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AG5686 : 6/27/2022 6:33 pm
Here is my question of the day....which of these 3 people will be on the Knicks roster come October 2022??
Mitch Robinson,Julius Randle,Jalen Brunson.....
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Begely said  
nygiants16 : 6/28/2022 1:54 pm : link
he has heard Knicks will be active beyond jist Brunson..hope so team needs trimming down
Dallas has no use for Randle  
GNewGiants : 6/28/2022 1:59 pm : link
They just signed Wood. Randle and Wood as your front court defenders is asking Luka to put up 50 a game.
RE: RE: not sure if im in the minority...  
Italianju : 6/28/2022 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15742817 Section331 said:
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but id have little interest in giving ayton a max deal at 35 mill per or whatever it is. He is a good player, but he seems like embiid lite to me. And is embiid lite the best player on a good time? Cause at 35 mill he better be.



Yes, Embiid can be the best player on a championship team, his biggest issue has always been health. If you knew Ayton would be as good as Embiid, $35M is a steal, I just have y doubts that Ayton will be THAT good.


I said he is Embiid lite....not embiid. If he was embiid id have no problem paying him.
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Anakim : 6/28/2022 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15742816 bceagle05 said:
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zach
@_917zach

Fred Katz: “I get the sense that Dallas is very frustrated with the Knicks front office”



Welcome to the club
Begely says  
nygiants16 : 6/28/2022 2:20 pm : link
People in the front office view Brunson as a valuable piece that will move the Knivks forward but not franchise altering, believes more moves are coming on top of Brunson..

Said he is not sure if Knicks have talked to spurs but scouts have told him they view Brunson and Murray a good fit together
RE: Fred Katz says  
Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15742775 nygiants16 said:
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the knicks have inquired with other teams about Julius Randle trades

Not sure if you just saw this on twitter or listened to it but worth mentioning he made it clear that this was just to gauge what his value was around the league and the Knicks do this with most of their players (also pointed out that it's something that all competent organizations do)
DAL  
31southst : 6/28/2022 2:30 pm : link
Dallas can be frustrated all they want but if I were them, I would be frustrated I could have signed JB for 4/55 and chose not to in the name of flexibility for something that never happened.
RE: DAL  
Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 2:31 pm : link
In comment 15742866 31southst said:
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Dallas can be frustrated all they want but if I were them, I would be frustrated I could have signed JB for 4/55 and chose not to in the name of flexibility for something that never happened.

So true! They made their own bed and if Brunson signs here have to lie in it
RE: RE: RE: not sure if im in the minority...  
Section331 : 6/28/2022 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15742844 Italianju said:
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In comment 15742817 Section331 said:


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In comment 15742758 Italianju said:


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but id have little interest in giving ayton a max deal at 35 mill per or whatever it is. He is a good player, but he seems like embiid lite to me. And is embiid lite the best player on a good time? Cause at 35 mill he better be.



Yes, Embiid can be the best player on a championship team, his biggest issue has always been health. If you knew Ayton would be as good as Embiid, $35M is a steal, I just have y doubts that Ayton will be THAT good.



I said he is Embiid lite....not embiid. If he was embiid id have no problem paying him.


Totally missed that, although I'd put Ayton at Embiid-super lite.
Begley said Knicks considering converting Sims to full deal and sign  
Heisenberg : 6/28/2022 2:56 pm : link
the fat dookie to a 2-Way in his place. Would fit with moving Noel this week.
haha...  
Italianju : 6/28/2022 2:56 pm : link
yeah i prolly would to.
Hopefully all the flirting Mitchell is doing  
larryflower37 : 6/28/2022 2:57 pm : link
Pays off. Looks like he went to dinner with Quickley last night.
Need to keep building assets and not waste them on mediocre talent
Speaking of Mitchell  
nygiants16 : 6/28/2022 2:59 pm : link
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
Boston Celtics assistant Will Hardy is closing in on deal to become the next head coach of the Utah Jazz, sources tell
@TheAthletic

