AAA Cahill
AA Valverde
A+ TBD
A Atencio
AAA
Vientos 2-3, 2 BB
Lee 0-2, 3 BB, K
Orze 1.1 innings 3 hits 1 run 0 walks 1 k
AA
McIIwain 2-4, 2B, 2 walks, K (nice)
Baty 3-4, HR, BB, K (.947 June OPS, slugging .529 with .418 OBP)
Mauricio 1-5, K (June OBP down to .274)
Senger 0-4 BB, 2 k's
Alvarez 0-2, 3 BB, K (if they continue to pitch around him, I expect a promotion to Syracuse within the next 2 weeks)
St. Lucie
Ramirez 1-4, BB, SB, K (struggling this month BUT 9 steals in 11 attempts)
ODLS 2-4, SB, K (39! steals)
Tilien 2-4, K
Dominguez 0-3, 2 k's
Diaz 1.1 innings 3 hits 3 runs 2 walks 2 k's (really struggling so far, very young)
Scott 4.1 innings 8 hits 3 er 0 walks 7 k's
Gomez 1.2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 4 k's (one to watch)
BK Palmer 0-2, BB, K
Newton 0-2 (average down to .161)
Vasil 6 innings 4 hits 1 run 0 walks 5 k's (Strong bounce back from his worst start)
Hartwig 1 perfect 2 k's
They do let them run a LOT more in St. Lucie than other teams in the organization. As to why, no idea.
Hoping Diaz gets things figured out.
Hoping Diaz gets things figured out.
I'm having a busy morning at work so I haven't had a chance to get around to FCL/DSL but yes Baez homered, Juan 2 hits 2b/SB (looks the part, I watched most of the game), Christopher Suero can REALLY throw from behind the plate. Hector Rodriguez 3 hits for the FCL Mets.
Oooh... good points here. Perhaps they protect Mauricio and allow Baty to continue raking through the deadline?
Barring injury, do the Mets have the roster capacity to absorb the promotions of those three prior to roster expansion?
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would kind of suck for Mauricio to lose all his protection and be the 1 guy left behind in AA so maybe they hold on Baty a little longer until they are sure Vientos isn't going back down? But I doubt that's much of a concern because they can share 3b/DH/1B. Baty has started a few games in LF too.
Oooh... good points here. Perhaps they protect Mauricio and allow Baty to continue raking through the deadline?
that would make sense. Vientos and Alvarez should both move soon, in the last few days Vientos has seemed to show more pitch selection and maybe that's something they are having him do to prepare for moving up? seeing both of them tested at a higher level pre-deadline is imo important because they could each factor in with the big club this year.
and you're 100% right, having Baty/Mauricio rake as best they can until the deadline is probably the right move.
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would kind of suck for Mauricio to lose all his protection and be the 1 guy left behind in AA so maybe they hold on Baty a little longer until they are sure Vientos isn't going back down? But I doubt that's much of a concern because they can share 3b/DH/1B. Baty has started a few games in LF too.
Barring injury, do the Mets have the roster capacity to absorb the promotions of those three prior to roster expansion?
you mean 2? Vientos/Alvarez?
Vientos right now yes. Plummer is still on the active roster I believe. I think they have 13 pitchers active too so if they want an emergency OF because they don't want to put mcneil out there banged up they could just send a pitcher down.
For Alvarez' spot, I'd be surprised if they don't trade 1 of Dom or JDD at the deadline. Not saying he'd get that spot right away, but in August if he's had 30-60 good days in AAA I think a real promotion will likely be maneuverable even if there aren't any injuries opening up spots.
Can't get rid of Escobar for Baty.
You could trade Dom to free up a spot for Vientos. I am fine just doing that and letting the others come up when rosters expand.
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would kind of suck for Mauricio to lose all his protection and be the 1 guy left behind in AA so maybe they hold on Baty a little longer until they are sure Vientos isn't going back down? But I doubt that's much of a concern because they can share 3b/DH/1B. Baty has started a few games in LF too.
Barring injury, do the Mets have the roster capacity to absorb the promotions of those three prior to roster expansion?
you mean 2? Vientos/Alvarez?
Vientos right now yes. Plummer is still on the active roster I believe. I think they have 13 pitchers active too so if they want an emergency OF because they don't want to put mcneil out there banged up they could just send a pitcher down.
For Alvarez' spot, I'd be surprised if they don't trade 1 of Dom or JDD at the deadline. Not saying he'd get that spot right away, but in August if he's had 30-60 good days in AAA I think a real promotion will likely be maneuverable even if there aren't any injuries opening up spots.
Yeah, if you keep Baty down. Alvarez or Vientos can replace Smith/Davis if traded. I guess they could stick with Marte, Canha, Nimmo in the OF and have McNeil as 4th OF. But I don't know if they want to do that.
