Many of the recent Knicks rumors have lost some steam from a few days ago.
Do the Knicks put all their chips on the table, cutting a deal with the Kings for Jaden Ivey?
A possible Malcom Brogdon deal is said to not include the 11th pick.
Will the Knicks clear $25M in cap space to sign Jalen Brunson?
Where does Burks and Noel land if dealt?
Julius Randle is never in national trade rumors.
If NY stays at 11 and drafts AJ Griffin, how will he history of knee issues fair?
Dejounte Murray was rumored in a possible John Collins deal. This is something the Knicks should investigate.
A lot of Knicks fans on Twitter are down on Leon Rose and Co. Many stating that he is just taking care of CAA, family and friends.
We will have some more clarity in a few hours.
Dallas can offer more being the hometown team and probably will. I believe I have that right. The Knicks can throw the max at Brunson and still lose that battle.
I think it’s incredibly unlikely that Dallas maxes Brunson. They just want the Knicks (and others) to believe that they would. If the Knicks clear cap space for Brunson I bet they know there’s a good shot he’s taking it. This isn’t another Durant situation, his dad works for the team.
The Knicks were supposed to gear last offseason toward being able to sign Jalen Brunson this offseason? Calling that laughable seems... excessive.
I heard him say as of now he thinks they’ll stick at 4 but didn’t say it definitively unless this was elsewhere and something changed just now.
Even if they have a max slot, I'm still pretty sure the team that drafted you has the ability to offer you a higher max contract than other teams, is what I mean. Not really a question of budgeting from the Knicks POV.
Between NYS or NJ taxes and that, the odds may be against the Knicks.
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Knicks focused on creating cap space for Brunson
I heard him say as of now he thinks they’ll stick at 4 but didn’t say it definitively unless this was elsewhere and something changed just now.
i just read a tweet didnt hear it
Probably trying to figure how how they can bring back Riley.
How do you budget for a moving target? A couple of months ago, Brunson could not command the $$$ being discussed now.
If they were signing good players last summer, I'd live with it. But giving Kemba a second guaranteed year? Who were they bidding against? Seems like they could've mapped this out a little better.
Just post it. I'm pretty sure Woj isn't looking at New York Giants message boards for Knicks tidbits.
You have one hell of a fuse. I'm so beaten down by Knicks drafts I can't muster the energy to emote either way.
This year's FA class is pretty bad, except the one guy who intrigued them as a trade target, could not be dealt for, and exploded in the post season making him a bit more expensive than previously thought.
The mentality of last summer wasn't awful, just as with everything Knicks, it blew up in their face.
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Gave you some props before. Now I’ll hear shit for this but here it goes. Knicks have 3 financial guys figuring stuff out. All I know is they are working on only one thing so far today. I know nothing other than that. Not multiple stuff (not saying they won’t) but as of 2pm that is the case. I know it sounds like a tease and if I hear more I’ll let you know but that’s all I got. If you all don’t want to hear it I won’t post just trying to help.
Post it, please! Haha, I want to hear what that one thing is!
If you don't post more shit I will have to work. I don't want to work and i'm caught up anyway so please...save me from myself.
They seem to be operating under this mindset for the last 5 years or so. Don't want to label Rose and CO just yet but they seem hesitant to overpay, which can be both good and bad.
It's only an overpay if the guy you get isn't any good. I can't think of a single instance in sports history where the team that acquires the great legendary player gave up too much.
Vikings gave up too much for Hershel Walker but if Walker played in Minny for 5 years and put up 10000 all purpose yards while helping them win 5 straight Central titles? No one would be saying they gave up too much.
If the KNicks think the player is great, fucking do it already. If they sit back and wait for the perfect steal they will all be gone in 2 years or sooner.
I don't believe Knicks flotsam lands them Brogdon, injuries or not.
I think in the moment I would be a bit disappointed, but depending on what other moves come this summer it may not be the worst outcome.
Brogdon, when healthy, is clearly a better player than Burks and a starting caliber point guard. If Fournier is included in the deal, then drafting Griffin makes sense. Based on the small sample size of Duke games I have watched, and scouting reports I have read, he pretty much can come in and fill the role that Fournier did this past season. By that I mean, primarily a 4th option, high % 3 point shooter that can stretch the floor and play crappy defense. At $18 mil per year or whatever Fournier makes, that player is a bit underwhelming, but for a late lottery pick on a rookie deal it is a solid role player.
If they aren't able to make a deal with the Kings, I am hoping that after the fact there are leaks as to what each side was offering. Curious to hear how far apart they actually are.
Amusing. The vet contracts that were defended on the grounds they could be dealt for picks will instead cost draft position.
I think trading up a few spots for sharpe is our best outcome tonight. But more likely its staying at 11 and taking Griffin, who im indifferent to. Although reading this thread has def soured me on Griffin, lol.
