Jake Fischer has a notebook coming out this morning and Bleacher Report is releasing some snippets..
Nets are offering Kyrie a shorter term incentive laden deal, expected to talk up until the 29th deadline..
Knicks are trying to clear 25 million to sign Brunson
This FO hasnt really given me reasons to think they are going to do something dumb like give up 11 for Brogdon, so until it happens im not going to stress myself on it.
Obi and quickley need 30 minutes a night this season, no more 15 minute games
This FO hasnt really given me reasons to think they are going to do something dumb like give up 11 for Brogdon, so until it happens im not going to stress myself on it.
Sounds like 25 million starting salary so thats Burks, Noel and Kemba..
They can get to 40 by clearimg Rose with those guys
Let’s hope that rumor is untrue. Trading 11 for an average PG (yes, that’s better than what the Knicks currently have) would be crazy.
I’d sign for AJ Griffin right now. I think his offensive upside is tremendous.
there was probably a limit on what OKC was willing to keep on their books. The whole transaction (Kemba's new contract with us and his buyout with OKC) was basicaly one big move.
What does that mean?
1 Jabari Smith Jaren Jackson
2 Jaden Ivey John Wall
3 Jalen Duren Robert Williams
4 Paolo Banchero Tobias Harris
5 Dyson Daniels Sean Elliot
6 Chet Holmgren Kristaps Portzingis
7 Bennedict Mathurin Andrew Wiggins
8 Johnny Davis Poor man's Devin Booker
9 Tari Eason OG Onunoby
10 Shaedon Sharpe a sane JR Smith
11 Keegan Murray Saddiq Bey
12 Mark Williams Clint Capela
13 AJ Griffin Kevin Huerter
15 EJ Liddell Grant Williams
14 Jeremy Sochan Herb Jones
16 Malaki Branham Khris Middleton
17 TyTy Washington Immanual Quickley
18 Kennedy Chandler Dennis Schroeder
19 Dalen Terry Spencer Dinwiddie
20 Ousmane Dieng Nic Batum
21 Jalen Williams Quinton Grimes
22 Nikola Jovic Danilo Gallinari
23 Wendell Moore Bruce Brown
24 Jaden Hardy Cam Thomas
26 Blake Wesley Kerry Kittles
25 Ochai Agbaji Royce O'Neale
27 Patrick Baldwin Bojan Bogdanovic (Utah)
28 Walker Kessler Hasaan Whiteside
29 Max Christie Aaron Nesmith
30 John Butler Nic Claxton
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something to keep an eye on
What does that mean?
It coukd mean they are getting an abnormal amount of bets on a certain bet or they have intel on something coming and want to take it off before it is made public
And I think it's ridiculous to re-sign Robinson for that much. The guy can't stay healthy. Pursue Bamba instead.
And I think it's ridiculous to re-sign Robinson for that much. The guy can't stay healthy. Pursue Bamba instead.
Mitch, drafted same year, has played more games and minutes than Bamba. He's also a better defender and a legit starting center. Even with the clear difference in shooting, Mitch has a better OBPM, probably because he's a better offensive rebounder.
So, I don't think Bamba is gonna be especially cheap and the Knicks only have the MLE to sign him. Clearly better to bring back Mitch, who I think is the better player, assuming the contract isn't that bad.
And I think it's ridiculous to re-sign Robinson for that much. The guy can't stay healthy. Pursue Bamba instead.
I disagree on Brunson. He's a culture changer. He's the exact opposite of the poison Julius Randle puts in the Knicks sauce. Brunson is 25 and would be a great leader of this young roster for many years to come.
I do agree that Bamba is a better choice than Mitch (for cost, durability, improvement projection).
Agreed. Stay away from Brogdon, now watch the Knicks trade for him. :)
Jonathan Wasserman
@NBADraftWass
Updated mock draft, day before the day https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10039256-brs-final-2022-nba-mock-draft?share=twitter
Jonathan Wasserman
@NBADraftWass
Updated mock draft, day before the day https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10039256-brs-final-2022-nba-mock-draft?share=twitter
Would be hard to be disappointed by adding this kind of shooting.
Mitch, drafted same year, has played more games and minutes than Bamba. He's also a better defender and a legit starting center. Even with the clear difference in shooting, Mitch has a better OBPM, probably because he's a better offensive rebounder.
