Your hatred of Cena is odd to say the least. I can see not being a huge fan, but hating him is just strange. He's been huge for WWE for half of your life. And he has done so many amazing things, especially make a wish stuff. He deserves everyones respect.
I did understand why a lot of fans (especially my age) didn't care for Cena but if you were really that dissatisfied with the WWE you should've just quit watching.
As an outsider, I always thought the Cena hate was way more corny than his actual gimmick and that's saying a ton.
Take that ECW "hate fest" he went through in 2006 or whenever that was. You think he gave one fuck that night? Lol. He was probably enjoying that.
I really don't get why my friends were still bothering with WWE in say 2008 or 2009 if it was Cena they could not stand the most.
Just move on if one guy is bugging you that much? I don't know but I am glad I just skipped that era.
I watch WWE to be entertained, not to be bored and insulted by stupidity and disingenuous garbage
Well, he's been wildly successful as a WWE wrestler and entertainer, so your opinion on him as a wrestler/entertainer is clearly off base
Cena is fine out of the ring. He's pretty good as Peacemaker and he was pretty good in Trainwreck. As a professional wrestler, he's pure dogshit.
This is flat out wrong. He might be one of the most versatile wrestlers we have ever seen. He's had absolute classics with Punk, Bryan, HHH, HBK, edge, orton, styles Etc, and can also work a brawl/hardcore style if needed. Hes as good on the mic as almost anyone.
More importantly, almost to a man, other wrestlers respect him and liked his work.
It's odd how much you hate him, but hes on the mount Rushmore of WWE in almost any measurable way
around the time his run really started, but I have respect for the guy.
I get why some people (Anak lol) don't like him. He was booked as a pure babyface superhero who was targeted mainly towards kids and women. His whole schtick got stale pretty fast but they stuck with it because it kept making them money.
I have no doubt he could've been an absolutely killer heel. Roman Reigns' reputation shot up after his heel run, Cena is way better on the mic than Reigns and could've had a similar change in perception as a heel if the company went that way.
Not one of my favorite wrestlers, but he's strong as an ox with forearms the size of legs and he's done a lot of impressive things in the ring because of that. I'm happy to see him having success with movies/TV, he seems to be a good dude.
Cena also worked well because he WAS a heel in the 2000s/early 2010s in the eyes of those fans who still kept watching from The Attitude era.
He isn't the Rock and he isn't Stone Cold. No need to turn him into a heel (that type of heel) when his dorky, boy scout, Marine image was enough to annoy 20 something year old fans who wouldn't call it quits and yet still spent money to attend shows to .... see John Cena.
Just have JR say "it's like a road game to Cena" to make sense out of the booing and hissing to the youngsters to show that their guy could overcome adversity. Very well done.
LOL. Nielsen said that Raw lost viewers from last week.
Cena also worked well because he WAS a heel in the 2000s/early 2010s in the eyes of those fans who still kept watching from The Attitude era.
Cena was never a heel in the 2010s. Even during his feud with the Rock he never formally turned. He hasn't been a heel since the rapper gimmick. He's been the same ol' stale babyface for 18 years or so.
I watch WWE to be entertained, not to be bored and insulted by stupidity and disingenuous garbage
Well, he's been wildly successful as a WWE wrestler and entertainer, so your opinion on him as a wrestler/entertainer is clearly off base
Cena is fine out of the ring. He's pretty good as Peacemaker and he was pretty good in Trainwreck. As a professional wrestler, he's pure dogshit.
This is flat out wrong. He might be one of the most versatile wrestlers we have ever seen. He's had absolute classics with Punk, Bryan, HHH, HBK, edge, orton, styles Etc, and can also work a brawl/hardcore style if needed. Hes as good on the mic as almost anyone.
More importantly, almost to a man, other wrestlers respect him and liked his work.
It's odd how much you hate him, but hes on the mount Rushmore of WWE in almost any measurable way
There's no way this is a serious post. There's no way someone can say a bunch of things so factually and objectively wrong.
I watch WWE to be entertained, not to be bored and insulted by stupidity and disingenuous garbage
Well, he's been wildly successful as a WWE wrestler and entertainer, so your opinion on him as a wrestler/entertainer is clearly off base
Cena is fine out of the ring. He's pretty good as Peacemaker and he was pretty good in Trainwreck. As a professional wrestler, he's pure dogshit.
This is flat out wrong. He might be one of the most versatile wrestlers we have ever seen. He's had absolute classics with Punk, Bryan, HHH, HBK, edge, orton, styles Etc, and can also work a brawl/hardcore style if needed. Hes as good on the mic as almost anyone.
More importantly, almost to a man, other wrestlers respect him and liked his work.