@msinger
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Just because there’s a lot of interest league-wide in Monte Morris does not mean the #Nuggets are moving him. Source told me this morning it’s “highly unlikely” he’s getting traded tonight.
Harrison Wind
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Prospects that I'm told are in play for Denver at 21: Tari Eason (if he slides), MarJon Beauchamp, Dalen Terry, Blake Wesley. Also, the Monte Morris trade talk is very real, but only if it ends with the Nuggets upgrading their roster. Calvin Booth will be aggressive today.
What is “and co”????
That is a horrendous comparison. Knox shot 34% from 3 at UK.
That's exactly what happened. I understand hindsight is 2020 and they wanted to bring back a successful team but man was last offseason a mess...Rose has just completely mismanaged the enormous cap space he was gifted and failed to plan on Brunson...Hopefully he can still find a way to land him.
Do you guys think the 11th pick, dallas 2023 pick, IQ and another protected 1st gets the Kings to move back? Too much in your view?
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Sources: Kevin Durant is monitoring the Brooklyn Nets’ situation and considering options with his future.
This now opens the path for Kyrie Irving to proceed on finding a new home via opt-in and trade.
Where do I sign?
@ShamsCharania
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Sources: Kevin Durant is monitoring the Brooklyn Nets’ situation and considering options with his future.
This now opens the path for Kyrie Irving to proceed on finding a new home via opt-in and trade.
Randle and the Dallas pick for Durant? Lol
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Sources: Kevin Durant is monitoring the Brooklyn Nets’ situation and considering options with his future.
This now opens the path for Kyrie Irving to proceed on finding a new home via opt-in and trade.
Adrian Wojnarowski
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ESPN Sources: If Kyrie Irving can’t reach an agreement to stay with Brooklyn, he has a list of teams he’d like them to consider on sign-and-trades, including Lakers, Clippers, Knicks, Heat, Mavs and 76ers. None of those teams have cap space to sign him without Nets’ help.
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ESPN Sources: If Kyrie Irving can’t reach an agreement to stay with Brooklyn, he has a list of teams he’d like them to consider on sign-and-trades, including Lakers, Clippers, Knicks, Heat, Mavs and 76ers. None of those teams have cap space to sign him without Nets’ help.
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says no, Morris and 21 for Noel and 11?
Where do I sign?
Seems pretty fair to me tbh
Shams Charania
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Sources: Kevin Durant is monitoring the Brooklyn Nets’ situation and considering options with his future.
This now opens the path for Kyrie Irving to proceed on finding a new home via opt-in and trade.
But I thought these guys were gonna own the basketball scene in NYC for 5 years? Bummer...
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How happy would y'all be?
I don't believe Knicks flotsam lands them Brogdon, injuries or not.
I don't know. At this point, after you see what Grant was traded for, I don't know what Indiana could functionally hope for Brogdon. He's injured a lot and signed for 3 more seasons.
If Indiana is looking to get off salary and maybe they don't like the fit with Haliburton, they could figure it's addition by subtraction.
His numbers aren’t bad in the postseason, but he just doesn’t seem to make much of a difference. He doesn’t move the needle that much. Brunson had more of an effect on winning in the postseason than Morris ever has.
I wouldn’t do that trade.
Murray is back so Morris will be a backup for them, probably trying to sell "high", though he's been consistently solid his entire career.
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Why is Denver trying (or willing) to move him? To my eyes he's a good player who has good chemistry with Jokic
His numbers aren’t bad in the postseason, but he just doesn’t seem to make much of a difference. He doesn’t move the needle that much. Brunson had more of an effect on winning in the postseason than Morris ever has.
I wouldn’t do that trade.
Huge difference in cost though. Brunson is going to likely cost assets to move salary and then a contract in the $25M (maybe more) range
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Why is Denver trying (or willing) to move him? To my eyes he's a good player who has good chemistry with Jokic
His numbers aren’t bad in the postseason, but he just doesn’t seem to make much of a difference. He doesn’t move the needle that much. Brunson had more of an effect on winning in the postseason than Morris ever has.
I wouldn’t do that trade.
I mean.. yeah and? Brunson is going to get 20-25 million per season and maybe even a max contract, Morris is making Alec Burks money the next 2, I'd hope Brunson had more of an effect...
Brunson (obviously a better player) averaged 18, 5 and 5 on 46//41/68% shooting in THEIR loss to GSW
They also had a trade fall apart at the trade deadline that would've sent Burks/Reddish out for Goran Dragic's expiring contract - that would've helped, too. Reportedly it fell apart because the Knicks wanted an extra second rounder or something.
Anyway, I digress. This front office has a lot to prove. In the meantime I'll enjoy the Nets crashing and burning, even though Marks will rebuild another contender while we spin our wheels.