So, I’m looking to buy new clubs. I am a high handicap and am 64y/o. I had this sway in my swing that I finally have conquered. I wa shooting 110-115 and now shooting 100-103. Anyway I plan on getting fitted as I did last time about 10 years ago. I hear good things about PXG, however, they are very expensive. Is there a clubs that are comparable to PXG that are cheaper?
TIA
I’m dying to try a stealth driver. But the Sim 2 Driver, fairway wood, and rescue are still the best I’ve ever had.
Other DTC don’t really have the all around polish that the PXG folks are providing to the consumer, with basically no wait times. For top value, get the fitting and then wait a little bit for their used store to populate and find your clubs. Either way, PXG may price some of their range really high, but they will be reduced very quickly one way or the other, and they do have “cheap” clubs as well that play great like the 0211 line.
Not everyone is a pro like you.
I went from struggling to break 100 to shooting in the 80's
The clubs don't make a 15 stroke difference the swing does
What is the point of belittling someone?
I shoot around 90, and for me it was worth it to pay for a professional fitting, knowing I'd keep the clubs for about 10 years. I could probably use a new set, as my swing is slowing down, but in retirement it's too much of a luxury on my very limited income.
I shoot around 90, and for me it was worth it to pay for a professional fitting, knowing I'd keep the clubs for about 10 years. I could probably use a new set, as my swing is slowing down, but in retirement it's too much of a luxury on my very limited income.
This just isnt true for everyone. You dont have to get fitted
I went from struggling to break 100 to shooting in the 80's
The clubs don't make a 15 stroke difference the swing does
I agree. That’s why I mentioned that I have finally got rid of my sway which of course caused me to hit the ground before I hit the ball. That’s why I’m thinking since it’s been like 10 years since my last clubs the technology has improved. The wife is also incouraging me to get new clubs( yeah I picked a winner) yes, I plan on getting fitted.
Go get fitted by all means, but you should be considering clubs from the major manufacturers -- plenty of quality and variety to be found to suit your needs.
Go get fitted by all means, but you should be considering clubs from the major manufacturers -- plenty of quality and variety to be found to suit your needs.
You are thinking the original PXG plan which had extremely expensive clubs as they chased he high end players. Now the 0211s are about $79 per club. You can get one of the drivers for $279 and that is cheap and it is a very good driver. Gen 3s are about $129 per club - which is actually inexpensive compared with major manufacturers.
BTW, we have a load of "senior" players(60s to 80s) with PXGs with handicaps from 4 to 15. I am using a set of 0211 after having had Callaway XR2s and Taylor Made M4s. I am an 8/9.
There is nothing wrong with getting fitted. Yes mitch probably needs lessons more than anything. But the two can go hand and hand.
There are lots of decent forgiving clubs out there. Srixon irons, Callaway Big Bertha fairway wood/hybrids. Ping 425 driver and woods/hybrids.
You can also go the the Callaway used club website. Very good 2nd hand clubs there in all price ranges.
Whatever you get, enjoy the time outside and play well!
Besides, it's easy to get done, you will actually learn a few things about your swing and probably get a few free tips along the way while you're getting fitted.
Doesn't mean you have to break the bank when buying golf clubs or forego a lesson here and there.
Good luck...
You must be a popular guy to hang out with at the country club...
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And still shooting 110-115?
You must be a popular guy to hang out with at the country club...
He’s the guy who shows up at 6 and gets out as a single..miraculously his card is filled with birdies and eagles…
😆
The 0211 z hybrids are similar to Cleveland’s hybrid launcher series and are perfect for beginners or people who just want to play, and you can go up in skill level from there.
PXG is a very different beast today than a couple years ago.
And my point always was not to waste money of fancy clubs and fittings when he needs either lessons or listen to his buddies if they are decent golfers and take those tips to the range and practice
Most of the advancements are in the players distance category anyway and that doesn’t align with your current handicap. You should be focused on super and ultra game improvement designs that appeal to your eye. The dimensional characteristics of these designs (lower vertical center of gravity, further from the heel horizontal center of gravity, higher MOI, more forgiving sole/camber/bounce which leads to better turf interaction, etc) will most help your game.
From there, based on your swing speed and total club weight preferences, you can focus on what type of shaft you need. This is a rabbit hole and where a fitting becomes very beneficial.
I’d recommend researching DTC club designers (Maltby, Wishon, Sub70, New Level, Haywood, etc) Educate yourself. Doesn’t take long. Find an iron design you like the look of and is suitable for your skill level. Then go spend $100-300 on a fitting.
As someone said before, it’ll not only help isolate a shaft, total weight, swing weight and flight characteristics, it’ll help you learn more about what helps dial in your strike patterns. You can then take your “specs” from the fitting and have a fitter or one of the DTC companies build your set to your specs.
In the end, you’ll likely still be under the cost of an off the rack OEM set. You’ll have brand new, high quality and high performing clubs fit to your swing. With the additional money you saved, go and get a lesson(s). I also recommend going to Adam Young’s website and checking out his different lesson packages. For $60, you can get his Strike Plan course for life and he’s currently including a 30 day free trial of his Next Level Golf material. It’s awesome eye opening stuff that is very easy to follow and implement.
Tldr: Don’t go blow multiple grand on name brand equipment. Do some research and invest in the total package for the same cost.
Might be something I look into. What's involved in the process?
Might be something I look into. What's involved in the process?
Golf Galaxy is a place. PGA Store is another. There are local fitters depending on where you live, also.
