Trying to consolidate the threads. Lots of speculation on those threads but the more solid stuff is:
-Expectation is Brunson will sign with the Knicks on a 4/110 mill deal.
-Mitch rumored to be around 4/60 but there seems to be a lot of debate on that
-Knicks have about 30 mill available but can get to around 37 easily.
To be clear the Ayton stuff is just trying to read the tea leaves
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No actual smoke yet. But all signs point to them anticipating making another move this summer. They didn’t have to make all those moves to get Brunson and could have waited on moving Noel.
The only two players that seem to be available that are upgrades are Murray and Ayton and I just don’t see Murray happening.
I think it is Brunson and they will make a trade for an All Star player, no idea who that player is, but Donovan Mitchell will be tough because of Danny Ainge.
@Bill Simmons
If the Lakers offered Westbrook’s 47m expiring and a 2027 top-3 protected 1st for Randle, Fournier and Rose ($56m combined just in 2023), what would the Knicks say?
@Bill Simmons
If the Lakers offered Westbrook’s 47m expiring and a 2027 top-3 protected 1st for Randle, Fournier and Rose ($56m combined just in 2023), what would the Knicks say?
I saw that. My response would be, what are the protections after 2027? If there are none then I would do that.
Brunson was the first and i think more is coming at the 2..
Honestly would be a pretty good deal for LA. Randle, Fournier and Rose are 3 players who are probably more valuable on the court then Russ is these days.
Agree! I was thinking about this yesterday. If you offer a first with a bunch of protections, you shouldn't get a 2nd, you should get a 1st with no protections if it runs out.
Nothing is 100% until its done. And you gotta have a plan B.
Big problem with Knicks over the last 25 years is they never had a plan B.
Jake Fischer
@JakeLFischer
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Word starting to circle around NBA front offices of a potential increase in the 2022-23 salary cap. Multiple teams have indicated the cap could raise as high as 10%, from a projected $122 million.
Nothing is 100% until its done. And you gotta have a plan B.
Big problem with Knicks over the last 25 years is they never had a plan B.
I'm thinking it's because they're going to structure the contract with descending value. Helps them maintain some flexibility moving forward
What kind of a move are you going to make with 3-10 million in cap space?
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The extra space is for flexibility for the next move. The assets, the space and these trades are all in anticipation of another potential move.
What kind of a move are you going to make with 3-10 million in cap space?
The offseason just started. There is a lot they can do. The order in which they make moves is important too.
Quote:
The extra space is for flexibility for the next move. The assets, the space and these trades are all in anticipation of another potential move.
What kind of a move are you going to make with 3-10 million in cap space?
Could also be for a trade where you're sending out less salary than you're getting in return like for example Reddish and McBride + picks for Murray
Quote:
The extra space is for flexibility for the next move. The assets, the space and these trades are all in anticipation of another potential move.
What kind of a move are you going to make with 3-10 million in cap space?
it gives you more flexibility in a big trade, you dont have to send out 4 players to match 1
@JakeLFischer
Word starting to circle around NBA front offices of a potential increase in the 2022-23 salary cap. Multiple teams have indicated the cap could raise as high as 10%, from a projected $122 million.
@JakeLFischer
Word starting to circle around NBA front offices of a potential increase in the 2022-23 salary cap. Multiple teams have indicated the cap could raise as high as 10%, from a projected $122 million.
Now that makes sense
@TimBontemps
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The NBA's salary cap for the 2022-23 season is projected to come in at roughly $123.6 million, sources told ESPN. That is an $11.6 million increase from last year's salary cap figure of $112 million.
@TimBontemps
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The NBA's salary cap for the 2022-23 season is projected to come in at roughly $123.6 million, sources told ESPN. That is an $11.6 million increase from last year's salary cap figure of $112 million.
So Knicms have around 38 if they release taj rather than around 36
@Bill Simmons
If the Lakers offered Westbrook’s 47m expiring and a 2027 top-3 protected 1st for Randle, Fournier and Rose ($56m combined just in 2023), what would the Knicks say?
That’s a pretty good trade for the lakers to be honest. What other options do they have to actually improve that roster? This gives them 3 legit starters.
I’d prefer to keep Rose but I would think long and hard about this for the Knicks.
Keith Smith
@KeithSmithNBA
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I bet when we get the final, actual details of Jalen Brunson’s deal with the Knicks, it will look more team-friendly than it does as 4/$110M. That’s been the history of the last few years with the contracts New York has given out.
Keith Smith
@KeithSmithNBA
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I bet when we get the final, actual details of Jalen Brunson’s deal with the Knicks, it will look more team-friendly than it does as 4/$110M. That’s been the history of the last few years with the contracts New York has given out.
I hope so but I think this might be different because the past deals we were bidding against ourselves.
Cuban is not stupid and will combat any garbage.
Unless it's a 4th year team option or a descending contract starting at 30 million. It's all nickle and dime stuff
Shooting: By virtue of ONLY shooting via alley-oop or put-back dunk, Mitch has a FG % that is nearly unprecedented at 72%. That being said, his unwillingness to shoot outside of a foot and inability to hit a FT (54%) is a killer. Mo Bamba has worked hard on develop a 3 ball and is now roughly league average (35%). He also hits FTs at almost an acceptable rate (69%).
Defense: Both have great length and use it well with block stats of roughly 3 per 36 minutes.
Rebounding: Slight edge to Bamba.
Slight athleticism edge to Mitch. Slight size advantage to Bamba.
Looking forward, I like Bamba a bit better because Mitch is is so injury prone. Other than long term COVID, Bamba has a bit better durability. I also like his work rate off the court in terms of expected development.
Shooting: By virtue of ONLY shooting via alley-oop or put-back dunk, Mitch has a FG % that is nearly unprecedented at 72%. That being said, his unwillingness to shoot outside of a foot and inability to hit a FT (54%) is a killer. Mo Bamba has worked hard on develop a 3 ball and is now roughly league average (35%). He also hits FTs at almost an acceptable rate (69%).
Defense: Both have great length and use it well with block stats of roughly 3 per 36 minutes.
Rebounding: Slight edge to Bamba.
Slight athleticism edge to Mitch. Slight size advantage to Bamba.
Looking forward, I like Bamba a bit better because Mitch is is so injury prone. Other than long term COVID, Bamba has a bit better durability. I also like his work rate off the court in terms of expected development.
Bamba now a UFA.
I've seen this concept thrown around in the past
How would you structure the deal?
I ask because the difference between Robinson's and Ayton's value seems much smaller than the difference between their rumored paychecks. Ayton just does not seem likely to me I guess.
Shooting: By virtue of ONLY shooting via alley-oop or put-back dunk, Mitch has a FG % that is nearly unprecedented at 72%. That being said, his unwillingness to shoot outside of a foot and inability to hit a FT (54%) is a killer. Mo Bamba has worked hard on develop a 3 ball and is now roughly league average (35%). He also hits FTs at almost an acceptable rate (69%).
Defense: Both have great length and use it well with block stats of roughly 3 per 36 minutes.
Rebounding: Slight edge to Bamba.
Slight athleticism edge to Mitch. Slight size advantage to Bamba.
Looking forward, I like Bamba a bit better because Mitch is is so injury prone. Other than long term COVID, Bamba has a bit better durability. I also like his work rate off the court in terms of expected development.
Most projections on Bamba are MLE 10.2 to 13 Millon per 3 for 36.
He has a more complete game then Mitch.
Hopefully Mitch is more in the 10-12 million range but I would rather have Bamba for the free throw and 3 point shooting
does he have any kind of track record?