Trying to consolidate the threads. Lots of speculation on those threads but the more solid stuff is:
-Expectation is Brunson will sign with the Knicks on a 4/110 mill deal.
-Mitch rumored to be around 4/60 but there seems to be a lot of debate on that
-Knicks have about 30 mill available but can get to around 37 easily.
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why is SA willing to trade him?
Next year's draft has what most see as a generational player at the top.
No offense but what does that have to do with trading Murray? I you saying SA is gonna tank like they did for Duncan? Lol
If you were going to tank, it would look at lot like what SA is doing, trading a 26 year old all star PG for Danilo gallinari's corpse and picks.
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In comment 15743953 robbieballs2003 said:
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why is SA willing to trade him?
Next year's draft has what most see as a generational player at the top.
No offense but what does that have to do with trading Murray? I you saying SA is gonna tank like they did for Duncan? Lol
If you were going to tank, it would look at lot like what SA is doing, trading a 26 year old all star PG for Danilo gallinari's corpse and picks.
It's just very odd that it seems rushed.
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the Knicks are trying to upgrade the 2 guard position
Sexton?
Would be an awful fit
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the Knicks are trying to upgrade the 2 guard position
Sexton?
FWIW Sam Quinn thinks Sexton is extremely underrated with substantial untapped upside.
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The Hawks are sending a 2023 first-round pick via Charlotte, and their own 2025 and 2027 first-round picks to the Spurs in the deal, sources tell ESPN. Spurs will also get a pick swap in 2026.
2027 first
2026 first swap
2023 Charlotte first (protected)
If Cleveland has a SexLand backcourt then I bet the D is good.
That doesn't mean Sexton is as good as Booker. It does mean that he probably still has untapped potential in the right environment. Booker became Booker when he started playing next to Chris Paul. What happens if Sexton finds his own Paul? He probably won't this summer if his $20 million asking price is to be believed. No player with his reputation is going to make that much coming off of a torn ACL. So here's a prediction: if Sexton doesn't find a sign-and-trade (and the guard-needy Wizards look like a possible landing spot), he takes the qualifying offer and picks a new home next offseason. It's entirely possible that he's traded before that. Cleveland added Caris LeVert at the deadline in part to serve as Sexton insurance.
His D is amongst the worst in the league as far as starting players go. Fournier very well might be a better defender
James Harden: 9.2
Trae Young: 8.7
Darius Garland: 7.7
Ja Morant: 7.6
Chris Paul: 7.4
DeJounte Murray: 7.4
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander: 7.3
Damian Lillard: 7.2
Those were the only guys above 7 minutes in terms of TOP last year. These are the guys who pound the rock constantly and define the word "ball-dominant". The Hawks now have #3 and #7 on that list on the same team.
It will be very interesting to see how Murray/Trae adjust to each other.
Im pretty surprised that was the best they could do.
Im pretty surprised that was the best they could do.
I was thinking the same thing. Average draft slot of those Hawks picks will likely be about in line with what the Knicks got for 11 assuming things don't go sideways over there
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The Hawks are sending a 2023 first-round pick via Charlotte, and their own 2025 and 2027 first-round picks to the Spurs in the deal, sources tell ESPN. Spurs will also get a pick swap in 2026.
guessing 25 and 27 are unprotectex..
Wonder if Knicks insisted on Fournier
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he is a much better shooter then Murray. How is his D? The cost on him would be a hell of a lot less then Murray. Although he is another ball dominant player...plus you would force CLE to break up the SexLand backcourt.
If Cleveland has a SexLand backcourt then I bet the D is good.
LOL...well played sir
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The Hawks are sending a 2023 first-round pick via Charlotte, and their own 2025 and 2027 first-round picks to the Spurs in the deal, sources tell ESPN. Spurs will also get a pick swap in 2026.
we have no business sending out unprotected picks for anyone unless it's for an all-nba type.
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Have to think the Knicks didn't have real interest
we have no business sending out unprotected picks for anyone unless it's for an all-nba type.
