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NFT: SUGGESTIONS FOR A TRIP TO GERMANY

johnnyb : 6/29/2022 1:30 pm
My wife and I will be traveling to germany for a two week vacation in July. BBI has always been a source of great information and once again I am asking for advice.

Out trip is for twelve days. We land in Frankfurt and immediately take a train to Heidelberg, where our daughter is staying and working for the summer. We will spend four days in Heidelberg. We have day trips planned for Strasbourg, France and Speyer, Germany. Rothenburg seems like an interesting city to visit but difficult to get to- 3 transfers and 3 1/2 hours minimum in train time. Thoughts on Rothrnburg would be appreciated.

Following our four days in Heidelberg, we are off to Munich on a Tuesday. We have a day planned to visit Neuschwanstein Castle and the area on Friday and off to Salzburg, Austria for the day on Saturday. We will visit the Dachau concentration camp just outside of Munich on Sunday.

I am hoping for restaurant and beer hall recommendations, places off the beaten path, and any other day trips that are worthwhile.

Thank you in advance. BBI suggestions are always solid and always appreciated.
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KDavies : 6/29/2022 1:36 pm : link
stop shouting
Bring your own gas  
Vanzetti : 6/29/2022 2:17 pm : link
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they hate  
pjcas18 : 6/29/2022 2:20 pm : link
yelling
Nurburgring  
Kev in Cali : 6/29/2022 2:29 pm : link
If you care about the ultimate driving experience. I've done 30 laps, and a couple "ring" taxi rides.
Speyer has a great aviation museum if you're into that kind of thing  
regulator : 6/29/2022 2:36 pm : link
in Munich, be sure to spend some time in the biergarten at the Englischer Garten, by the Chinesischer Turn (a pagoda). The park itself is busy in the summertime but be mindful of the fact that there will be a fair amount of nudists. The Augustiner Keller biergarten in town is fantastic too.
Augustiner Helles is (IMO) the best beer in the world so be sure to have plenty. In July, construction on the Oktoberfest tents at the Theresienwiese should be underway, so it's worth a stroll around that area to check those out. I also am a big fan of the Augustiner Klosterwirt for a meal... very traditional.

Enjoy and be sure to leave lots of extra time for security and baggage check at airports in Europe as there have been staffing problems and industrial actions causing headaches this summer.
oh... and do a Mike's Bikes tour in Munich  
regulator : 6/29/2022 2:38 pm : link
lots of fun and you'll hit mostly all the major sights in the span of a few hours.
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RE: Speyer has a great aviation museum if you're into that kind of thing  
johnnyb : 6/29/2022 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15743773 regulator said:
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in Munich, be sure to spend some time in the biergarten at the Englischer Garten, by the Chinesischer Turn (a pagoda). The park itself is busy in the summertime but be mindful of the fact that there will be a fair amount of nudists. The Augustiner Keller biergarten in town is fantastic too.
Augustiner Helles is (IMO) the best beer in the world so be sure to have plenty. In July, construction on the Oktoberfest tents at the Theresienwiese should be underway, so it's worth a stroll around that area to check those out. I also am a big fan of the Augustiner Klosterwirt for a meal... very traditional.

Enjoy and be sure to leave lots of extra time for security and baggage check at airports in Europe as there have been staffing problems and industrial actions causing headaches this summer.


Thank you. Exactly what I was hoping for....good advice.
Heidelberg..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/29/2022 2:44 pm : link
is an amazing place. The castle is a must see while you're there. It sounds like you don't have a car, so I was going to suggest if you do Rotenburg that you do the entire Romantic Road, but even if you do Rotenburg, it is probably only going to take you a few hours. You'll see the old wall around the city, some cool old churches and some very neat architecture. Have a Schneeballen while you're there which is basically a big, sweet ball.

You won't be terribly far from Stuttgart, where you can do the Mercedes museum.

For beer gardens, Summer is the perfect time for them. Find anyplace that looks good and pull up to a table. Each town has their special brewery they serve beer for, so I'd recommend just trying different places. We loved Munich. Probably my favorite city in Germany. Dachau was very depressing. We went on a cold, windy November day and it made it look just as stark and bitter as it likely was.

When you're at Neuschwanstein, see both castles there and get there early as busloads of tours will pack the place. Make sure to hit a couple of the small towns nearby too. Will look much like many think Germany to be.

I'd recommend going to Ulm for a day trip too. The Church there (Munster) is very gothic and a must see. Same with Koln. Lots of great architecture to see, including the big Cathedral. Ulm will be an easy train ride, Koln is a bit out of the way as it is North of Frankfurt.

Nuremberg is a nice day trip too.

If Berlin is in your plans, set aside 3 days to see the city. Lots to do there.

I've spent a lot of time in Germany and have seen a lot of cool towns. Email me if you have any specific questions and I can help
don't be making  
I Love Clams Casino : 6/29/2022 2:53 pm : link
outdated posts on BBI while you are there.....
If you meet a guy ....  
Ron from Ninerland : 6/29/2022 3:00 pm : link
who says he's an American from New Mexico but mumbles in Spanish to dogs.... Run!!
I got nothing for you Johnnyb ...  
short lease : 6/29/2022 3:24 pm : link

Just wanted to wish you a safe trip and to tell you to have a GREAT time.



