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Eli chimes in on Daniel Jones at the Manning Passing Academy

Ben in Tampa : 6/25/2022 2:48 pm
Video at the link.

Eli briefly talks about his QB Camp and his thoughts on Jones

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By my fifth year, I had been in the same offense the whole time, I knew it, I could coach it up, new guys are coming in, I was speaking the same language as my offensive coordinator and as Coach Coughlin, and kind of preaching the same stuff, and with [Jones], it’s all new, and it’s learning, and he’s consistently trying to learn and learn and learn, and it just takes some time before it all sinks in.”


… I think it’s worth pointing out that by Eli’s fifth year, he was already a 1x Super Bowl Champion and MVP.
Eli Interview - ( New Window )
A ringing endorsement if I ever have heard  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/25/2022 3:08 pm : link
one.
Between Shurmur, Garrett and Judge  
Spiciest Memelord : 6/25/2022 3:22 pm : link
The wiring in Jone's head is probably too scrambled to fix.
I'm waiting  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/25/2022 4:03 pm : link
for Go Terps/bw in dc to chime in with "here come the excuses."

;)
Hey it’s late June. It’s glass half full for me  
Payasdaddy : 6/25/2022 4:06 pm : link
Rooting for jones bigtime.
Think his ceiling is top 14
Idk if that’s good enough to move forward with but that’s what the season is for.
Good health on offense sure wouldn’t hurt.
I think he will have a mildly surprising pretty good yr, similar to yr 1 with less turnovers.
Eli being nice  
uther99 : 6/25/2022 4:09 pm : link
as usual. Jones sucks
What Eli said is true  
arniefez : 6/25/2022 4:22 pm : link
no one can dispute that. Jones has also had about the worst OL in the NFL every game he's played. It's difficult to dispute that. The question is if Jones had been drafted by a good team with the same coaches and system his first 3 years would he still be a bottom 3rd of the league QB.

I'm pretty sure everyone who posts here has made up their minds one way or another on Jones. Game 1 2022 is 78 days away.
Just gotta give Jones 5 more years  
widmerseyebrow : 6/25/2022 4:30 pm : link
:)
And I think its worth pointing out  
Ron from Ninerland : 6/25/2022 4:39 pm : link
that by his fifth year, Eli was still on his first HC and only his second OC.
RE: A ringing endorsement if I ever have heard  
joeinpa : 6/25/2022 4:46 pm : link
In comment 15741152 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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one.


Anything stated by Eli not true? It s certainly not an advantage to be safe n his 3 rd offense in 5 years.
Jones will get his trial by fire soon enough. No matter what we've  
Ira : 6/25/2022 4:48 pm : link
thought up to this point, let's just wait a little longer and see how it turns out.
joeinpa.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/25/2022 5:08 pm : link
No. All true. My comment was somewhat tongue in cheek, as if...what do we think Eli is going to say? Haha.
RE: I'm waiting  
Des51 : 6/25/2022 5:20 pm : link
In comment 15741176 Eric from BBI said:
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for Go Terps/bw in dc to chime in with "here come the excuses."

;)


I wonder how many of these guys in the video post on BBI
New York Giants Draft Daniel Jones Giants Fan Reaction Compilation - ( New Window )
Jones is terrible  
Optimus-NY : 6/25/2022 6:29 pm : link
End of story.
RE: I'm waiting  
chick310 : 6/25/2022 6:33 pm : link
In comment 15741176 Eric from BBI said:
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for Go Terps/bw in dc to chime in with "here come the excuses."

;)


You’re going to wait a long time for Go Terps. He sounded like he’s done, at least for awhile.
RE: Jones is terrible  
Spiciest Memelord : 6/25/2022 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15741236 Optimus-NY said:
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End of story.


Who needs Goterps.
RE: RE: Jones is terrible  
joeinpa : 6/25/2022 6:41 pm : link
In comment 15741240 Spiciest Memelord said:
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End of story.



Who needs Goterps.


Lol
RE: RE: I'm waiting  
adamg : 6/25/2022 6:43 pm : link
In comment 15741238 chick310 said:
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In comment 15741176 Eric from BBI said:


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for Go Terps/bw in dc to chime in with "here come the excuses."

;)



You’re going to wait a long time for Go Terps. He sounded like he’s done, at least for awhile.


