AAA
Vientos 2-4, BB, K
Dom 0-4, BB, K
Ritter 1-4, BB, K
Palka 1-3
Meyer 0-3, BB, K
Montes de Oca 1 inning 1 hit 2 runs 2 walks 0 k's
AA
Alvarez 1-5, HR, K (yes, another HR for The Troll)
Young 2-5, 3 k's
Baty 1-4
Mauricio 1-4, BB, K, SB, CS
McIIwain 1-4, HR, 2 k's (2nd in the organization in wRC+ amongst player with at least 150 PA's)
Cortes 1-5, K
Nunez 1 inning 1 hit 1 run 2 walks 2 k's
BK
Newton 0-4, 2 k's
Jordan 1-2
Schwartz 2-3, BB, K, SB
St. Lucie
Ramirez 0-3, BB, K, SB
Consuegra 1-3, BB, K, CS
Tillien 0-3, BB
Lugo 0-3, BB, 2 k's
ODLS 1-4, K
Dominguez 1-3, BB, K
Ventura 2.1 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 6 k's (rehab)
David .1 innings 0 hits 2 runs 2 walks 0 k's (his numbers are so unbelievably bad, I can't believe they haven't sent him to the IL to work on his command, this can't be particularly productive... 11.2 innings 24 walks)
Gomez 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 2 k's (One to watch)
Some notes-Andinson Ferrer to begin his career 7.1 innings 5 walks but 17 k's
Grant Hartwig 25.2 innings 22 hits 8 walks 39 k's
HR's have killed him (11 over 49 innings) but Alex Valverde might be worth monitoring as a sleeper. 12.86 K/9 (70 k's leads the organization), 3.89 xFIP, .387 BABIP, relatively young (26 in September)
William Lugo 6'3 215, only 20 years old, (signed thanks to IFA money received for Familia) 119 wRC+, good walk rate... if he grows into some more power....
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Max Scherzer will pitch for Binghamton tomorrow, throwing to James McCann, in a rehab start.
well that's some very good news.
Alonso age 23 season: 132 games and 36 HR
Alonso age 23 season: 132 games and 36 HR
the mets have had a great decade of homegrown prospects and alvarez is a level above all of them. freakishly exciting prospect.
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Alvarez in age 19 and 20 seasons: 155 games and 39 HR
Alonso age 23 season: 132 games and 36 HR
the mets have had a great decade of homegrown prospects and alvarez is a level above all of them. freakishly exciting prospect.
I was hoping Vientos would be able to find a position he could play adequately, so that Alvarez could DH and be in the lineup when not catching, and Vientos could be in the lineup as well.
Nope, which is disappointing.
Vientos has played mostly 3b this year so it wouldn't surprise me to see him get a game or 2 per week there whenever he reaches the big leagues. Or about what they are giving JDD. But in the future it's not inconceivable they give him 1 day a week at first and 1 day a week at 3b to free up some DH time for Alonso and Alvarez.
just for ease of counting, let's say there are 6 games in a week:
Alonso = 5 at 1b, 1 at DH
Alvarez = 3 at C, 2 at DH
Vientos = 3 at DH, 1 at 1b, 1 at 3b
over a 26 week season alonso would play 156 games with the other 2 playing 130 games.
of course there's 0 chance that would hold up all year but that's baseball, there will be injuries and players will rotate. Some weeks maybe Alvarez gets extra games at C or Vientos an extended run at 3b.
what is the point of this? I wouldn't be surprised if there are tears after every game 7 loss at any age.
If there was a DH when Piazza played is that what he would have done?
Sarmiento 1-1 with his 6th steal, .995 OPS with 6 steals over his first 30 pro ab's
Franklin Gomez (16 years old) 2 perfect innings 3 k's
If there was a DH when Piazza played is that what he would have done?
imo yes. the most games piazza ever played as a met were 141. his 4 prime years were basically between 135 and 141.
i dont know what the exact right balance would have been but i'd guess if they had DH it would have been no more than 100 catching / 60 DH. but since he wasn't the greatest defensive maybe they'd have done 80 / 80, but that probably depends on how good of a backup catcher they could find.
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Howard Bryant, after losing game 7 to Atl in 1999, members of the Mets cried in the clubhouse. Don't know how common that is but that was my favorite Mets team.
what is the point of this? I wouldn't be surprised if there are tears after every game 7 loss at any age.
What is the point of this? He wasn't knocking the Mets but he reported it was unusual based on his experience as a writer in the clubhouse after games in contrast to some players (namely Henderson/Bonilla playing cards).
Yeah, Vientos is looking like a JD Davis type defensively. Mets will have to pick their spots. Obviously, in the playoffs, Alvarez will be catching full-time and Vientos at DH, unless he shows more defensively.
I was always against the universal DH, but selfishly glad the Mets have it with the personnel they have.
Alvarez played 84 last year and that was his most. 56 so far this year so on pace for let's say 120-130?
on a competitive roster like this one there's no reason to throw them into the deep end.
If I recall correctly, his strength was defense as well.
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Sarmiento adds another hit. 2-2. 4 multi-hit games over his first 8+ played (6 walks as well) signed for a $700,000 bonus this past January
If I recall correctly, his strength was defense as well.
He's (again 16 and 17 year olds and me mostly reading reports or in some cases speaking to people) not regarded as having any standout tools but a sum of parts type who is projectable (already 6'2 when they signed him).
