I wouldn’t say Exile is over rated but it was released in 1972. It’s passing from grandpa rock to great grandpa rock. And there’s nothing wrong with being old but I guess maybe for some younger people (under 70?) it’s gonna maybe seem over rated.
Anyway, I like Tattoo You which I remember as one of the first cassette tapes I ever got when I was like - idk - 6 or 7? It’s a great tale! Ha!
I wouldn’t say Exile is over rated but it was released in 1972. It’s passing from grandpa rock to great grandpa rock. And there’s nothing wrong with being old but I guess maybe for some younger people (under 70?) it’s gonna maybe seem over rated.
Anyway, I like Tattoo You which I remember as one of the first cassette tapes I ever got when I was like - idk - 6 or 7? It’s a great tale! Ha!
Pete Townsend said "Rock is Dead" around 1975 or so...and he was basically correct.
I was 13 when Tatoo You came out,and my older friends who loved the stones all complained about it...but as I look back at was a better album then we gave it credit for.
But for me Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers are so much better than the others
Do yourself a service and put on some headphones and give them a listen...properly.
I guarantee results there!!!
Sticky Fingers, Let It Bleed and Exile - three in a row at the peak.
Same here with your rankings. I'd add that Some Girls was a great effort for a band moving into the later part of their career.
Some Girls has some great songs on it...the problem with comparing the early Stones albums with such great great songs on it...Satisfaction for example,those early albums had cover songs on them and make true comparisons difficult
Exile was a double album which should have been a single album.
I just cringe everytime I see it in some top 3 of All Time any artist Rock N Roll.list...as I don't even consider it top 3 or even 5 of THE STONES....
The Rolling Stones, 'Exile on Main Street'
Rolling Stones Records, 1972
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A dirty whirl of basement blues and punk boogie, the Rolling Stones’ 1972 double LP was, according to Keith Richards, “maybe the best thing we did.” Indeed, inside its deliberately dense squall — Richards’ and Mick Taylor’s dogfight riffing, the lusty jump of the Bill Wyman–Charlie Watts rhythm engine, Mick Jagger’s caged-animal bark and burned-soul croon — is the Stones’ greatest album and Jagger and Richards’ definitive songwriting statement of outlaw pride and dedication to grit and cold-morning redemption.
In the existential shuffle of “Tumbling Dice,” the exhausted country beauty of “Torn and Frayed,” and the whiskey-soaked church of “Shine a Light,” you literally hear the Stones in exile: working at Richards’ villa in the South of France, on the run from media censure, British drug police (Jagger and Richards had been busted and arrested before), and the U.K.’s then-onerous tax code. The music rattles with corrosive abandon but also swings with a clear purpose — unconditional survival — in “Rocks Off” and “All Down the Line.” As Richards explained, “The Stones don’t have a home anymore — hence the exile — but they can still keep it together. Whatever people throw at us, we can still duck, improvise, overcome.” Great example: Richards recorded his jubilant romp “Happy” with only producer Jimmy Miller on drums and sax man Bobby Keys, while waiting for the other Stones to turn up for work. Exile on Main Street is the band at its fighting best, armed with the blues, playing to win.
with Sticky Fingers #2, then Let It Bleed, followed by Beggars Banquet and Tattoo You. First off the bench would be Goats Head Soup, which I have always thought was a bit underrated.
will give you 12 different opinions on something like this.
Here's this guy's two cents.
In my younger years I was a big fan of the pre-1968 Rolling Stones. Once Brian Jones wasn't involved, I was never too interested. It reached a point in the 70s where they kind of became voodoo effigies of themselves.
Between the Buttons? Aftermath? 12 x 5? I wore those records out. Exile on Main Street? I don't think I've ever heard it all the way through.
The only Rolling Stones record I think I still own at this juncture is my old mono copy of Satanic Majesties that I bought from the $1 bin at the college town record store, back in the days when stereo = good and mono = bad. That one is cool as hell, but I can't remember the last time I played it.