So, I don't think Bamba is gonna be especially cheap and the Knicks only have the MLE to sign him. Clearly better to bring back Mitch, who I think is the better player, assuming the contract isn't that bad.
Selective use of advanced metrics, given that Win Share and VORP both favor Bamba and by substantial margins.
Bamba has such a different game offensively (38% from 3, 78% FT) that there really is no comparison.
As for defense, Mitch can dominate against the right matchup but he can also be outclassed. Anthony Davis physically humiliated him in the national TV game that everybody saw.
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Wasserman has the Knicks selecting Duke's Griffin.
Jonathan Wasserman
@NBADraftWass
Updated mock draft, day before the day https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10039256-brs-final-2022-nba-mock-draft?share=twitter
Would be hard to be disappointed by adding this kind of shooting.
He has a high ceiling if he can remain injury free.
Woo had him 11th with a more positive but also not so great report.
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Mitch, drafted same year, has played more games and minutes than Bamba. He's also a better defender and a legit starting center. Even with the clear difference in shooting, Mitch has a better OBPM, probably because he's a better offensive rebounder.
So, I don't think Bamba is gonna be especially cheap and the Knicks only have the MLE to sign him. Clearly better to bring back Mitch, who I think is the better player, assuming the contract isn't that bad.
Selective use of advanced metrics, given that Win Share and VORP both favor Bamba and by substantial margins.
Bamba has such a different game offensively (38% from 3, 78% FT) that there really is no comparison.
As for defense, Mitch can dominate against the right matchup but he can also be outclassed. Anthony Davis physically humiliated him in the national TV game that everybody saw.
Hardly selective. Mitch has higher VORP, WS and WS/48 than Bamba
There's a reasonable argument that Bamba's shooting would help the other players in a way that Mitch can't and that his upside therefore is higher. But in terms of their actual contributions on the floor, Mitch is the better player. The shooting is the only way that Bamba is better than Mitch - although it's also a pretty important one. And when AD is on, Mo Bamba is not a better matchup than Mitch, either. Both will get whupped, probably.
Woo had him 11th with a more positive but also not so great report.
I would not worry, seems the Knicks will probably trade up down or out of that pick.
@TheNBACentral
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The Brooklyn Nets are offering Kyrie Irving a four-year, $192 million max contract, per @BobbyMarks42
“The first two years of the deal are guaranteed, but Year 3 and Year 4 are not guaranteed unless he hits games played minimums of 65 games in 22-23 and 23-24.”
@TheNBACentral
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The Brooklyn Nets are offering Kyrie Irving a four-year, $192 million max contract, per @BobbyMarks42
“The first two years of the deal are guaranteed, but Year 3 and Year 4 are not guaranteed unless he hits games played minimums of 65 games in 22-23 and 23-24.”
Smart deal by Brooklyn gives them a almost guaranteed out after 2 years and if they are going to make a real run in the next 2 years they need Kyrie.
@TheNBACentral
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The Brooklyn Nets are offering Kyrie Irving a four-year, $192 million max contract, per @BobbyMarks42
“The first two years of the deal are guaranteed, but Year 3 and Year 4 are not guaranteed unless he hits games played minimums of 65 games in 22-23 and 23-24.”
Smart offer. This is where the rubber hits the road. Hard to believe someone is going to offer him the full max guaranteed. They're calling his bluff.
@BobbyMarks42
This is incorrect and aggregated
I mentioned on TV this morning what I would offer Irving.
I have no direct knowledge of the conversations with Brooklyn and Irving.
Youngest American prospect is also the best 3 point shooter in the draft. He would’ve finished 3rd in the country if he was eligible. If the Knicks can’t get a PG, they need someone who can hit a shot. Unfortunately, the draft is deepest at the 3 positions the Knicks also have a logjam.
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said he has very slow feet, might have to play the 4 (at 6'6), defensive indicators were poor and his one real skill at this point is catch and shoot ability.
Youngest American prospect is also the best 3 point shooter in the draft. He would’ve finished 3rd in the country if he was eligible. If the Knicks can’t get a PG, they need someone who can hit a shot. Unfortunately, the draft is deepest at the 3 positions the Knicks also have a logjam.
