Trying to consolidate the threads. Lots of speculation on those threads but the more solid stuff is:
-Expectation is Brunson will sign with the Knicks on a 4/110 mill deal.
-Mitch rumored to be around 4/60 but there seems to be a lot of debate on that
-Knicks have about 30 mill available but can get to around 37 easily.
Whereas before it was a few days of questioning if the move of worth it, followed by if it doesn't happen then everyone in the front office from the GM to the mailroom clerk must be taken out back and dumped in the east river with cement overshoes.
Now it's "Oh my goodness, lets image everyway it can go wrong"
God, Isiah was a disaster here.
I didnt lol, its different clearing space 2 days before free agency and half a year before free agency..
I also think Rose has a lot more connections than Mills had...
It would be oretty shocking for them to clear this space and nkt know what Brunsons plan is
God, Isiah was a disaster here.
Isiah could get talent, the problem was he had no idea how to build a team, he had Marbury and Crawford who wanted to run and get out in the open court and then added 2 slow lumbering bigs who didnt play defense..
His moves didnt make sense from a team building standpoint
I would not be surprised next year they might have to kidnap the players mother to get him to sign.
In all honesty I would be surprised if he didn't sign but I would not be upset missing out on him
Nothing is gonna shock me here,especially when the suspects are Cuban,Riley,and Leon Rose.
And they could be together for a while. Bam is 25, Herro 22, Brunson 26. Butler is the only one where age is a factor. That would be one hell of a young core. Why wouldn't Jalen want to go there and skip January and Feb in NY
And they could be together for a while. Bam is 25, Herro 22, Brunson 26. Butler is the only one where age is a factor. That would be one hell of a young core. Why wouldn't Jalen want to go there and skip January and Feb in NY
They wont be able to keep all 3..
Whereas before it was a few days of questioning if the move of worth it, followed by if it doesn't happen then everyone in the front office from the GM to the mailroom clerk must be taken out back and dumped in the east river with cement overshoes.
Now it's "Oh my goodness, lets image everyway it can go wrong"
It’s not Stockholm Syndrome. It’s reality. Unless of course you’ve been in a coma for the past few decades and haven’t paid attention to the Knicks
And they could be together for a while. Bam is 25, Herro 22, Brunson 26. Butler is the only one where age is a factor. That would be one hell of a young core. Why wouldn't Jalen want to go there and skip January and Feb in NY
This is funny since someone compared Brunson to Lowery as his comp in this thread or one of the others.
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Playing alongside Bam, Butler and Herro, he could be that complementary piece that puts them over the top.
And they could be together for a while. Bam is 25, Herro 22, Brunson 26. Butler is the only one where age is a factor. That would be one hell of a young core. Why wouldn't Jalen want to go there and skip January and Feb in NY
They wont be able to keep all 3..
Sure they will. Send Lowry to the Mavs along with two firsts
Also, Pat Reilly is CAA.
I still think Brunson ends up a Knick. But I'm more worried now that he doesn't than I was 3 hours ago.
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Playing alongside Bam, Butler and Herro, he could be that complementary piece that puts them over the top.
And they could be together for a while. Bam is 25, Herro 22, Brunson 26. Butler is the only one where age is a factor. That would be one hell of a young core. Why wouldn't Jalen want to go there and skip January and Feb in NY
They wont be able to keep all 3..
Sure they will. Send Lowry to the Mavs along with two firsts
Cant doesnt work cap wise and they are hard capped
I still think Brunson ends up a Knick. But I'm more worried now that he doesn't than I was 3 hours ago.
If Dallas is pissed enough they will go to the nba
It’s not Stockholm Syndrome. It’s reality. Unless of course you’ve been in a coma for the past few decades and haven’t paid attention to the Knicks
The dry spell for the Knicks hasn't been a few decades. Fuck it, hasn't been one decade for that matter. Yes the Melo teams didn't go as far as we hope but that was some damn good basketball. Stuff like that is why I feel we are being over dramatic about this. If he signs great, if he doesn't oh well, we have cap room to use in a trade. Plus weren't people complaining that Thibs was going to use Burkes over the youngsters again, well now he can't even if the Knicks don't get Bunson.
Trade Randle ,acquire more assets, play the kids , live with the results. If kids play well then great. If they dont and knicks end up in lottery hopefully they are able to draft a franchise player. Dont try to be a 10th seed going nowhere which is the worst place you can be in the NBA.
I am very worried they are going to go after Brogdon and other medicore Vets instead , clogging up playing time for the youth on the team while Thibs coaches every game like game 7 with a lot of young players glued to the bench .
The reason why i want Brunson is because he is 25 and i feel he still is on his way up and can grow with the youth on the team
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For the most part, the league looks the other way via tampering unless it is completely obvious. And hell, maybe this is obvious.
I still think Brunson ends up a Knick. But I'm more worried now that he doesn't than I was 3 hours ago.
