As the NFL winds down its investigation of Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson, the league is reportedly going to argue that the quarterback should receive a “significant” suspension for violating the NFL’s personal conduct policy, per The Washington Post.
A source close to the Watson’s side said that the NFL “probably” will go with a one-season suspension, per The Post. However, a different source close to the NFL’s side of the case said to be “careful” about a specific suspension length, but that the punishment will be “significant.” |
Would’ve had some picks conditional too
Texans did a good job , finally , with this deal.
lol, no they didn't, just the Browns being the Browns.
Even non Browns like Darius Leonard felt it was wrong how headstrong the media was about "going at him". Like, fuck off dude.
What did he say?
Lol, exactly. I’m not going to call anyone out, but there were a few of the usual suspects suggesting we trade our two top 10’s this year, a first in 2023 and more to land him in a trade. And also cut a bunch of players given the fact the Giants had no cap room to sign him to some mega deal.
Even non Browns like Darius Leonard felt it was wrong how headstrong the media was about "going at him". Like, fuck off dude.
I don't know any athletes that well, but in my mind this reaction is because they all get massages (for example) and they all expect the masseuse (metaphorical) is a willing participant in a happy ending just because they are rich and famous athletes.
Some of the basketball groupie stuff I have read is absolutely wild. I imagine most athletes think this way and it's "the culture" and not in any way making excuses or saying it's ok, but IMO there is a lot of enablement along the way.
So, not putting words or thoughts in anyone's mouth or mind, but I wouldn't be surprised if they feel like Watson didn't really do anything wrong. Because they all do it as some level or something similar.
A move like this sounds like owner meddling. Have to think Jimmy and Dee Haslam saw what happened with Matt Stafford and thought they would follow the model.
this move just goes against anything Paul DePosdesta like
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Would be surprised, or not, on how careless the players are on this guy. Recently both Myles Garrett called it a slip up, and Jadeveon Clowney said he re-signed with CLE and would have gone to ATL if Watson went there.
Even non Browns like Darius Leonard felt it was wrong how headstrong the media was about "going at him". Like, fuck off dude.
I don't know any athletes that well, but in my mind this reaction is because they all get massages (for example) and they all expect the masseuse (metaphorical) is a willing participant in a happy ending just because they are rich and famous athletes.
Some of the basketball groupie stuff I have read is absolutely wild. I imagine most athletes think this way and it's "the culture" and not in any way making excuses or saying it's ok, but IMO there is a lot of enablement along the way.
So, not putting words or thoughts in anyone's mouth or mind, but I wouldn't be surprised if they feel like Watson didn't really do anything wrong. Because they all do it as some level or something similar.
Basically, people in a position of power.
Pretty said commentary.
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Would be surprised, or not, on how careless the players are on this guy. Recently both Myles Garrett called it a slip up, and Jadeveon Clowney said he re-signed with CLE and would have gone to ATL if Watson went there.
Even non Browns like Darius Leonard felt it was wrong how headstrong the media was about "going at him". Like, fuck off dude.
I don't know any athletes that well, but in my mind this reaction is because they all get massages (for example) and they all expect the masseuse (metaphorical) is a willing participant in a happy ending just because they are rich and famous athletes.
Some of the basketball groupie stuff I have read is absolutely wild. I imagine most athletes think this way and it's "the culture" and not in any way making excuses or saying it's ok, but IMO there is a lot of enablement along the way.
So, not putting words or thoughts in anyone's mouth or mind, but I wouldn't be surprised if they feel like Watson didn't really do anything wrong. Because they all do it as some level or something similar.
Basically, people in a position of power.
Pretty said commentary.
Pretty SAD commentary.
In order of importance:
1. pleasure, including sexual pleasure
2. revenge
3. greed
4. power
I think both the Deshaun Watson episode and this thread illustrate the truth of what Russell said
In order of importance:
1. pleasure, including sexual pleasure
2. revenge
3. greed
4. power
I think both the Deshaun Watson episode and this thread illustrate the truth of what Russell said
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clamored for the Giants to go after him in the last year or so.
Lol, exactly. I’m not going to call anyone out, but there were a few of the usual suspects suggesting we trade our two top 10’s this year, a first in 2023 and more to land him in a trade. And also cut a bunch of players given the fact the Giants had no cap room to sign him to some mega deal.
You mean the usual suspects that caveated their remarks that any pursuit of Watson would have to include some understanding of what the NFL was planning to do with any suspensions?
Those usual suspects?
In order of importance:
1. pleasure, including sexual pleasure
2. revenge
3. greed
4. power
I think both the Deshaun Watson episode and this thread illustrate the truth of what Russell said
Who are Bertrand and Russell? Maslow disagrees and he does have some credibility on this topic (IMO).
Maslow claims the primary human motivators are (in order):
Physiological (so maybe pleasure he meant food, water, etc - that which you need to live)
Security and safety (money, health)
Social (friendships, to be liked, community)
Esteem (respect - how often do you hear this in contract negotiations)
Self-actualization (opportunity to reach your potential)
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clamored for the Giants to go after him in the last year or so.
Lol, exactly. I’m not going to call anyone out, but there were a few of the usual suspects suggesting we trade our two top 10’s this year, a first in 2023 and more to land him in a trade. And also cut a bunch of players given the fact the Giants had no cap room to sign him to some mega deal.
