AAA Fisher
AA TBD
A+ Santos (He's really been pitching well recently (1.62 June era + a string of 3 strong starts coming into the month)
A Colon
Levi David has been assigned to the FCL Mets (the right move, the walks were out of hand)
Syracuse
Vientos 1-3, BB
Lee 1-4, 2 k's
Szapucki 5 innings 3 hits 1 run 2 walks 5 k's
Nogosek 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 5 k's
AA
El Troll 2-4, HR, BB (Truly a stud)
Baty 1-4, BB, K
Mauricio 0-5, 3 k's
Cortes 0-3, BB, K
McIIwain 2-4, K (Brandon McIlwain having himself a June....346/.443/.577 (yes, the k's are too high 17/52 ab's), but it comes with 8 walks and 8 extra base hits)
Scherzer 3.1 innings 3 hits 2 runs 1 walk 6 k's
Butto 2 innings 6 hits 5 runs 1 walk 3 k's
Yamamoto 3 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's
BK
Newton 1-4, 2 k's
Schwartz 1-4
Palmer 2-3, BB, K
Seymour 4 innings 6 hits 3 runs 0 walks 4 k's
St. Lucie
Ramirez 1-4, K
Consuegra 0-4, K
Tilien 2-3, BB
Lugo 1-3, BB, K
ODLS 1-4, K
Dominguez 0-3, 2 k's (Terrible June so far .233/.303/.350, 3 extra base hits, 26 k's over 60 ab's)
Hamel 6.2 innings 6 hits 2 runs 0 walks 7 k's (best pro start, 0 walks is huge, he's been disappointing in 2022, but plenty of time to turn it around)
Beck .1 perfect "The Oklahoma Skyscraper" has yet to allow a run over 5 appearances in 2022
FCL1
Rodriguez 1-2, BB, K
Peroza 1-4, HR (top 25 in the system coming into the season per BA)
Acuna 5 innings 3 hits 0 runs 0 walks 7 k's (one to watch)
FCL2
Rodriguez 2-4, HR, 3B
Martinez 1-4, HR, 3 k's
Ovalles 3 innings 9 k's (as noted, his stuff apparently isn't especially good, Shecky said he spoke to somebody yesterday who said his delivery was very funky)
DSL
Juan 1-5
Castro 2-4, BB, K
Paz 2-4
I can't remember at this point where I saw/heard it but some scouts think Toman could have 55 grades for both hit and power. BA really liked him. Sounds like his future is more likely than not at 3b (haven't seen anybody believe he'd stay at SS, but who knows?)
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I didn't see a response when I posted yesterday, but looking at highlight clips of Tucker Toman he looks awfully intriguing especially since we could save a boatload of money with him (even paying him 20th/21st slot is above where he is currently projected) and use that money to land some extra arms that might look for more than slot with future picks.
I can't remember at this point where I saw/heard it but some scouts think Toman could have 55 grades for both hit and power. BA really liked him. Sounds like his future is more likely than not at 3b (haven't seen anybody believe he'd stay at SS, but who knows?)
With Lindor at SS and a number of names in the system whether he sticks at SS or not is not really my prime concern. The hit/power is intriguing especially if it will come at a substantially lower price tag.
Toman, the son of Middle Tennessee coach Jim Toman, is a switch-hitting infielder with the potential to hit for average and power from both sides of the plate, with some risk around his contact skills. He has great bat speed, with a more fluid and powerful swing from the left side, although he had better results batting right-handed over the summer (in a small sample). He’s shown he can handle good velocity, but struggles more against breaking stuff. With below-average speed, he’s limited to third base or second if he stays on the dirt, with enough arm to probably stay at the hot corner – although if he remains on the dirt, it’ll be because of his instincts rather than athleticism or agility.
"They haven’t been subtle about having huge heat at his games going back to like March. You never know with the draft but I'd be pretty shocked if they pass on Jett Williams twice. Shocked"
Seems like he will either be there for the taking, or at worst pushes another player down.
Every time I see his name, I think of the Sandlot
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I don't care if he sticks at SS, my #1 hope at 11 now is Jett Williams and he's probably at best a 60% chance to remain at SS.
Seems like he will either be there for the taking, or at worst pushes another player down.
Every time I see his name, I think of the Sandlot
His size and relatively "weak" arm are his 2 negatives and the fact he's likely a 2b or CF at the next level if he makes it to the show with the Mets makes the arm a non-issue (some think his arm is at least average and plays up because of how smart of a player he is). Altuve like offensive upside.
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I don't care if he sticks at SS, my #1 hope at 11 now is Jett Williams and he's probably at best a 60% chance to remain at SS.
Seems like he will either be there for the taking, or at worst pushes another player down.
Every time I see his name, I think of the Sandlot
His size and relatively "weak" arm are his 2 negatives and the fact he's likely a 2b or CF at the next level if he makes it to the show with the Mets makes the arm a non-issue (some think his arm is at least average and plays up because of how smart of a player he is). Altuve like offensive upside.
You had me at "Altuve like offensive upside."
