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Jints in Carolina : 6/28/2022 1:35 pm
10. New York Giants
Tyler Van Dyke, QB, Miami*


https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/insider/story/_/id/34148153/nfl-mock-draft-2023-matt-miller-predictions-all-32-first-round-picks-landing-spots-six-quarterbacks - ( New Window )
is that a remote thrower?  
Jints in Carolina : 6/28/2022 1:36 pm : link
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RE: is that a remote thrower?  
guitarguybs12 : 6/28/2022 1:38 pm : link
In comment 15742808 Jints in Carolina said:
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right now I have no opinion he's such an unknown. was up and down last year in sporadic playing time. depends about how he performs having a full season as the starter.
RE: is that a remote thrower?  
Anakim : 6/28/2022 1:40 pm : link
In comment 15742808 Jints in Carolina said:
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No, but we'll see if he can duplicate his success this year.
i don't know anything about him....  
Klaatu : 6/28/2022 1:57 pm : link
But I did find the article linked below.

Link - ( New Window )
who's his godfather, Morey Amsterdam?  
Victor in CT : 6/28/2022 2:04 pm : link
cue up the theme song
At this moment  
Toth029 : 6/28/2022 2:05 pm : link
This isn't a rich QB class. But guys like Levis, Van Dyke and Richardson can explode and make it spicy.

Not thrilled with either Young and Stroud.
Alot of Hype  
Costy16 : 6/28/2022 2:14 pm : link
Surrounding Van Dyke in the ACC. Case could be made he is the best QB in the conference. In 2021 he won the ACC Rookie & Offensive Rookie of the year and his passer rating was second only to Kenny Pickett. Canes could be heavy favorites on the Coastal side of the ACC this year too with Pickett now in the NFL.
All Qbs wanted by BBI have turned out to be remote throwers.  
Chip : 6/28/2022 3:19 pm : link
Haskins, Rosen, Darnold all were BBI favorites. QBs are high risk picks because most of them don't work out. It will be interesting to see if Fields or Lance work out this year.
RE: All Qbs wanted by BBI have turned out to be remote throwers.  
Victor in CT : 6/28/2022 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15742936 Chip said:
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Haskins, Rosen, Darnold all were BBI favorites. QBs are high risk picks because most of them don't work out. It will be interesting to see if Fields or Lance work out this year.


excellent point
Aside from the predicted pics  
Tony in Tampa : 6/28/2022 3:42 pm : link
Any surprise that he has the Jets picking first? Seems like media speculation has them as a possible breakout from the bad teams.
He's one of the more intriguing QB prospects  
Milton : 6/28/2022 3:51 pm : link
Anyone of these QBs could rise up to be #1 overall including Van Dyke. There's a lot to like about him.
At least we know it won't be his Senior Bowl performance...  
Klaatu : 6/28/2022 3:54 pm : link
That endears him to the Giants.
RE: who's his godfather, Morey Amsterdam?  
Alamo : 6/28/2022 3:55 pm : link
In comment 15742841 Victor in CT said:
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cue up the theme song

Not Morey.... Dick Van Dyke..Very funny dude..Very nimble around the living room..Can escape the pass rush..So so arm strength...
Start getting familiar with this name.....Myles Murphy, DE, Clemson...  
No Where Man : 6/28/2022 3:56 pm : link
He reminds me of a bigger and just as fast Leonard Marshall....
RE: Start getting familiar with this name.....Myles Murphy, DE, Clemson...  
Angel Eyes : 6/28/2022 4:12 pm : link
In comment 15742975 No Where Man said:
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He reminds me of a bigger and just as fast Leonard Marshall....

Murphy's listed as being smaller than Marshall at 6'5", 275 lbs; he's more Strahan's size. That being said I wouldn't mind someone else like Strahan.
Marshall was about 6'2" at best....  
No Where Man : 6/28/2022 4:20 pm : link
I thought his best playing weight was about 270...
He’s the third  
tyrik13 : 6/28/2022 4:41 pm : link
QB to me in this upcoming draft class. The kid can spin it: 25 TDs to 6 ints in 9 games last year and made some big time throws as a redshirt frosh. I like him and he could rise up draft boards really fast with another strong showing
RE: Aside from the predicted pics  
Section331 : 6/28/2022 5:06 pm : link
In comment 15742959 Tony in Tampa said:
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Any surprise that he has the Jets picking first? Seems like media speculation has them as a possible breakout from the bad teams.


I'd be surprised. I guess if Wilson completely craps out, but I think the Jets could be fairly competitive.
RE: Aside from the predicted pics  
Scooter185 : 6/28/2022 5:26 pm : link
In comment 15742959 Tony in Tampa said:
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Any surprise that he has the Jets picking first? Seems like media speculation has them as a possible breakout from the bad teams.


Draft order in this is based on ESPNs power rankings
So it's not too soon to post mocks? I mean, with all of the  
Jack Stroud : 6/28/2022 7:24 pm : link
possibilities of college players being injured, failing to perform, or sleeper players doing well you would think it would be wise to wait until at least mid college season. Besides, Daniel Jones is going to have a monster year, the Giants will have needs in other areas.
RE: So it's not too soon to post mocks? I mean, with all of the  
OBJRoyal : 6/29/2022 4:55 am : link
In comment 15743110 Jack Stroud said:
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possibilities of college players being injured, failing to perform, or sleeper players doing well you would think it would be wise to wait until at least mid college season. Besides, Daniel Jones is going to have a monster year, the Giants will have needs in other areas.