Next year at this time, there is no way Dom and Davis are on the roster, so pretty sure one will be traded. In fact, there might not even be room for either.
C Alvarez
1B Alonso
2B McNeil
SS Lindor
3B Baty
OF Nimmo (hopefully)
Canha
Marte
DH Vientos
bench: Nido/McCann (trade one), Guillorme, Escobar, 4th OF (Plummer, Lee, Janikowski)
2. Marte
3. Lindor
4. Alonso
5. McNeil
6. Alvarez
7. Baty
8. Vientos
9. Canha
Keep the young guys down in the order until they earn their way up. Vientos behind Baty just to break up R L R. Canha at #9 acts as a second leadoff guy. Should have a nice OBP to be on for the top of the order.
Pretty, pretty good.
I was going to, but my kids touch everything and wife doesn't want them sick before vacation. July games are during heavy summer ballet season for daughter, so I may have to wait until September to head down.
Tomorrow is Jazz Chisholm bobblehead day, so be sure to get there early enough for that if you want one.
so the other active roster 'slots' available are:
9. Escobar (going nowhere but should shift into more of a platoon role until he picks it up)
10. Guillorme (key platoon guy who may overtake Escobar if trends continue)
11. JDD (has taken the most DH at bats so far but underwhelmed)
12. Dom (was supposed to be a near every day player but sucked)
13. backup OF - was Jankowski, currently Plummer
so in the near term Vientos should get slot 12 or 13 and longer term he could overtake either of Escobar/JDD. I'd have called him up instead of Dom, probably expecting Dom to get traded before the deadline if Vientos 'wins' that slot in the big leagues. if he struggled you swap them back in a month. if they are intent on keeping Dom up now, I'd still call him up for Plummer because Dom can just as easily be the emergency 4th OF. Even if they don't trust him in right he can play left with Canha in CF and Nimmo in RF. If that happens it's only due to injuries so the next day they'd be able to recall Plummer or Lee or Inciarte if necessary. Plummer has been an automatic out all month so he serves no purpose. if they trade for someone at the deadline i'd imagine it will be someone who can play OF and take slot #13, with #11 JDD or #12 Dom or both getting dealt out creating a spot for at least Vientos if he plays well enough to keep it.
down the line if Alvarez is ready i think it's a little early to worry about which spot gets created for him. all it takes is 1 injury to any of the 13 and he could be the answer since they have so much positional versatility. 6 weeks from now Vientos could start struggling and they decide they want him to get more time at AAA. It's a decision that's not worth projecting right now because there are a lot of pre-deadline variables that have nothing to do with him.
i think i'd go the opposite way if they can get 2 extra years to lock up his 33 + 34 and maybe a 5th year vesting option (which would be his age 35 season). I think that would be a pretty team friendly looking deal (4 years 50m plus an option?).
i think he's basically Zobrist 2.0 so his positional versatility and his ability to make contact should keep him from regressing too much as he ages.
if he's unreasonable in negotiations like conforto was then let him play out the deal he's on, but 2 years from UFA and being an overrager give him some incentives towards being reasonable.
Maybe we could buy out some arb years for McNeil? His game shouldn't really diminish much as he gets a little older and we keep him at 2B.
I know this is tough because they're so far away but what do you see as the upside for Tillen and Baez?
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McNeil but I'm with the Mets here (reportedly they have no plans to keep him long-term). He'll be a 33-year-old FA in 2 years and his body as is, is a major ??
Maybe we could buy out some arb years for McNeil? His game shouldn't really diminish much as he gets a little older and we keep him at 2B.
I know this is tough because they're so far away but what do you see as the upside for Tillen and Baez?
He's already arbitration-eligible. 2 years remaining and then he's a FA (he'll be 33 on the open market). I actually see him aging very poorly. He has a chronic hammy issue (left one) and "issues" with his legs that need to be monitored. Let him play out 2023 and 2024. Sure, if he's open to maybe a 2 year extension, but I'm not buying McNeil at 33 and beyond.
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McNeil but I'm with the Mets here (reportedly they have no plans to keep him long-term). He'll be a 33-year-old FA in 2 years and his body as is, is a major ??
Maybe we could buy out some arb years for McNeil? His game shouldn't really diminish much as he gets a little older and we keep him at 2B.
I know this is tough because they're so far away but what do you see as the upside for Tillen and Baez?
Both are bat first prospects with legit upside. That being said, if Baez is up before 4+ years from now it will be a major upset. Tilien.. what 3ish years? Mets have scouted MI extensively in this draft. Williams, Neto etc.