The Rolling Stones, 'Exile on Main Street'
Rolling Stones Records, 1972
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A dirty whirl of basement blues and punk boogie, the Rolling Stones’ 1972 double LP was, according to Keith Richards, “maybe the best thing we did.” Indeed, inside its deliberately dense squall — Richards’ and Mick Taylor’s dogfight riffing, the lusty jump of the Bill Wyman–Charlie Watts rhythm engine, Mick Jagger’s caged-animal bark and burned-soul croon — is the Stones’ greatest album and Jagger and Richards’ definitive songwriting statement of outlaw pride and dedication to grit and cold-morning redemption.
In the existential shuffle of “Tumbling Dice,” the exhausted country beauty of “Torn and Frayed,” and the whiskey-soaked church of “Shine a Light,” you literally hear the Stones in exile: working at Richards’ villa in the South of France, on the run from media censure, British drug police (Jagger and Richards had been busted and arrested before), and the U.K.’s then-onerous tax code. The music rattles with corrosive abandon but also swings with a clear purpose — unconditional survival — in “Rocks Off” and “All Down the Line.” As Richards explained, “The Stones don’t have a home anymore — hence the exile — but they can still keep it together. Whatever people throw at us, we can still duck, improvise, overcome.” Great example: Richards recorded his jubilant romp “Happy” with only producer Jimmy Miller on drums and sax man Bobby Keys, while waiting for the other Stones to turn up for work. Exile on Main Street is the band at its fighting best, armed with the blues, playing to win.
And their highest album - ( New Window )
Its funny how that Rolling Stone list changed over the years...I remember 20 plus years ago Ezile was #4 or something
There haven't been 10 good rock albums since that time and now it's #14???
It has a few great songs...the rest is crap
Maybe if it was a single album with only the best stuff I would feel better about it...but I think the press overrated it because of the mythology of it being made in France amidst all the debauchery that was going on as it was being made
A few steps below Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers....
will give you 12 different opinions on something like this.
Here's this guy's two cents.
In my younger years I was a big fan of the pre-1968 Rolling Stones. Once Brian Jones wasn't involved, I was never too interested. It reached a point in the 70s where they kind of became voodoo effigies of themselves.
Between the Buttons? Aftermath? 12 x 5? I wore those records out. Exile on Main Street? I don't think I've ever heard it all the way through.
The only Rolling Stones record I think I still own at this juncture is my old mono copy of Satanic Majesties that I bought from the $1 bin at the college town record store, back in the days when stereo = good and mono = bad. That one is cool as hell, but I can't remember the last time I played it.
I was exactly the same!!!
Aren't you puzzled when you see Exile so high up on those charts???
I remember k rock playing the whole tattoo you album back in the 80 s. So it’s definitely up there since that was probably there last good album and the proceedings before my time. But exile is a good album.
And imo (any plenty of others, not exactly going on a limb) the greatest rock album ever, probably. It is not a singles album, so I get why some will have others higher. But the whole thing just oozes this chaotic energy. With the blend of blues, country - if you wanted to show an alien what American music in the mid-late 20th century was all about - just stick this on. A VERY sexual record.
will give you 12 different opinions on something like this.
Here's this guy's two cents.
In my younger years I was a big fan of the pre-1968 Rolling Stones. Once Brian Jones wasn't involved, I was never too interested. It reached a point in the 70s where they kind of became voodoo effigies of themselves.
Between the Buttons? Aftermath? 12 x 5? I wore those records out. Exile on Main Street? I don't think I've ever heard it all the way through.
The only Rolling Stones record I think I still own at this juncture is my old mono copy of Satanic Majesties that I bought from the $1 bin at the college town record store, back in the days when stereo = good and mono = bad. That one is cool as hell, but I can't remember the last time I played it.
Pretty much the case. There was always other bands that were better, more popular and overshadowed the Stones. No one was talking about Exile on Main Street or even the Rolling Stones in 1972.
