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NFT: Knicks Free Agency Eve thread

Italianju : 6/29/2022 12:09 pm
Trying to consolidate the threads. Lots of speculation on those threads but the more solid stuff is:

-Expectation is Brunson will sign with the Knicks on a 4/110 mill deal.

-Mitch rumored to be around 4/60 but there seems to be a lot of debate on that

-Knicks have about 30 mill available but can get to around 37 easily.



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RE: Lebron took his Decision in upstate NY.  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2022 6:38 pm : link
In comment 15744045 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Must mean he's signing here, right?

Anything can happen.


Yes but meetings in Ohio 😉
RE: nygiants16.  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2022 6:38 pm : link
In comment 15744046 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Solid points. I just am nervous. Like this is Christmas Eve.


so am i
RE: nygiants16.  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 6:44 pm : link
In comment 15744046 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Solid points. I just am nervous. Like this is Christmas Eve.

Just remember if he goes elsewhere, Dolan probably cleans house. Jalen would be ensuring that his dad and his godfather's/agent's dad lose their jobs
RE: RE: nygiants16.  
adamg : 6/29/2022 6:45 pm : link
In comment 15744050 Strahan91 said:
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In comment 15744046 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Solid points. I just am nervous. Like this is Christmas Eve.


Just remember if he goes elsewhere, Dolan probably cleans house. Jalen would be ensuring that his dad and his godfather's/agent's dad lose their jobs


True. How do we avoid a tampering charge though? We hired his fucking dad?
i mean im on board...  
Italianju : 6/29/2022 6:46 pm : link
with brunson, but this isnt the decision. If we miss out so be it, hopefully they have a solid plan B.
RE: Oh boy...  
The_Boss : 6/29/2022 6:46 pm : link
In comment 15744027 Strahan91 said:
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Free agent guard Jalen Brunson is granting meetings to Dallas Mavericks, New York Knicks and dark horse Miami Heat on first day of free agency, league sources tell
@YahooSports Link - ( New Window )


Riley gonna steal him from the Knicks. He’s gonna privately LOVE doing it to us too.
RE: i mean im on board...  
adamg : 6/29/2022 6:47 pm : link
In comment 15744055 Italianju said:
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with brunson, but this isnt the decision. If we miss out so be it, hopefully they have a solid plan B.


What other PG is out there? Trading for SGA seems impossible?
RE: RE: Oh boy...  
adamg : 6/29/2022 6:47 pm : link
In comment 15744056 The_Boss said:
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Riley gonna steal him from the Knicks. He’s gonna privately LOVE doing it to us too.


Can't he just let us have this one little thing? WTF
RE: RE: RE: nygiants16.  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 6:49 pm : link
In comment 15744054 adamg said:
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In comment 15744050 Strahan91 said:


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In comment 15744046 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Solid points. I just am nervous. Like this is Christmas Eve.


Just remember if he goes elsewhere, Dolan probably cleans house. Jalen would be ensuring that his dad and his godfather's/agent's dad lose their jobs



True. How do we avoid a tampering charge though? We hired his fucking dad?

People assume that this was the Knicks way of convincing Jalen to come but there were reports that Thibs tried to hire Rick on his staff when he first took the job. I assume Rick wasn't interested in coming back to the NBA then. He probably already knew Jalen was coming here and jumped at the opportunity to coach his son in the nba.
I hope he makes Riley and company fly up here for the meeting  
robbieballs2003 : 6/29/2022 6:49 pm : link
and signs with the Knicks right before it is supposed to start.
RE: RE: i mean im on board...  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 6:49 pm : link
In comment 15744057 adamg said:
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with brunson, but this isnt the decision. If we miss out so be it, hopefully they have a solid plan B.



What other PG is out there? Trading for SGA seems impossible?

We'll get Brogdon and that'll be that. This would be an epic disaster on par with the KD/Kyrie one just given what's transpired in the last week (not quality of talent).
Gents...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 6:50 pm : link
Let's face facts: if Brunson doesn't end up a Knick, it is FUBAR. His fucking old man is on our coaching staff! His old man was Leon's first hire! Rose's son is one of Jalen's agent!

This is like my daughter becoming a soccer star-I knock on wood every night-& me ending up as some GM of some women's team & she spurns me to go elsewhere.
I'd rather start IQ than bring in Brogdon  
adamg : 6/29/2022 6:51 pm : link
Ugh. Come on Brunson...
*Leon's first client,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 6:51 pm : link
not hire.
If  
AcidTest : 6/29/2022 6:53 pm : link
they miss out on Brunson, I wonder if they'd try for Coby White. I read that the Bulls were interested in trading him.
It'd be so on brand for Riles-that rat-to swoop in @ the last minute  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 6:53 pm : link
& steal Brunson.
AcidTest...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 6:54 pm : link
I watch a lot of the Bulls. Coby White...let's put it like this...I'm not going to be bouncing my grandchildren on my lap & telling them about watching Coby White.
I'd rather sign Sexton to an offer sheet than go  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 6:56 pm : link
after Brogdon or Coby White.
Maybe I’m crazy but I think there’s a .00000001%  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/29/2022 6:56 pm : link
chance he goes elsewhere.