@Stadium
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Bryant stays and it looks like Ainge went with someone he knew
I  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2022 3:27 pm : link
get the "why" but the Celtics getting a solid player like Burks for a trade exception seems like a steal for them
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widmerseyebrow : 6/28/2022 3:48 pm : link
In comment 15742845 Anakim said:
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zach
@_917zach

Fred Katz: “I get the sense that Dallas is very frustrated with the Knicks front office”





Welcome to the club


Hahaha
Burks  
31southst : 6/28/2022 4:00 pm : link
Burks would be a good fit for the C's and if the Knicks don't need to give up anything, it could work for everyone. The Knicks definitely benefit from only needing to get rid of one of Burks/Noel so they can just take the first good offer.
RE: I  
Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 4:07 pm : link
In comment 15742947 DanMetroMan said:
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get the "why" but the Celtics getting a solid player like Burks for a trade exception seems like a steal for them

Totally agree. Just a guess, but I'm thinking the reason Burks is still here is that the Knicks are pushing to get something in return for him
Stein  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2022 4:29 pm : link
says the Mavs are resigned to the fact they will be losing Brunson.
Tucker  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2022 4:33 pm : link
headed to the Sixers, 3 for 30
RE: Stein  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/28/2022 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15742990 DanMetroMan said:
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says the Mavs are resigned to the fact they will be losing Brunson.


Sucks for them.
Mavs  
31southst : 6/28/2022 4:37 pm : link
At what point do they bow to the obvious and negotiate a S&T with the Knicks. Given the context, Burks going back beats the alternative of nothing. Of course at this point, that might cost them something. I would ask them to remove the protections on this years pick or go from top 10 to top 4 - basically role the dice Luka sprains an ankle or something.
RE: Stein  
Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 4:37 pm : link
In comment 15742990 DanMetroMan said:
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says the Mavs are resigned to the fact they will be losing Brunson.

Lowe said on his podcast that execs he's spoken with have said they think the Mavs would need to outbid the Knicks by $5M/year to keep Brunson and then there was this from a Dallas media guy

Kevin Turner
@ktfuntweets
"I think it's a 99% chance that Jalen Brunson ends up with the Knicks"- @skinwadea few minutes ago on @BenandSkin on 97.1 The Eagle @theeagledallas

Certainly seems like things are falling into place
RE: Mavs  
Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15742996 31southst said:
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At what point do they bow to the obvious and negotiate a S&T with the Knicks. Given the context, Burks going back beats the alternative of nothing. Of course at this point, that might cost them something. I would ask them to remove the protections on this years pick or go from top 10 to top 4 - basically role the dice Luka sprains an ankle or something.

They probably are already (or will soon) but if it were to get out the league probably dock the Knicks a second round pick which is what happened when the Bucks did that with the Kings and Bogdanovic two years ago
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djm : 6/28/2022 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15742816 bceagle05 said:
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zach
@_917zach

Fred Katz: “I get the sense that Dallas is very frustrated with the Knicks front office”

Then states that he heard from multiple sources that Dallas was very angry that Leon, Wes, and Julius showed up to their playoff game vs Utah.


Well boo fucking hoooo...


The NBA has been trolling the Knicks (literally) for 20 years now. IF I am the Knicks I am doing anything and everything dirty but legal to gain talent. The NBA can fuck the hell off...twice.
That's a big chunk of change....  
guitarguybs12 : 6/28/2022 4:49 pm : link
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Tim MacMahon
@espn_macmahon
At this point, it's widely anticipated that Jalen Brunson will go to the Knicks on a four-year deal in excess of $100M. It remains to be seen how New York will clear the rest of the necessary cap space and whether the Mavs can work a sign-and-trade to recoup assets.
With all the reports today this seems like one of those FA deals  
Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 4:50 pm : link
done deals leaking out that'll happen as soon as the window opens a la Lonzo last year


Tim MacMahon
@espn_macmahon
At this point, it's widely anticipated that Jalen Brunson will go to the Knicks on a four-year deal in excess of $100M. It remains to be seen how New York will clear the rest of the necessary cap space and whether the Mavs can work a sign-and-trade to recoup assets.
Zubac  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2022 5:09 pm : link
remains a clipper 3 for 33
RE: Zubac  
Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15743023 DanMetroMan said:
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remains a clipper 3 for 33

