Trying to consolidate the threads. Lots of speculation on those threads but the more solid stuff is:
-Expectation is Brunson will sign with the Knicks on a 4/110 mill deal.
-Mitch rumored to be around 4/60 but there seems to be a lot of debate on that
-Knicks have about 30 mill available but can get to around 37 easily.
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does he have any kind of track record?
Yes. He’s legit
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or at least the John Wall treatment where he stays at home all year, ha. I dont want him anywhere near the team. But we can clear a lot of future salary with this and get a pick.
@Bill Simmons
If the Lakers offered Westbrook’s 47m expiring and a 2027 top-3 protected 1st for Randle, Fournier and Rose ($56m combined just in 2023), what would the Knicks say?
That’s a pretty good trade for the lakers to be honest. What other options do they have to actually improve that roster? This gives them 3 legit starters.
I’d prefer to keep Rose but I would think long and hard about this for the Knicks.
Agree. That's doing a huge favor for LA. I don't see Rose and Fournier as albatross contracts. And if Randle can get his head right, his deal goes from bad to ok real quick. Reminds me of when Walsh was desperate to clear room for 2010 and he just gave away good players.
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In comment 15743620 Italianju said:
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or at least the John Wall treatment where he stays at home all year, ha. I dont want him anywhere near the team. But we can clear a lot of future salary with this and get a pick.
@Bill Simmons
If the Lakers offered Westbrook’s 47m expiring and a 2027 top-3 protected 1st for Randle, Fournier and Rose ($56m combined just in 2023), what would the Knicks say?
That’s a pretty good trade for the lakers to be honest. What other options do they have to actually improve that roster? This gives them 3 legit starters.
I’d prefer to keep Rose but I would think long and hard about this for the Knicks.
Agree. That's doing a huge favor for LA. I don't see Rose and Fournier as albatross contracts. And if Randle can get his head right, his deal goes from bad to ok real quick. Reminds me of when Walsh was desperate to clear room for 2010 and he just gave away good players.
Can Lakers offer any more picks now? Definitely not enough. It'd have to be completed unprotected.
I would love to see Knicks get Mo Bamba.
Now that's a guy with upside.
Totally agree.
You can always move one later.
Right now, Knicks should hold onto all the players in their early twenties. They need to increase overall talent level on team. Worry about fit later when they are actually good.
Yup.
And ultimately Cuban can make a bigger offer if he decides to keep Brunson.
They're paying Spencer Dinwiddie 20 million a year at PG as well.
I don't think they can afford it.
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I think the Knicks are clearing for Brunson, because I agree Cuban will make a final push.
Yup.
And ultimately Cuban can make a bigger offer if he decides to keep Brunson.
Would it really surprise anyone if the Knicks get left at the alter again? I’m actually completely expecting it.
This would be super interesting. Murray is an absolute stud. At that point you would think that getting a shooter at the 2 would be the priority over Brunson but it looks like they want both which I don't know how that works.
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Knicks have in fact spoken to the Spurs about Murray
This would be super interesting. Murray is an absolute stud. At that point you would think that getting a shooter at the 2 would be the priority over Brunson but it looks like they want both which I don't know how that works.
Brunson as FA and Murray in S and T
Mitch is a useless player? He absolutely dominated several games last year.
Mitch and Mo entered the league at the same time. Mitch has played in more games. Mo Bamba is not more durable than Mitch.
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I think the Knicks are clearing for Brunson, because I agree Cuban will make a final push.
Yup.
And ultimately Cuban can make a bigger offer if he decides to keep Brunson.
Would it really surprise anyone if the Knicks get left at the alter again? I’m actually completely expecting it.
If the back up plan is Collin Sexton and Murray, would you be disappointed.
@SBondyNYDN
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A source confirmed the Knicks have expressed interest in acquiring Dejounte Murray from the Spurs, as @TheSteinLine
and @IanBegley
reported.
How about something like this with picks going from NY to SA and a 1st from LA to SA. They buy out Westbrook and get off the money next year
Link - ( New Window )
For me its the draft compensation and if they can get Randle out of here..
If you do a deal you are going to bave Brunson, Murray and Rj all capable kf running the offense and getting into the lane, how does Randle fit with that when all he wants to do is control the offense?
He got butthurt last year when he wasnt controlling the offense and thats part of why Kemba, Fournier, Rj didnt work...Randle controlled everythkng rather than letting those guys cook
His father is a coach on the team and his former agent is the GM. If they can't tamper properly with that advantage, just hang it up, as you're totally fucked as a franchise.
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Rose and Cam for Murray? with draft compensation obviously
How about something like this with picks going from NY to SA and a 1st from LA to SA. They buy out Westbrook and get off the money next year Link - ( New Window )
the return of McBuckets!! I like it for us - depending on the picks obviously. Reddish doesn't do much for LA (unless he's just in there for cap reasons)? For anyone getting Murray, you're almost committing to paying him a huge deal in 2 years.
is this interest legit or is it just hey ill call and see
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Isn’t going to end up getting traded for four 1sts
is this interest legit or is it just hey ill call and see
It’s legit interest but the price is still too high for them
Murray makes sense and Brunson looked good playing off ball.
Murray is a defense/ pass first PG.
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Mitch at any price tag to be honest. He is always hurt and really is kind of a useless player especially at that price tag. Would much rather see Mo Bamba for cheaper at this point.
Mitch is a useless player? He absolutely dominated several games last year.
Can't shoot, can't stretch the defense to the perimeter, terrible FT shooter. There is absolutely no reason to pay that type of player anywhere near even $10 million a season. Just my opinion. Waste of precious capital. Would rather pay Bamba and get a rotational 2 with the remaining money.
Thibs has an offense?
He should read Macri’s newsletter from this morning. Lays out a pretty compelling case for why Brunson is the perfect fit in the pick and roll heavy offense that Thibs likes to run, but hasn’t had the personnel for in NY.
Adrian Wojnarowski
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Washington Wizards star Bradley Beal has declined his $36.4M option and become a free agent, his agent Mark Bartelstein of
@PrioritySports
tells ESPN. Beal is eligible to sign a 5-year max to return to Wizards – or sign elsewhere on a 4-year deal.
@TheSteinLine
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Momentum is building toward an imminent Dejounte Murray trade, league sources say. Known suitors are the Hawks, Knicks and Timberwolves.
This is probably Beal's last big deal he is going to go with the home team max. He is 30 years old and is on the 10 yr max contract
5yrs 250 million or 4 years 180 from another team