In theory they could just call up Meyer. Meyer can't hit (Mazeika has a 42 OPS+ for his career himself) but is a plus glove, as is Hayden Senger. If they really needed a 3rd catcher they have a few options, + there are always veteran "Rene Rivera's" floating around, I'm sort of surprised they haven't added one to Syracuse. I guess that's Nick Dini
Canha is the only Met to face Garcia. He is 2-4 with a HR against him.
Callis said last 20! years.
He's a little old for that level. Maybe they should just bring him up and throw him out there ;-)
@timbhealey
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Buck Showalter said he expects Jeff McNeil (right hamstring tightness) to return to the lineup Friday or Saturday in Miami.
Really like the sound of that - sign me up for this kid.
Sandy Alderson admitted a mistake?
This really is a new era of Mets leadership
Cijntje worked with a 94-96 mph fastball and a 79-80 mph breaking ball with 2600 rpm from the right side, and an 88-92 mph heater and a 75-76 mph breaker with 2400 rpm from the left. That’s fairly typical for the natural left-hander, who has a reversible glove that he adjusts depending on the batter.
lol, Sandy admits it yet people on here still can't.
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Interesting... Sandy speaks... notes the PCA trade hasn't worked out and implies @mets will try to avoid mortgaging their future in deadline deals, balancing short-term/long-term #Mets
lol, Sandy admits it yet people on here still can't.
Am I missing something? Who has said the PCA trade worked out? I don't even remember anyone saying they liked the trade at the time if it was just for a Baez rental
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Interesting... Sandy speaks... notes the PCA trade hasn't worked out and implies @mets will try to avoid mortgaging their future in deadline deals, balancing short-term/long-term #Mets
lol, Sandy admits it yet people on here still can't.
Am I missing something? Who has said the PCA trade worked out? I don't even remember anyone saying they liked the trade at the time if it was just for a Baez rental
Eric in LI
Fortunately, Mets have an off day so it it won't be as much of an issue today.
if i had wanted to trade alonso in favor of keeping dom i don't think i'd be so bold in my gotchas, or worry about them at all, but i guess that's just me.
Fortunately, Mets have an off day so it it won't be as much of an issue today.
It’s tough to “give up” two games in a row.
Cookie isn’t fooling any of the Astros. They are on everything he throws.
@timbhealey
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Carlos Carrasco is coming out of the game with an athletic trainer after pitching 2 1/3 innings.
Astros 5, Mets 1, bottom 3
Who woulda thunk it?
Who woulda thunk it?
pretty much every team in mlb has pitching depth issues. LAD are down Buehler and May. Heaney and Kershaw missed time. And obviously Bauer may end up one of the worst FA signings of all time.
starting pitching in the regular season is a war of attrition and you can never have enough depth. that's why when push comes to shove i think they will end up adding 1 of montas/castillo/mahle.
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When you sign older and/or oft-injured pitchers…you are going to have severe depth issues.
Who woulda thunk it?
pretty much every team in mlb has pitching depth issues. LAD are down Buehler and May. Heaney and Kershaw missed time. And obviously Bauer may end up one of the worst FA signings of all time.
starting pitching in the regular season is a war of attrition and you can never have enough depth. that's why when push comes to shove i think they will end up adding 1 of montas/castillo/mahle.
Of course many teams have pitching depth issues? But how many have lost 3/4 of their starting rotation?
My point is that this was the least surprising thing to happen to the Mets this season. We all knew that our pitching likely wouldn’t hold up and we had very little depth to begin with. Pitchers break…I get it. But we put ourselves in a precarious position.
predicting pitchers health is a crapshoot but you need good ones so not sure what anyone can do except get as many as you can afford.
if i had wanted to trade alonso in favor of keeping dom i don't think i'd be so bold in my gotchas, or worry about them at all, but i guess that's just me.
lol, annual gotcha fail? it's one trade and you maintained even this year after the Mets didn't re-sign Baez how it was a good move that you support then and now. Then you pivoted to PCA is all-glove and not a prospect to care about losing.
My only point is Sandy has now agreed it didn't work out, yet last time it came up you were still clinging to it making sense both at the time and not being a "bad trade" even now.
just say you were wrong. it is a freeing feeling.
I was wrong to care so much about losing Kelenic, I admit it, but I also tend to be a prospect hugger so it takes me a while to get there (admitting I was wrong). But in the Baez trade I (and many) have been consistent it was a bad trade and indicated an incongruent level of investment based on the state of the team, the risk of missing the playoffs, and the risk of not re-signing the player.
not to sound contradictory and im not in any way against promoting him but doing it for a series in his hometown seems a little non-ideal. guy is going to get 500 ticket requests for his first game and have his entire world live in person watching his first K's against Alcantara.
Who is calling the game this early?
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It doesn't make up for being swept, but Vientos did not pinch hit in the 9th with the tying run on 1b.... promotion time? #Mets
Who is calling the game this early?
They look lifeless, if they come back and win, good on them and egg on my face, I'll take it.
@mikemayer22
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Carrasco's average fastball velo was down 1.3 mph today.