It's odd how much you hate him, but hes on the mount Rushmore of WWE in almost any measurable way
There's no way this is a serious post. There's no way someone can say a bunch of things so factually and objectively wrong.
By what measure? Honestly, you don't have to like him, but to deny his place in history is kind of weird.
Like, if someone said " hey did you watch the Lebron James special last night" and I said, "oh Lebron James? he's dogshit, he stinks". That would be very stupid.
To you, he definitely was. I've never seen a guy get under fans skins than the way Cena did to people my age.
Cena this, Cena that.
He's fake. Complete different person in front of the camera than he is off camera. It wasn't always like that. Cena used to be awesome off camera. The bigger he got the more that changed. He's gotten a little better in recent years, but he was a flat out dick off camera for many years.
Of a wrestler Cena was. Some of the most beloved and historic wrestlers were awful wrestlers
- hogan
- Andre the giant
- the Rock
- Cena
- HHH (to an extent)
They are all historically mentioned for their contributions.
Cena was and very much is the modern-day Hulk Hogan, for better or worse. But at least Hogan turned heel and became a classic heel when his gimmick ran its course.
Doesn't matter. The product that is pro wrestling hasn't been "must see" since early 2000 and was at tolerable level in MAYBE 2002, the latest. The writing was on the wall by that point that things weren't going to be the same. That's also fine with me. You can't march out the Rock, Austin, DX week in and week out and it not get stale. nWo anyone?
Again, doesn't matter whether Cena is at the top or not. I'll tune in from time to time and the shit they have on there is some how more mind-numbingly worse than the last bullshit I watched.
Some of my friends from high school STILL watch and I'm just dumbfounded by the idea someone my age would give WWE the time of day. I keep seeing the same matches, too. Brock vs Roman Reigns. Paul Haymen.
Before anyone runs that shit about watching the Giants and being true after all this, I get it.
I actually hated wrestling as a kid prior to 1996. I thought all that Warrior, yellow Hogan, neon face paint Sting stuff was just awful. I spent the early 90s watching Phil Simms and the stupid Cowboys win Super Bowls.
After years of fighting it, the nWo stuff hooked me in.
Lol, ok. Probably done more for others than you’ll ever dream of bud.
Your hatred of Cena is odd to say the least. I can see not being a huge fan, but hating him is just strange. He's been huge for WWE for half of your life. And he has done so many amazing things, especially make a wish stuff. He deserves everyones respect.
I watch WWE to be entertained, not to be bored and insulted by stupidity and disingenuous garbage
I watch WWE to be entertained, not to be bored and insulted by stupidity and disingenuous garbage
Well, he's been wildly successful as a WWE wrestler and entertainer, so your opinion on him as a wrestler/entertainer is clearly off base
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Doesn't mean she should play PG for the Knicks.
I watch WWE to be entertained, not to be bored and insulted by stupidity and disingenuous garbage
Well, he's been wildly successful as a WWE wrestler and entertainer, so your opinion on him as a wrestler/entertainer is clearly off base
Cena is fine out of the ring. He's pretty good as Peacemaker and he was pretty good in Trainwreck. As a professional wrestler, he's pure dogshit.
As an outsider, I always thought the Cena hate was way more corny than his actual gimmick and that's saying a ton.
Take that ECW "hate fest" he went through in 2006 or whenever that was. You think he gave one fuck that night? Lol. He was probably enjoying that.
I really don't get why my friends were still bothering with WWE in say 2008 or 2009 if it was Cena they could not stand the most.
Just move on if one guy is bugging you that much? I don't know but I am glad I just skipped that era.
They're all not very bright. I was the smart guy. I am the smart guy.
Lol that was so fucking dumb
not very admirable in my book
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Doesn't mean she should play PG for the Knicks.
I watch WWE to be entertained, not to be bored and insulted by stupidity and disingenuous garbage
Well, he's been wildly successful as a WWE wrestler and entertainer, so your opinion on him as a wrestler/entertainer is clearly off base
Cena is fine out of the ring. He's pretty good as Peacemaker and he was pretty good in Trainwreck. As a professional wrestler, he's pure dogshit.
This is flat out wrong. He might be one of the most versatile wrestlers we have ever seen. He's had absolute classics with Punk, Bryan, HHH, HBK, edge, orton, styles Etc, and can also work a brawl/hardcore style if needed. Hes as good on the mic as almost anyone.
More importantly, almost to a man, other wrestlers respect him and liked his work.
It's odd how much you hate him, but hes on the mount Rushmore of WWE in almost any measurable way
I assumed the whole thing was to set up him vs Theory at summerslam, but they did plant the seed for it at some point
I get why some people (Anak lol) don't like him. He was booked as a pure babyface superhero who was targeted mainly towards kids and women. His whole schtick got stale pretty fast but they stuck with it because it kept making them money.