If Dallas is pissed enough they will go to the nba
If I’m being honest, I don’t blame them for being pissed. If this entire scenario isn’t tampering (beginning with Rose, Randle and Co. randomly showing up in Dallas for a playoff game) then tampering doesn’t exist, lol.
I dont want to be at the end of a bidding war for this guy
Id rather pay $30mm per for a more known PG when one surfaces...and trade for a serviceable one now
So it’s your opinion that Riley is hopping on a plane to fly to NY to meet with Brunson because he’s bored?
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I dont see how the Heat are a factor, unless the mavs are willing to take Duncan Robinson back in a trade and even then they still have to sign herro..
So it’s your opinion that Riley is hopping on a plane to fly to NY to meet with Brunson because he’s bored?
Or he is CAA and he is doing a favor...
Its also possible that they do a skype interview just to say hey look i didnt go and just sign with the Knicks
The media when Riley signs him to the same deal:
“Riley strikes again! Great move landing an up-and-coming young star on a reasonable deal!”
Trade Randle ,acquire more assets, play the kids , live with the results. If kids play well then great. If they dont and knicks end up in lottery hopefully they are able to draft a franchise player. Dont try to be a 10th seed going nowhere which is the worst place you can be in the NBA.
I am very worried they are going to go after Brogdon and other medicore Vets instead , clogging up playing time for the youth on the team while Thibs coaches every game like game 7 with a lot of young players glued to the bench .
The reason why i want Brunson is because he is 25 and i feel he still is on his way up and can grow with the youth on the team
Who wants Randle for that money?
The media when Riley signs him to the same deal:
“Riley strikes again! Great move landing an up-and-coming young star on a reasonable deal!”
I was jist listening to the windhorst podcast and Tim Bontemps is ripping the Knicks for potentially signing Brunson and then goes but its a great signing for the mavs...Like wtf? its like they dont want the Knicks to be better and Windhorst goes they arent better with Brunson and he goes no they are probably worse....like dud what?
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“LOLKnicks, why are they moving heaven and earth to sign this role player?!”
The media when Riley signs him to the same deal:
“Riley strikes again! Great move landing an up-and-coming young star on a reasonable deal!”
I was jist listening to the windhorst podcast and Tim Bontemps is ripping the Knicks for potentially signing Brunson and then goes but its a great signing for the mavs...Like wtf? its like they dont want the Knicks to be better and Windhorst goes they arent better with Brunson and he goes no they are probably worse....like dud what?
We have been the laughing stock of the league for a long time...fuck Windbags
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thing finally.
Trade Randle ,acquire more assets, play the kids , live with the results. If kids play well then great. If they dont and knicks end up in lottery hopefully they are able to draft a franchise player. Dont try to be a 10th seed going nowhere which is the worst place you can be in the NBA.
I am very worried they are going to go after Brogdon and other medicore Vets instead , clogging up playing time for the youth on the team while Thibs coaches every game like game 7 with a lot of young players glued to the bench .
The reason why i want Brunson is because he is 25 and i feel he still is on his way up and can grow with the youth on the team
Who wants Randle for that money?
I dont know maybe they can convince other teams he would be better away from the NY spotlight and get back to the way he played 2020-2021.
IF it takes adding a 1st round pick from the multiple ones they accumulated to get rid of him then so be it. Randle is blocking OBI playing 35 minutes a night and breaking out and he gets in the way of RJ with the way he dominates the ball and forces RJ to camp at the 3 point line a lot of the game. Addition by subtraction to develop these kids
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I dont see how the Heat are a factor, unless the mavs are willing to take Duncan Robinson back in a trade and even then they still have to sign herro..
So it’s your opinion that Riley is hopping on a plane to fly to NY to meet with Brunson because he’s bored?
Riley always wants a chance to sit down with a player he has interest in. It doesn't mean anything is predetermined, but he's a salesman and a damn good one.
Because they would be filling themselves up with tier two players. The 2nd tier players don't make you a title contender and soon you are paying Barrett. It's that you're on a road to nowhere.
It's not him - but the accumulation of others.
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Yeah, I've been listening to some pods laughing @ the Knicks for spending so much on Brunson, which I don't get. He's not getting paid like $50 million like Beal. You wanna laugh @ a contract? Laugh @ the Wiz shelling out 1/2 $100 million for a dude who-as the main star-gets you what, a possible play in spot? Like GTFO.
Because they would be filling themselves up with tier two players. The 2nd tier players don't make you a title contender and soon you are paying Barrett. It's that you're on a road to nowhere.
It's not him - but the accumulation of others.
but they wouldnt be filled up lol
This is like my daughter becoming a soccer star-I knock on wood every night-& me ending up as some GM of some women's team & she spurns me to go elsewhere.
It would be a blessing. Sometiems the best moves you make are the ones that fall through.
In this case, that would be our best situation.