God Bless them they stuck together all these years, continued to tour, re-invented themselves about 18 times and kept going.
but I would assume after Beggars Banquet (68), Let it Bleed (69) and Sticky Fingers (71) that it would have been considered a bit of a disappointment? Partly due to those being three consecutive incredible rock and roll albums.
I wouldn’t say Exile is over rated but it was released in 1972. It’s passing from grandpa rock to great grandpa rock. And there’s nothing wrong with being old but I guess maybe for some younger people (under 70?) it’s gonna maybe seem over rated.
Anyway, I like Tattoo You which I remember as one of the first cassette tapes I ever got when I was like - idk - 6 or 7? It’s a great tale! Ha!
Pete Townsend said "Rock is Dead" around 1975 or so...and he was basically correct.
Is this based on a quote from Pete or are you referring to his song Long Live Rock?
Long Live Rock (Rock is Dead) was recorded in 1972. Pete may have written the lyrics in '71.
The lyrics are "rock is dead, they say. Long live rock". So, Pete wasn't saying he thought rock is dead (he wrote - "they say") and he wrote those lyrics years before it seemed like rock really might've been dead (late 70s).
I agree and can you imagine if they weren't limited to the number of songs that could fit on vinyl and were able to fit Pure And Easy and Let's See Action on the album (two of my favorites that were written for the Lifehouse album (that was never made), but were left off Who's Next due to space)?
I could caucus with idea as well. Who’s Next is a outstanding from the drop of the needle to the very end. There’s isn’t a weak note on the record. Every member of that band was massively talented. The song writing, the music, the engineering and production are all A+. As well, all music is derivative of what’s come before, but unlike a lot of the Stones records already noted, Who’s Next isn’t overtly ripping anything or anyone off. I’m not sure how it happened but The Who seem to have faded in appreciation. But they were an unrivaled rock band, every bit as talented as The Rolling Stones. The Who wasn’t anywhere near as popular or as prolific or as enduring, but as musicians making making rock n roll they were probably a great distance better than the Stones.
I just saw The Who back in May (for the 10th time). Fantastic show. Glad Pete and Roger didn't die before they got old. And Zak Starkey (Ringo's son) is an animal on drums. His hands/arms are just a blur. Can't even believe how he can do it for 2+ hours.
Here's a pic of young Zak with his Godfather Keith (the story goes Ringo didn't want Zak pursuing a career in music and wouldn't buy him a drum kit. Keith said f*ck that and bought Zak his first drum kit):
Sorry if I'm millering a Stones thread with The Who.
Beggers banquet than sticky fingers.
I would thinks it's top 5.
I'm with you. Let it Bleed just barely edges out Beggar's Banquet for number 1 with Sticky Fingers at number 3 a couple or three lengths back. These are the three that have most of my favorites from the Stones.
I wouldn’t say Exile is over rated but it was released in 1972. It’s passing from grandpa rock to great grandpa rock. And there’s nothing wrong with being old but I guess maybe for some younger people (under 70?) it’s gonna maybe seem over rated.
Anyway, I like Tattoo You which I remember as one of the first cassette tapes I ever got when I was like - idk - 6 or 7? It’s a great tale! Ha!
Pete Townsend said "Rock is Dead" around 1975 or so...and he was basically correct.
Is this based on a quote from Pete or are you referring to his song Long Live Rock?
Long Live Rock (Rock is Dead) was recorded in 1972. Pete may have written the lyrics in '71.
The lyrics are "rock is dead, they say. Long live rock". So, Pete wasn't saying he thought rock is dead (he wrote - "they say") and he wrote those lyrics years before it seemed like rock really might've been dead (late 70s).
Odds and Sods came out in '74...so I apologize for the date
More importantly Pete wrote mostly about what he saw and heard from us the fan....so maybe we were complaining about the direction Rock was going in 1972......
I just saw The Who back in May (for the 10th time). Fantastic show. Glad Pete and Roger didn't die before they got old. And Zak Starkey (Ringo's son) is an animal on drums. His hands/arms are just a blur. Can't even believe how he can do it for 2+ hours.