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any deadline rental that doesn't result in playoffs "didn't work out" and I (nor anyone else i've seen) has ever argued that the deal "worked out". nobody makes a deal when they are in first place with the hopes of ending up 3rd. that's a pretty black and white failure.
if i had wanted to trade alonso in favor of keeping dom i don't think i'd be so bold in my gotchas, or worry about them at all, but i guess that's just me.
lol, annual gotcha fail? it's one trade and you maintained even this year after the Mets didn't re-sign Baez how it was a good move that you support then and now. Then you pivoted to PCA is all-glove and not a prospect to care about losing.
My only point is Sandy has now agreed it didn't work out, yet last time it came up you were still clinging to it making sense both at the time and not being a "bad trade" even now.
just say you were wrong. it is a freeing feeling.
I was wrong to care so much about losing Kelenic, I admit it, but I also tend to be a prospect hugger so it takes me a while to get there (admitting I was wrong). But in the Baez trade I (and many) have been consistent it was a bad trade and indicated an incongruent level of investment based on the state of the team, the risk of missing the playoffs, and the risk of not re-signing the player.
i still have no problem with the trade but that's not the same thing as saying it "worked out". you are attributing something to me that i've never said so maybe hold off on your masterclass on altruism?
Mauricio .235/.293/.500
Baty .317/.386/.476
GENY Mets Report
@genymets
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NEWS: According to @ragazzoreport
, Jacob deGrom threw live batting practice yesterday in Port St. Lucie and looked very sharp.
The expectation is that he’ll throw one more live BP this weekend. Then, he’ll begin his rehab assignment. #LGM
Escobar - 2/17, 7 ks
Plummer - 0/7, 5 ks
dom - 1/3, 1 k.
very hard to win with offensive positions so non-competitive. Escobar bases loaded 2 days in row, Dom today. Every player after Alonso in the batting order today has a slg% under .400.
predicting pitchers health is a crapshoot but you need good ones so not sure what anyone can do except get as many as you can afford.
I get it, Eric. I’m just saying that the Mets were probably in a worse position pitcher-healthwise than most other teams. I don’t think that’s going out on a limb there. But if was a big off-season subject.
Regarding Carrasco, he was off from the first pitch of the game. You have to think that he was already hurting before the game started and didn’t say anything, right? Which is frustrating because I can’t believe that they would throw him out there if they knew he was injured.
I could easily be wrong here. But they’ve been extremely careful not to put a date on anything with him all along. So I’d be very surprised if this is true.
I’m assuming it’s someone calculating the five days from rehab on out as opposed to someone inside with an actual date.
Goes without saying but on the same token the Vientos stuff is 100% me just reading the box score, seeing he didn't pinch hit, I wasn't "told" anything by anybody.
even if they didn't have a big prospect at AAA they'd have to consider giving him some time off for someone else. with mcneil out they don't have too many alternatives.
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even if they didn't have a big prospect at AAA they'd have to consider giving him some time off for someone else. with mcneil out they don't have too many alternatives.
What about Luis? When McNeil comes back, can’t we have Luis play third and plant Escobar on the bench? He’s a black hole in this lineup.
much appreciated difference from rushing carrasco back without any rehab starts last year.
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Buck Showalter on Scherzer: "Max knows we want him to pitch for us the rest of the season. Just because we’re having some challenges with some of the health of our starters, it shouldn’t affect at all his timetable."
much appreciated difference from rushing carrasco back without any rehab starts last year.
I could be wrong, but that's how I took that quote post-game. How much "quicker" could he possibly be back? It's not like Carrasco being hurt meant Scherzer might be back SOONER than Sunday and I agree, better Scherzer 100% than not.
i know szpuck was awful when he came up but he's had a few decent starts since going down and if he's the only alternative giving him another shot isn't like eickhoff (who just got promoted to pitt the other day, which is a pretty good indicator on the awful state of SP in general).
@stluciemets
has 1 hit through 7 innings... yet lead 2-1 Jeffrey Colon with 5.2 strong 5 hits 1 run 0 walks 5 k's. Ramirez/Consuegra/Dominguez/Tillien/Lugo a combined 0-12 (they do have 5 walks between them)
Those were tough conditions for any lefty. Puck clearly was rattled
So I expect a much better start from him next time
Those were tough conditions for any lefty. Puck clearly was rattled
So I expect a much better start from him next time
idk he may simply not be a big league level player, some guys arent especially after all the injuries he's been through, but giving him a second shot in a pinch is just in a very different category than a journeyman like eickhoff getting shellacked in multiple turns through a rotation.
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I was at Giants stadium for that game. There was a very stiff bay wind blowing from right diagonally across the field and out to left
Those were tough conditions for any lefty. Puck clearly was rattled
So I expect a much better start from him next time
idk he may simply not be a big league level player, some guys arent especially after all the injuries he's been through, but giving him a second shot in a pinch is just in a very different category than a journeyman like eickhoff getting shellacked in multiple turns through a rotation.
Lost in the Scherzer start at Bing, was that Jose Butto got knocked around and gave up 6 hits and 5 runs in 2 innings. Easily his worst appearance of the year... possibly a result of it also being his only time appearing in relief... but this was a bit discouraging because he very well may have been a next man up candidate given how well he's pitched and that he is on the 40 man.