(Although I have this perverse interest in watching people who will say he’s overpaid and overrated if he signs with the Knicks act like this is the greatest move ever if he signs elsewhere.)
Strahan,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 6:57 pm : link
I like Sexton a lot. He'd be a nice consolation piece, if it comes to that. I just don't know if Altman lets him walk.
If they miss out on Brunson  
Carl in CT : 6/29/2022 6:58 pm : link
I’d fire his ass.
If they miss out on Brunson  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2022 6:59 pm : link
Rose and Wes should be fires immediately
I dont think Leon Rose recovers from missing out on Brunson  
Giantfan21 : 6/29/2022 6:59 pm : link
( if it happens ).Not that hes an all NBA player but you just had a terrible FA class last season which caused you to dump 3 of those players using 6 2nd rounders plus passing on drafting a lottery pick, to clear cap space to open room for Brunson only to not get him in the long run.

Would be terrible optics and a gross waste of resources and dysfunction
Sexton  
Carl in CT : 6/29/2022 6:59 pm : link
Fired CAA he is with Paul.
Man...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:00 pm : link
I might hit up liquor store tomorrow after work if I see a Woj or Shams 'Brunson leaning towards Heat' Tweet. Haha.
RE: I dont think Leon Rose recovers from missing out on Brunson  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 7:00 pm : link
In comment 15744075 Giantfan21 said:
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( if it happens ).Not that hes an all NBA player but you just had a terrible FA class last season which caused you to dump 3 of those players using 6 2nd rounders plus passing on drafting a lottery pick, to clear cap space to open room for Brunson only to not get him in the long run.

Would be terrible optics and a gross waste of resources and dysfunction

Agreed. No chance Rose and co keep their jobs if Brunson goes elsewhere, nor should they
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:01 pm : link
I think Brunson will end up a Knick, but I never like when Riles gets involved. The man has the pelts on the wall...throw in Spo-who I think is a tremendous coach-& that 'Heat Culture'...it gets me nervous.
How does Miami even get him?  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2022 7:02 pm : link
they sign and trading Herro for Brunson?
RE: How does Miami even get him?  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 7:02 pm : link
In comment 15744080 nygiants16 said:
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they sign and trading Herro for Brunson?

Wouldn't work cap-wise. Would have to be Lowry or Dallas would have to be willing to take Duncan Robinson
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:03 pm : link
If Brunson doesn't end up in NY-after all we did to acquire him...I might not watch ESPN or listen to basketball pods for a month because it'll be brutal, and justifiably so.
RE: ...  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 7:04 pm : link
In comment 15744082 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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If Brunson doesn't end up in NY-after all we did to acquire him...I might not watch ESPN or listen to basketball pods for a month because it'll be brutal, and justifiably so.

It's gonna be bad if they do sign him too, because #LOLKnicks. Just for a few days though, if he goes elsewhere it'll last for quite some time
RE: ...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/29/2022 7:06 pm : link
In comment 15744082 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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If Brunson doesn't end up in NY-after all we did to acquire him...I might not watch ESPN or listen to basketball pods for a month because it'll be brutal, and justifiably so.


The Rangers run (as well as this totally unexpected Yankees start) took a lot of that edge off. I’ll be okay no matter what.
RE: RE: How does Miami even get him?  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2022 7:07 pm : link
In comment 15744081 Strahan91 said:
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they sign and trading Herro for Brunson?


Wouldn't work cap-wise. Would have to be Lowry or Dallas would have to be willing to take Duncan Robinson


