Here is my question of the day....which of these 3 people will be on the Knicks roster come October 2022??
Mitch Robinson,Julius Randle,Jalen Brunson.....
“ Knicks also could operate as "over cap team" and retain full non-taxpayer MLE if Kemba, Burks, Noel lumped into one big 3-way sign-and-trade with Dallas for Brunson. Looks like Knicks could even start Brunson at $24.25M or less and generate a $9.2M TPE for Kemba.”
How much cap space do we have now, when we release Gibson will we be at $36 million? Are we giving all of that to Brunson, I hope not. Maybe Boston will take Fournier and 2 seconds for their trade exception
How much cap space do we have now, when we release Gibson will we be at $36 million? Are we giving all of that to Brunson, I hope not. Maybe Boston will take Fournier and 2 seconds for their trade exception
No, i am sure there is more coming
Knicks are offering 4 yr $100MM to brunson
Yeah and Knicks opened up close to 38 million if they release Taj
He's covering up his mistakes from last year. He's the one who signed Kemba, Burks and Noel and is now trading away assets to make up for those signings.
Who's to say we won't be in the same boat this time next year?
He's covering up his mistakes from last year. He's the one who signed Kemba, Burks and Noel and is now trading away assets to make up for those signings.
Who's to say we won't be in the same boat this time next year?
Burks was a solid player for us..sad to see him go
Noel.was fantastic during the playoffs...injuries made him expendable
Kemba was just a bad move...only out I give Rose was we needed a PG and Kemba was the only one available...
But his contract wasn't bad
We are in a much much much better place now than last year
The man has cleared $30plus million in cap space...
Chris Haynes
@ChrisBHaynes
When free agency opens on Thursday, the New York Knicks are expected to present Jalen Brunson a four-year offer in the vicinity of $110 million, league sources tell @YahooSports.
But I guess it would be costly to trade him. They should definitely waive Gibson.
And I still hope we trade Randle. And at this point, what is Reddish's value? If it's that low, we might as well keep him and see if he can improve.
Fournier was a big disappointment...but he played lights out in the Olympics right before we signed him...last year not so much
Cam got hurt...lets see with him
Chris Haynes
@ChrisBHaynes
When free agency opens on Thursday, the New York Knicks are expected to present Jalen Brunson a four-year offer in the vicinity of $110 million, league sources tell @YahooSports.
I bet it winds up being 4 for $100M with $10M in very difficult to achieve bonuses
Chris Haynes
@ChrisBHaynes
When free agency opens on Thursday, the New York Knicks are expected to present Jalen Brunson a four-year offer in the vicinity of $110 million, league sources tell @YahooSports.
Clients.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
Clients.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
Fournier has 1 yr left..I hope we get Brunson and Murray
U down with that backcourt??
Clients.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
You realize like half the league is CAA right?
you also realize Brunson will be the 14th highest paid PG in the NBA? 25 million a year is nothing for a atarting PG in todays NBA
Clients.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
You realize like half the league is CAA right?
you also realize Brunson will be the 14th highest paid PG in the NBA? 25 million a year is nothing for a atarting PG in todays NBA
Especially for position we so desperately need...he is a rising star
Clients.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
You realize like half the league is CAA right?
you also realize Brunson will be the 14th highest paid PG in the NBA? 25 million a year is nothing for a atarting PG in todays NBA
Oh I get it and he is not a top half PG for 27.5 million and doesn't make this team more than 4 or 5 games better.
Not a difference maker at all and everyone is expecting a big leap which I don't see happening.
Enjoy your moment I just don't see.
If we could pair up Brunson and Murray in the backcourt
That could potentially be the best backcourt we've had since Clyde and Pearl, and Murray defends 1's too. I tend to disagree with holding out for and waiting around for Mitchell or some other star to finally shake loose. If Murray is truly gettable, I'd go all in with the draft capital (at least 2 of them will have to be our picks). If you keep RJ, and Obi than that's a nice rotation. How long are we supposed to sit around waiting for a star to shake loose? Murray is up and coming and we don't even have to pay him the mega bucks for this season and next.
Clients.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
You realize like half the league is CAA right?
you also realize Brunson will be the 14th highest paid PG in the NBA? 25 million a year is nothing for a atarting PG in todays NBA
Oh I get it and he is not a top half PG for 27.5 million and doesn't make this team more than 4 or 5 games better.
Not a difference maker at all and everyone is expecting a big leap which I don't see happening.
Enjoy your moment I just don't see.
