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NFT: Rays @ Yankees 6/15 7:05PM

Jints in Carolina : 6/15/2022 3:22 pm
NYY
DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Aaron Judge (R) CF
Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
Josh Donaldson (R) 3B
Gleyber Torres (R) DH
Aaron Hicks (S) LF
Isiah Kiner-Falefa (R) SS
Kyle Higashioka (R) C

Rays lineup not out yet.

McClanahan vs. Cortes

Dynamite pitching matchup
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RE: whoa - Mariano territory -  
Scooter185 : 6/15/2022 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15733586 Del Shofner said:
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11 of 11 in save opportunities and 0.29 ERA

talking Holmes


Chapman may need to catch a case of the Ellsbury
RE: Now they just have to go 16-4 in their next 20  
guitarguybs12 : 6/15/2022 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15733583 Greg from LI said:
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To match the '98 Yanks 😂


well they just went 17-3 in these last 20 so wouldn't put it past them!
High water mark in winning percentage that is  
Greg from LI : 6/15/2022 10:17 pm : link
Not games over .500
They made him work but Holmes does it again  
Stu11 : 6/15/2022 10:17 pm : link
I can't even blame the hp ump for not giving him that pitch. No pitch should be allowed to be that filthy. 99 mph and it broke about a foot.
RE: won a game  
beatrixkiddo : 6/15/2022 10:18 pm : link
In comment 15733577 Del Shofner said:
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with only 3 hits


Yeah with how cold the offense was outside of Judge and Higgy’s sole ABs, I didn’t think they would hang on and win. Felt like the Rays kept finding a way to get hits and get runners on. Excellent win and Holmes really closed the door on them tonight after Castro and Lutge flubbed. Nice win, and impressive win streak. Now get the sweep!
Luetge got soft contact  
Greg from LI : 6/15/2022 10:19 pm : link
Just rotten luck. Two total cheapies.

Castro did get hit hard.
they intentionally walked IKF to get to Higgy  
Del Shofner : 6/15/2022 10:24 pm : link
- that's some baseball karma humor right there
The Jays and Sox both won  
Greg from LI : 6/15/2022 10:29 pm : link
And yet again, make up no ground. Love it.
RE: RE: whoa - Mariano territory -  
bwitz : 6/15/2022 10:31 pm : link
In comment 15733588 Scooter185 said:
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11 of 11 in save opportunities and 0.29 ERA

talking Holmes



Chapman may need to catch a case of the Ellsbury


Not really. He already lost his job; Boone has said as much. He’ll either be a nice piece to add to the pen or trade bait.
RE: The Jays and Sox both won  
bwitz : 6/15/2022 10:33 pm : link
In comment 15733599 Greg from LI said:
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And yet again, make up no ground. Love it.


RE: RE: won a game  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/15/2022 10:56 pm : link
In comment 15733593 beatrixkiddo said:
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with only 3 hits



Yeah with how cold the offense was outside of Judge and Higgy’s sole ABs, I didn’t think they would hang on and win. Felt like the Rays kept finding a way to get hits and get runners on. Excellent win and Holmes really closed the door on them tonight after Castro and Lutge flubbed. Nice win, and impressive win streak. Now get the sweep!


Exactly. The past few years; it's games like this that the Yankees would lose. Not so much this season, though.
RE: RE: The Jays and Sox both won  
Eman11 : 6/15/2022 11:03 pm : link
In comment 15733604 bwitz said:
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And yet again, make up no ground. Love it.





Haha. Sox went 8-2 in their last ten and lost a game in the standings! Gotta love that
That was a fun game to attend  
Mike from SI : 6/16/2022 12:20 am : link
but the 10-15 minute delay toward the end was quite weird. Everyone eventually kind of figured out what was going on, but cmon, make a ruling and keep the game moving.
Was just scrolling through some of the comments  
Mike from SI : 6/16/2022 12:23 am : link
the hits off Luetge were absolute cheapies, hard to be mad about that.

