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Some players graded under Schoen' Smart, Tough & Dependable

George from PA : 6/28/2022 9:21 am
This is my opinion and I broke each criteria into 2 parts


1. Able to pick up the playbook, coachable etc…..more intelligence.

2. Playing smart. Reacting quickly, seeing the field and plays in advance etc….more on the field instinct.


3. Forceful, dominant on the field. One of the reason why I feel Logan Ryan was cut was too many “business decisions” on plays.

4. Playing and practicing through pain.


5. Just being available to play. Not injury prone.

6. Reliable play, consistently playing at the players level, not disappearing.

I will also be judging on a scale. For example I will grade Love easier than I would grade McKinney as I expect far more from McKinney and Love might be replaced by a rookie. Also, it’s a view back…not what I expect and hope to see this year. 6 is a perfect score.

Feel free to add players and discuss.


Daniel Jones 3/6. He is smart, plays tough, maybe tougher than he should. He is willing to play and practice in pain, but he hasn’t played a full season, and when he plays, I feel he must react quicker and be more consistent. Not saying he can not improve but he must become more dependable.

Tyrod Taylor 3/6. I feel Taylor gets the benefit at BBI. He is smart, react quickly, but is not consistent enough, nor very dependable. His play is up and down and far too injury prone.


Saquon Barkley 4/6. I think he checks off Smart and Tough but lacks on both dependable aspects. Too injury prone and his level of play is not consistent. I expect a very high level of play. I hope we get THAT back!


Sterling Shepard 5/6. The only area he misses is a big one…..availability! Otherwise, he is coaching dream.

Darius Slayton 3/6. His inconsistency is maddening


Andrew Thomas 5/6. To be honest he deserves 6 out of 6 so I am being a bit picky…as he started off inconsistent, but by end of last year…..He was only reliable OLmen.


Leonard Williams 5/6. My impression is his level of play is not always on the same level but otherwise he checks all the other boxes.

Dexter Lawrence 4/6. Similar to Leonard, his play is not consistent and nor does he read plays well.


Azeez Ojulari 3/6. Hopefully, his added weight will help him control the action better. He needs to play smarter, as well. He certainly disappeared at times.

Blake Martinez 6/6 I understand he missed all of last year, but he doesn’t give me the impression he is injury prone……otherwise, you know what you get from him.

Tae Crowder 4/6. He certainly is not forceful enough and I am not sure he reacts quick enough. An ideal back-up.


Darney Holmes 4/6. I wish he was more forceful and his play is up and down, but that could be based on quality of competition.


Julian Love 5/6. I just do not see enough forcefulness. He is consistent, but preferable as a back-up.

Xavier McKinney,4/6. I need him to be more consistent and improve reading plays. I expect big things.

Special Teams

Graham Gano 6/6 We are in good hands

Casey Kreiter 6/6 ditto

My main conclusion going through this exercise is how little I really know what we have on our roster. Besides all the new players, there are so many that just haven't shown enough.

It is clear that “Dependability” is our biggest issue. I do feel we have a relatively “smart” team. The potential is high that we also have a “tough” team.

The balance of players are Incomplete, as I just do not have a good enough feel for all the criteria’s.
Exactly what have you seen from Barkley  
arniefez : 6/28/2022 10:21 am : link
that you would describe as tough?
I would think  
Costy16 : 6/28/2022 10:27 am : link
Knowing the playbook would fall under dependable too.
I had to draw a line with Barkley  
George from PA : 6/28/2022 10:38 am : link
His style is not a tough runner. He is a elusive runner.

Also, I hit him for lack of dependability.... but when healthy, he does dominate and I do not question his toughness.
Everyone, has the right to define each criteria as they see it.  
George from PA : 6/28/2022 10:40 am : link
Jerry K : 6/28/2022 11:02 am : link
If everyone defines them in their own way they can hardly be called criteria.
going to have to watch this season to really know  
mattlawson : 6/28/2022 11:06 am : link
sounds like some optimistic projections ahead of the season.
George from PA : 6/28/2022 11:15 am : link
Only Blake got 6 out of 6 besides the 2 special teamers.

But I do hope all these grades improve this season
Jerry.....I am not going to argue on peoples opinions  
George from PA : 6/28/2022 11:17 am : link
I like how I defined them
George, I like the way you did this, though I think you have Slayton &  
Spider56 : 6/28/2022 11:31 am : link
Crowder too high. File this until year end and then let’s look back on these and all the young pups ...KT1, KT2, Wan’Dale, Neal, Lemieux, Bellinger, Azeez, Roche, Smith, McFadden, Beavers, Robinson, Flott and the Williams’. The final 53 will tell us a lot about how the coaches see the potential of these guys.
George from PA : 6/28/2022 11:44 am : link
One thing I I only judge on Smart, Tough and Dependable or also weight in on quality.

I see Dependable as great players and average players can both be similar

Slayton very easily can be cut.....Holmes, Love and Crowder are backups imo. Their level of play are lower.....but can the coaches rely on them to deliver what they bring to the how I looked at it
thanks for your breakdowns and opinions  
ColHowPepper : 6/28/2022 12:33 pm : link
I'd add: 'situational awareness' to Smarts #2--playing situationally aware, you don't as a RB or WR step OOB if you have the lead late, or give up the sideline when the opposition is trying to milk the clock

On player assessments, I don't get, e.g., how you rate McKinney lower (4/6) than Love (5/6), yet you expect 'great things' from the former and rate the latter as a backup.
My thinking....  
George from PA : 6/28/2022 12:52 pm : link
I expect McKinney to play under dependability....his level of play must remain higher....his lapses is less acceptable as we depend on him more.

As Love play is pretty consistent....not great but not bad. He is technically more consistent.....but at a much lower level.

Am I off base?

Dependability is consistency ....not wether you are a superstar or not.

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