Jake Fischer has a notebook coming out this morning and Bleacher Report is releasing some snippets..
Nets are offering Kyrie a shorter term incentive laden deal, expected to talk up until the 29th deadline..
Knicks are trying to clear 25 million to sign Brunson
Mitch deal is going to be 4 years somewhere between $40-50 mill.
Don’t buy the Brogdon rumors.
They’re still fairly confident they’ll get Brunson even if they add Ivey
Mitch deal is going to be 4 years somewhere between $40-50 mill.
Don’t buy the Brogdon rumors.
They’re still fairly confident they’ll get Brunson even if they add Ivey
Brunson would be a great fit next to Ivey..
Rather keep iq and give up another draft pick
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I'd be shocked if Chet, Smith Jr., & Paolo weren't the top 3, in some order.
Agreed i just dont know if Sacto is going to work with the Knicks..
They like the Knicks offer but they still are holding out for more, the Kings are content staying at 4 but also feel like they are going to get a great offer at the 11th hour..
Knicks are offering 11, both 23 picks and their 25th plus Grimes and Burks...Knicks have told them thats the best they can do..
Trades like that is what has made this team a decades-long joke.
Mitch deal is going to be 4 years somewhere between $40-50 mill.
Don’t buy the Brogdon rumors.
They’re still fairly confident they’ll get Brunson even if they add Ivey
Are the knicks looking to trade Randle ? Please say yes
I'd imagine landing Ivey would make them more aggressive in their pursuit of Brunson.It is a great pairing, and you might as well go all out.
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11, top 5 protected 23 and IQ at the moment.
Mitch deal is going to be 4 years somewhere between $40-50 mill.
Don’t buy the Brogdon rumors.
They’re still fairly confident they’ll get Brunson even if they add Ivey
Are the knicks looking to trade Randle ? Please say yes
Don’t see a trade market for Randle until after the draft but they still do want to
Trading for a rookie who they feel can be a star is the right move. If they are wrong they most likely won’t be around to make another big mistake. But, these are the types of swings they should be taking if they are giving up draft capital.
I'd imagine landing Ivey would make them more aggressive in their pursuit of Brunson.It is a great pairing, and you might as well go all out.
Getting the vibe they’re confident they’ll end up with both.
He probably does since his is with the Knicks organization, mine is coming from the Kings
Mavs 2023 1st rd pick
Knicks 2023 1st rd pick
Knicks 2025 1st rd pick - assuming this could eventually become 2 2nd rounders
Grimes
Burks
If they make this move Randle needs to go and let the kids play quickly. This really doesn't feel like a Rose type move unless he is final feeling the pressure to go big or go home.
My biggest concern is OBI. He played great at the end of the season and if Randle is still on the team next year he is going to end up playing 13 minutes a night again. Hopefully they are trading Randle but if for some reason they decide not to they need to sell high on OBI while his value is at highest instead of him being buried on the bench and becoming a depreciated asset .
Well that would be freaking awesome.
I have heard kings are confident they will get a deal for 4, now thats a general statement not necassarily with the Knicks...
Do you think from what you heard the Knicms are confident?
*steep
If they make this move Randle needs to go and let the kids play quickly. This really doesn't feel like a Rose type move unless he is final feeling the pressure to go big or go home.
The stretch where Randle played his best ball last year he was pushing the ball like crazy. I think he'd be happy to play at that pace. Thibs on the other hand...I think Randle has dominated the ball out of necessity the past few years when he's on the court because of the complete shit we've had at PG unless Rose is on the court and Rose mainly looks for his own shot. I think it might be interesting to see if Randle could mesh with them.
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From earlier: Knicks have talked to DET about potential move up in draft; Cam Reddish was one name that came up:
But I guess that's assuming the Kings stay put and go with Murray and Ivey drops to 5?
The Knicks would make the 11th pick first and then they coukd trade both 23rds
Draft night trades aren’t official until after the draft
We have talked about this before,if they can make it happen,it might be a better move.
