Trying to consolidate the threads. Lots of speculation on those threads but the more solid stuff is:
-Expectation is Brunson will sign with the Knicks on a 4/110 mill deal.
-Mitch rumored to be around 4/60 but there seems to be a lot of debate on that
-Knicks have about 30 mill available but can get to around 37 easily.
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In comment 15743667 Pete44 said:
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I think the Knicks are clearing for Brunson, because I agree Cuban will make a final push.
Yup.
And ultimately Cuban can make a bigger offer if he decides to keep Brunson.
Would it really surprise anyone if the Knicks get left at the alter again? I’m actually completely expecting it.
I need to prepare for this. I can’t help but feel hopeful I’m such a sucker.
That said i will talk myself into him having a few more good years in him and he will stay healthy if we sign him, ha!!
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Momentum is building toward an imminent Dejounte Murray trade, league sources say. Known suitors are the Hawks, Knicks and Timberwolves.
Interesting Knicks interest leaked and now being reported a trade is imminent
I'm not a big Beal fan. I think he's tremendously overrated and has had some injury issues in recent years. If I was the Wizards I'd be scared shitless of giving him a $50M/year deal for the next 5 years, especially after what happened when they did that with Wall
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Momentum is building toward an imminent Dejounte Murray trade, league sources say. Known suitors are the Hawks, Knicks and Timberwolves.
Interesting Knicks interest leaked and now being reported a trade is imminent
We're probably just being used for leverage
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And trying to convince Beal to come to NY would be ideal, no?
I'm not a big Beal fan. I think he's tremendously overrated and has had some injury issues in recent years. If I was the Wizards I'd be scared shitless of giving him a $50M/year deal for the next 5 years, especially after what happened when they did that with Wall
This is the wrong time to get cold feet with Beal the fire was hottest to move him last year after back to back 30 point seasons. They are in it now but I agree I think the last 2 years of that deal will feel like Westbrook deal now.
Of course. The only thing missing from Murray's pic yesterday was him wearing a Knicks hat.
Im perfectly fine with the FO setting a value on the player and sticking to it. If the Hawks trade 4 or 3 with no protections or whatever then so be it.
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In comment 15743896 Doubledeuce22 said:
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And trying to convince Beal to come to NY would be ideal, no?
I'm not a big Beal fan. I think he's tremendously overrated and has had some injury issues in recent years. If I was the Wizards I'd be scared shitless of giving him a $50M/year deal for the next 5 years, especially after what happened when they did that with Wall
This is the wrong time to get cold feet with Beal the fire was hottest to move him last year after back to back 30 point seasons. They are in it now but I agree I think the last 2 years of that deal will feel like Westbrook deal now.
I asked this before but I don't think it was answered. Did Beal have a no trade clause? I could have sworn he was adamant about staying in Washington.
What's the salary match for Murray I don't think they want Fournier.
Rose and Grimes plus picks?
No reason not to opt out either way he is getting 40 million this year somewhere, Washington and do a sign and trade to get someone under the cap for the 250
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mess around. And, FWIW, he's traditionally been pretty plugged in with the Knicks.
What's the salary match for Murray I don't think they want Fournier.
Rose and Grimes plus picks?
could be. Could be they trade him into cap space if the Brunson transaction becomes a sign-and-trade involving Detroit. Or a potential Murray trade could even involve the already agreed to Detroit trade. None of these moves are "final". Knicks could operate as an over the cap team or under the cap. Lots of moving parts....
248 over 5 from the Wizards, 4 for 184 from anybody else. He'd be pretty loco to pass on 64 million more guaranteed.
He’s a proven winner (two-time NCAA champion) and a dependable personality, which is significant for a franchise that seems perpetually unstable. Brunson provides something the Knicks backcourt has sorely missed – a facilitator and playmaker who can create shots for himself and thrive with ball screens.
His defense is suspect, however. Opposing teams often targeted Brunson, who isn’t an elite athlete, which makes a backcourt with Evan Fournier troubling, especially with Tom Thibodeau’s defensive demands.
The plot thickens.
Very nice
2 years at 16 million per gives you options to flip if a star comes free
Grab murray, bring back mitch, move randle and get a stretch 4. You know who would fit well, Porzingis, lol.
If they actually trade for him, there's no way he wasn't privy to their plans and signed off on it
If i am Brunson i am happy, takes a ton of pressure off of him
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The Atlanta Hawks are trading Danilo Gallinari and multiple first-round picks to the San Antonio Spurs for All-Star guard Dejounte Murray, sources tell ESPN.
Murray can set up Young all-day
Murray can set up Young all-day
I'm not sure I love the fit. Trae's usage is very high and he's at his best with the ball in his hands, making things happen. I'm sure they'll figure it out but on paper it doesn't seem perfect
:)
Next year's draft has what most see as a generational player at the top.
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That's a tough back court in ATL.
Murray can set up Young all-day
I'm not sure I love the fit. Trae's usage is very high and he's at his best with the ball in his hands, making things happen. I'm sure they'll figure it out but on paper it doesn't seem perfect
IDK Murray is a solid penetrator and kick guy.
Plus he does the dirty work like rebounds and defense that young doesn't.
He definitely can give young some space and keep him fresh
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why is SA willing to trade him?
Next year's draft has what most see as a generational player at the top.
No offense but what does that have to do with trading Murray? I you saying SA is gonna tank like they did for Duncan? Lol
If Trae doesn't do that, then this fit will look kind of shaky. But if I were a Hawks fan, I'm happy at the thought of Trae being able to grow his off-ball game.
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why is SA willing to trade him?
Next year's draft has what most see as a generational player at the top.
I don't think that's the only reason. It's a nice goal but with the flattened lottery odds at only 14%, it's far from a given. Murray's value is probably higher than it'll ever be right now with 2 years left on his deal coming off a breakout season. He's going to opt out after this deal and they risk losing him for nothing because the only extension they can offer him is like $22M/year which there's no way he'd take.
Sexton?