Many of the recent Knicks rumors have lost some steam from a few days ago.
Do the Knicks put all their chips on the table, cutting a deal with the Kings for Jaden Ivey?
A possible Malcom Brogdon deal is said to not include the 11th pick.
Will the Knicks clear $25M in cap space to sign Jalen Brunson?
Where does Burks and Noel land if dealt?
Julius Randle is never in national trade rumors.
If NY stays at 11 and drafts AJ Griffin, how will he history of knee issues fair?
Dejounte Murray was rumored in a possible John Collins deal. This is something the Knicks should investigate.
A lot of Knicks fans on Twitter are down on Leon Rose and Co. Many stating that he is just taking care of CAA, family and friends.
We will have some more clarity in a few hours.
1) Danny Ainge is notorious for asking for the moon in trades and not making trades if he doesn't get exactly what he wants.
2) Mitchell is under contract to Utah for a while.
3) Unless something changed, Mitchell hasn't asked for a trade so there's absolutely nothing pressuring Utah to deal him.
Knicks would have to throw a godfather offer out there and even then there's no reason for Utah to do it.
No chance really, so many other teams with more assets to offer.
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to get Donovan Mitchell? He’s the one guy I want. I’m not necessarily interested in Super Teams, but I’d love for solid players to start gravitating towards the Knicks. I player like Mitchell may have enough influence to start pulling players to MSG and make us contenders again.
1) Danny Ainge is notorious for asking for the moon in trades and not making trades if he doesn't get exactly what he wants.
2) Mitchell is under contract to Utah for a while.
3) Unless something changed, Mitchell hasn't asked for a trade so there's absolutely nothing pressuring Utah to deal him.
Knicks would have to throw a godfather offer out there and even then there's no reason for Utah to do it.
Aw ok gotcha. I’ve read about Mitchell being linked to the Knicks before. Seems this idea is an extreme long shot though. Thanks.
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suggests Detroit could potentially now offer Brunson a max sheet (Bridges and Ayton also mentioned)
That's what I thought when they opened up that cap space. I haven't watched much of the Pistons, but wonder how well Brunson and Cade would play together.
Brunson can play with anyone. Smart, tough and selfless player.
And then get rid of Randle any way you can. He slows down the offense on a team whose best players can run with anyone. Not to mention his pouting affects others.
It doesn’t feel like we have much of a farm to give up anyway.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but obviously:
Green's usefulness on a team that doesn't have Steph/Klay is greatly reduced
Knicks don't have anything resembling Steph/Klay
Draymond is an intelligent player who passes and defends with great acumen and energy. Randle is a highly inefficient player who plays with bad emotion that further worsens his efficiency.
Perhaps I am wrong about Sochan but I see a guy who is an ordinary athlete with subpar skills. His intangibles are his strength. But I think he caps out at a bench guy who provides a nice shot in the arm energy wise.
Whereas, I see Eason as having real (plus) physical ability.
Do you disagree on the Sochan assessment?
Sochan reminds me a lot of Al Horford, but younger coming into the league and with more upside handling the ball. While his 3 point numbers were poor, he’s got a good looking shot.
I didn't say no team in the NBA should draft anyone who can't shoot. I said the Knicks shouldn't draft anyone who can't shoot, based on their roster. They have two guys on their roster who have shown they can be a threat from behind the arc - Quickley and Grimes, and Quickley has proven to be very hot and cold. No opposing team fears either of them. If you trade Randle, the Knicks will have Barrett (not great from the 3), Toppin (not great from the 3), Robinson or Sims (insert laughter), Fournier (more hot and cold than Quickley), and an unnamed point guard.
So, if you can get a guy who can consistently shoot better than 40 percent from the arc, that's the most important ingredient this team needs. Hopefully it would come from a point guard, but those guys are incredibly rare. So in my mind you either take the best point guard available at 11 (which will likely be a reach and someone with limited shooting range) or you take the absolute best shooter on the board.
Adding complementary players like Brunson on a huge contract would be really dumb--or business as usual at MSG.
It's interesting that Knicks fans condemn management for making these type of short-sighted moves and then clamor for their own versions of them.
Knicks need to keep their young core together and continue to build through the draft until they have enough talent where adding a guy like Brunson can put them over the top. Otherwise they are doomed to remain stuck in this cycle of mediocrity.
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Perhaps I am wrong about Sochan but I see a guy who is an ordinary athlete with subpar skills. His intangibles are his strength. But I think he caps out at a bench guy who provides a nice shot in the arm energy wise.
Whereas, I see Eason as having real (plus) physical ability.
Do you disagree on the Sochan assessment?
Sochan reminds me a lot of Al Horford, but younger coming into the league and with more upside handling the ball. While his 3 point numbers were poor, he’s got a good looking shot.
Interesting
Jaden Ivey (obvious)
Jalen Duren
Shaedon Sharpe
Tari Eason
Note: Ousmane Dieng to me is Nic Batum (not a high upside guy to me)
Adding complementary players like Brunson on a huge contract would be really dumb--or business as usual at MSG.
It's interesting that Knicks fans condemn management for making these type of short-sighted moves and then clamor for their own versions of them.
Knicks need to keep their young core together and continue to build through the draft until they have enough talent where adding a guy like Brunson can put them over the top. Otherwise they are doomed to remain stuck in this cycle of mediocrity.