I have no doubt he could've been an absolutely killer heel. Roman Reigns' reputation shot up after his heel run, Cena is way better on the mic than Reigns and could've had a similar change in perception as a heel if the company went that way.
Not one of my favorite wrestlers, but he's strong as an ox with forearms the size of legs and he's done a lot of impressive things in the ring because of that. I'm happy to see him having success with movies/TV, he seems to be a good dude.
He isn't the Rock and he isn't Stone Cold. No need to turn him into a heel (that type of heel) when his dorky, boy scout, Marine image was enough to annoy 20 something year old fans who wouldn't call it quits and yet still spent money to attend shows to .... see John Cena.
Just have JR say "it's like a road game to Cena" to make sense out of the booing and hissing to the youngsters to show that their guy could overcome adversity. Very well done.
Cena was never a heel in the 2010s. Even during his feud with the Rock he never formally turned. He hasn't been a heel since the rapper gimmick. He's been the same ol' stale babyface for 18 years or so.
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Doesn't mean she should play PG for the Knicks.
I watch WWE to be entertained, not to be bored and insulted by stupidity and disingenuous garbage
Well, he's been wildly successful as a WWE wrestler and entertainer, so your opinion on him as a wrestler/entertainer is clearly off base
Cena is fine out of the ring. He's pretty good as Peacemaker and he was pretty good in Trainwreck. As a professional wrestler, he's pure dogshit.
This is flat out wrong. He might be one of the most versatile wrestlers we have ever seen. He's had absolute classics with Punk, Bryan, HHH, HBK, edge, orton, styles Etc, and can also work a brawl/hardcore style if needed. Hes as good on the mic as almost anyone.
More importantly, almost to a man, other wrestlers respect him and liked his work.
It's odd how much you hate him, but hes on the mount Rushmore of WWE in almost any measurable way
There's no way this is a serious post. There's no way someone can say a bunch of things so factually and objectively wrong.
But he drew people and that’s what matters.
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In comment 15742445 Anakim said:
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Doesn't mean she should play PG for the Knicks.
I watch WWE to be entertained, not to be bored and insulted by stupidity and disingenuous garbage
Well, he's been wildly successful as a WWE wrestler and entertainer, so your opinion on him as a wrestler/entertainer is clearly off base
Cena is fine out of the ring. He's pretty good as Peacemaker and he was pretty good in Trainwreck. As a professional wrestler, he's pure dogshit.
This is flat out wrong. He might be one of the most versatile wrestlers we have ever seen. He's had absolute classics with Punk, Bryan, HHH, HBK, edge, orton, styles Etc, and can also work a brawl/hardcore style if needed. Hes as good on the mic as almost anyone.
More importantly, almost to a man, other wrestlers respect him and liked his work.
It's odd how much you hate him, but hes on the mount Rushmore of WWE in almost any measurable way
There's no way this is a serious post. There's no way someone can say a bunch of things so factually and objectively wrong.
By what measure? Honestly, you don't have to like him, but to deny his place in history is kind of weird.
Like, if someone said " hey did you watch the Lebron James special last night" and I said, "oh Lebron James? he's dogshit, he stinks". That would be very stupid.
Cena this, Cena that.
Cena this, Cena that.
He's fake. Complete different person in front of the camera than he is off camera. It wasn't always like that. Cena used to be awesome off camera. The bigger he got the more that changed. He's gotten a little better in recent years, but he was a flat out dick off camera for many years.
I'm not what you would call "a nice guy" but people love me. Always having to sign autographs and shit.
- hogan
- Andre the giant
- the Rock
- Cena
- HHH (to an extent)
They are all historically mentioned for their contributions.
- hogan
- Andre the giant
- the Rock
- Cena
- HHH (to an extent)
They are all historically mentioned for their contributions.
Cena was and very much is the modern-day Hulk Hogan, for better or worse. But at least Hogan turned heel and became a classic heel when his gimmick ran its course.
Raw's ratings were down from last week...
Again, doesn't matter whether Cena is at the top or not. I'll tune in from time to time and the shit they have on there is some how more mind-numbingly worse than the last bullshit I watched.
Some of my friends from high school STILL watch and I'm just dumbfounded by the idea someone my age would give WWE the time of day. I keep seeing the same matches, too. Brock vs Roman Reigns. Paul Haymen.
Before anyone runs that shit about watching the Giants and being true after all this, I get it.
One is scripted and one isn't. Lol.
After years of fighting it, the nWo stuff hooked me in.
Well, then he's a shitty heel