What happened this time?
...  
christian : 6/25/2022 7:15 pm : link
5th year? Are we just giving up on the 4th preemptively?
Pocket  
thrunthrublue : 6/25/2022 10:31 pm : link
Awareness, seems lacking. Jones offers no resemblance to the game’s greats, what he lacks in potential, he makes up with high percentages of turnovers and no apparent upside like most of the players DG drafted. If he invested his signing monies wisely, he will have a great life after football.
RE: And I think its worth pointing out  
Brick72 : 6/25/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15741210 Ron from Ninerland said:
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that by his fifth year, Eli was still on his first HC and only his second OC.
Right. It's fascinating reading the posts who don't accept how multiple coaches in 5 years will mess up anyone's trajectory but just condemn Daniel Jones' progress. I'm not a Jones' believer -- he needs to read and release to his receivers better without hesitation. But I do give him the fact that multiple (not overly great) offensive managers can't have helped his development. Give him steady guidance; focus on thought, delivery, and ball protection. Jones will be okay in that scenario. Daboll may be that guy.

Do this and Jones will at least carry the team to respectability and they can draft a better QB when one is available.
The writing is on the wall  
SirLoinOfBeef : 6/25/2022 11:58 pm : link
for Jones.

Nothing short of a Herculean performance can save his position on this team moving forward.
I really hope that Jones can't play in the first game so that everyone  
Marty in Albany : 6/26/2022 12:03 am : link
can see how much better Jones is compared to our other QBs.

I don't think the Giants will win a lot of games this year even with Jones, but I think that BBIers will see that Jones is far from the worst starting QB in the NFL.
RE: RE: I'm waiting  
Klaatu : 6/26/2022 6:59 am : link
In comment 15741223 Des51 said:
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In comment 15741176 Eric from BBI said:


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for Go Terps/bw in dc to chime in with "here come the excuses."

;)



I wonder how many of these guys in the video post on BBI New York Giants Draft Daniel Jones Giants Fan Reaction Compilation - ( New Window )


Begins with The Entertainah, and Baddog shows up at 3:37 or so. I didn't recognize anyone else.
RE: I really hope that Jones can't play in the first game so that everyone  
SGMen : 6/26/2022 7:10 am : link
In comment 15741345 Marty in Albany said:
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can see how much better Jones is compared to our other QBs.

I don't think the Giants will win a lot of games this year even with Jones, but I think that BBIers will see that Jones is far from the worst starting QB in the NFL.
I agree that Jones is our best QB, much better than Taylor whose a known commodity and can carry a team for a bit if needed but is no NFL starter and his career shows it.

The "best case" for the Giants is that they stay very healty with Thomas, Glowinski, Neal, Jones, Barkley, Toney, Shepard and Galloday (big WR redzone target) stay healthy on offense and defense Williams, Lawrence, Thibs, Martinez, Jackson, McKinney, Ojulari staying healthy as well. These are our key guys, I think, and must stay healthy for a shot at 9-8 as our schedule is weak.

But if we win say 6 games only losing a lot of close ones early due to a new system and not meshing yet well we get a Top 10 pick QB cause that means Jones walks perhaps to a decent UFA contract that lands us a #3 comp pick. Same for Barkley. Why spend big money on guys who haven't brought you wins? 9 - 8 we may keep Jones if he is the reason we are winning.
Eli is not going to throw anyone under a bus, least of all Jones.  
Klaatu : 6/26/2022 8:32 am : link
I don't know why anyone would expect anything else.
RE: RE: And I think its worth pointing out  
widmerseyebrow : 6/26/2022 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15741331 Brick72 said:
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Right. It's fascinating reading the posts who don't accept how multiple coaches in 5 years will mess up anyone's trajectory but just condemn Daniel Jones' progress. I'm not a Jones' believer -- he needs to read and release to his receivers better without hesitation. But I do give him the fact that multiple (not overly great) offensive managers can't have helped his development. Give him steady guidance; focus on thought, delivery, and ball protection. Jones will be okay in that scenario. Daboll may be that guy.

Do this and Jones will at least carry the team to respectability and they can draft a better QB when one is available.