You mean the usual suspects that caveated their remarks that any pursuit of Watson would have to include some understanding of what the NFL was planning to do with any suspensions?
Those usual suspects?
What difference does it make? It would have been an awful decision to trade for him. Period. And I think he is an excellent QB.
I am somewhat surprised that they are talking about a year(they may be floating that timeframe to gain insight on public opinion). I was thinking a 4 to 6 game suspension was likely if no criminal charges were brought.
And, despite how Cleveland orchestrated their trade, it may not have been an awful decision for some teams to pursue Watson. Period also...
And, despite how Cleveland orchestrated their trade, it may not have been an awful decision for some teams to pursue Watson. Period also...
It was a bad trade for Cleveland. And they should have gotten rid of Mayfield 1st because he is now useless to them with almost no trade value.
And it would have been a terrible decision for the Giants to pursue him, as good as he is. There is no way his actions would be swept under the rug in NYC.
Let me use a BBI favorite to summarize the decision to pursue Watson, "let's wait and see"...
Let me use a BBI favorite to summarize the decision to pursue Watson, "let's wait and see"...
Cleveland gave up fairly close to what was speculated the Texans wanted...whatever team traded for him would have given similar numbers. Cleveland's mistake was not getting rid of Mayfield 1st.
I didn't say NYC has any moral high ground - they just have more vicious, holier than thou reporters than in places like Cleveland, Charlotte and Atlanta, for example.
So, you’re expecting Watson to get off?
That would rub me the wrong way and tug at my heart strings
You got to hand it to him to land a $250M guaranteed contract of the situation.
of course someone has to make it into a racial issue by comparing situations not similar.
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clamored for the Giants to go after him in the last year or so.
Lol, exactly. I’m not going to call anyone out, but there were a few of the usual suspects suggesting we trade our two top 10’s this year, a first in 2023 and more to land him in a trade. And also cut a bunch of players given the fact the Giants had no cap room to sign him to some mega deal.
You mean the usual suspects that caveated their remarks that any pursuit of Watson would have to include some understanding of what the NFL was planning to do with any suspensions?
Those usual suspects?
You mean the same usual suspects who think this made them looks smart- when- when the NFL wouldn’t give an answer to Miami when they almost had a trade lined up last year? The same usual suspects who think that the Giants would have had a different outcome?
Stupid always goes to the mat to defend stupid.
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In comment 15735021 section125 said:
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clamored for the Giants to go after him in the last year or so.
Lol, exactly. I’m not going to call anyone out, but there were a few of the usual suspects suggesting we trade our two top 10’s this year, a first in 2023 and more to land him in a trade. And also cut a bunch of players given the fact the Giants had no cap room to sign him to some mega deal.
You mean the usual suspects that caveated their remarks that any pursuit of Watson would have to include some understanding of what the NFL was planning to do with any suspensions?
Those usual suspects?
You mean the same usual suspects who think this made them looks smart- when- when the NFL wouldn’t give an answer to Miami when they almost had a trade lined up last year? The same usual suspects who think that the Giants would have had a different outcome?
Stupid always goes to the mat to defend stupid.
A year ago? Gee, I wonder why the NFL lollygagged around back then.
You seem to be on the mat…
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I still think there will be a happy ending with regards to this story.
So, you’re expecting Watson to get off?
Isn't that how this whole mess started?
Society just let athletes/public figures get away with it back then.
LT solicited underage prostitutes. Let's not throw stones.
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clamored for the Giants to go after him in the last year or so.
Lol, exactly. I’m not going to call anyone out, but there were a few of the usual suspects suggesting we trade our two top 10’s this year, a first in 2023 and more to land him in a trade. And also cut a bunch of players given the fact the Giants had no cap room to sign him to some mega deal.
You mean the usual suspects that caveated their remarks that any pursuit of Watson would have to include some understanding of what the NFL was planning to do with any suspensions?
Those usual suspects?
You mean the same usual suspects who think this made them looks smart- when- when the NFL wouldn’t give an answer to Miami when they almost had a trade lined up last year? The same usual suspects who think that the Giants would have had a different outcome?
Stupid always goes to the mat to defend stupid.
A year ago? Gee, I wonder why the NFL lollygagged around back then.
You seem to be on the mat…
Nice try to gaslight, but you’re still the one who bet on stupid and lost. You are just madly spinning trying to find a way to make yourself look like you had an inkling of what you were talking about. Now that it’s blown up in your face, you are left with insults, gaslighting and making up nonsense.
Society just let athletes/public figures get away with it back then.
LT solicited underage prostitutes. Let's not throw stones.
Not while he was playing though.
Besides it’s all about scheme, right?
Would be epic to see Garoppolo end up in Cleveland, even for a season.
Society just let athletes/public figures get away with it back then.
LT solicited underage prostitutes. Let's not throw stones.
I like to remember LT as someone who sent legal age prostitutes to opposing team hotel rooms.
link - ( New Window )
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"Good Ol Days".
Society just let athletes/public figures get away with it back then.
LT solicited underage prostitutes. Let's not throw stones.
Not while he was playing though.
Rrriiiiigggghhhhtttt.....
Jersey owner?