Here's a pic of young Zak with his Godfather Keith (the story goes Ringo didn't want Zak pursuing a career in music and wouldn't buy him a drum kit. Keith said f*ck that and bought Zak his first drum kit):
Sorry if I'm millering a Stones thread with The Who.
Please don't apologize,thanks for posting this picture....it's fucking priceless!!!
Who's Next in in my top 5 of all time Rock n Roll albums
I’m with you. Exile must be one of the most overrated albums in rock.
I actually don’t think the Stones’ music is aging well. It sounds dated and over simple compared to some other bands from that era. I think “Shattered” is one notable exception. But a song like “Honky tonk woman”? Ooof. Today I’m puzzled that it was ever a hit.
I’m with you. Exile must be one of the most overrated albums in rock.
I actually don’t think the Stones’ music is aging well. It sounds dated and over simple compared to some other bands from that era. I think “Shattered” is one notable exception. But a song like “Honky tonk woman”? Ooof. Today I’m puzzled that it was ever a hit.
came out when I was 11 and 12. Bought both as some of my first purchases. I think I may have played those 2 albums more than any others during my youth. Both classics.
I’m with you. Exile must be one of the most overrated albums in rock.
I actually don’t think the Stones’ music is aging well. It sounds dated and over simple compared to some other bands from that era. I think “Shattered” is one notable exception. But a song like “Honky tonk woman”? Ooof. Today I’m puzzled that it was ever a hit.
Two of my favorite Stones songs happen to be on Exile (Tumbling Dice and Happy), but i always felt the rest of the album was just ok and I often wondered what I was missing (when some list would have it ranked really high, even say it was best rock album of all time).
As far as their music not aging well, i can't speak for anyone else, but it hasn't aged well for me personally. The Stones were never my favorite but I liked them a lot more when i was younger. Over the years I got to the point that I don't care for Mick's voice. I actually like Richard's better, even Ron Wood's. Maybe im crazy.
I’m with you. Exile must be one of the most overrated albums in rock.
I actually don’t think the Stones’ music is aging well. It sounds dated and over simple compared to some other bands from that era. I think “Shattered” is one notable exception. But a song like “Honky tonk woman”? Ooof. Today I’m puzzled that it was ever a hit.
Two of my favorite Stones songs happen to be on Exile (Tumbling Dice and Happy), but i always felt the rest of the album was just ok and I often wondered what I was missing (when some list would have it ranked really high, even say it was best rock album of all time).
As far as their music not aging well, i can't speak for anyone else, but it hasn't aged well for me personally. The Stones were never my favorite but I liked them a lot more when i was younger. Over the years I got to the point that I don't care for Mick's voice. I actually like Richard's better, even Ron Wood's. Maybe im crazy.
I agree with the first paragraph 1000%...
I think you should give Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers a re listen closely...
There are a few duds in there but its mostly great riff trading back beat with micks great vocals...
I got Sticky Fingers on the Point Pleasant Boardwalk
Spinning wheel record shop. Had a hot streak betting on the peace sign. Got Dave Mason’s Alone Together in its original psychedelic plastic pressing as well. I think Aqualung as well.
Good times.
RE: I got Sticky Fingers on the Point Pleasant Boardwalk
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Spinning wheel record shop. Had a hot streak betting on the peace sign. Got Dave Mason’s Alone Together in its original psychedelic plastic pressing as well. I think Aqualung as well.
(after their first 4 years "Satisfaction", "Ruby Tuesday", "Lets Spend the Night Together", etc ...) and they called it in 75-76?
they would still be in the RnR HOF (IMO).
I will let others decide which albums belong in what position but, if there was a Mt Rushmore for Stones' albums - I think it belongs there. I think I remember Jagger saying when it first came out it was panned by the critics (when the Stones re-released a remixed version for it's 30th anniversary? - he was giving interviews regarding "Exile ..) - but seems to have gotten better with time - in the eyes ears of those same critics.
