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NFT: Mets Minors 6/24/2022

DanMetroMan : 6/24/2022 10:21 am
AAA Cahill
AA Valverde
A+ TBD
A Atencio

AAA
Vientos 2-3, 2 BB
Lee 0-2, 3 BB, K
Orze 1.1 innings 3 hits 1 run 0 walks 1 k

AA
McIIwain 2-4, 2B, 2 walks, K (nice)
Baty 3-4, HR, BB, K (.947 June OPS, slugging .529 with .418 OBP)
Mauricio 1-5, K (June OBP down to .274)
Senger 0-4 BB, 2 k's
Alvarez 0-2, 3 BB, K (if they continue to pitch around him, I expect a promotion to Syracuse within the next 2 weeks)

St. Lucie
Ramirez 1-4, BB, SB, K (struggling this month BUT 9 steals in 11 attempts)
ODLS 2-4, SB, K (39! steals)
Tilien 2-4, K
Dominguez 0-3, 2 k's
Diaz 1.1 innings 3 hits 3 runs 2 walks 2 k's (really struggling so far, very young)
Scott 4.1 innings 8 hits 3 er 0 walks 7 k's
Gomez 1.2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 4 k's (one to watch)



BK Palmer 0-2, BB, K
Newton 0-2 (average down to .161)
Vasil 6 innings 4 hits 1 run 0 walks 5 k's (Strong bounce back from his worst start)
Hartwig 1 perfect 2 k's

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Nice to see them knock around an ace on the road.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/24/2022 8:37 pm : link
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bad outing by Smith  
Vanzetti : 6/24/2022 9:15 pm : link
They bring you in with a three run lead and you walk three guys?

Ottavino bailed him out
Is Yacabonis a Lithuanian name?  
Vanzetti : 6/24/2022 9:30 pm : link
I know that is kind of random. But just wondering and likely someone here knows
Great W  
moze1021 : 6/24/2022 9:50 pm : link
Walker with the stopper performance and Lindor with huge hits.. love it.
Great throw by Tomas to nail Berti  
Vanzetti : 6/24/2022 9:54 pm : link
From his knees and perfectly placed
RE: Great throw by Tomas to nail Berti  
Eric on Li : 6/24/2022 9:57 pm : link
In comment 15740929 Vanzetti said:
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From his knees and perfectly placed


you said it - having catchers who can really throw the past couple years has made a big difference. that's a game that gets a lot more uncomfortable without good defense behind diaz.

big to get a W against Alcantara.
It seemed like decades that we could not throw out a base stealer.  
BigBlueNH : 6/24/2022 10:25 pm : link
Especially cringe-worthy when Noah was pitching. Sure is nice to be able cut down our share now.
Not a vintage performance by Walker but he got the outs  
CooperDash : 6/24/2022 10:54 pm : link
when he needed them. A bad Marlins error really bailed out the Mets offense but you take what you can get against Alacantra. All in all, great to get the win. Especially with a Braves loss.
Interesting point ..  
moze1021 : 6/24/2022 10:56 pm : link
The Lindor double is a home run in 4/30 parks...

His HR? Only a HR in this stadium. Wouldn't have gotten out of the other 29 parks.
RE: RE: Great throw by Tomas to nail Berti  
Vanzetti : 6/24/2022 11:20 pm : link
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From his knees and perfectly placed



you said it - having catchers who can really throw the past couple years has made a big difference. that's a game that gets a lot more uncomfortable without good defense behind diaz.

big to get a W against Alcantara.


Alcantara is really good. A ground ball pitcher who can throw his fastball 100 mph? Not too many of those around.
I don't think Buck puts up with guys who don't hold runners  
Vanzetti : 6/24/2022 11:23 pm : link
Diaz threw over to 1B twice. Not something you see most closers do. But it probably made the difference in Berti being out. He was an inch from being safe
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Eric on Li : 6/25/2022 10:02 am : link
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From his knees and perfectly placed



you said it - having catchers who can really throw the past couple years has made a big difference. that's a game that gets a lot more uncomfortable without good defense behind diaz.

big to get a W against Alcantara.



Alcantara is really good. A ground ball pitcher who can throw his fastball 100 mph? Not too many of those around.


yeah watching him pitch has definitely continued to push me towards the aggressive end for either of montas/castillo because without JDG they don't have a SP with pure heat like that and they are both very similar profiles to Alcantara. Montas is sitting at 96 on his FB this year with 48% Gbs and Castillo is 96 mph at 50% with a 53% career GB rate.