Any consideration on how Jones' play has contributed to being on his third HC?
RE: RE: RE: And I think its worth pointing out  
FStubbs : 6/26/2022 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15741452 widmerseyebrow said:
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In comment 15741331 Brick72 said:


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Right. It's fascinating reading the posts who don't accept how multiple coaches in 5 years will mess up anyone's trajectory but just condemn Daniel Jones' progress. I'm not a Jones' believer -- he needs to read and release to his receivers better without hesitation. But I do give him the fact that multiple (not overly great) offensive managers can't have helped his development. Give him steady guidance; focus on thought, delivery, and ball protection. Jones will be okay in that scenario. Daboll may be that guy.

Do this and Jones will at least carry the team to respectability and they can draft a better QB when one is available.



Any consideration on how Jones' play has contributed to being on his third HC?


At the point Jones was hurt last year, Judge was a shoo-in for a third year. So I'd say - at least as far as Judge is concerned - Jones' play had no impact on Judge being let go.
RE: I'm waiting  
ColHowPepper : 6/26/2022 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15741176 Eric from BBI said:
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for Go Terps/bw in dc to chime in with "here come the excuses."
;)

Ha! GT's abject 2nd minion beat you to it by almost an hour, SFGFNCGiantsFan

I'm no dyed in the wool DJ supporter by any means: he has so much to prove to show he can improve his game. Obviously a make or break season, and it seems most of BBI, hell, even mittenedman is on that bandwagon, is hoping like hell he breaks, like Humpty Dumpty. But, by default, discounting the 'excuses' to zero weight is pretty crazy, as if they are of no force or effect whatsoever.

I think even more than seeing DJ prove wrong those who have buried him as total bust--and I am the farthest anyone can be from a DG apologist: I revile the man and his regime as GM, and I believe that a good deal of the hatred of Jones may be those posters' conflating hatred of DG--I'd love to see these cocksure posters proven wrong.
Got it, that’s why we should hope Jones does well  
Jimmy Googs : 6/26/2022 6:37 pm : link
spite...
ColHowPepper.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/26/2022 6:42 pm : link
I'm GT's 'minion'? Ha. I've been called a lot in life, but that's a first.

I don't dislike DJ. Again, he seems like a good kid & a hard worker from all accounts who puts in the time to succeed. And I hope he does! I hope he becomes an elite QB in this league. I just don't see it happening & I think the odds of it occurring are slim to none.
RE: I'm waiting  
GF1080 : 6/26/2022 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15741176 Eric from BBI said:
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for Go Terps/bw in dc to chime in with "here come the excuses."

;)


Didn't a mod run Go Terps away? That's unfortunate.
RE: And I think its worth pointing out  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/26/2022 9:35 pm : link
In comment 15741210 Ron from Ninerland said:
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that by his fifth year, Eli was still on his first HC and only his second OC.

QBs ruin coaches' reputations just as often as the other way around.
RE: RE: And I think its worth pointing out  
GF1080 : 6/26/2022 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15741765 Gatorade Dunk said:
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that by his fifth year, Eli was still on his first HC and only his second OC.


QBs ruin coaches' reputations just as often as the other way around.


This is spot on. Daniel Jones is a coach killer. Quick sand if you will. Let's hope Schoen/Daboll understand this and move on quickly when they can.
RE: RE: RE: I'm waiting  
Maryland Blows : 6/26/2022 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15741245 adamg said:
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In comment 15741176 Eric from BBI said:


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for Go Terps/bw in dc to chime in with "here come the excuses."

;)



You’re going to wait a long time for Go Terps. He sounded like he’s done, at least for awhile.



What happened this time?


There is no way we could be that lucky!
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm waiting  
Jimmy Googs : 6/26/2022 11:27 pm : link
In comment 15741788 Maryland Blows said:
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In comment 15741238 chick310 said:


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In comment 15741176 Eric from BBI said:


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for Go Terps/bw in dc to chime in with "here come the excuses."

;)



You’re going to wait a long time for Go Terps. He sounded like he’s done, at least for awhile.



What happened this time?



There is no way we could be that lucky!


Why don’t you like Maryland?
RE: RE: And I think its worth pointing out  
broadbandz : 6/27/2022 12:26 am : link
In comment 15741765 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15741210 Ron from Ninerland said:


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that by his fifth year, Eli was still on his first HC and only his second OC.


QBs ruin coaches' reputations just as often as the other way around.


So right bro, Judge and Shurmur are lighting up the league now that they have been freed of Jones.
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