I think you're fooling yourself if you don't think a legitimate starting PG doesn't make the team 4-5 games better. It's not a coincidence that Randle had his big year playing off Rose at PG.
It's also not a coincidence that Rose missed 60 games and the Knicks were significantly worse off for it. And this is late career running on fumes, shouldn't be playing starter minutes Rose.
Knicks are not done, still shopping Fournier and Reddish, they are also looking to add on top of adding Brunson, said there were rumblings around the league about Knicks and Murray but wasnt sure about the fit since Brunson is coming to the Knicks to be the makn ball handler...
Also said Mitch is expected back 4 years 60 million, i would guess some of that is incentives
If he signs with Knicks
Brunson will be a significant improvement at PG for Knicks. He has really improved the last couple of years for the Mavs. He was a baller in playoffs this season.
do the Knicks work with the Mavs on a sign and trade? Do the mavs take on some salary or do they want just a trade exception? If it is just a trade exception, i am asking for them to remove the protections off the 23 pick
do the Knicks work with the Mavs on a sign and trade? Do the mavs take on some salary or do they want just a trade exception? If it is just a trade exception, i am asking for them to remove the protections off the 23 pick
Honestly if I am Dallas, I’d strongly consider bringing back Fournier in a sign and trade. As time goes on that contract gets easier for them to flip for something else, and at least you’re getting a solid player rather then losing Brunson for nothing while as a luxury tax team basically not being able to do anything to replace him. As a guy that made a high number of 3s on pretty good percentages, Fournier is certainly overpaid, but still a solid player.
do the Knicks work with the Mavs on a sign and trade? Do the mavs take on some salary or do they want just a trade exception? If it is just a trade exception, i am asking for them to remove the protections off the 23 pick
Honestly if I am Dallas, I’d strongly consider bringing back Fournier in a sign and trade. As time goes on that contract gets easier for them to flip for something else, and at least you’re getting a solid player rather then losing Brunson for nothing while as a luxury tax team basically not being able to do anything to replace him. As a guy that made a high number of 3s on pretty good percentages, Fournier is certainly overpaid, but still a solid player.
They can have Fournier...Ill even throw in a free milk bone
Knicks are not done, still shopping Fournier and Reddish, they are also looking to add on top of adding Brunson, said there were rumblings around the league about Knicks and Murray but wasnt sure about the fit since Brunson is coming to the Knicks to be the makn ball handler...
Also said Mitch is expected back 4 years 60 million, i would guess some of that is incentives
I get the sentiment there but Murray is nowhere near as ball dominant as Luka is. His usage was a career high last year but still pales in comparison to Luka’s and was more so by necessity than anything else
I would not at all be surprised if the Brunson contract is descending, which would mean it starts at 29 if the total is 4/110. Also the KFS guys mentioned this could be a positive for both sides if JB ends up with a player option on the last year.
As for Mitch, 4/60 sounds like a big overpay to me. That said, we need to remember to wait until details come out for everything based on how last year went. I can see it being announced 4/60 with 10 in unlikely bonuses and the last year non-guaranteed, so it really ends up being more like 3/36.
I would not at all be surprised if the Brunson contract is descending, which would mean it starts at 29 if the total is 4/110. Also the KFS guys mentioned this could be a positive for both sides if JB ends up with a player option on the last year.
I agree that it’ll probably be descending. I mentioned this above but I also think it’s likely to be 4 for $100M with $10M in incentives that are essentially unreachable. The media will report the sticker price which is what CAA wants but it’ll really be 4 for $100M. Just a hunch
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How much cap space do we have now, when we release Gibson will we be at $36 million? Are we giving all of that to Brunson, I hope not. Maybe Boston will take Fournier and 2 seconds for their trade exception
No, i am sure there is more coming
Knicks are offering 4 yr $100MM to brunson
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In comment 15743235 GMEN46 said:
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How much cap space do we have now, when we release Gibson will we be at $36 million? Are we giving all of that to Brunson, I hope not. Maybe Boston will take Fournier and 2 seconds for their trade exception
No, i am sure there is more coming
Knicks are offering 4 yr $100MM to brunson
Yeah and Knicks opened up close to 38 million if they release Taj
Keep Randle
Ditch Mitch and sign Deandre Jordan
Get Harden or Conley
Whaaaatttt
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Sign Brunson
Keep Randle
Ditch Mitch and sign Deandre Jordan
Get Harden or Conley
Whaaaatttt
Read my post after that. You’ll get it then.
