do you understand that. Do understand how stupid the reporter looks by saying he did. Do you realize how stupid Twerps looks for backing this guy. Oh never mind the nehxt time Twerps sits down he is going to break your neck.
Do you realize how silly you look? You were a bad poster before but now you are just ridiculous...
But why would that be...just to get clicks?
Rumor is he's from Maryland.... and likes turtles. NTTAWWT
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that he is a lesser QB in camp. I don’t know anything thing about him.
But why would that be...just to get clicks?
Rumor is he's from Maryland.... and likes turtles. NTTAWWT
Perfect!!
"He's here to tutor him"
If Taylor does beat Jones out, so be it. I wish they'd gone after Willis, but it didn't happen because of John Mara's guilt over not given Jones a fair chance.
Now he's going to get a better chance. We'll see what he can do. Next year's QB crop, is there a possible franchise guy there ? Don't know, all I know, we sure as heck need one.
I'm not rooting for Jones to suck. He just does suck.
What we root for doesn't matter. No one cares.
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that he is a lesser QB in camp. I don’t know anything thing about him.
But why would that be...just to get clicks?
Rumor is he's from Maryland.... and likes turtles. NTTAWWT
Perfect!!
Why do you hate Maryland?
Agreed. I also will not be listening to any poster who is quoting and backing him.
"He's here to tutor him"
If Taylor does beat Jones out, so be it. I wish they'd gone after Willis, but it didn't happen because of John Mara's guilt over not given Jones a fair chance.
Now he's going to get a better chance. We'll see what he can do. Next year's QB crop, is there a possible franchise guy there ? Don't know, all I know, we sure as heck need one.
If Daboll/Kafka/Tierney all said Willis was the QB they could develop rather than waiting until 2023 class the Giants would have pulled the trigger. Nobody expects Willis to play at all in 2022 so it is a question of do you like Willis or do you want to wait for whomever rises of Stroud, Young, McCall, Jurkovec, Haener, Ward, Van Dyke, Levis, etc.
What is to believe? Hunt has the facts wrong so why do you think there is a scenario he presents that is to be believed?
Wrong. Nobody here disagrees with the premise that Daniel Jones has not demonstrated himself to be a long term solution. What we will not do is argue that premise based on something demonstrably false.
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how many of you refuse to believe this and still drink the Danny Dimes kool aid.
What is to believe? Hunt has the facts wrong so why do you think there is a scenario he presents that is to be believed?
How do we know that?
However, he is the Giants QB, so I support him and hope that he is successful. I want him to become a great QB and the Giants to win a Super Bowl.
I enjoy hearing positives about Jones' development as it offers some hope.
There are some posters who are so anti Jones, that they will not be satisfied until Jones is gone. They would rather that the Giants lose, Jones plays poorly, and as a result Jones is not here next year.
Only via this scenario can they vindicate their enmity and their scathing criticisms of Jones.
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how many of you refuse to believe this and still drink the Danny Dimes kool aid.
What is to believe? Hunt has the facts wrong so why do you think there is a scenario he presents that is to be believed?
How do we know that?
Did you read Eric's posts? He listed exactly what the rest of the media stated regarding the OTs and practices they were allowed to watch?
Eric's not a DJ fanboy, he just posts what he has heard and seen
But neither is a long term solution. We're punting this year at QB.
I get that you don't like Jones, but if you honestly think Taylor is a better player right now, then your opinions are worthless.
As others have said, it wouldn't mean much if Taylor were outperforming Jones in OTAs or the truncated mini-camp. And it's not at all clear that he is. The media consensus seemed to be that Jones was competently executing the things the system requires him to do. That's about all anyone can conclude (tentatively) from 11-on-11 drills in shorts.
To the extent there will be any sort of QB competition - and I don't expect any at all - it hasn't started yet. So I wouldn't call that quote right or wrong, just wildly premature.
As for judging Jones vs. Taylor... I think it's more Jones vs. Jones, and preseason may not tell us much more than OTAs, since I expect the whole offense to be a sh!tshow in August.
That's not a pre-emptive defense of Jones. I just think the decision is pretty much made that he gets the first month or two of the regular season no matter what, barring injury. Besides, Taylor is unlikely to do much behind an awful backup line in preseason... and even if he does, it will be against second- and third-string defenses.
As others have said, it wouldn't mean much if Taylor were outperforming Jones in OTAs or the truncated mini-camp. And it's not at all clear that he is. The media consensus seemed to be that Jones was competently executing the things the system requires him to do. That's about all anyone can conclude (tentatively) from 11-on-11 drills in shorts.
To the extent there will be any sort of QB competition - and I don't expect any at all - it hasn't started yet. So I wouldn't call that quote right or wrong, just wildly premature.
I didn't know he was EmDiggy. So what's his backstory? He used to post on sports bulletin boards and someone hired him to cover the NFL?
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If so, it seems odd that Eric doesn't remember him. I enjoyed EmDiggy's draft material, especially on small schools that don't get much coverage. Hunt may have been on BBI to drive traffic to his own site (Football Gameplan?), but he was far from unique in that regard. Maybe I have the name/handle confused with another poster.
As others have said, it wouldn't mean much if Taylor were outperforming Jones in OTAs or the truncated mini-camp. And it's not at all clear that he is. The media consensus seemed to be that Jones was competently executing the things the system requires him to do. That's about all anyone can conclude (tentatively) from 11-on-11 drills in shorts.
To the extent there will be any sort of QB competition - and I don't expect any at all - it hasn't started yet. So I wouldn't call that quote right or wrong, just wildly premature.
I didn't know he was EmDiggy. So what's his backstory? He used to post on sports bulletin boards and someone hired him to cover the NFL?
Yes -- he is the BBI poster EmDiggy. We hung out with him him at camp. He appears to be a little out there on the fringe of the NFL but seems like a good guy to me. He does watch a ton of tape. He was a college RB, has some contacts in some NFL FOs and with a bunch of the players. He was originally self-invested, and won funding for a few of his projects. I believe he has an angel investor. He operates like a reporter, however, he told me that some teams let him into the building and others don't. He suspects the ones that don't think he's spying on them for other teams. Pat Traina is friends with him and has had him on her pod cast.
Like others have said seems like someone trying to stir it up.
Any by the way, didn't Daboll say he wanted Jones to be more aggressive or something like that. So what if Emory Hunt is sensationalizing a few ints from Jones during the summer.
This has less than nothing to do with why people are being critical of the writer in this case…
I listened to this. Looks like he does spots for CBS now. Hunt talks about Adoree Jackson's interception of Jones (giving it as an example), which did happen during OTAs and the rest of what he talks about is entirely his opinion. I don't see how his opinion is any different than anyone else's or why it should be picked on. There are definitely analysts out there that think Jones should be out. And they certainly could be right. I really don't see what Jones has done in three years to counter that opinion at all.
By the way -- what he says about Taylor is true. He is well-liked, players do gravitate to him, and he does understand and is comfortable with his role on the team and well as Daboll's system. Many folks on BBI have portrayed him as a possible link from Jones to the next QB if that happens and he was exactly that for Buffalo.
Just reporting on the above. As for me I am making no predictions. I am in a wait and see mode with trepidations. This team has a lot of apparent holes on it to my eyes. The only thing that appears to be improved is the oline, and I like the coaching so far both on offense and defense. The FO did add two really good offensive weapons in Robinson and Bellinger. The old WR crew (Golladay, Toney, and Shepard) is practically useless because it is unlikely that more than one of them can stay on the field at the same time if at all. We'll see with Barkley if he can stay on the field as well - that is TBD and unlikely as I see it.