Good comp for Robinson's next contract
Fischer  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2022 5:23 pm : link
reporting the Brunson deal is reportedly "more than" 100 over 4. Not even knocking Brunson, but damn is he getting paid... "more than" 25 million per season.
RE: Fischer  
nygiants16 : 6/28/2022 5:25 pm : link
In comment 15743031 DanMetroMan said:
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reporting the Brunson deal is reportedly "more than" 100 over 4. Not even knocking Brunson, but damn is he getting paid... "more than" 25 million per season.


I read somewhere its possible Knicks do a descelated deal
more reporters jumping in  
Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 5:27 pm : link

tim cato
@tim_cato
i'll add to the chorus: the Mavericks have had a belief for at least the past couple weeks, multiple sources tell me, that Jalen Brunson would sign with the Knicks. at this point, it's seen as a certainty.
If  
g56blue10 : 6/28/2022 5:29 pm : link
Brunson really does sign with us, the one pick I would be hesitant to trade is the Mavericks pick. If like we’re to miss any significant time that could be a top of the lottery pick
im still on the fence on brunson....  
Italianju : 6/28/2022 5:31 pm : link
but he is def an upgrade. HOpefully there will be other dominoes to go with him. Lets hope his best ball is ahead of him!
RE: If  
g56blue10 : 6/28/2022 5:32 pm : link
In comment 15743041 g56blue10 said:
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Brunson really does sign with us, the one pick I would be hesitant to trade is the Mavericks pick. If like we’re to miss any significant time that could be a top of the lottery pick


Luka
Brunson contract seems pretty fair to me.  
bceagle05 : 6/28/2022 5:35 pm : link
Twenty-nine other teams hand him the same deal and probably get their asses kissed for it.
RE: If  
Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 5:36 pm : link
In comment 15743041 g56blue10 said:
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Brunson really does sign with us, the one pick I would be hesitant to trade is the Mavericks pick. If like we’re to miss any significant time that could be a top of the lottery pick

It's top 10 protected but I think it's possible as part of a sign and trade the Mavs remove the protections on it. With the protections now, it's challenging for them to make deals involving 1st rounders given the uncertainty. Removing the protections would give them more flexibility to replace Brunson's production.
RE: RE: Zubac  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2022 5:37 pm : link
In comment 15743029 Strahan91 said:
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remains a clipper 3 for 33


Good comp for Robinson's next contract


Fred Katz
@FredKatz
Meanwhile, this is an important market-setting deal for free-agent centers in this range. The Knicks have one of those…
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adamg : 6/28/2022 5:37 pm : link
In comment 15743005 djm said:
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zach
@_917zach

Fred Katz: “I get the sense that Dallas is very frustrated with the Knicks front office”

Then states that he heard from multiple sources that Dallas was very angry that Leon, Wes, and Julius showed up to their playoff game vs Utah.



Well boo fucking hoooo...


The NBA has been trolling the Knicks (literally) for 20 years now. IF I am the Knicks I am doing anything and everything dirty but legal to gain talent. The NBA can fuck the hell off...twice.


Amen.
RE: RE: If  
g56blue10 : 6/28/2022 5:38 pm : link
In comment 15743046 Strahan91 said:
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In comment 15743041 g56blue10 said:


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Brunson really does sign with us, the one pick I would be hesitant to trade is the Mavericks pick. If like we’re to miss any significant time that could be a top of the lottery pick


It's top 10 protected but I think it's possible as part of a sign and trade the Mavs remove the protections on it. With the protections now, it's challenging for them to make deals involving 1st rounders given the uncertainty. Removing the protections would give them more flexibility to replace Brunson's production.


That’s my bad then. I didn’t think it was protected
Good news sounds like coming our way  
adamg : 6/28/2022 5:40 pm : link
Pleasant surprise.
im not mitch's biggest fan..  
Italianju : 6/28/2022 5:42 pm : link
but 3/33, sign me up.

