24 HR, 71 Hits, 48 RBI's, through 60 games. This forecast out to 68 HR, 203 hits, 147 RBI's. The overall numbers would make it the best triple crown numbers ever. I tried researching with Baseball-reference and could not find a better number for a player. Gehrig comes close. I left out AVG but the forecast indicates he will be above 320 for average over that time.
Based on the schedule, I think he can do this so long as he stays healthy.
Again, phenomenal year but not a triple crown year. MVP, you bet.
What an odd post.
I think he has a chance of being the first half billion contract in US sports. Not a big chance, but a chance (he probably does if he's a couple years younger). He should get more than Trout though, IMO.
1. Steinbrenner didn't want Henderson, Billy Martin had to talk him into it
2. Mattingly to Texas was very close to happening
Well, that's baseball Susan
Cashman finally reached out to Judge's agent last week. Hadn't spoken since spring training.
I agree, the age will prevent it.
True, I left out average but he is leading in three major Categories right now. Call it a revised triple Crown but for him to put up these numbers they are pretty awesome. He still has outside shot of getting avg up.
I bet he gets something in line with what he was asking for anyways. The Yankees made a fair offer at the time and Judge wanted more than anyone would've pegged his value at before this season. As long as he stays healthy he'll likely get what he initially was looking for, but I can't see him blowing past $35M AAV for 8-9 years.
Well actually you left out not only average but rbi's too, since he's not on pace to lead the league in that either. If your "revised" triple crown is HR's, runs, and ops, then you're right on. I wonder if mlb will have a ceremony to celebrate that trifecta.
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Just have to exclude home runs and RBIs like you excluded batting average for Judge.
True, I left out average but he is leading in three major Categories right now. Call it a revised triple Crown but for him to put up these numbers they are pretty awesome. He still has outside shot of getting avg up.
I wouldn't hang the hat on the average stat so long as Judge stays above 320, he is going to way outpace Mantle in Hits and RBI's compared to 1956 season if he keeps this up because he is going to have 1/4 more At bats this season because this team is going through the lineup 5-6 times a game ver the usual 3-4 for normal teams.
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True, I left out average but he is leading in three major Categories right now. Call it a revised triple Crown but for him to put up these numbers they are pretty awesome. He still has outside shot of getting avg up.
Well actually you left out not only average but rbi's too, since he's not on pace to lead the league in that either. If your "revised" triple crown is HR's, runs, and ops, then you're right on. I wonder if mlb will have a ceremony to celebrate that trifecta.
If you look at the last 25 games, Judge is trending to surpass Jose Ramirez and Pete Alonzo in RBI's. that is if he keeps his average above 320
and he plays a great CF too. He might win a gold glove to boot.
Dan, Project out the number of At bats Judge is going to have with this team vs those players you mentioned. He won't get the average but he will pass Alonzo and Ramirez in RBI's and hits.
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the triple crown is a specific "stat". It's HR's, Batting average and RBI. Judge is having an incredible season, he is not on pace to win a triple crown. Arraez is hitting .362, Judge .318. Judge is 6th in the AL in BA, 2nd in RBI (Ramirez).
Dan, Project out the number of At bats Judge is going to have with this team vs those players you mentioned. He won't get the average but he will pass Alonzo and Ramirez in RBI's and hits.
0% snark, no idea what this means.
He's nowhere near a triple crown. Alonso has no impact on Judge winning triple crown, Arraez's 42 point advantage on average does.
AL MVP Judge with Ramirez on his tail and Devers third
NL MVP Too close to call between Betts/Goldschmidt/Machado
The trend is Judge is going to have way more at bats then Ramirez going forward with the 4th weakest schedule. He is going to get 5 to 6 at bats per game for at least 70 of the remaining games. Ramirez is not. The ore at bats gives judge the opportunity for more RBI's
1. Steinbrenner didn't want Henderson, Billy Martin had to talk him into it
2. Mattingly to Texas was very close to happening
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or at least they are losing big time. This may turn into a 10 year 400 million dollar contract if they want to keep him. Brutal job trying to lowball Judge.
I don't think they gambled and lost. I think they made a more than fair offer. Judge gambled on himself and, so far, he's won.
Judge deserves every penny what's coming to him. Just astounding what he is doing right now.
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can't recommend "Rickey" by Howard Bryant any more highly for Yankee fans. I'm about 75% through the book and it's really a great read. I mentioned this the other day but Sandy Alderson didn't trust the A's scouting department so his asking price from the Yankees came via Baseball America's top 10 list lol. Also (and maybe this is well known by Yankee fans)
1. Steinbrenner didn't want Henderson, Billy Martin had to talk him into it
2. Mattingly to Texas was very close to happening
#1 I recall. #2 I don't remember ever hearing. What are the details around that?
Per Bryant, Mattingly was fed up with Steinbrenner and said something suggesting that while The Boss paid him, it was like pulling teeth and he wasn't shown "respect" so Thrift was engaged in talks with Texas before they landed Palmeiro instead.