Alcantara is 55% this year which is above his career average of 49%, but the other 2 also generate more k's.

imagine how perfectly a pitcher anywhere close to alcantara would fit in between Scherzer and Bassitt. just a totally different look.
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moze1021 : 6/25/2022 2:37 pm : link
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From his knees and perfectly placed



you said it - having catchers who can really throw the past couple years has made a big difference. that's a game that gets a lot more uncomfortable without good defense behind diaz.

big to get a W against Alcantara.



Alcantara is really good. A ground ball pitcher who can throw his fastball 100 mph? Not too many of those around.


It's what Big Pelf could have and should have been before the Mets messed him up. When he first came up dude was throwing 98mph sinkers that were dropping off a ledge..
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Rory : 6/25/2022 3:35 pm : link
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From his knees and perfectly placed



you said it - having catchers who can really throw the past couple years has made a big difference. that's a game that gets a lot more uncomfortable without good defense behind diaz.

big to get a W against Alcantara.



Alcantara is really good. A ground ball pitcher who can throw his fastball 100 mph? Not too many of those around.



It's what Big Pelf could have and should have been before the Mets messed him up. When he first came up dude was throwing 98mph sinkers that were dropping off a ledge..


refresh my memory on how they messed him up.

He was one of my favorites coming up, was so pissed how they handled him.

Barely even had a career.
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Mike in NY : 6/25/2022 3:37 pm : link
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From his knees and perfectly placed



you said it - having catchers who can really throw the past couple years has made a big difference. that's a game that gets a lot more uncomfortable without good defense behind diaz.

big to get a W against Alcantara.



Alcantara is really good. A ground ball pitcher who can throw his fastball 100 mph? Not too many of those around.



It's what Big Pelf could have and should have been before the Mets messed him up. When he first came up dude was throwing 98mph sinkers that were dropping off a ledge..



refresh my memory on how they messed him up.

He was one of my favorites coming up, was so pissed how they handled him.

Barely even had a career.


Peterson had him completely abandon the sinker and wanted him to pitch like Mulder/Hudson
some promising news on JDG and a good article from gammons  
Eric on Li : 6/25/2022 3:39 pm : link
re: the deadline.

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Jacob deGrom threw a 20 pitch live batting practice in Port St Lucie today against Mets minor league hitters that went well. He will likely need at least one more live BP before being evaluated for a rehab assignment


It's sounding unlikely Bednar gets moved but interesting about the A's including Andrus' contract in a potential trade. I'd be all over that if i was cohen because that's a real differentiator. I'd tell Oakland and Cincinnati im willing to take either Andrus or Minor $ fully off their hands, with a top prospect going their way, and the first one ready to deal saves the $. Andrus wouldn't have a role so you could either DFA him like Cano or IL him.

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Montas makes $5 million, isn’t a free agent until 2024, and while Beane and Forst don’t want to trade him, if that’s ownership’s call. Between the number of good, large-market teams shopping, they can trade for what they want, not focus on what the owner wants. Now, that may include taking the remainder of Elvis Andrus’ $13 million contract, but Montas is a multi-prospect deal.

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Castillo isn’t a free agent until 2024 as well, makes $7.35 million and while Cincinnati may be a small market, Reds fans aren’t used to bottom-feeding and they aren’t over some ill-timed comments by ownership. They have Hunter Greene, Nick Lodolo, Alexis Diaz and Chase Petty for big, young arms, plus shortstop Elly de la Cruz. Castillo is tempting enough for a rich team to take a contract and forget the tax threshold. For Castillo to partner with Chris Bassitt, Scherzer and deGrom in New York, the Steve Cohen Tax is a parking ticket. He has assistants to take care of those.

Gammons: Yankees, Dodgers et al are obvious buyers, but mid-tier sellers have decisions to make - ( New Window )
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Vanzetti : 6/25/2022 7:42 pm : link
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From his knees and perfectly placed



you said it - having catchers who can really throw the past couple years has made a big difference. that's a game that gets a lot more uncomfortable without good defense behind diaz.

big to get a W against Alcantara.



Alcantara is really good. A ground ball pitcher who can throw his fastball 100 mph? Not too many of those around.



It's what Big Pelf could have and should have been before the Mets messed him up. When he first came up dude was throwing 98mph sinkers that were dropping off a ledge..



refresh my memory on how they messed him up.

He was one of my favorites coming up, was so pissed how they handled him.

Barely even had a career.



Peterson had him completely abandon the sinker and wanted him to pitch like Mulder/Hudson



Remember when Peterson said he could "fix Victor Zambrano in ten minutes"?

He also wanted Heath Bell to abandon the high fastball and keep everything down.

What a disaster. Hired by Brewers after being fired by the Mets and then fired a year later and has never worked again as a pitching coach.
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