Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn, clearing way for the seven-time All-Star to consider the open market. Lakers and Knicks expected to emerge among potential suitors.
Would be interested in seeing he and LeBron reunite in LA. As a Knicks fan this would be a horrific move and I highly doubt it's even remotely possible.
If he wasn't on the court to partner with KD you really think he'd give it 100% on a mediocre Knicks team? Adding him torpedoes the youth movement or any player development.
Kyrie is toxic. Not the kind of guy you want to bring into MSG at this time.
KD and Westbrook
Lebron has to be relevant so I’m sure he will get what he wants.
If he wasn't on the court to partner with KD you really think he'd give it 100% on a mediocre Knicks team? Adding him torpedoes the youth movement or any player development.
Kyrie is toxic. Not the kind of guy you want to bring into MSG at this time.
no you wouldnt knicks have 40 million in exprirings that can easily match
If he wasn't on the court to partner with KD you really think he'd give it 100% on a mediocre Knicks team? Adding him torpedoes the youth movement or any player development.
Kyrie is toxic. Not the kind of guy you want to bring into MSG at this time.
He wasnt on the court because of the vaccine mandates, it wasnt because he didnt want to be on the court..
How does Kyrie torpedoe the youth? you dont think they would be better playing with a star like Kyrie?
Really? Yes let’s pair him with Dolan, bring back Isiah Thomas and hire Terrell Owens as head of PR
KD and Westbrook
Lebron has to be relevant so I’m sure he will get what he wants.
Westbrook and Simmons would be the worst “star” fit in league history 😂
Lol at the Lakers being involved in this.
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It’s not a horrific move at all. It could be a franchise (Knicks) altering move if anything. Sure it’s a financial risk. Ok. And?
Really? Yes let’s pair him with Dolan, bring back Isiah Thomas and hire Terrell Owens as head of PR
Kyrie is the weirdest dude I have even seen in sports for 40 years. His talent is tantalizing. But he is a weird head case. Think about it, KD doesn’t even want him on the team anymore as KI killed his legacy.
Lol at the Lakers being involved in this.
Agreed, it really hit Durant's legacy potential IMO. Just wasting prime years for him (turning 34 before the upcoming season).
100% agree. If he chose Butler instead of Kyrie he'd have at least 1 ring.
Lol at the Lakers being involved in this.
It's one of the great NBA "what-ifs" given that by all accounts Durant chose the Nets because of Kyrie. Where does he go if Kyrie wasn't a factor and who goes with him?
I know those players aren’t superstars but man they could have filled what Durant needed. Allen is an all star to boot.
Trading up for Ivey
Trading for Brogdan
Drafting a pg
You name it
I think his contract will be tradable down the road if he doesn't work out.
If he plays 60+ games he makes the Knicks a playoff team and might attract other FA.
Stunned that someone actually said Kyrie and leadership role in the same sentence.
If the Nets arent willing to gice him the max its because Kd told them hr is ok if you let Kyrie walk
fight for kyrie
there's no way to do both if kyrie doesn't change, and today's leak makes it pretty clear kyrie hasn't changed.
hard to envision a more unreliable pro athlete than kyrie. honestly can't think of one.
and how about when he went awol for a few games last year?
or the playoff injuries for cle, bos, and bklyn?
or how he played against boston in the sweep, when he admitted he was fatigued, perhaps in part bc he was fasting?
you want to absolve him for the mandate go ahead but even with that off the table i dont think you could name a more unreliable pro athlete ever.
It absolutely is, but Knicks fans are pretty given to living in What Ifs.
that's 100% what he's trying to do but in doing so he's doing exactly what makes the nets not want him back in the first place.
i can only think of a handful of people so good at making their critics right as often as kyrie.
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that NY had that asinine mandate. To say the season was Kyries fault is unfair.
and how about when he went awol for a few games last year?
or the playoff injuries for cle, bos, and bklyn?
or how he played against boston in the sweep, when he admitted he was fatigued, perhaps in part bc he was fasting?
you want to absolve him for the mandate go ahead but even with that off the table i dont think you could name a more unreliable pro athlete ever.
Can't really argue that.
