Many of the recent Knicks rumors have lost some steam from a few days ago.
Do the Knicks put all their chips on the table, cutting a deal with the Kings for Jaden Ivey?
A possible Malcom Brogdon deal is said to not include the 11th pick.
Will the Knicks clear $25M in cap space to sign Jalen Brunson?
Where does Burks and Noel land if dealt?
Julius Randle is never in national trade rumors.
If NY stays at 11 and drafts AJ Griffin, how will he history of knee issues fair?
Dejounte Murray was rumored in a possible John Collins deal. This is something the Knicks should investigate.
A lot of Knicks fans on Twitter are down on Leon Rose and Co. Many stating that he is just taking care of CAA, family and friends.
We will have some more clarity in a few hours.
because they wanted the cap space
because that doesn’t clear any cap space so how would it help us?
Drama
They couldn't dump Randle or Burks or Noel who all have neutral value and wont cost an arm and leg to dump salary ?
They send out a benched guy who would not put on the uniform again (Kemba) and 4 SECOND Round picks and a 1st (acquired in a trade).
In return, they get THREE FIRST round picks in future years.
And somehow this is a bad thing? What is wrong with people?
They couldn't dump Randle or Burks or Noel who all have neutral value and wont cost an arm and leg to dump salary ?
Neither Randle nor Noel have neutral value. Burks probably does but with his knee surgery who knows. They also got a 2025 first rounder in that deal
They couldn't dump Randle or Burks or Noel who all have neutral value and wont cost an arm and leg to dump salary ?
They got a 1st back in that deal, so Knicks still ended up with 3 1sts
Maybe the Greek will have a season ending injury early in October of 2024 and they end up winning an NBA low 15 games…only to see that pick fall from projected #1 to #8 in the lottery because…Knicks
We got a first back in the clearing
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Top 14 protected in 2023, top 12 protected in 2024, top 10 protected in 2025 and top 8 protected in 2026 before converting to a 2027 second round pick.
That’s not a good pick jeez.
This is wrong.
Next year’s draft is much stronger than this years. In addition, Washington ended up with the 10th worst spot this year- missing Beal for a good portion of the season. A healthy Beal likely means this conveys next year.
Beal missed 42 games, they missed the playoffs by 8 games. They went 18-22 with him. They went 17-25 without him. Not a huge difference.
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the issue is the second trade using 1 of those 1st round picks plus 4 2nd round picks just to dump $8m in salary.
They couldn't dump Randle or Burks or Noel who all have neutral value and wont cost an arm and leg to dump salary ?
They got a 1st back in that deal, so Knicks still ended up with 3 1sts
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Zack Lowe is saying they got the 2025 Milwaukee pick from the pistons which was from the deal yesterday
The problem eveyone has is it appears that a 1st rounder and 2 seconds went to Charlotte/detroit to get rid of kemba. That’s too much
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the issue is the second trade using 1 of those 1st round picks plus 4 2nd round picks just to dump $8m in salary.
They couldn't dump Randle or Burks or Noel who all have neutral value and wont cost an arm and leg to dump salary ?
Neither Randle nor Noel have neutral value. Burks probably does but with his knee surgery who knows. They also got a 2025 first rounder in that deal
I see the 1st rounder now . that does help even though its Milwaukee but hopefully they fall off by then .
What do you think it would take to dump Randle ?
The problem eveyone has is it appears that a 1st rounder and 2 seconds went to Charlotte/detroit to get rid of kemba. That’s too much
No they got another 1st rounder in the Detroit deal. They traded Denver's 2023 and got back Bucks 2015
They send out a benched guy who would not put on the uniform again (Kemba) and 4 SECOND Round picks and a 1st (acquired in a trade).
In return, they get THREE FIRST round picks in future years.
And somehow this is a bad thing? What is wrong with people?
Thanks for breaking it down. I was watching the Yankees come from behind again. Figures all the non-game thread people are shitting their pants. Leon hasn't been fleeced at all in his time here. Not sure why that would change tonight.