Might have been a "stronger" statement as a single album? IDK.
I think Exile on Main St., is the greatest rock ‘n roll album
of all time. Now I’m old, 67, but for garage band, can’t stop movin’ your feet, kick ass music, for me, it can’t be beat. Even the slower bluesier stuff like “Sweet Virginia”, stinks of whiskey, bong juice, and good times.
“Rip this Joint”, can make a corpse get up and dance. “Tumbilin’ Dice” and Keith ‘s , “Happy “, c’mon, what’s not to love.
After Exile, I’ll take Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, and “ Get your Ya Yas Out”.
To each their own.
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In comment 15736368 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Spinning wheel record shop. Had a hot streak betting on the peace sign. Got Dave Mason’s Alone Together in its original psychedelic plastic pressing as well. I think Aqualung as well.
Good times.
Betting on the peace sign??
the peace sign was one of the symbols on the wheel.
I would thinks it's top 5.
Anyway, I like Tattoo You which I remember as one of the first cassette tapes I ever got when I was like - idk - 6 or 7? It’s a great tale! Ha!
Same here with your rankings. I'd add that Some Girls was a great effort for a band moving into the later part of their career.
Anyway, I like Tattoo You which I remember as one of the first cassette tapes I ever got when I was like - idk - 6 or 7? It’s a great tale! Ha!
Pete Townsend said "Rock is Dead" around 1975 or so...and he was basically correct.
I was 13 when Tatoo You came out,and my older friends who loved the stones all complained about it...but as I look back at was a better album then we gave it credit for.
But for me Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers are so much better than the others
Do yourself a service and put on some headphones and give them a listen...properly.
I guarantee results there!!!
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Sticky Fingers, Let It Bleed and Exile - three in a row at the peak.
Same here with your rankings. I'd add that Some Girls was a great effort for a band moving into the later part of their career.
Some Girls has some great songs on it...the problem with comparing the early Stones albums with such great great songs on it...Satisfaction for example,those early albums had cover songs on them and make true comparisons difficult
Exile was a double album which should have been a single album.
I just cringe everytime I see it in some top 3 of All Time any artist Rock N Roll.list...as I don't even consider it top 3 or even 5 of THE STONES....
Rolling Stones Records, 1972
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A dirty whirl of basement blues and punk boogie, the Rolling Stones’ 1972 double LP was, according to Keith Richards, “maybe the best thing we did.” Indeed, inside its deliberately dense squall — Richards’ and Mick Taylor’s dogfight riffing, the lusty jump of the Bill Wyman–Charlie Watts rhythm engine, Mick Jagger’s caged-animal bark and burned-soul croon — is the Stones’ greatest album and Jagger and Richards’ definitive songwriting statement of outlaw pride and dedication to grit and cold-morning redemption.
In the existential shuffle of “Tumbling Dice,” the exhausted country beauty of “Torn and Frayed,” and the whiskey-soaked church of “Shine a Light,” you literally hear the Stones in exile: working at Richards’ villa in the South of France, on the run from media censure, British drug police (Jagger and Richards had been busted and arrested before), and the U.K.’s then-onerous tax code. The music rattles with corrosive abandon but also swings with a clear purpose — unconditional survival — in “Rocks Off” and “All Down the Line.” As Richards explained, “The Stones don’t have a home anymore — hence the exile — but they can still keep it together. Whatever people throw at us, we can still duck, improvise, overcome.” Great example: Richards recorded his jubilant romp “Happy” with only producer Jimmy Miller on drums and sax man Bobby Keys, while waiting for the other Stones to turn up for work. Exile on Main Street is the band at its fighting best, armed with the blues, playing to win.
And their highest album - ( New Window )
I agree. Same 3. Same order as you.
Here's this guy's two cents.
In my younger years I was a big fan of the pre-1968 Rolling Stones. Once Brian Jones wasn't involved, I was never too interested. It reached a point in the 70s where they kind of became voodoo effigies of themselves.