The process can be short or much more complicated. You cannot likely complete a full bag fitting in one seesion as driver, fairway woods/hybrids and irons are their own entity, including wedges. Yes it can be done, but will not be as comprehensive. Places like Golf Galaxy will have you swing a club(if an iron fitting), mostly likely a 7 or maybe 6 iron. Collect data from about 10 swings. They will probably ask what your budget is. Note your club speed and ball speed. Assess which general level of shaft fits your swing speed(senior, regular, stiff, etc). Then once the shaft flex is determined, they will try various heads(and perhaps shafts) to gauge what looks good to you and what delivers the best performance for your ability, swing speed and ball flight. This is likely also to include swing weight and actual weight of the clubs and it can get much more complicated from there. The fitter is looking for the best combination of distance, accuracy, ball flight that is likely to improve your game. And do not let anybody tell you a proper fitting doesn't make a difference. If you have the wrong shafts it can cause the ball to balloon or conversely be worm burners. Same thing with the actual club head. The wrong weight can cause you to swing incorrectly. If you played baseball think of the weight of the bat you used. Did you use a 30 or 31 oz bat or a 35 oz bat. Was it 32 inches or 36 inches. Was the handle thick or thin(more weight in the head or handle?) A decent fitter will be able to determine the best combination of shaft and head to complement your game so that you are not over-swinging or under-swinging.
As noted it is about $100(+) for a fitting and many times that cost will be deducted from the set you buy if you buy through that store.
As I said, it can get much more complicated if you go through specific club groups in your bag. Each additional session(should you chose to do so) is its own cost(as to driver, wood/hybrid and iron fittings).
IMHO, if you have the time and play enough, it is worth getting fitted. If you play very few rounds per year, it likely isn't worth it.
I have watch these guys for a couple years. I am fascinated by the physics and mechanics involved.
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Depending on your location, you may decide a particular fitter is better than another. And a strong preference for grass over indoor. When picking the fitter, see what they’ve got on offer. A TXG/Club Champion will have every head and shaft possible, and a PXG will have many shafts and only PXG heads.
Back to pxg specifically 90 min for the full bag is short but it’s $50 and if you don’t spend much time on the putter, that’s 30/30/30 (or whatever breakdown) for driver/FW-hy/irons-wedges, plus the most important data, your generic attributes.
mitch300, I have a set of PXG irons and really like them. As mentioned above their price points can vary a good amount so do your research there.
mitch300, I have a set of PXG irons and really like them. As mentioned above their price points can vary a good amount so do your research there.
Yes, it can get overly complicated and I was trying not to go there. I think the standard fitting at a major company will be enough to help the weekender and high handicapper.
Simply getting the proper shaft flex can help their game. Most people couldn't tell what their swing speed is and which shaft fits that speed.
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be overly complicated although some make it out to be. I am a single digit and still filter out some of what I think is overdone. Do recommend it though if getting back into game after a while or turning over a set of irons or woods. Just common sense for any type of golfer these days.
mitch300, I have a set of PXG irons and really like them. As mentioned above their price points can vary a good amount so do your research there.
Yes, it can get overly complicated and I was trying not to go there. I think the standard fitting at a major company will be enough to help the weekender and high handicapper.
Simply getting the proper shaft flex can help their game. Most people couldn't tell what their swing speed is and which shaft fits that speed.
Exactly.
https://ralphmaltby.com/what-is-my-mpf-rating/
4 easy questions.
What club is your 150 club?
What are you trying to gain? Distance, control, or both?
What is your preferred trajectory?
Do you have a ball flight error to correct? Hook or slice?
Once you get your rating (mine is 4.5C2M) you can then search their database to narrow down the endless options to what matches you.
https://ralphmaltby.com/golf-shaft-ratings/
After all that nerdy fun, then you can move into MPF ratings for iron heads.
I am scheduled to do a fitting soon to look at my hybrids and fairways to make sure the gaps after my 5i make sense. I will probably look to keep my G25 hybrid and 5w head, and replace an old Cleveland hybrid that I'm using to bridge 5i to G25 hybrid.
I feel like the ball moves too much right to left with these clubs when I'm hitting my irons and driver well, and I'd wager the standard Ping TFC-189.S shafts are not getting it done.
All of the above to explain why I think it's really important to get fitted, and to make sure the effort is made to find the best shaft for you.
Many say, and I agree, that the most important thing to keep track of for mid/high handicapers is a simple list:
-Penalty strokes (including having to punch out)
-Missed greens while chipping or out of the bunkers
-Three-putts
I'd say anytime a shot is wickedly fat or thin and you're still hitting a full swing approach, its a subcategory of a penalty.
How you approach elimination of these 4 items is pretty key to gettin better. How did you do it? What do you need to do to get to bogey golf?
Many say, and I agree, that the most important thing to keep track of for mid/high handicapers is a simple list:
-Penalty strokes (including having to punch out)
-Missed greens while chipping or out of the bunkers
-Three-putts
I'd say anytime a shot is wickedly fat or thin and you're still hitting a full swing approach, its a subcategory of a penalty.
How you approach elimination of these 4 items is pretty key to gettin better. How did you do it? What do you need to do to get to bogey golf?
Great question. For an example, I would hit my t shot equal or better than the guys who I golf with. They shoot low 90’s mid to high 80’s. My second shot I would hit with my hybrid because of the sway I would hit behind the ball and hit the ground before the ball instead of the opposite. So, of course I could top the ball or it just didn’t have distance. Very so often I would hit correctly and the ball would go high and far. I also realize as a high handicap capper I’m not going to be consistent. My reason for starting this thread was to ask about new clubs that I have been wanting to get. However, I was not going to buy new clubs until I got rid of the sway. No point in that. Since I have finally rid of the sway and believe me I have taken numerous lessons from different teachers and it just finally clicked.
As soon as my instructor reminded me that the trail hip goes towards the target going back, I hit behind the ball way less.