Might be young but does this sound appealing?
"13. A.J. Griffin | 6-6 freshman | SG | Duke
Griffin is 6-6 with a 7-foot wingspan and shot 44.7 percent from 3 on relatively high volume last year, which will be the press release summary from the team that picks him. That might have you thinking “3-and-D!” But let’s stop the presses on the D part.
Griffin’s defensive tape is … not good. He may have to play four, even at 6-6, because he has decent strength but his feet are stuck in concrete. He is very slow sliding his feet and reacting to an opponent’s first move and had absolutely no chance checking quick guards.
Going through his tape, I found it one thing to see ACC Player of the Year Alondes Williams cook him on a straight-line drive; when a random dude from Army did the same thing, that’s when the red flags really started flapping in the wind. Griffin’s indicator stats aren’t great either, with a pathetic steal rate for a wing (just 1.1 per 100 possessions in ACC play).
Offensively, he didn’t impress when he put it on the floor, but the threat of his shot does open lanes for him pretty easily and widen his margin for error. Also, did I mention his shooting? Griffin has a low release point but moves to get himself open and can knock down catch-and-shoots from a variety of platforms. I don’t see him being a guy who can come flying off screens locked-and-loaded, but he’s an elite catch-and-shoot threat from Day 1. That gives him value even if he struggles at the other end, and at just 19, there’s at least a shred of hope he can keep improving the defense."
Griffin’s game comes down to how much you buy him as a shot creator. If you think he’s such a good shooter and jump-shot
creator that he can average an efficient 20 points per game almost purely living on 3-pointers and pull-ups, then you should
have him in the top five. As a scorer, I would argue that he has the most upside in the draft outside of the top four guys because
of that value as a shooter. I completely buy him as a 40 percent shooter from 3 if you get him a steady stream of kickouts. If you
start to throw in his potential athletic gains as he gets further from injury, then it’s easy to see how you could have him that
high. But if you don’t buy him as being able to get enough separation because his stiffness and athleticism limits how fluid and
functional he can be, then there is some real downside because of how poor he is on defense. When he’s not scoring, he can
be invisible because he’s not making an impact as a defender, transition driver or passer. There were far too many moments
where he was a passenger for Duke. This is a risk/reward pick. The general manager who picks him might end up with the kind
of scorer who can get to his spots and shoot over the top because of how special his touch is. Or they might end up with a floorspacing defensive liability. Take your chances.
Sounds like he had the surgery a few months ago per Begley
Hardly selective. Mitch has higher VORP, WS and WS/48 than Bamba
Apologies. I was looking at the same pages in B Ref side-by-side but got them crossed up.
And I think it's ridiculous to re-sign Robinson for that much. The guy can't stay healthy. Pursue Bamba instead.
I don't completely love Mitch but all we seem to be doing is talking about Mitch's shortcomings rather than what he brings.
And Bamba has missed as much or more time than Robinson the last 4 seasons. Not sure why though...I just see similar games...
Mo - ( New Window )
Again, i'd move Robinson if it helped the team. I'd even let him walk if the Knicks had other plans up their sleeve.
Mitch - ( New Window )
He said he felt good physically and couldn’t understand why his body wasn’t responding to the conditioning work. He said the athlete in him wanted to keep pushing through the adversity but eventually his physical struggles reached the point where Bamba realized something bigger was at play.
Eventually, the Magic’s human performance staff decided it was best for Bamba to leave the bubble for a comprehensive post-coronavirus evaluation.
Bamba, who had tested positive for COVID-19 on June 11, appeared in the second half in each of the team’s first two seeding games but did not play again and left before the team’s finale against the Pelicans.
Bamba nodded in agreement when asked if having the comprehensive test helped lift a weight off his shoulders.
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Hardly selective. Mitch has higher VORP, WS and WS/48 than Bamba
Apologies. I was looking at the same pages in B Ref side-by-side but got them crossed up.
No worries! In that spirit, I will admit that I am somewhat biased here to re-sign Mitch because I want the Knicks to fucking re-sign a draft pick so I can stop hearing the "not since Charlie Ward" stat. :)
Thanks Yea I wasn't sure when I saw the games played...kind of figured there was some covid time in there.