Between the Buttons? Aftermath? 12 x 5? I wore those records out. Exile on Main Street? I don't think I've ever heard it all the way through.
The only Rolling Stones record I think I still own at this juncture is my old mono copy of Satanic Majesties that I bought from the $1 bin at the college town record store, back in the days when stereo = good and mono = bad. That one is cool as hell, but I can't remember the last time I played it.
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The Rolling Stones, 'Exile on Main Street'
Rolling Stones Records, 1972
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A dirty whirl of basement blues and punk boogie, the Rolling Stones’ 1972 double LP was, according to Keith Richards, “maybe the best thing we did.” Indeed, inside its deliberately dense squall — Richards’ and Mick Taylor’s dogfight riffing, the lusty jump of the Bill Wyman–Charlie Watts rhythm engine, Mick Jagger’s caged-animal bark and burned-soul croon — is the Stones’ greatest album and Jagger and Richards’ definitive songwriting statement of outlaw pride and dedication to grit and cold-morning redemption.
In the existential shuffle of “Tumbling Dice,” the exhausted country beauty of “Torn and Frayed,” and the whiskey-soaked church of “Shine a Light,” you literally hear the Stones in exile: working at Richards’ villa in the South of France, on the run from media censure, British drug police (Jagger and Richards had been busted and arrested before), and the U.K.’s then-onerous tax code. The music rattles with corrosive abandon but also swings with a clear purpose — unconditional survival — in “Rocks Off” and “All Down the Line.” As Richards explained, “The Stones don’t have a home anymore — hence the exile — but they can still keep it together. Whatever people throw at us, we can still duck, improvise, overcome.” Great example: Richards recorded his jubilant romp “Happy” with only producer Jimmy Miller on drums and sax man Bobby Keys, while waiting for the other Stones to turn up for work. Exile on Main Street is the band at its fighting best, armed with the blues, playing to win.
And their highest album - ( New Window )
Its funny how that Rolling Stone list changed over the years...I remember 20 plus years ago Ezile was #4 or something
There haven't been 10 good rock albums since that time and now it's #14???
It has a few great songs...the rest is crap
Maybe if it was a single album with only the best stuff I would feel better about it...but I think the press overrated it because of the mythology of it being made in France amidst all the debauchery that was going on as it was being made
A few steps below Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers....
Sticky Fingers
Some Girls
Aftermath
Not including Get yer Ya Ya's Out which in reality is No. 1
Beggars Banquet
Let It Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Exile on Main Street
Here's this guy's two cents.
In my younger years I was a big fan of the pre-1968 Rolling Stones. Once Brian Jones wasn't involved, I was never too interested. It reached a point in the 70s where they kind of became voodoo effigies of themselves.
Between the Buttons? Aftermath? 12 x 5? I wore those records out. Exile on Main Street? I don't think I've ever heard it all the way through.
The only Rolling Stones record I think I still own at this juncture is my old mono copy of Satanic Majesties that I bought from the $1 bin at the college town record store, back in the days when stereo = good and mono = bad. That one is cool as hell, but I can't remember the last time I played it.
I was exactly the same!!!
Aren't you puzzled when you see Exile so high up on those charts???
Beggars Banquet
Let It Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Exile on Main Street
It is quite a run they had there!
I remember k rock playing the whole tattoo you album back in the 80 s. So it’s definitely up there since that was probably there last good album and the proceedings before my time. But exile is a good album.
Here's this guy's two cents.
In my younger years I was a big fan of the pre-1968 Rolling Stones. Once Brian Jones wasn't involved, I was never too interested. It reached a point in the 70s where they kind of became voodoo effigies of themselves.
Between the Buttons? Aftermath? 12 x 5? I wore those records out. Exile on Main Street? I don't think I've ever heard it all the way through.
The only Rolling Stones record I think I still own at this juncture is my old mono copy of Satanic Majesties that I bought from the $1 bin at the college town record store, back in the days when stereo = good and mono = bad. That one is cool as hell, but I can't remember the last time I played it.
