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Shepard, Toney, Robinson on New Offensive Scheme

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/27/2022 12:12 pm
Giants.com interviews...

John Schmeelk is joined by the Giants wide receivers to talk about their development and adjusting to a new offensive scheme.

00:00 Start
00:41 Sterling Shepard
07:14 Darius Slayton
12:56 Kadarius Toney
19:33 CJ Board
25:38 Wan'Dale Robinson
Giants Wide Receivers: Sterling Shepard, Kadarius Toney, Wan'Dale Robinson on New Offensive Scheme - ( New Window )
these  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/27/2022 12:59 pm : link
were all good interviews...

good stuff. Toney sounds like an okay kid. Lets hope he can stay  
Victor in CT : 6/27/2022 1:45 pm : link
healthy and show what he can do. He was electrifying in the DAL and NO games. Too bad that was it.
The more I hear, the more I think this has the look of a WCO style  
Ivan15 : 6/27/2022 1:46 pm : link
Offense. Pre-snap motion. QB throws to his first read with one second choice. If play breaks down, TE or RB are 3rd level checkdowns.
RE: The more I hear, the more I think this has the look of a WCO style  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/27/2022 1:58 pm : link
In comment 15742050 Ivan15 said:
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Offense. Pre-snap motion. QB throws to his first read with one second choice. If play breaks down, TE or RB are 3rd level checkdowns.


It's where Jones had the closest thing to success in his young career. Might as well. Shurmur's offense emphasized the first read as well.

Player that struggles with seeing the field quickly, might be the best path forward.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/27/2022 2:03 pm : link
IMO, Schmeelk is the best Giants interviewer out there. He has a knack for making the guest feel comfortable combined with asking quality questions.
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Victor in CT : 6/27/2022 2:12 pm : link
In comment 15742060 Eric from BBI said:
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IMO, Schmeelk is the best Giants interviewer out there. He has a knack for making the guest feel comfortable combined with asking quality questions.


agree. he has a nice way about him.
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MNP70 : 6/27/2022 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15742060 Eric from BBI said:
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IMO, Schmeelk is the best Giants interviewer out there. He has a knack for making the guest feel comfortable combined with asking quality questions.


He is good. I like Lance Medow also
Quite the interview with Toney  
Jimmy Googs : 6/27/2022 2:44 pm : link
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With interviews  
Kev in Cali : 6/27/2022 3:47 pm : link
It's the normal blah blah coach/player talk. This interview actually spoke some insight into what the offense may be like. Def one of the better listens out there.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/27/2022 4:08 pm : link
In comment 15742068 MNP70 said:
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In comment 15742060 Eric from BBI said:


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IMO, Schmeelk is the best Giants interviewer out there. He has a knack for making the guest feel comfortable combined with asking quality questions.



He is good. I like Lance Medow also


Lance Meadow is good too. The two of them have done a really good job this offseason.
After seeing some of his colllege highlights ....  
Manny in CA : 6/27/2022 4:40 pm : link

I'd like to see a whole-lot-more of Kadarius in the backfield as a HB. Next to Saquon I think he's the best option. He's the best combination of quick, fast and agile. He's a Reggie Bush prototype.

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on youboob
Spotify link - ( New Window )
RE: Quite the interview with Toney  
Del Shofner : 6/27/2022 5:35 pm : link
In comment 15742077 Jimmy Googs said:
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He said some interesting things about WR options too ... not sure I followed it. Part sounded like pre-arranged variations of route depending on where/how the DB is lined up, and part sounded like "winging it" (I think that's what he said.). Can't say I listened to the whole thing. Anyone else have a take on this?
RE: RE: Quite the interview with Toney  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/27/2022 6:26 pm : link
In comment 15742221 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 15742077 Jimmy Googs said:


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He said some interesting things about WR options too ... not sure I followed it. Part sounded like pre-arranged variations of route depending on where/how the DB is lined up, and part sounded like "winging it" (I think that's what he said.). Can't say I listened to the whole thing. Anyone else have a take on this?