The problem eveyone has is it appears that a 1st rounder and 2 seconds went to Charlotte/detroit to get rid of kemba. That’s too much
they gave a 23 denver pick in the detroit deal but got back a 25 1st from milwaukee in that deal..
so knicks technichally have 4 1sts next year 1 1st in 24 and 2 1sts in 25
They send out a benched guy who would not put on the uniform again (Kemba) and 4 SECOND Round picks and a 1st (acquired in a trade).
In return, they get THREE FIRST round picks in future years.
And somehow this is a bad thing? What is wrong with people?
They are not necessarily firsts. The eventually change to seconds (not sure about the Milwaukee pick).
Lolol
They came into the night looking at AJ Griffin and no cap space. They are coming out with 3 future firsts and cap room to finally get a real point guard. What is there to spin?
What do you think it would take to dump Randle ?
Not a lot of teams can absorb him into cap space and the teams that can probably don't want to risk getting the version of him we saw last year. So probably more than most fans would guess
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The Knicks trade out of the draft and then trade back in.
They send out a benched guy who would not put on the uniform again (Kemba) and 4 SECOND Round picks and a 1st (acquired in a trade).
In return, they get THREE FIRST round picks in future years.
And somehow this is a bad thing? What is wrong with people?
They are not necessarily firsts. The eventually change to seconds (not sure about the Milwaukee pick).
That being too pessimistic by a LOT. These aren’t strong protections. The picks will convey before they turn into seconds.
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Can’t wait to see how they try to put a positive spin on this
They came into the night looking at AJ Griffin and no cap space. They are coming out with 3 future firsts and cap room to finally get a real point guard. What is there to spin?
To possibly get a point guard. I won't believe it until I see the guy signing a contract with the Knicks
yes jever, knicks have no draft picks on their roster right now, just an old team with no youth
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The Knicks trade out of the draft and then trade back in.
They send out a benched guy who would not put on the uniform again (Kemba) and 4 SECOND Round picks and a 1st (acquired in a trade).
In return, they get THREE FIRST round picks in future years.
And somehow this is a bad thing? What is wrong with people?
Thanks for breaking it down. I was watching the Yankees come from behind again. Figures all the non-game thread people are shitting their pants. Leon hasn't been fleeced at all in his time here. Not sure why that would change tonight.
There hasn’t been much stop and think going on in this thread in about 2 hours. Lots of emotional whining and baseless speculation without thought. It’s like a Giants game thread.
you got 8 guys under the age of 24 on this team
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They gave up one of those future 1st rd picks so they only netted 2 first round picks.
The problem eveyone has is it appears that a 1st rounder and 2 seconds went to Charlotte/detroit to get rid of kemba. That’s too much
they gave a 23 denver pick in the detroit deal but got back a 25 1st from milwaukee in that deal..
so knicks technichally have 4 1sts next year 1 1st in 24 and 2 1sts in 25
Possibly have. They are protected. The only ones we can count on are our own and Dallas'.
NBA pick value just drops off way too fast
I'm excited about Grimes, Quickley, Obi, RJ.
Biggest issue are the Vets on the roster who block these guys
All but Detroit probably converts next year.
Obviously we are not make 3 1st round picks next year so we would have to make a trade for a big fish this year or kick them down the road again.
Or attach them to trade Randle sarcasm
NBA pick value just drops off way too fast
This draft sucks. Not all drafts are the same.
This starting line reeks of 8 seed or late lottery:
Brunson
Fournier
RJ
Randle
Mitch
3 lefties in starting line up
To start
probably trade the pick to clear Burks or Noel hahahaha
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For rd 2
probably trade the pick to clear Burks or Noel hahahaha
at this point might as well. I'd rather move Noel so Sims gets some more playing time
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but we dont make 1st round picks anyway!
All but Detroit probably converts next year.
Obviously we are not make 3 1st round picks next year so we would have to make a trade for a big fish this year or kick them down the road again.
Or attach them to trade Randle sarcasm
Don't beat on getting Washington's.
Hoping we roll the dice on Jaden Hardy
Hardy, Chandler, McGowens for me