The counter to this is that picking 9-15 will probably never have their roster at this point you speak of. What they lack is difference-making talent, which is the hardest thing to find. Without an all star they are indeed doomed to hover around 40 wins.
The availability hasn't lined up to where they can trade for or draft that type of player, but no GM in the NBA has an eternally long leash to wait it out.
Jaden Ivey (obvious)
Jalen Duren
Shaedon Sharpe
Tari Eason
Jaden Hardy, mentioned above by Carl, would be a nice upside swing too.
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Jaden Ivey (obvious)
Jalen Duren
Shaedon Sharpe
Tari Eason
Jaden Hardy, mentioned above by Carl, would be a nice upside swing too.
Good addition. Kinda reminds me of Cam Thomas (picked by Nets last year).
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They are not on the cusp of being a contender.
Adding complementary players like Brunson on a huge contract would be really dumb--or business as usual at MSG.
It's interesting that Knicks fans condemn management for making these type of short-sighted moves and then clamor for their own versions of them.
Knicks need to keep their young core together and continue to build through the draft until they have enough talent where adding a guy like Brunson can put them over the top. Otherwise they are doomed to remain stuck in this cycle of mediocrity.
The counter to this is that picking 9-15 will probably never have their roster at this point you speak of. What they lack is difference-making talent, which is the hardest thing to find. Without an all star they are indeed doomed to hover around 40 wins.
The availability hasn't lined up to where they can trade for or draft that type of player, but no GM in the NBA has an eternally long leash to wait it out.
Steph Curry was drafted 7
Klay Thompson drafted 11
D. Mitchell drafted 13
Knicks need to put more emphasis on the draft and stop looking for the quick fix.
Brunson won 50 games playing alongside Doncic and Porzingas. What is he going to win playing alongside Randle and RJ?
Klay Thompson and Donovan Mitchell, you can have a discussion what the actual ceiling would be if they were the best player on a team and if that's enough to lead a team anywhere.
Klay Thompson and Donovan Mitchell, you can have a discussion what the actual ceiling would be if they were the best player on a team and if that's enough to lead a team anywhere.
No, DeMar Derozan was picked 9th. Curry was picked 7th. We picked Jordan Hill 8th.
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The Magic did well drafting Franz Wagner last year. They are about to take an L this year.
Nope. Banchero is soft as a feather.
The opposite
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They are not on the cusp of being a contender.
Adding complementary players like Brunson on a huge contract would be really dumb--or business as usual at MSG.
It's interesting that Knicks fans condemn management for making these type of short-sighted moves and then clamor for their own versions of them.
Knicks need to keep their young core together and continue to build through the draft until they have enough talent where adding a guy like Brunson can put them over the top. Otherwise they are doomed to remain stuck in this cycle of mediocrity.
The counter to this is that picking 9-15 will probably never have their roster at this point you speak of. What they lack is difference-making talent, which is the hardest thing to find. Without an all star they are indeed doomed to hover around 40 wins.
The availability hasn't lined up to where they can trade for or draft that type of player, but no GM in the NBA has an eternally long leash to wait it out.
Steph Curry was drafted 7
Klay Thompson drafted 11
D. Mitchell drafted 13
Knicks need to put more emphasis on the draft and stop looking for the quick fix.
Brunson won 50 games playing alongside Doncic and Porzingas. What is he going to win playing alongside Randle and RJ?
That's not the reason for getting him. The reason is that when you have a primary ball handler that is ill-equipped skill wise to do that job, emotionally unstable, inefficient (and any other description that fits Julius Randle), you ensure stunted development for all of the many young players on the roster including RJB and especially Obi. If they can somehow rid themselves of the Randle poison and get a lead guard that they haven't had in decades (in his prime, smart, competitive/tough, efficient) the whole roster benefits.
Great rec - really good player.
Lolwut? Are you seriously trying to suggest that Banchero is a tough player? You're nuts if you are.
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The opposite
Lolwut? Are you seriously trying to suggest that Banchero is a tough player? You're nuts if you are.
I’ve seen Paolo play in person since he was 15, and the league agrees.
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The Los Angeles Lakers acquired Orlando's pick at No. 35 for a future second-round pick and cash, sources tell ESPN.
They’re all in on trying to get Ivey or Sharpe but if they stay it’ll be Duren or Griffin
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Just because there’s a lot of interest league-wide in Monte Morris does not mean the #Nuggets are moving him. Source told me this morning it’s “highly unlikely” he’s getting traded tonight.
If you've been watching him play in person then it sounds more as if you have a personal affection or interest in him. He's massively talented and could be a great sidekick for a real star, but he'll never be a lead dog in the league.
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What are you hearing about tonight? Any updates?
They’re all in on trying to get Ivey or Sharpe but if they stay it’ll be Duren or Griffin
Oh, interesting. First I'm hearing of the Knicks being interested in Sharpe. Great news. Don't like Griffin that much, but I'm a fan of the former three players.
Post it, please! Haha, I want to hear what that one thing is!
Thanks for the info, by financial guys you mean the cap guys?
What would be the trade price for Sexton?
Dallas can offer more being the hometown team and probably will. I believe I have that right. The Knicks can throw the max at Brunson and still lose that battle.
Sounds like a smokescreen