God Bless them they stuck together all these years, continued to tour, re-invented themselves about 18 times and kept going.
2. Sticky Fingers
3. Between the Buttons
4. Let it Bleed
5. Aftermath
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I wouldn’t say Exile is over rated but it was released in 1972. It’s passing from grandpa rock to great grandpa rock. And there’s nothing wrong with being old but I guess maybe for some younger people (under 70?) it’s gonna maybe seem over rated.
Anyway, I like Tattoo You which I remember as one of the first cassette tapes I ever got when I was like - idk - 6 or 7? It’s a great tale! Ha!
Pete Townsend said "Rock is Dead" around 1975 or so...and he was basically correct.
Is this based on a quote from Pete or are you referring to his song Long Live Rock?
Long Live Rock (Rock is Dead) was recorded in 1972. Pete may have written the lyrics in '71.
The lyrics are "rock is dead, they say. Long live rock". So, Pete wasn't saying he thought rock is dead (he wrote - "they say") and he wrote those lyrics years before it seemed like rock really might've been dead (late 70s).
I agree and can you imagine if they weren't limited to the number of songs that could fit on vinyl and were able to fit Pure And Easy and Let's See Action on the album (two of my favorites that were written for the Lifehouse album (that was never made), but were left off Who's Next due to space)?
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But still not better than “Who’s Next”.
THE best Rock and Roll album ever - imo as well
I could caucus with idea as well. Who’s Next is a outstanding from the drop of the needle to the very end. There’s isn’t a weak note on the record. Every member of that band was massively talented. The song writing, the music, the engineering and production are all A+. As well, all music is derivative of what’s come before, but unlike a lot of the Stones records already noted, Who’s Next isn’t overtly ripping anything or anyone off. I’m not sure how it happened but The Who seem to have faded in appreciation. But they were an unrivaled rock band, every bit as talented as The Rolling Stones. The Who wasn’t anywhere near as popular or as prolific or as enduring, but as musicians making making rock n roll they were probably a great distance better than the Stones.
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But still not better than “Who’s Next”.
THE best Rock and Roll album ever - imo as well
Agree.
I just saw The Who back in May (for the 10th time). Fantastic show. Glad Pete and Roger didn't die before they got old. And Zak Starkey (Ringo's son) is an animal on drums. His hands/arms are just a blur. Can't even believe how he can do it for 2+ hours.
Here's a pic of young Zak with his Godfather Keith (the story goes Ringo didn't want Zak pursuing a career in music and wouldn't buy him a drum kit. Keith said f*ck that and bought Zak his first drum kit):
Sorry if I'm millering a Stones thread with The Who.
I would thinks it's top 5.
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I wouldn’t say Exile is over rated but it was released in 1972. It’s passing from grandpa rock to great grandpa rock. And there’s nothing wrong with being old but I guess maybe for some younger people (under 70?) it’s gonna maybe seem over rated.
Anyway, I like Tattoo You which I remember as one of the first cassette tapes I ever got when I was like - idk - 6 or 7? It’s a great tale! Ha!
Pete Townsend said "Rock is Dead" around 1975 or so...and he was basically correct.
Is this based on a quote from Pete or are you referring to his song Long Live Rock?
Long Live Rock (Rock is Dead) was recorded in 1972. Pete may have written the lyrics in '71.
The lyrics are "rock is dead, they say. Long live rock". So, Pete wasn't saying he thought rock is dead (he wrote - "they say") and he wrote those lyrics years before it seemed like rock really might've been dead (late 70s).
Odds and Sods came out in '74...so I apologize for the date
More importantly Pete wrote mostly about what he saw and heard from us the fan....so maybe we were complaining about the direction Rock was going in 1972......
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But still not better than “Who’s Next”.
THE best Rock and Roll album ever - imo as well
Agree.
I just saw The Who back in May (for the 10th time). Fantastic show. Glad Pete and Roger didn't die before they got old. And Zak Starkey (Ringo's son) is an animal on drums. His hands/arms are just a blur. Can't even believe how he can do it for 2+ hours.