Vientos has played mostly 3b this year so it wouldn't surprise me to see him get a game or 2 per week there whenever he reaches the big leagues. Or about what they are giving JDD. But in the future it's not inconceivable they give him 1 day a week at first and 1 day a week at 3b to free up some DH time for Alonso and Alvarez.
just for ease of counting, let's say there are 6 games in a week:
Alonso = 5 at 1b, 1 at DH
Alvarez = 3 at C, 2 at DH
Vientos = 3 at DH, 1 at 1b, 1 at 3b
over a 26 week season alonso would play 156 games with the other 2 playing 130 games.
of course there's 0 chance that would hold up all year but that's baseball, there will be injuries and players will rotate. Some weeks maybe Alvarez gets extra games at C or Vientos an extended run at 3b.
Jorge Rodriguez has 8 k's through 3 innings for DSL Mets 2 #Mets
Vientos and Alvarez as hitters are both probably in the top handful of prospects AA+. The main thing that sets Alvarez apart is that he plays C and apparently has tools to stick there.
here's the last 129 games for Vientos at AA/AAA:
.270 / .348 / .550
36 homers
26 2b/3b
94 rbis
in his final season in the minors Alonso hit 36 homers in 132 games with a .285 BA but a chunk of that was vegas/pcl. And as KD mentioned he was a full year older at 23. unless a CY level starter with control is coming back im not giving up a prospect with Vientos' upside this close to the big leagues. it's high enough that even if he's only a DH it will play.
so is palka not going to be activated?
or did they choose 2 hitters not hitting as well as vientos in the last month over him?
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Howard Bryant, after losing game 7 to Atl in 1999, members of the Mets cried in the clubhouse. Don't know how common that is but that was my favorite Mets team.
what is the point of this? I wouldn't be surprised if there are tears after every game 7 loss at any age.
What is the point of this? He wasn't knocking the Mets but he reported it was unusual based on his experience as a writer in the clubhouse after games in contrast to some players (namely Henderson/Bonilla playing cards).
There was no Game 7. The Mets lost in 6
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recalled, Lugo on paternity leave
so is palka not going to be activated?
or did they choose 2 hitters not hitting as well as vientos in the last month over him?
Palka isn't on the 40 man, Dom is.
Not sure who this is pitching, the feed doesn't list names today and #26 isn't listed on the DSL2 roster **Visually only** #26 reminds me of Johan. FB up to 90, slider with some decent break but some of have been NOWHERE near the zone (to the back stop twice)
weird that it seems they are going out of their way to note promote vientos. im sure they have their reasons but i personally don't get it. vientos performance has been better than both and the entire point with dom was getting him every day action. probably en route to facilitating a trade.
im sure there's some rationale like "they want to see him lay off the outside breaking ball" or whatever but at the end of the day he has almost as many homers in the last year as Dom has in 400+ MLB games with a higher walk rate and BA. he's having the better season and there's not a stat i see that doesn't indicate higher upside to '95 or walk'. if dom was coming up to play 1b every day it would be a different story but given this is likely for DH at bats i dont get it.
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Vientos is 9th in wRC+ (remember, his first month was horrendous) and 3rd in ISO)
Mauricio 15th and 5th
Alvarez 1st and 1st
Vientos and Alvarez as hitters are both probably in the top handful of prospects AA+. The main thing that sets Alvarez apart is that he plays C and apparently has tools to stick there.
here's the last 129 games for Vientos at AA/AAA:
.270 / .348 / .550
36 homers
26 2b/3b
94 rbis
in his final season in the minors Alonso hit 36 homers in 132 games with a .285 BA but a chunk of that was vegas/pcl. And as KD mentioned he was a full year older at 23. unless a CY level starter with control is coming back im not giving up a prospect with Vientos' upside this close to the big leagues. it's high enough that even if he's only a DH it will play.
Agreed 100%. I'd go so far to say, if I was in trade talks with a team for a premium player, and they gave me an option of dealing Vientos or Baty, I'd have a tough time deciding.
Agreed 100%. I'd go so far to say, if I was in trade talks with a team for a premium player, and they gave me an option of dealing Vientos or Baty, I'd have a tough time deciding.
that's why mauricio is likely the odd man out, not that he's much easier to trade. and PCA when injured last year.
and ramirez is getting close to the same level of "hurt" if they dealt him too.
all why it's so annoying they didn't spend on a back end BP option in the offseason and now need to trade for one.
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Agreed 100%. I'd go so far to say, if I was in trade talks with a team for a premium player, and they gave me an option of dealing Vientos or Baty, I'd have a tough time deciding.
that's why mauricio is likely the odd man out, not that he's much easier to trade. and PCA when injured last year.
and ramirez is getting close to the same level of "hurt" if they dealt him too.
all why it's so annoying they didn't spend on a back end BP option in the offseason and now need to trade for one.
At least Mauricio could possibly play the OF.
I'm disappointed by Vientos looking like he may be mostly a DH. There are other reasons besides having Alvarez catching more. Look at the Phillies when Harper couldn't play the field. They had to have Schwarber playing out there.
That said, Vientos is not a player to trade either. His trade value would be down because he looks like a primarily DH player, and he's a player who if he reaches his potential has a bat that could rival Alonso's