Also McClanahan's stuff is filthy in person, and his delivery is silky smooth. Unfortunately, TB may have their new David Price.
RE: RE: RE: whoa - Mariano territory -  
section125 : 6/16/2022 6:27 am : link
In comment 15733602 bwitz said:
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In comment 15733586 Del Shofner said:


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11 of 11 in save opportunities and 0.29 ERA

talking Holmes



Chapman may need to catch a case of the Ellsbury



Not really. He already lost his job; Boone has said as much. He’ll either be a nice piece to add to the pen or trade bait.


Unless I heard Kay wrong, he said Boone said Chapman was the closer upon return and Holmes gets the high leverage portion of the game/lineup.
Anyone else hear it that way or did I mis-hear?
RE: Was just scrolling through some of the comments  
beatrixkiddo : 6/16/2022 8:14 am : link
In comment 15733630 Mike from SI said:
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the hits off Luetge were absolute cheapies, hard to be mad about that.

Also McClanahan's stuff is filthy in person, and his delivery is silky smooth. Unfortunately, TB may have their new David Price.


Yeah he has the looks of an Ace, but let’s hope your right in your Price comp. because the Yanks owned Price, hopefully they can find ways to consistently hit this new kid.
RE: RE: RE: RE: whoa - Mariano territory -  
BigBlueShock : 6/16/2022 9:05 am : link
In comment 15733637 section125 said:
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11 of 11 in save opportunities and 0.29 ERA

talking Holmes



Chapman may need to catch a case of the Ellsbury



Not really. He already lost his job; Boone has said as much. He’ll either be a nice piece to add to the pen or trade bait.



Unless I heard Kay wrong, he said Boone said Chapman was the closer upon return and Holmes gets the high leverage portion of the game/lineup.
Anyone else hear it that way or did I mis-hear?

He didn’t necessarily say Chapman would be the closer. He said that Holmes would pitch the high leverage situations. That could be in the 8th inning if the heart of the order is coming up or it could be the 9th inning
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: whoa - Mariano territory -  
section125 : 6/16/2022 9:18 am : link
In comment 15733685 BigBlueShock said:
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He didn’t necessarily say Chapman would be the closer. He said that Holmes would pitch the high leverage situations. That could be in the 8th inning if the heart of the order is coming up or it could be the 9th inning


Yeah, that sounds like it. Holmes and King in high leverage is the way to go. Wandy has been pretty good too.
I am hoping the Lasagna's sore shoulder was the reason for his ineffectiveness and that he is back to normal after the rest.
I would just like to take a moment and say again....  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2022 9:23 am : link
...how weird it was seeing Nestor get bonked on the head by the throw back from the catcher
RE: I would just like to take a moment and say again....  
section125 : 6/16/2022 9:32 am : link
In comment 15733694 Greg from LI said:
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...how weird it was seeing Nestor get bonked on the head by the throw back from the catcher


Saw that in a little league game a long time ago...it was pretty funny(because it didn't lead to a run).
I didn't hear Kay but yes that's what Boone said  
arniefez : 6/16/2022 9:40 am : link
Holmes gets high leverage and will close some too. Chapman will close. I think Boone is finally growing into the job. I think that's the correct way to handle it with the media. If Chapman isn't effective he won't be closing for long. Chapman coming back hopefully effective, hopefully Loaisiga comes back before the all star break and Britton before September. The more arms the better. It's a long way to October. Chapman and Britton's 30 million is off the books once the season ends. Hal's going to need it for the Judge fund.
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arcarsenal : 6/16/2022 9:53 am : link
I think Boone is being careful with his words for the sake of morale and not wanting to just basically say "yeah, Chapman has lost his job" - but, it's evident that Holmes is special and there's no reason to believe he won't continue to get the lions share of the save opps and highest leverage spots.

I am looking forward to getting Loaisiga back. He's close. If he's going to get back to anything like he was in '21, that is a massive, massive boost for the pen.