Yes, it's similar to the Kevin Gilbride option routes. They talk about this in the other interviews.
Really interested to see how this WR core shakes out  
Breeze_94 : 6/28/2022 12:46 am : link
But first and foremost need guys to stay healthy

I think Toney and Robinson lead the team in targets.

Using the buffalo WR corps last year (and I know this isn't a perfect comp as things will change based on personnel)

Toney plays the Diggs role (8-9 targets/gm)
Wan'Dale plays a combo of McKenzie/Beasley's role (5-6 targets, 1 rush per game)
Golladay plays the Gabe Davis deep threat role (4-5 targets/gm)
Shep/Slayton combine for an Emmanuel Sanders role (5 targets/gm). Sanders was a combo of deep threat (Slayton) and posssion (Shep)

RB's/TE's get around 10-12 targets/gm in Buf offense last year. I'd expect similar volume here, but more skewed towards RB here.

RE: Really interested to see how this WR core shakes out  
csb : 6/28/2022 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15742485 Breeze_94 said:
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But first and foremost need guys to stay healthy

I think Toney and Robinson lead the team in targets.

Using the buffalo WR corps last year (and I know this isn't a perfect comp as things will change based on personnel)

Toney plays the Diggs role (8-9 targets/gm)
Wan'Dale plays a combo of McKenzie/Beasley's role (5-6 targets, 1 rush per game)
Golladay plays the Gabe Davis deep threat role (4-5 targets/gm)
Shep/Slayton combine for an Emmanuel Sanders role (5 targets/gm). Sanders was a combo of deep threat (Slayton) and posssion (Shep)

I think you are right but the wild card here is Saquon. I expect him to be heavily utilized in the passing game (5-7 touches/game) and would not be surprised if he breaks 1,000 receiving yards. He's a high risk/reward guy right now but if they scheme to get the ball to him in space where he can be 1-1 with a DB/LB I think he could have a huge year. Unlike his rookie year where everyone knew Saquon was getting ball, hopefully scheming the speed/quickness of Toney and Wan'Dale can create enough confusion to create some exciting mismatch opportunities for all three.

RB's/TE's get around 10-12 targets/gm in Buf offense last year. I'd expect similar volume here, but more skewed towards RB here.
RE: Really interested to see how this WR core shakes out  
csb : 6/28/2022 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15742485 Breeze_94 said:
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But first and foremost need guys to stay healthy

I think Toney and Robinson lead the team in targets.

Using the buffalo WR corps last year (and I know this isn't a perfect comp as things will change based on personnel)

Toney plays the Diggs role (8-9 targets/gm)
Wan'Dale plays a combo of McKenzie/Beasley's role (5-6 targets, 1 rush per game)
Golladay plays the Gabe Davis deep threat role (4-5 targets/gm)
Shep/Slayton combine for an Emmanuel Sanders role (5 targets/gm). Sanders was a combo of deep threat (Slayton) and posssion (Shep)

RB's/TE's get around 10-12 targets/gm in Buf offense last year. I'd expect similar volume here, but more skewed towards RB here.


Oops - sorry for the mistake post.

I think you are right but the wild card here is Saquon. I expect him to be heavily utilized in the passing game (5-7 touches/game) and would not be surprised if he breaks 1,000 receiving yards. He's a high risk/reward guy right now but if they scheme to get the ball to him in space where he can be 1-1 with a DB/LB I think he could have a huge year. Unlike his rookie year where everyone knew Saquon was getting ball, hopefully scheming the speed/quickness of Toney and Wan'Dale can create enough confusion to create some exciting mismatch opportunities for all three.
That was a solid set of interviews  
D HOS : 6/28/2022 5:01 pm : link
Interesting and informative without giving too much away.

But seriously, one of these things is definitely not like the others. He's his own cat and that usually is a good thing, but in this specific, not so much.
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