Brunson is a starting caliber player on a good team. We need those. Are we paying for it, sure, but this does feel like a solid deal. We see 25 per and its sticker shock, but the stars are making 40 mill now.

No fucking way this happens.  
guitarguybs12 : 6/28/2022 5:51 pm : link
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Knicks Videos
@sny_knicks
"Teams do not think Jalen Brunson is the last move for the Knicks. Opposing teams see Brunson and Dejounte Murray as an attractive fit in the backcourt."
If you  
DanMetroMan : 6/28/2022 5:52 pm : link
read the actual piece there is no real indication they are even considering that at all.

"As far as adding another player, New York would have the draft capital to put together a package for San Antonio’s Spurs' Dejounte Murray. According to Bleacher Report, the Atlanta Hawks and Spurs have had talks surrounding Murray. I don’t know if the Knicks have touched base with San Antonio, but rival executives see Murray and Brunson as a strong fit, for what it’s worth. "
Begely says  
nygiants16 : 6/28/2022 5:54 pm : link
Opposing teams believe Knicks are not done and Brunson is just the first move, also says opposing teams say they think a Murray and Brunson backcourt would be a good fit..

I agree it would be a good fit but i dont see how that would fit with Rj
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Strahan91 : 6/28/2022 5:56 pm : link
In comment 15743058 DanMetroMan said:
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read the actual piece there is no real indication they are even considering that at all.

"As far as adding another player, New York would have the draft capital to put together a package for San Antonio’s Spurs' Dejounte Murray. According to Bleacher Report, the Atlanta Hawks and Spurs have had talks surrounding Murray. I don’t know if the Knicks have touched base with San Antonio, but rival executives see Murray and Brunson as a strong fit, for what it’s worth. "

They could be that mystery Eastern Conference team reported earlier today but I'm skeptical too. It just doesn't seem like a Leon and Co. move to go all in on Brunson and Murray vs keeping your draft powder dry for a Donovan Mitchell or another superstar who could become available in the next year or so. But who knows, they haven't made enough bigger moves to really gauge their thought processes.
Comment by Mike Francessa on Twiiter. I totally agree.  
Ira : 6/28/2022 5:59 pm : link

Mike Francesa
@MikeFrancesa
There is no denying the talent of Kyrie Irving. But I wouldn't have him on my team for free.
in theory if you trade for Murray....  
Italianju : 6/28/2022 6:04 pm : link
and a star comes on the market that we feel is better it would open you up to be able to include Murray, or brunson, or even RJ. Yes those guys would come with be contracts (although Murray not for another year) but they could have value to a team who has a star forcing there way out but dont want to blow it up completely. And even if you traded 3-4 firsts for Murray we would still have a bunch of firsts.

Im clearly a murray fan, its a high cost, but i like the idea of adding brunson and Murray. Its def more talent, but is there enough shooting.
RE: in theory if you trade for Murray....  
TommyWiseau : 6/28/2022 6:12 pm : link
In comment 15743063 Italianju said:
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and a star comes on the market that we feel is better it would open you up to be able to include Murray, or brunson, or even RJ. Yes those guys would come with be contracts (although Murray not for another year) but they could have value to a team who has a star forcing there way out but dont want to blow it up completely. And even if you traded 3-4 firsts for Murray we would still have a bunch of firsts.

Im clearly a murray fan, its a high cost, but i like the idea of adding brunson and Murray. Its def more talent, but is there enough shooting.


Eh, I am not sure how I feel with a Murray and Brunson duo. Murray just does not shoot well enough. With Randle and RJ being inconsistant shooters I could see us losing a lot of winnable games if they are off
RE: Begely says  
widmerseyebrow : 6/28/2022 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15743059 nygiants16 said:
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Opposing teams believe Knicks are not done and Brunson is just the first move, also says opposing teams say they think a Murray and Brunson backcourt would be a good fit..

I agree it would be a good fit but i dont see how that would fit with Rj


Would San Antonio want RJ?
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/28/2022 6:46 pm : link
I think I would rather have RJ than Murray going forward. But that's me.
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