Sweep these fucking toilet stains tonight. I can't stand them.
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arcarsenal : 6/16/2022 9:55 am : link
Also, keep in mind that a guy like JP Sears probably winds up helping in a role similar to Schmidt down the stretch this year. I have a feeling he's going to become an important part of the pitching equation later in the season.
I didn't pick up the game  
Carson53 : 6/16/2022 10:09 am : link
until the 7th inning, got dicey in the 8th, but Holmes did his job at the end. One thing I like about the guy, with his turbo sinker, no gopher balls.
His ball moves all over the place.
Higgy even helping out lately, good to see. He needed that.
Lets sweep the Rays out of town.
No reason  
Carson53 : 6/16/2022 10:13 am : link
whatsoever to move Holmes out of the closer role. zero reason.
Chapman won't be here next year, they don't owe him anything, he hasn't earned it.
Britton also may be back somewhere down the line  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2022 10:16 am : link
It's a long shot but if he is effective, he will be useful to have
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arcarsenal : 6/16/2022 10:23 am : link
Britton was really, really good in '19 and '20. If we can get anything close to that version of him again that's definitely a big plus.

Does anyone even want to see German back in any capacity? I don't.
RE: .  
section125 : 6/16/2022 10:27 am : link
In comment 15733744 arcarsenal said:
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Does anyone even want to see German back in any capacity? I don't.


Why? He is a damn good pitcher...
RE: No reason  
BigBlueShock : 6/16/2022 10:27 am : link
In comment 15733732 Carson53 said:
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whatsoever to move Holmes out of the closer role. zero reason.
Chapman won't be here next year, they don't owe him anything, he hasn't earned it.

You’re not necessarily wrong but it’s also in the teams best interest to get Chapman back on track. Most of his issues are mental and a demotion to middle relief would likely not go very well. But they need to build him back up because it either helps the team down the stretch or increases his trade value if they decide to move on from him before the deadline. A dominant Chapman would still bring in a decent haul from a contender. A mentally distressed Chapman is of no use to anyone.

One of the great things about stretching the division lead is that it affords them the opportunity to see if they can sort Chapman out. In order to get there, he must see some high leverage situations. I fully expect fans to get overly emotional about it when it happens but it serves a purpose
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arcarsenal : 6/16/2022 10:30 am : link
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Does anyone even want to see German back in any capacity? I don't.



Why? He is a damn good pitcher...


Domingo German? The guy with the career 4.54 ERA?
RE: RE: RE: .  
section125 : 6/16/2022 10:36 am : link
In comment 15733749 arcarsenal said:
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Does anyone even want to see German back in any capacity? I don't.



Why? He is a damn good pitcher...



Domingo German? The guy with the career 4.54 ERA?


Good enough to be a 4 or 5 starter in any league. He is a good pitcher. Could be put in the pen and instantly be better than Castro.

Will be beat out any of the starters? No

Could he fill in because of injury or when inning start to get limited? Yes - that will be needed come August.
Aside from the first few months of 2019  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2022 10:37 am : link
German has always been mediocre at best.
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arcarsenal : 6/16/2022 10:40 am : link
If someone gets hurt, I'd much rather see Sears or even Wesneski. I don't see any upside with German. He had a good stretch in 2019, and he's been average/crappy since. K/9 has declined every year. Gives up a lot of HR's.

Or Waldichuk  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2022 10:41 am : link
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RE: Aside from the first few months of 2019  
section125 : 6/16/2022 10:42 am : link
In comment 15733753 Greg from LI said:
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German has always been mediocre at best.


Then why do they keep him? His problem has been injuries. Yeah, doesn't do them any good when he is on the IL, but his stuff isn't mediocre. My guess is Blake is working with him to get better control of the zone.
Stuff may be good  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2022 10:45 am : link
But his command sucks. He leaves pitches over the plate and he gets tattooed.
RE: Stuff may be good  
section125 : 6/16/2022 10:48 am : link
In comment 15733762 Greg from LI said:
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But his command sucks. He leaves pitches over the plate and he gets tattooed.