Of course thats whats happening, he is putting it out there to the Nets to say hey i am not coming back without a full max deal and hey Lakers, Clips or Knicks want me..
That was what, 5 years ago and with the best player in the league? A lot has changed since then including what looks to be a lack of commitment to playing. At 30+ does he magically start putting basketball above everything?
As a FA signing I guess the risk is minimal but I wouldn’t put any amount of money on it.
It absolutely is. And Kyrie has done absolutely nothing to gouge every dime out of the Nets. In fact, he’s done the opposite. But the Nets owner is weak minded and obsessed with the Nets being “relevant”. They will fold like cheap suits and give Kyrie everything he wants. They sold their souls and now they simply cannot go back.
i think it's the accumulation of there always being something. last year he went awol, then he got hurt vs milwaukee, then the vax and fight with harden, then after the mandate lifted he slumped, then against boston he got tired while he was fasting.
he's 30 now. durability and conditioning don't get easier if your heart isn't in it. the only thing crazier than giving him a max deal would be giving harden a max deal.
That contract will be an albatross before the signature is dry. Harden is 33 this summer, isn't exactly a dude who likes to keep himself in shape, & is known to like the nightlife.
It would be more fun to wait a few months so we can get his take on both Kyrie and Simmons. That conversation, if he were drunk and being completely honest, would be stuff of legend.
You've never heard of a player missing an entire season because they're afraid to shoot a basketball before?
Late in the pre-FA period a few years ago, it was rumored that the Knicks weren’t interested in Kyrie at all. Now we’re to believe that after witnessing Kyrie’s nonsense this past season, that they want to sign him? I don’t believe it at all regardless of how bad the Knicks need a lead guard.
Lakers? Is that a joke, Lakers have no picks and westbrook contract and no good young players.
For Knicks we know they won’t want Randle so I’m offering Obi, Grimes, Rokas and expiring, Noel, Kemba and they would have to take Fournier for money matching purposes with 3 first rounders. They get 2 nice young players and 3 first rounders plus rokas. In this scenario Knicks are resigning Mitch and rolling with:
IQ
Beal
RJ
Randle
Mitch
Rose
Mcbride
Burks
Reddish
Sims
MLE
I would love for it to be Randle over Obi, but it’s not realistic. This team isn’t winning a championship, but I would think they are a top 10 team in the league and they are competing. Beal is perfect compliment to RJ, if RJ, Mitch, Resdish and IQ take another step then a year or 2 from now this team can compete for the ring. I am not a big fan of Randle, but I also realize he is not as bad as we make him out to be and with Beal being a clear #1 over him, I think he can accept that vs RJ and I think him and RJ become co #2’s.
I also think there is huge upside potential for Reddish and IQ, the talent is there just a matter of they get there. If one of these guys hits, then the sky’s the limit for this team.
If this isn’t and option, then I’m offering Portland Randle, Burks, Reddish and Fournier with 2 future firsts and 2 future 2nds for #7, Bledsoe and nurkic expirings.
Knicks go into full young mode. Letting Mitch walk, drafting sochan and Duran or if 7 and 11 is enough to trade up and get Ivey and he is the guy they want them I’m doing that. Knicks will have a really good young core with lots of cap space moving ahead. I know the league doesn’t like bigs anymore, but Duran is super talented and actually could have a good offensive game and sochan could be a special player if the shot develops. Either way he is going to be a do it all type of player on both ends.
Those odds only have effect in the event Beal leaves the Wizards.
There are no odds offered on his staying in DC because it is extremely likely that he will and the house doesn't want to give away money.
The problem is can you trust Irving that one day he is not going to be like you know what i dont want to be here anymore. 1 day he is happy and then the next he is a distraction and doesnt want to be in the place he is in...
I dont think though he is unhappy in Brooklyn, i think the Nets dont want him anymore and this is their way of controlling the narrative around it..
I think he would be happy in NY and if all it took was Randle and Fournier and maybe a couple of 2nds, i would do it..
He elevates the team immediately and he makes Rjs life so much easier, Irving is a legit number 1 with the right guys around him..
If there is no returning to the Nets, the Nets need to figure out a trade before the 29th
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