You're welcome. Any time.
so 4/50m would be buying out 2 FA years at $15m each. That seems like a very tough deal for McNeil to turn down and a fair enough price for the mets to take on the gamble.
so 4/50m would be buying out 2 FA years at $15m each. That seems like a very tough deal for McNeil to turn down and a fair enough price for the mets to take on the gamble.
Sure, but that's only a 2 year extension. He'd be 33 and 34. Would you really want to pay Jeff McNeil for 35-36-36, I know I wouldn't.
The more MI prospects the better that's for sure!
I stand with Eric on the McNeil thing. I think he strengthen the legs up and buy out a few years so he's secure until 35. I don't even know that it would cost an outrageous amount. Going to be interesting to follow.
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i don't know what his arb projections are the next 2 years but let's say it's 20m total over the 2 years. That may be high because Nimmo is only making $7m this year.
so 4/50m would be buying out 2 FA years at $15m each. That seems like a very tough deal for McNeil to turn down and a fair enough price for the mets to take on the gamble.
Sure, but that's only a 2 year extension. He'd be 33 and 34. Would you really want to pay Jeff McNeil for 35-36-36, I know I wouldn't.
I'd do 2 and a team or vesting option for the a35.
everyone has their own risk appetite but jeff mcneil's career earnings right now are $5m with nothing guaranteed from today forward except arbitration hearings.
if I were him and got offered $50m guaranteed i'd sign.
Canha got 2 years / 24m (12m AAV).
so guaranteeing McNeil 4 years with the back 2 pretty close to what Marte got as a UFA seems like a really fair deal for both sides, with the 2 arbitration years helping keep the overall 4 year cost and AAV down for luxury tax purposes.
a 12.5m AAV may not be that much higher than his arb costs the next 2 years.
Canha got 2 years / 24m (12m AAV).
so guaranteeing McNeil 4 years with the back 2 pretty close to what Marte got as a UFA seems like a really fair deal for both sides, with the 2 arbitration years helping keep the overall 4 year cost and AAV down for luxury tax purposes.
a 12.5m AAV may not be that much higher than his arb costs the next 2 years.
We are on the same page, but I wouldn't give him more than 2 years so if he's looking for a 5-6 year deal I'm completely out when he's fragile with chronic issues and under contract for 2 more.
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Marte just got a 4 year / 78m (19.5m AAV) as an unrestricted FA.
Canha got 2 years / 24m (12m AAV).
so guaranteeing McNeil 4 years with the back 2 pretty close to what Marte got as a UFA seems like a really fair deal for both sides, with the 2 arbitration years helping keep the overall 4 year cost and AAV down for luxury tax purposes.
a 12.5m AAV may not be that much higher than his arb costs the next 2 years.
We are on the same page, but I wouldn't give him more than 2 years so if he's looking for a 5-6 year deal I'm completely out when he's fragile with chronic issues and under contract for 2 more.
same. a vesting option for a 5th year based on playing time would be fine with me bc they can control that. i would think mcneil would feel pretty good about getting himself an overall deal size similar to Marte being in the leverage position he's in.
but for context that would be locking him in for basically half of what they were offering Conforto last year, also probably half of what they'd be willing to spend on Nimmo who is even more injury prone and athleticism dependent in CF.
Locking in McNeil and Alonso with Lindor and Marte for the next 4+ years would be a very solid core. I'd also think about locking in an extra year for Guillorme too because that would likely be very team friendly. Phase in Vientos, Baty, Alvarez, Marucio, Ramirez around them and fill in with Canha-like FAs.
They’d presumably have interest in other starters, as well, including his teammate Tyler Mahle, who they talked about in winter, and A’s star Frankie Montas, who they’ve scouted, too. Word is, the Twins (who acquired Sonny Gray from Cincinnati) and ultra-aggressive Padres (who wouldn’t seem to have rotational needs) also are in on Castillo, who has another year before free agency and should draw interest from every contender.
Mets’ list of MLB trade deadline targets includes Reds’ Luis Castillo - ( New Window )
Gary did not say whether he had heard that or just looked at the calendar and figured it out himself.
But it just makes a lot of sense in terms of time frame and also in kicking off the second half the right way (unlike last year).
Also, Degrom only made 15 starts last year. If you are thinking championship, Jake will make at least 4 starts in the postseason. So you don't want him making much more than 10-12 starts during the season.
Good sign that he was throwing 98-99 against live batters the other day.
Has shades of Tiki Barber feeling the need to publicly announce his retirement plans in 2006 during the season.
Keep your business private so it's not a distraction.
That said, if I'm the Mets I ride deGrom as much as possible while he's healthy because who knows a) if he'll be a Met next year or b) how long he'll be healthy
I'm pretty sure it was the latter...
Nice!
Great play by Walker to get out of the inning
And I can’t say it enough, Escobar has to go. He’s a zero at the plate and a poor defensive fielder. He’s losing games for the Mets.