I just dont think it works with Miami, but who knows..Funny yeaterday it aounded like a done deal and now that hr is taking meetings it feela like they arent getting him
I'm sure Miami just wants to drive the price up  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 7:11 pm : link
for the Knicks
Strahan91.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:13 pm : link
Yeah, I've been listening to some pods laughing @ the Knicks for spending so much on Brunson, which I don't get. He's not getting paid like $50 million like Beal. You wanna laugh @ a contract? Laugh @ the Wiz shelling out 1/2 $100 million for a dude who-as the main star-gets you what, a possible play in spot? Like GTFO.
the Knicks are in way better shape than Washington is  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 7:17 pm : link
and they've been poorly run for years now but they don't get nearly as much flack as the Knicks do
Ok murray 3 firsts and Dino  
Carl in CT : 6/29/2022 7:20 pm : link
(Who is not very good). You are telling me Reddish or Obi and those picks couldn’t get it done? Murray Brunson RJB Randle (with our bench) we could have competed. Just plain dumb. Also It would have put no doubt with Brunson with his talent making his decision easier. This is really going to suck I feel it.
Strahan91.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:21 pm : link
1) We're based in NY, 2) We have a huge & restless fanbase, & 3) Our owner makes an ass out of himself seemingly every other day. Like our owner banned for a year one of our most beloved players (Oakley) from our glory years from going to MSG. How fucking tone deaf can Jimmy be?
kick the tires?  
Strahan91 : 6/29/2022 7:25 pm : link
Michael Scotto
@MikeAScotto
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56m
Sources: The Atlanta Hawks won’t tender a qualifying offer to forward Kevin Knox,
@hoopshype
has learned. Knox, who was ninth overall pick by the Knicks in the 2018 draft, will become an unrestricted free agent.
RE: If  
BigBlueShock : 6/29/2022 7:29 pm : link
In comment 15744067 AcidTest said:
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they miss out on Brunson, I wonder if they'd try for Coby White. I read that the Bulls were interested in trading him.

Hell no to Coby White. The dude plays like he thinks he’s Trae Young. The problem is, he’s not any good. But he damn sure thinks he is
RE: kick the tires?  
Mike from SI : 6/29/2022 7:30 pm : link
In comment 15744096 Strahan91 said:
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Michael Scotto
@MikeAScotto
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56m
Sources: The Atlanta Hawks won’t tender a qualifying offer to forward Kevin Knox,
@hoopshype
has learned. Knox, who was ninth overall pick by the Knicks in the 2018 draft, will become an unrestricted free agent.


I'd rather kick myself in the face.
Throw all the money at Bridges  
Carl in CT : 6/29/2022 7:32 pm : link
If lose out on Brunson. We will figure the roster later get the kid cause he can play.
Knox sucks.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:33 pm : link
& this is the same dude who thought he was a steal in Summer League the month after we drafted him, Haha.
RE: RE: RE: How does Miami even get him?  
BigBlueShock : 6/29/2022 7:36 pm : link
In comment 15744086 nygiants16 said:
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they sign and trading Herro for Brunson?


Wouldn't work cap-wise. Would have to be Lowry or Dallas would have to be willing to take Duncan Robinson



I just dont think it works with Miami, but who knows..Funny yeaterday it aounded like a done deal and now that hr is taking meetings it feela like they arent getting him

Don’t underestimate Cuban and Riley. It’s probably a bad conspiracy theory but we already know Cuban is pissed at the Knicks. He’d probably go to great lengths at this point to screw up their master plan. If they really wanted to, Miami and Dallas can absolutely team up on a sign and trade. It would take some creativity but it can be done
BBS.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:41 pm : link
Yeah, I feel the same...if Riles is involved, I'm on edge. Throw in Cuban...I'll be sweating until Brunson signs with the Knicks, God willing.
I just hope it isnt drawn out  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2022 7:42 pm : link
Make a decision tomorrow please
nygiants16.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:47 pm : link
If it's drawn out...no bueno for us.
RE: BBS.  
BigBlueShock : 6/29/2022 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15744110 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Yeah, I feel the same...if Riles is involved, I'm on edge. Throw in Cuban...I'll be sweating until Brunson signs with the Knicks, God willing.

Yep. It could be patience or it could be incompetence, but we haven’t seen Rose and company close a deal on a big time FA or trade yet. But no matter which perspective you take, he’s in over his head if he’s competing with Riley. Add a scorned Cuban to the mix and this can realistically go sideways in an instant
RE: RE: BBS.  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2022 7:52 pm : link
In comment 15744117 BigBlueShock said:
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Yeah, I feel the same...if Riles is involved, I'm on edge. Throw in Cuban...I'll be sweating until Brunson signs with the Knicks, God willing.


Yep. It could be patience or it could be incompetence, but we haven’t seen Rose and company close a deal on a big time FA or trade yet. But no matter which perspective you take, he’s in over his head if he’s competing with Riley. Add a scorned Cuban to the mix and this can realistically go sideways in an instant


I would still really be shocked if Brunson didnt sign with the Knicks, i still find it hard to beliece they would make moves to clear cap space like they have if they didnt have some sort of understanding..

Obviously anything can happen but id still be shocked
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:54 pm : link
We all know what Riles' pitch is going to be: 'We were 1 Buckets 3 from making the Finals. FL has no income tax or estate tax. Spo is our coach. We've won 3 titles this century while the Knicks haven't sniffed the Finals since Clinton was president. Our owner isn't a loon. Shall I go on?'

Again, I'm fairly confident Brunson ends up a Knick, but Riles getting involved has me on edge.
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