And it all happens in 1 inning, usually the 4th or 5th - like a lack of concentration. Cruises along, bang gets hit hard then next inning is ok. That is his MO.
I don't want to try to root for German  
Heisenberg : 6/16/2022 10:49 am : link
Hoping they move him at the deadline.
RE: Britton also may be back somewhere down the line  
OBJ_AllDay : 6/16/2022 10:52 am : link
In comment 15733737 Greg from LI said:
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It's a long shot but if he is effective, he will be useful to have


Never understood the love for Britton. Guy was always a Chapman like heart attack. Walking himself into trouble. Never easy with him.
RE: RE: Britton also may be back somewhere down the line  
arcarsenal : 6/16/2022 12:29 pm : link
In comment 15733771 OBJ_AllDay said:
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It's a long shot but if he is effective, he will be useful to have



Never understood the love for Britton. Guy was always a Chapman like heart attack. Walking himself into trouble. Never easy with him.


In 2021, yes... his walk rate was literally double his career norm. He wasn't healthy.

He was a very good RP the 2 prior years - ERA under 2 in both seasons. ERA isn't everything, but he's a guy who gets upward of 75% ground balls when he's right. Players don't elevate the ball against his sinker.

If he's the pre-2021 guy, we'd be getting a high quality reliever.
RE: RE: RE: Britton also may be back somewhere down the line  
section125 : 6/16/2022 12:57 pm : link
In comment 15733864 arcarsenal said:
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It's a long shot but if he is effective, he will be useful to have



Never understood the love for Britton. Guy was always a Chapman like heart attack. Walking himself into trouble. Never easy with him.



In 2021, yes... his walk rate was literally double his career norm. He wasn't healthy.

He was a very good RP the 2 prior years - ERA under 2 in both seasons. ERA isn't everything, but he's a guy who gets upward of 75% ground balls when he's right. Players don't elevate the ball against his sinker.

If he's the pre-2021 guy, we'd be getting a high quality reliever.


Age hurts everything in sports, but he was one of the best relievers in baseball before he blew up is elbow.
Comes down to, would you rather have 90% Britton or Luetge/Castro? Even 80% Britton is better than either of those two.
Maybe none of the above  
xman : 6/16/2022 1:38 pm : link
Britton had a few brilliant years but like many relievers thats in the past.
Re German  
Mike from SI : 6/16/2022 1:56 pm : link
I believe the league had really good numbers off his fastball. The MPH may be high but for whatever reason it's not fooling anyone.
If you throw 98, but it's dead straight and middle-middle....  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2022 2:19 pm : link
MLB hitters are going to tee off on you sometimes.
Anyway, looking down on the farm  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2022 2:35 pm : link
Volpe got off to a horrendous start but has picked it up quite a bit in June. .296/.356/.463 in 14 games.

Oswald Peraza has been slower to improve but just had a big week, going 7-19 with a homer and a double. Hopefully that's the start of his breakout.

Ken Waldichuk hasn't missed a beat since moving up to Scranton. 1.69 ERA in 4 starts, only 10 hits allowed in 21 innings, 32 K/8 BB.

Austin Wells is absolutely raking for Hudson Valley: .323/.429/.576.

Anthony Seigler, their 2018 first round pick, has been kind of a washout, not playing much due to injuries and struggling when he did play, but he's showing signs of life this year and displaying some serious on-base skill. Between Tampa and Hudson Valley, he's hitting .270/.450/.476 with 6 homers in 41 games.

The Martian has cooled off in June after a scorching May, really struggling in the past week (1-14). Hope to see him turn it back on soon.
Ugh  
BigBlueShock : 6/16/2022 3:24 pm : link
Severino is headed to the Covid IL. Schmidt will start tonight’s game
RE: Ugh  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/16/2022 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15733987 BigBlueShock said:
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Severino is headed to the Covid IL. Schmidt will start tonight’s game


*facepalm*
Frustrating coming off two great starts.  
Mad Mike : 6/16/2022 3:35 pm : link
Hopefully he's negative/symptom-free and back soon.
RE: Ugh  
Greg from LI : 6/16/2022 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15733987 BigBlueShock said:
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Severino is headed to the Covid IL. Schmidt will start tonight’s game


Severino is already back.  
Mad Mike : 12:17 pm : link
Haven't seen when his next start will be, but presumably they wouldn't have activated him unless he was going to slot back in more or less right away.
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