Out of no where, Jones is going to have a "monster" year, which he has never done. ok
Van Dyke...  
bw in dc : 6/29/2022 1:06 pm : link
has some quality skills, maybe even in the plus territory. But I want to see more before I think he's worthy of a lottery pick...
RE: RE: So it's not too soon to post mocks? I mean, with all of the  
Milton : 6/29/2022 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15743333 OBJRoyal said:
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Out of nowhere, Jones is going to have a "monster" year, which he has never done. ok
Isn't that what happened for Josh Allen? He didn't have any monster years until he did. Not sure what you mean about "out of nowhere" (he'll probably be commuting to and from the stadium in an automotive vehicle of some kind).
RE: RE: RE: So it's not too soon to post mocks? I mean, with all of the  
chick310 : 6/29/2022 2:20 pm : link
In comment 15743736 Milton said:
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Out of nowhere, Jones is going to have a "monster" year, which he has never done. ok

Isn't that what happened for Josh Allen? He didn't have any monster years until he did. Not sure what you mean about "out of nowhere" (he'll probably be commuting to and from the stadium in an automotive vehicle of some kind).


No, that isn't what happened to Josh Allen. He had improvement in a number of key areas (compl %, TD and INT ratios, wins, etc.) from year 1 to year 2, and then again in year 3. His development did not come "out of nowhere" if you were watching.

More importantly, how long are these threads & posts going to go on comparing aspects of Josh Allen to Daniel Jones? This has been going for a couple of seasons now on the site, and the two players and their respective play and trend lines aren't remotely similar.
Van Dyke will have us dancing in the street  
xman : 6/29/2022 11:52 pm : link
He was amazing when he stepped in at the U last year. Off the chart good
How are the Jets drafting #1?  
Gruber : 6/30/2022 2:24 pm : link
They're projected to go significantly backwards in 2022?
KC at 24, Dallas at 29 both seem suspect.
I see he doesn't factor in trades, but that makes the top of the draft unrealistic. At least one of those top four teams will either draft a QB or trade down.
If the Jets really end up with the worst record in the NFL, that will mean a new front office regime and most likely a new QB drafted.
RE: How are the Jets drafting #1?  
Scooter185 : 6/30/2022 2:35 pm : link
In comment 15744701 Gruber said:
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They're projected to go significantly backwards in 2022?
KC at 24, Dallas at 29 both seem suspect.
I see he doesn't factor in trades, but that makes the top of the draft unrealistic. At least one of those top four teams will either draft a QB or trade down.
If the Jets really end up with the worst record in the NFL, that will mean a new front office regime and most likely a new QB drafted.


It's based on ESPNs power rankings, not what the writer necessarily thinks the draft order will be
RE: How are the Jets drafting #1?  
SGMen : 7/1/2022 7:01 am : link
In comment 15744701 Gruber said:
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They're projected to go significantly backwards in 2022?
KC at 24, Dallas at 29 both seem suspect.
I see he doesn't factor in trades, but that makes the top of the draft unrealistic. At least one of those top four teams will either draft a QB or trade down.
If the Jets really end up with the worst record in the NFL, that will mean a new front office regime and most likely a new QB drafted.
While I do see both KC and Dallas taking big steps back and both missng the playoffs possibly they won't be that bad I don't think.

Jets are terrible and the QB they drafted hasn't made you thinking "big year ahead" so ??? Jets are sadder than the Giants.
RE: So it's not too soon to post mocks? I mean, with all of the  
Angel Eyes : 7/1/2022 9:41 am : link
In comment 15743110 Jack Stroud said:
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possibilities of college players being injured, failing to perform, or sleeper players doing well you would think it would be wise to wait until at least mid college season. Besides, Daniel Jones is going to have a monster year, the Giants will have needs in other areas.

It doesn't hurt to start reading up on prospects, build a draft board, know what holes the Giants are going to have after 2022 (off the top of my head: quarterback, running back, tight end, swing tackle, middle linebacker).
I believe the Giants will very likely "gut" the pieces that don't fit  
SGMen : 7/3/2022 10:53 am : link
for the future or are a risk to re-sign so guys like D. Jones, S. Barkley, B. Martinez and K. Galloday may all be gone either as pure UFA or cap casualties.

Then we draft a QB who may sit early in the season and start afte the bye week making 2023 a developmental year rather than be a contender. It really depends on how healthy and productive these guys are and how much they fit the future with the cap considered.
PFN ran a two-round mock draft yesterday;  
Angel Eyes : 7/3/2022 11:26 am : link
Giants had picks 7 and 39, which they used to draft Georgia cornerback Kelee Ringo and Alabama linebacker Henry To'o To'o at 39th. First three picks were Ohio State QB C.J. Stroud (to the Texans), Georgia DT Jalen Carter to the Falcons, and Alabama QB Bryce Young to the Lions. Alabama rushbacker Will Anderson goes to the Jaguars at No. 5.

I guess PFN is banking on Jones having a really good year.
Mellor’s 2-round 2023 NFL Mock Draft: C.J. Stroud, Bryce Young, and Will Levis go in the first nine picks - ( New Window )
If the Giants are picking 7th  
Snablats : 7/3/2022 12:54 pm : link
it means Jones had a bad year, so they would be taking a QB
RE: If the Giants are picking 7th  
Angel Eyes : 7/3/2022 10:03 pm : link
In comment 15746728 Snablats said:
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it means Jones had a bad year, so they would be taking a QB

My guess is that they think corner is more important?
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