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In comment 15743141 GNewGiants said:
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Sign Brunson
Keep Randle
Ditch Mitch and sign Deandre Jordan
Get Harden or Conley
Whaaaatttt
Read my post after that. You’ll get it then.
Haaaaa...sorry I didn't see that..
You southpaws stick together
Lmaoooooo
Wait 2nds are valuable when we get them but trash when we give them away?
Thanks
We got 3 second round picks by taking Ed Davis into cap space then getting rid of him.
He's covering up his mistakes from last year. He's the one who signed Kemba, Burks and Noel and is now trading away assets to make up for those signings.
Who's to say we won't be in the same boat this time next year?
They didnt need to trade both Burks and Noel
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I love it!!
He's covering up his mistakes from last year. He's the one who signed Kemba, Burks and Noel and is now trading away assets to make up for those signings.
Who's to say we won't be in the same boat this time next year?
Burks was a solid player for us..sad to see him go
Noel.was fantastic during the playoffs...injuries made him expendable
Kemba was just a bad move...only out I give Rose was we needed a PG and Kemba was the only one available...
But his contract wasn't bad
We are in a much much much better place now than last year
The man has cleared $30plus million in cap space...
They didnt need to trade both Burks and Noel
Maybe...I liked both Burks and Noel...
Noel.was injured alot and Burks becomes expendable if we get Murray
Now we need to address Mitchgate
And I still hope we trade Randle. And at this point, what is Reddish's value? If it's that low, we might as well keep him and see if he can improve.
@ChrisBHaynes
When free agency opens on Thursday, the New York Knicks are expected to present Jalen Brunson a four-year offer in the vicinity of $110 million, league sources tell @YahooSports.
And I still hope we trade Randle. And at this point, what is Reddish's value? If it's that low, we might as well keep him and see if he can improve.
Fournier was a big disappointment...but he played lights out in the Olympics right before we signed him...last year not so much
Cam got hurt...lets see with him
@ChrisBHaynes
When free agency opens on Thursday, the New York Knicks are expected to present Jalen Brunson a four-year offer in the vicinity of $110 million, league sources tell @YahooSports.
I bet it winds up being 4 for $100M with $10M in very difficult to achieve bonuses
@ChrisBHaynes
When free agency opens on Thursday, the New York Knicks are expected to present Jalen Brunson a four-year offer in the vicinity of $110 million, league sources tell @YahooSports.
Its clear they were gonna outbid Dallas..
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knicks could have 10 to 12 million in space left after Brunson signs..they trade Cam, they can absorb Murray and just send out picks..
They didnt need to trade both Burks and Noel
Maybe...I liked both Burks and Noel...
Noel.was injured alot and Burks becomes expendable if we get Murray
Now we need to address Mitchgate
Burks was expendable if Grimes is healthy regardless of needing cap space.
You hope Quickley can take that role.
You hope Quickley can take that role.
Burks was at his best when he was coming off the bench 15 to 20 minutes and play more when he is hot..
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
@esidery
The Knicks and Wizards were the two teams most consistently linked to Malcolm Brogdon over the last week.
With New York signing Jalen Brunson, Washington seems like the potential favorite unless the Mavericks now pivot in that direction.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
Fournier has 1 yr left..I hope we get Brunson and Murray
U down with that backcourt??
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
You realize like half the league is CAA right?
you also realize Brunson will be the 14th highest paid PG in the NBA? 25 million a year is nothing for a atarting PG in todays NBA
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Clients.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
You realize like half the league is CAA right?
you also realize Brunson will be the 14th highest paid PG in the NBA? 25 million a year is nothing for a atarting PG in todays NBA
Especially for position we so desperately need...he is a rising star
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Clients.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
You realize like half the league is CAA right?
you also realize Brunson will be the 14th highest paid PG in the NBA? 25 million a year is nothing for a atarting PG in todays NBA
Oh I get it and he is not a top half PG for 27.5 million and doesn't make this team more than 4 or 5 games better.
Not a difference maker at all and everyone is expecting a big leap which I don't see happening.
Enjoy your moment I just don't see.
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Clients.
Rose is going to retire after the ink is dry.
Alot of money and capital to get here another bad Knicks deal.
Brunson and Fournier as your backcourt defense.
All of this to get to .500 basketball and in no man's land.
I will be rooting like hell for this team like always I have been through so many of these what's 1 more.
You realize like half the league is CAA right?
you also realize Brunson will be the 14th highest paid PG in the NBA? 25 million a year is nothing for a atarting PG in todays NBA
Oh I get it and he is not a top half PG for 27.5 million and doesn't make this team more than 4 or 5 games better.