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the triple crown is a specific "stat". It's HR's, Batting average and RBI. Judge is having an incredible season, he is not on pace to win a triple crown. Arraez is hitting .362, Judge .318. Judge is 6th in the AL in BA, 2nd in RBI (Ramirez).
Dan, Project out the number of At bats Judge is going to have with this team vs those players you mentioned. He won't get the average but he will pass Alonzo and Ramirez in RBI's and hits.
0% snark, no idea what this means.
He's nowhere near a triple crown. Alonso has no impact on Judge winning triple crown, Arraez's 42 point advantage on average does.
I really don't think Arraez will keep up that average. He is going to cool off after all star break with that schedule he has to play.
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don't understand "trending toward" means here. Ramirez has more RBI than Judge over the last 30 days, what is this "trend"? Ramirez 27, Judge 21
The trend is Judge is going to have way more at bats then Ramirez going forward with the 4th weakest schedule. He is going to get 5 to 6 at bats per game for at least 70 of the remaining games. Ramirez is not. The ore at bats gives judge the opportunity for more RBI's
PA leaders typically average around 4.5 per game, and those are the leaders. How the hell is Judge going to average "5 or 6" AB's (or PA's)? You're just making up numbers.
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can't recommend "Rickey" by Howard Bryant any more highly for Yankee fans. I'm about 75% through the book and it's really a great read. I mentioned this the other day but Sandy Alderson didn't trust the A's scouting department so his asking price from the Yankees came via Baseball America's top 10 list lol. Also (and maybe this is well known by Yankee fans)
1. Steinbrenner didn't want Henderson, Billy Martin had to talk him into it
2. Mattingly to Texas was very close to happening
#1 I recall. #2 I don't remember ever hearing. What are the details around that?
Per Bryant, Mattingly was fed up with Steinbrenner and said something suggesting that while The Boss paid him, it was like pulling teeth and he wasn't shown "respect" so Thrift was engaged in talks with Texas before they landed Palmeiro instead.
The 1980's was a very frustrating decade for the yankees and mattingly. I still say moving Righetti to closer was a wrong move to this day. The pitching staff never recovered from having a true Ace.
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don't understand "trending toward" means here. Ramirez has more RBI than Judge over the last 30 days, what is this "trend"? Ramirez 27, Judge 21
The trend is Judge is going to have way more at bats then Ramirez going forward with the 4th weakest schedule. He is going to get 5 to 6 at bats per game for at least 70 of the remaining games. Ramirez is not. The ore at bats gives judge the opportunity for more RBI's
PA leaders typically average around 4.5 per game, and those are the leaders. How the hell is Judge going to average "5 or 6" AB's (or PA's)? You're just making up numbers.
Dan, The team is putting up double digit runs like nobody's business and the schedule overall is weak going forward. Judge is going to get to 5 at bats average over rest of season..this is what i see. There's the Yankees Lineup rotation and then there is everyone else.
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It would have been the highest AAV contract for an Outfielder sans Mike Trout who is an all-time great and signed his deal at 27.
and he plays a great CF too. He might win a gold glove to boot.
Is it? is it a joke champ? It was a joke. They didn't even rip up his arbitration year, they were looking to tack on teh new deal after the arbitration year. It was a massive lowball. They were about $75 million apart and Judge knew his value. Say it with me....LOWBALL.
1. Steinbrenner didn't want Henderson, Billy Martin had to talk him into it
2. Mattingly to Texas was very close to happening
Michael Kay had the author on for a long interview last week. It does sound really interesting. Ricky definitely was a character.
Judge is a leader and he is going to put it all in the middle. It's great to watch.
which to me is sad. nothing more boring then HR, K, BB except maybe NBA 3 pt. launching
Fans gotta blame someone or bitch about something.
Meanwhile, in the real world, a good chunk of fans here and everywhere were questioning Judge's long term and even present potential and staying power. I remember laughing at threads...literally.
So now the Yanks blew it...that's rich.
He will be signed by the Yanks and then you can worry about the contract and bitch when Judge misses a month due to some typical injury that nearly every player endures.
Enjoy the season. Don't sweat the money.
Really?
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It would have been the highest AAV contract for an Outfielder sans Mike Trout who is an all-time great and signed his deal at 27.
Fans gotta blame someone or bitch about something.
Meanwhile, in the real world, a good chunk of fans here and everywhere were questioning Judge's long term and even present potential and staying power. I remember laughing at threads...literally.
So now the Yanks blew it...that's rich.
He will be signed by the Yanks and then you can worry about the contract and bitch when Judge misses a month due to some typical injury that nearly every player endures.
Enjoy the season. Don't sweat the money.
Lol so because you were wrong(you usually are), that means I'm bitching? Judge was always a top 3 MLB position player and contracts are out of control. You don't draw the line with Judge pal.