The Knicks could've beaten that offer purely in volume of picks. The 3 from draft night, Mavs pick and one lightly protected Knicks first is a much better package
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Have to think the Knicks didn't have real interest
we have no business sending out unprotected picks for anyone unless it's for an all-nba type.
The Knicks could've beaten that offer purely in volume of picks. The 3 from draft night, Mavs pick and one lightly protected Knicks first is a much better package
They probably wanted unprotected
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Have to think the Knicks didn't have real interest
we have no business sending out unprotected picks for anyone unless it's for an all-nba type.
The Knicks could've beaten that offer purely in volume of picks. The 3 from draft night, Mavs pick and one lightly protected Knicks first is a much better package
quality, or potential quality, beats quantity
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In comment 15743985 Strahan91 said:
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Have to think the Knicks didn't have real interest
we have no business sending out unprotected picks for anyone unless it's for an all-nba type.
The Knicks could've beaten that offer purely in volume of picks. The 3 from draft night, Mavs pick and one lightly protected Knicks first is a much better package
quality, or potential quality, beats quantity
I don't think this makes sense as the Hawks are gonna be really good and picking low. If what was said above is true about next year's draft, this probably means they just want a guaranteed pick in next year's draft over a maybe with the protections.
quality, or potential quality, beats quantity
It's not potential quality though. The Mavs pick will convey this year and the Charlotte pick many people lambasted the Knicks for acquiring because it can turn into 2nd rounders. A top 10 protected Knicks pick this year would've been a better asset than any of the picks the Hawks traded.
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quality, or potential quality, beats quantity
It's not potential quality though. The Mavs pick will convey this year and the Charlotte pick many people lambasted the Knicks for acquiring because it can turn into 2nd rounders. A top 10 protected Knicks pick this year would've been a better asset than any of the picks the Hawks traded.
the hit rate for picks outside the top 10 is not great. A chance at three in the top half of the lottery makes that package better than a basket of protected picks. Obviously the Hawks project to be a good team in the short term - but SA now controls their picks in 2025, 2026, and 2027. Who knows what the Hawks will look like that far out? It's a no brainer to take that over what we probably offering (if we were serious).
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Got to beat the tampering charge, and he is holding the meetings in New York..
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Free agent guard Jalen Brunson is granting meetings to Dallas Mavericks, New York Knicks and dark horse Miami Heat on first day of free agency, league sources tell
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Got to beat the tampering charge, and he is holding the meetings in New York..
That's my hope, Leon's son is doing his dad a solid to avoid tampering charges. Still I won't feel good about it until it's done. Stranger things have happened in the nba and the Mavs are sending a contingent
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Free agent guard Jalen Brunson is granting meetings to Dallas Mavericks, New York Knicks and dark horse Miami Heat on first day of free agency, league sources tell
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Got to beat the tampering charge, and he is holding the meetings in New York..
That's my hope, Leon's son is doing his dad a solid to avoid tampering charges. Still I won't feel good about it until it's done. Stranger things have happened in the nba and the Mavs are sending a contingent
agreed
As a team source just told me, he’s excited, “like he’s back at Pomona-Pitzer.”
https://twitter.com/mikefinger/status/1542267508782137344?s=20&t=Dpm1IiaFQOjsp1XWUauv1Q
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There is obviously scant optimism in Dallas that anything can be done at this juncture to dissuade Jalen Brunson from signing with New York on a four-year deal worth at least $100 million, but sources say Brunson's camp sought the meetings with Dallas and Miami and now has them.
His agent is related to Leon Rose, there is no tricking lol, i will always have that thought he will sign somewhere else, BUT this feels like a courtesy to dallas and heat to throw off the tampering..
I mean he is taking the meetings in NY
As a team source just told me, he’s excited, “like he’s back at Pomona-Pitzer.”
https://twitter.com/mikefinger/status/1542267508782137344?s=20&t=Dpm1IiaFQOjsp1XWUauv1Q
So basically the second Pop doesn’t get Wembanyama he’s retiring.
Ayton is soft and disappears
Anything can happen.