Also says Brogdon will be traded any time between now and the start of the draft
Mitch deal is going to be 4 years somewhere between $40-50 mill.
Don’t buy the Brogdon rumors.
They’re still fairly confident they’ll get Brunson even if they add Ivey
Brunson-Ivey-RJ-Obi-Mitch
Rose-Deuce-Cam-Sims
That'd be interesting to see. Plus we'd probably be moving Randle, Fournier, and Noel for assets...
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I'd be shocked if Chet, Smith Jr., & Paolo weren't the top 3, in some order.
Agreed i just dont know if Sacto is going to work with the Knicks..
They like the Knicks offer but they still are holding out for more, the Kings are content staying at 4 but also feel like they are going to get a great offer at the 11th hour..
Knicks are offering 11, both 23 picks and their 25th plus Grimes and Burks...Knicks have told them thats the best they can do..
I seriously doubt that's enough. They'll want Obi and one of Cam or IQ as well as the picks.
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Is Randle and Thibs, Ivey is only successful quickly in a high pace offense like a young Westbrook.
If they make this move Randle needs to go and let the kids play quickly. This really doesn't feel like a Rose type move unless he is final feeling the pressure to go big or go home.
The stretch where Randle played his best ball last year he was pushing the ball like crazy. I think he'd be happy to play at that pace. Thibs on the other hand...I think Randle has dominated the ball out of necessity the past few years when he's on the court because of the complete shit we've had at PG unless Rose is on the court and Rose mainly looks for his own shot. I think it might be interesting to see if Randle could mesh with them.
Stu, Randle loves to handle the ball and play ISO the run and gun is left to the kids Rose was good at pushing the pace and increase the pace. I thinks thats why Thibs played them apart.
Obi would be great in that pace.
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Is Randle and Thibs, Ivey is only successful quickly in a high pace offense like a young Westbrook.
If they make this move Randle needs to go and let the kids play quickly. This really doesn't feel like a Rose type move unless he is final feeling the pressure to go big or go home.
The stretch where Randle played his best ball last year he was pushing the ball like crazy. I think he'd be happy to play at that pace. Thibs on the other hand...I think Randle has dominated the ball out of necessity the past few years when he's on the court because of the complete shit we've had at PG unless Rose is on the court and Rose mainly looks for his own shot. I think it might be interesting to see if Randle could mesh with them.
Stu, Randle loves to handle the ball and play ISO the run and gun is left to the kids Rose was good at pushing the pace and increase the pace. I thinks thats why Thibs played them apart.
Obi would be great in that pace.
I'm not saying he doesn't iso and dominate the ball a lot, though if you watched his 10 game or so hot streak he was pushing it a lot. I think he could play that pace if they don't trade him.
Mitch deal is going to be 4 years somewhere between $40-50 mill.
Don’t buy the Brogdon rumors.
They’re still fairly confident they’ll get Brunson even if they add Ivey
I’m surprised that Dallas’s 2023 1st isn’t also on the table. Sounds like Leon is opening conservative. That offer will beef up before the Kings clock runs out on draft night.
Man it would suck use assets to clear cap for July 1 an come up empty again in FA.
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Said Brunson is telling other Mavs he’s staying in Dallas
Man it would suck use assets to clear cap for July 1 an come up empty again in FA.
It's the Knicks way.
and Woj was on last night on espn said Knicks were specifically trying to clear space for Brunson..
Fischer went as far to say current and former Brunson teammates have been told it’s done deal
“It does still sound like Dallas is by far the leader in the clubhouse to retain [Jalen Brunson],” Fischer said. “I’ve even heard that he has told former teammates and current teammates that it’s basically like a done deal.”
I really can't come up with a Brogdon trade that wouldn't annoy me. Obviously Randle is a contract they may be looking to move, but at least Randle plays. And what's more likely? Randle shakes off whatever was bothering him last year and gets back to 80-90 percent of what he was in 20/21 - or Brogdon magically becomes durable in his 30s?
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