Many of the recent Knicks rumors have lost some steam from a few days ago.
Do the Knicks put all their chips on the table, cutting a deal with the Kings for Jaden Ivey?
A possible Malcom Brogdon deal is said to not include the 11th pick.
Will the Knicks clear $25M in cap space to sign Jalen Brunson?
Where does Burks and Noel land if dealt?
Julius Randle is never in national trade rumors.
If NY stays at 11 and drafts AJ Griffin, how will he history of knee issues fair?
Dejounte Murray was rumored in a possible John Collins deal. This is something the Knicks should investigate.
A lot of Knicks fans on Twitter are down on Leon Rose and Co. Many stating that he is just taking care of CAA, family and friends.
We will have some more clarity in a few hours.
who checked out on the team years ago.
Just wanted to say I gotta admire the enthusiasm of those BBIers who still follow the team!
Randle's value is at it's lowest, IMO. He works really hard in the offseason and I think he motivates his teammates to work hard too, in the offseason. I think we would be better off hoping he comes back motivated as he seems to do better as the underdog rather than when there are high expectations. Let him build up some positive value and then trade him.
20-21 rose was 15 PPG / 5 Assists, attack the rim and hit your free throws, and be a reliable 3PT shooter.
Brunson was that last year, though I don't know how good a defender he is.
I see how it might work. It's going to be an overpay if it happens, but free agents deals are overpays.
On how many attempts?
From his lips to God's ear.
This is about as obvious as it gets. Everyone knows that we lack top end talent, but the question has always been how to get that talent. We've seemed to have drafted better in years past, but we have terrible luck and no star wants to come here....yet.
I was listening to the Athletic pod guys break down Griffin yesterday and that was the thing that stuck out to me. They were really really down on his defensive potential.
They highlighted that he had an insanely low usage rate, but shined with limited opportunities on offense.
Or bring back Mitch. I'd be fine with that too.
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so he's not just a catch and shoot if wide open guy
On how many attempts?
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I somewhat feel the same way. Find the guy that has an elite skill at something and built off that.
I'm not saying Griffin is elite, because it looks like a limited sample size.
Who knows. But if you can knock down shots, there's a place for you in the NBA. Joe Harris is only on the court to knock down 3s, for example.
Sadly... easier said than done. The FA market pretty much sucks. Hollinger ranks Ricky Rubio and Delon Wright the two best PG's after Irving and Brunson.
They're gonna sign Jones and draft Griffin just to torture me.
As if being a Knicks fan wasn't torture enough, they're gonna turn the Knicks into the New York Dookies to boot.
Perhaps I am wrong about Sochan but I see a guy who is an ordinary athlete with subpar skills. His intangibles are his strength. But I think he caps out at a bench guy who provides a nice shot in the arm energy wise.
Whereas, I see Eason as having real (plus) physical ability.
Do you disagree on the Sochan assessment?
2. Trade Noel and Burks to Sacto for a heavily protected 2nd (basically, a ham sandwich). Both modest and expiring deals and useful players for Sacto and if including good prospect and Euro-Stash Roku Jokubaitas as incentive is necessary, then so be it. Cap savings = 19mm.
3. Draft Tari Eason
4. Sign Jalen Brunson
5. MLE to Mo Bamba or Mitch Robinson
Roster then looks like this:
PG: Brunson, IQ, Rose
SG: Brogden, Grimes
SF: RJB, Fournier
PF: Obi, Eason
C: Mo or Mitch, Sims
That's a smart, hard working, young team with .500 record upside and no onerous contracts.
On Ivey, I don't think anything happens until Sacramento is on the clock. You can't make the deal if you are the Knicks until you know Ivey is still available unless you are just as comfortable settling for Banchero or Holmgren if Ivey some how goes top 3.
In terms of compensation, they should be willing to offer 11, a top 4 protected next year, and either Toppin or Quickley. It would be a bummer to give up either of those guys, and would be great if it could be Grimes, but if we are stuck with Randle then you'd might as well move Toppin while his value is still relatively high. Ivey removes the sting of losing IQ in the backcourt, especially if the plan is to pursue Brunson.
We need to figure out how to make Randle an asset that teams want.
We need to figure out how to make Randle an asset that teams want.
Everything you say here is true in general, except in this case Randle is poisoning the team and blocking the development of Obi and to an extent, RJB. This team just cannot endure another season like what he did to destroy it last year. There are just too many good young players whose future depends on a good culture and Randle's presence ensures a toxic culture.
1. He works very hard on his craft(in the offseason). He took Sims under his wing and getting him into better shape.
2. He seems to do better as an underdog rather than when there are high expectations on him.
I think the smart move is to hope he comes back in 2020 form or close to it and then trade him.
That's what I thought when they opened up that cap space. I haven't watched much of the Pistons, but wonder how well Brunson and Cade would play together.
Nope. Banchero is soft as a feather.