Here's a pic of young Zak with his Godfather Keith (the story goes Ringo didn't want Zak pursuing a career in music and wouldn't buy him a drum kit. Keith said f*ck that and bought Zak his first drum kit):
Sorry if I'm millering a Stones thread with The Who.
Please don't apologize,thanks for posting this picture....it's fucking priceless!!!
Who's Next in in my top 5 of all time Rock n Roll albums
I actually don’t think the Stones’ music is aging well. It sounds dated and over simple compared to some other bands from that era. I think “Shattered” is one notable exception. But a song like “Honky tonk woman”? Ooof. Today I’m puzzled that it was ever a hit.
That shot is priceless!!He looks more like Ringo everyday
I actually don’t think the Stones’ music is aging well. It sounds dated and over simple compared to some other bands from that era. I think “Shattered” is one notable exception. But a song like “Honky tonk woman”? Ooof. Today I’m puzzled that it was ever a hit.
It has puzzled me for decades....bizzare!!
I actually don’t think the Stones’ music is aging well. It sounds dated and over simple compared to some other bands from that era. I think “Shattered” is one notable exception. But a song like “Honky tonk woman”? Ooof. Today I’m puzzled that it was ever a hit.
Two of my favorite Stones songs happen to be on Exile (Tumbling Dice and Happy), but i always felt the rest of the album was just ok and I often wondered what I was missing (when some list would have it ranked really high, even say it was best rock album of all time).
As far as their music not aging well, i can't speak for anyone else, but it hasn't aged well for me personally. The Stones were never my favorite but I liked them a lot more when i was younger. Over the years I got to the point that I don't care for Mick's voice. I actually like Richard's better, even Ron Wood's. Maybe im crazy.
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I’m with you. Exile must be one of the most overrated albums in rock.
I actually don’t think the Stones’ music is aging well. It sounds dated and over simple compared to some other bands from that era. I think “Shattered” is one notable exception. But a song like “Honky tonk woman”? Ooof. Today I’m puzzled that it was ever a hit.
Two of my favorite Stones songs happen to be on Exile (Tumbling Dice and Happy), but i always felt the rest of the album was just ok and I often wondered what I was missing (when some list would have it ranked really high, even say it was best rock album of all time).
As far as their music not aging well, i can't speak for anyone else, but it hasn't aged well for me personally. The Stones were never my favorite but I liked them a lot more when i was younger. Over the years I got to the point that I don't care for Mick's voice. I actually like Richard's better, even Ron Wood's. Maybe im crazy.
I agree with the first paragraph 1000%...
I think you should give Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers a re listen closely...
There are a few duds in there but its mostly great riff trading back beat with micks great vocals...
Good times.
Good times.
Betting on the peace sign??
Beggars Banquet
Sticky Fingers and
Exile on Main Street -
(after their first 4 years "Satisfaction", "Ruby Tuesday", "Lets Spend the Night Together", etc ...) and they called it in 75-76?
they would still be in the RnR HOF (IMO).
I will let others decide which albums belong in what position but, if there was a Mt Rushmore for Stones' albums - I think it belongs there. I think I remember Jagger saying when it first came out it was panned by the critics (when the Stones re-released a remixed version for it's 30th anniversary? - he was giving interviews regarding "Exile ..) - but seems to have gotten better with time - in the eyes ears of those same critics.
Might have been a "stronger" statement as a single album? IDK.
“Rip this Joint”, can make a corpse get up and dance. “Tumbilin’ Dice” and Keith ‘s , “Happy “, c’mon, what’s not to love.
After Exile, I’ll take Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, and “ Get your Ya Yas Out”.
To each their own.
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Spinning wheel record shop. Had a hot streak betting on the peace sign. Got Dave Mason’s Alone Together in its original psychedelic plastic pressing as well. I think Aqualung as well.
Good times.
Betting on the peace sign??