Brunson takes the Knicks nowhere.
Brunson is getting a lot of money if he signs despite some on here trying to twist otherwise.
Brunson takes the Knicks nowhere.
The Knicks are going nowhere in 2022-2023 and now all you've done is fill up cap space for a team that is going nowhere.
The chance Brunson is going to attract a superstar is pretty laughable.
Without attracting the super player, where are the Knicks going?
Why not let the next superstar decide who he wants to play with instead of FORCING the superstar to play with Brunson and Randle?
What's the thrill of watching at best "mediocrity?" So you could BRAG that the pg is averaging 20/7?
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It's not him - but the accumulation of others.
but they wouldnt be filled up lol
To less politely follow up on what nygiants16 said. Why the fuck are people assuming that Bunson is the end game for the Knicks and that they will not be able to make any other moves afterwards? Why the fuck are people ignoring the fact that Knicks will have a very young lineup and their "worst" remaining veteran contract is a hell lot more movable than the Westbrook or Irving deadweights?
Plus, if the offense improves under Bunson ball-handling, you might not want to move Randle. Yeah, yeah, I know he once gave the fans a thumbs down, boo boo...
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Yeah, I've been listening to some pods laughing @ the Knicks for spending so much on Brunson, which I don't get. He's not getting paid like $50 million like Beal. You wanna laugh @ a contract? Laugh @ the Wiz shelling out 1/2 $100 million for a dude who-as the main star-gets you what, a possible play in spot? Like GTFO.
Because they would be filling themselves up with tier two players. The 2nd tier players don't make you a title contender and soon you are paying Barrett. It's that you're on a road to nowhere.
It's not him - but the accumulation of others.
but they wouldnt be filled up lol
Really? So with Randle, Brunson, --and Barrett - and Fournier next year -- they can also get a superstar?
Just hopefully it doesn’t drag out. Sign by Friday please.
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Yeah, I've been listening to some pods laughing @ the Knicks for spending so much on Brunson, which I don't get. He's not getting paid like $50 million like Beal. You wanna laugh @ a contract? Laugh @ the Wiz shelling out 1/2 $100 million for a dude who-as the main star-gets you what, a possible play in spot? Like GTFO.
Because they would be filling themselves up with tier two players. The 2nd tier players don't make you a title contender and soon you are paying Barrett. It's that you're on a road to nowhere.
It's not him - but the accumulation of others.
but they wouldnt be filled up lol
Really? So with Randle, Brunson, --and Barrett - and Fournier next year -- they can also get a superstar?
yeah pretty easily actually
Just hopefully it doesn’t drag out. Sign by Friday please.
That would happen Lol
No all reports were they were trying to pair Murray with Brunson, i think if they thought there was a chance they were losing Brunson they would of went harder or we woukd hear rumors of Brogdon
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It's not him - but the accumulation of others.
but they wouldnt be filled up lol
To less politely follow up on what nygiants16 said. Why the fuck are people assuming that Bunson is the end game for the Knicks and that they will not be able to make any other moves afterwards? Why the fuck are people ignoring the fact that Knicks will have a very young lineup and their "worst" remaining veteran contract is a hell lot more movable than the Westbrook or Irving deadweights?
Plus, if the offense improves under Bunson ball-handling, you might not want to move Randle. Yeah, yeah, I know he once gave the fans a thumbs down, boo boo...
Exactly...as.long as we are moving in the right direction and don't make any stupid lengthy contract moves I am.ok
Good young core...salary cap.space
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It's not him - but the accumulation of others.
but they wouldnt be filled up lol
To less politely follow up on what nygiants16 said. Why the fuck are people assuming that Bunson is the end game for the Knicks and that they will not be able to make any other moves afterwards? Why the fuck are people ignoring the fact that Knicks will have a very young lineup and their "worst" remaining veteran contract is a hell lot more movable than the Westbrook or Irving deadweights?
Plus, if the offense improves under Bunson ball-handling, you might not want to move Randle. Yeah, yeah, I know he once gave the fans a thumbs down, boo boo...
Exactly...as.long as we are moving in the right direction and don't make any stupid lengthy contract moves I am.ok
Good young core...salary cap.space
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Yeah, I've been listening to some pods laughing @ the Knicks for spending so much on Brunson, which I don't get. He's not getting paid like $50 million like Beal. You wanna laugh @ a contract? Laugh @ the Wiz shelling out 1/2 $100 million for a dude who-as the main star-gets you what, a possible play in spot? Like GTFO.
Because they would be filling themselves up with tier two players. The 2nd tier players don't make you a title contender and soon you are paying Barrett. It's that you're on a road to nowhere.
It's not him - but the accumulation of others.
but they wouldnt be filled up lol
Really? So with Randle, Brunson, --and Barrett - and Fournier next year -- they can also get a superstar?
yeah pretty easily actually
Typical delusion of my fellow Knicks fans.