Not a difference maker at all and everyone is expecting a big leap which I don't see happening.
Enjoy your moment I just don't see.
I think you're fooling yourself if you don't think a legitimate starting PG doesn't make the team 4-5 games better. It's not a coincidence that Randle had his big year playing off Rose at PG.
It's also not a coincidence that Rose missed 60 games and the Knicks were significantly worse off for it. And this is late career running on fumes, shouldn't be playing starter minutes Rose.
Also said Mitch is expected back 4 years 60 million, i would guess some of that is incentives
Still trying to figure out the Reddish deal.
Still trying to figure out the Reddish deal.
it wouldnt exactly be 4 for 60 i am guessing more like 4 for 45 or so with incentives i am guessong
Brunson will be a significant improvement at PG for Knicks. He has really improved the last couple of years for the Mavs. He was a baller in playoffs this season.
Honestly if I am Dallas, I’d strongly consider bringing back Fournier in a sign and trade. As time goes on that contract gets easier for them to flip for something else, and at least you’re getting a solid player rather then losing Brunson for nothing while as a luxury tax team basically not being able to do anything to replace him. As a guy that made a high number of 3s on pretty good percentages, Fournier is certainly overpaid, but still a solid player.
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do the Knicks work with the Mavs on a sign and trade? Do the mavs take on some salary or do they want just a trade exception? If it is just a trade exception, i am asking for them to remove the protections off the 23 pick
Honestly if I am Dallas, I’d strongly consider bringing back Fournier in a sign and trade. As time goes on that contract gets easier for them to flip for something else, and at least you’re getting a solid player rather then losing Brunson for nothing while as a luxury tax team basically not being able to do anything to replace him. As a guy that made a high number of 3s on pretty good percentages, Fournier is certainly overpaid, but still a solid player.
They can have Fournier...Ill even throw in a free milk bone
Also said Mitch is expected back 4 years 60 million, i would guess some of that is incentives
I get the sentiment there but Murray is nowhere near as ball dominant as Luka is. His usage was a career high last year but still pales in comparison to Luka’s and was more so by necessity than anything else
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In comment 15743216 Reeses Pieces said:
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continue to hand out draft picks to rid themselves of their own mistakes.
Yeah man, really gonna lose sleep over those second round picks.
We can literally buy 2nd round picks with cash. We don’t even have roster spots for them
Wait 2nds are valuable when we get them but trash when we give them away?
Thanks
2nds are valuable specifically in situations like this! This is why you stockpile, to use them as trade filler.
PG: Brunson, Rose
SG: Fournier, Quickley, Grimes
SF: RJ, Cam
PF: Randle, Toppin
C: Robinson, Sims
That's a 11 man rotation, that doesn't account for Taj if we sign him back or McBride.
I'm hoping they can swing another deal to tighten up the roster.
PG: Brunson, Rose
SG: Fournier, Quickley, Grimes
SF: RJ, Cam
PF: Randle, Toppin
C: Robinson, Sims
That's a 11 man rotation, that doesn't account for Taj if we sign him back or McBride.
I'm hoping they can swing another deal to tighten up the roster.
Im guessing at least one of Fournier, Randle, Reddish isn’t on the roster by the time the trade deadline rolls around, if not much sooner.
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4/60 is an overpay for a one dimensional player.
Still trying to figure out the Reddish deal.
it wouldnt exactly be 4 for 60 i am guessing more like 4 for 45 or so with incentives i am guessong
Where are seeing it's incentivized?
It better be because Mitch is not worth 15 million per.
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4/60 is an overpay for a one dimensional player.
Still trying to figure out the Reddish deal.
it wouldnt exactly be 4 for 60 i am guessing more like 4 for 45 or so with incentives i am guessong
Where are seeing it's incentivized?
It better be because Mitch is not worth 15 million per.
I agree...but 4 for $45 is fine
As for Mitch, 4/60 sounds like a big overpay to me. That said, we need to remember to wait until details come out for everything based on how last year went. I can see it being announced 4/60 with 10 in unlikely bonuses and the last year non-guaranteed, so it really ends up being more like 3/36.
I agree that it’ll probably be descending. I mentioned this above but I also think it’s likely to be 4 for $100M with $10M in incentives that are essentially unreachable. The media will report the sticker price which is what CAA wants but it’ll really be 4 for $100M. Just a hunch
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Denver is nearing trading Monte Morris and Will Barton to Washington in deal for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Ish Smith, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium
and it seems the Pacers over played their hand with Brogdon