Hofabrauhaus was the most famous when I was there  
George from PA : 6/29/2022 3:32 pm : link
What I remember.....I had a blast
I hope  
BobOnLI : 6/29/2022 3:34 pm : link
You and your wife are in good physical condition because it sounds like a very ambitious agenda. Don’t forget to give yourself the first day to adjust to jet lag. Ideally stay awake until early evening day one, if you nap during the day your body may not adjust to local time for several days. The Technical Meuseum in Munich is justly famous. Have fun!
was station in Berlin...  
BCD : 6/29/2022 3:39 pm : link
great place to go...million places to go and see.
Was just there for work  
rasbutant : 6/29/2022 4:19 pm : link
Went to Stuttgart, Heidelberg, Black Forest road trip.

The Neuschwanstein Castle requires reservations now. We didn't know this and it was sold out on the weekend and I wasn't able to go, luckily we looked it up before driving all the way there.

Sounds like you have a good plan. I went to the Black Forest and had some German Black Forest Cake. Baden-Baden is a high end spa town with natural thermal bath if you are into that kind of thing. Have to go to a spa to enjoy them though, so I didn't actually see them, as I was on a work trip and with co-workers. Nice little town though either way.

Schönbuch Brewery was great, located near Stuttgart, they may have other locations. The pork knuckle was picture worthy. https://www.braumanufaktur.com/

Probably not what you are going for, but the locals pointed us to this Jamaican Jerk Shack that was amazing... https://www.facebook.com/Patricks.Stop/ again in Stuttgart. Couldn't eat German food the whole time there, that gets old quick.

Heidelberg is awesome, just walk around and pick a place that speaks to you, can't go wrong.

Oh yeah, the Italian food is amazing...it doesn't stop at the border if you know what I mean.

Water cost almost as much as beer...seriously.
Rotenburg  
Kevin999 : 6/29/2022 4:41 pm : link
I made the trip to Rotenburg from Munich. The trains run like clockwork so dont be nervous about missing a train if the previous one arrives late. The wait between trains like less than 5 min for the transfers. Def worth going.
In Munich find time to go to the Dallmayr deli, I would go back to Munich just to go to this deli.
For the castle, if you want to do a tour inside, make sure you buy tickets in advance, they sell out days if not weeks prior.

In Munich  
GiantSteps : 6/29/2022 5:27 pm : link
go to the Schneider Brauhaus, home of Aventinus, greatest beer in the world.

This restaurant is one of my happy places. Get some pretzels with the house made mustards. Get multiple Aventinus. I love going for it all and getting the steak frites. I promise you will be glad for it. Worth every penny, and you won't get Aventinus any fresher than there. THE BEST.
We just got back from our umpteenth trip to Germany and there are a  
Spider56 : 6/29/2022 5:37 pm : link
lot of good suggestions in these posts, unfortunately with your itinerary you’ll be doing it at whirlwind pace... my 2 cents:

Heidelberg is great. Take the short cruise on the Neckar River for a different view of the castle.

Strasbourg is a must.

Can’t comment on Speyer, but I would do a day trip to Baden-Baden (the casino tour in the am and then 4 hrs in the Caracalla spa) and a day trip to Mainz ... the old town, the Cathedral and the Gutenberg Museum.

Rothenburg is too far and Stuttgart is too big to do justice.

In Munich ... fully agree Augustiner Helles is the best beer. A ‘Radler’ (Helles mixed with lemonade) is a popular choice with the ladies. You can get a great, authentic, local meal in any of the many Augustiner branded restaurants. Paulaner is a popular second choice ... the Hofbrauhaus is for tourists only. The subways are clean, safe, cheap and very easy to use, but you can walk to most of the best attractions. Be careful of Pickpockets in Marienplatz ... at times, it can feel like Times Square. Do not miss the ‘Eisbachwelle’, a year round river surfing spot at the tip of the English Gardens, which is the Munich version of Central Park. Munich also has the best pretzels and wursts.

When you go to Neuschwanstein, be sure to visit the adjacent summer toboggan run, and Hohenschwangau Castle, many consider it a better tour

Salzburg is a must stop ...Schnitzel and Strudel. if you have an extra day, Berchestgarten and Hitler’s Eagle’s Nest is well worth it.

Lastly, eat as many meals as you can outside. People watch and take it all in.
RE: I got nothing for you Johnnyb ...  
johnnyb : 6/29/2022 7:29 pm : link
In comment 15743822 short lease said:
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Just wanted to wish you a safe trip and to tell you to have a GREAT time.




Thank you sir. I appreiate that.
Thank you all for the many excellent recommendations.  
johnnyb : 6/29/2022 7:39 pm : link
We did purchase our tickets in advance for both Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau Castles. Not sure my wife would to the tobogan run.

I am thankful for the beer advice and I will try to drink as many as I can in the short time I am there.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/29/2022 7:46 pm : link
Spent about 48 hours in Germany-30ish of which were in Berlin- in my 20s while bouncing around Europe...definitely hit up the Brandenburg Gate if in Berlin. The Checkpoint Charlie Museum was really fascinating. We spent a couple hours in Munich, but I don't really remember anything standing out. Sadly we weren't there for Oktoberfest.
Here’s a video of the toboggan run ... you control the speed  
Spider56 : 6/29/2022 7:52 pm : link
Fast or slow ... an alternative might be a cable car trip up the Zugspitze, the highest mountain in Germany. Enjoy !!!

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RE: Here’s a video of the toboggan run ... you control the speed  
johnnyb : 6/29/2022 9:27 pm : link
In comment 15744118 Spider56 said:
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Fast or slow ... an alternative might be a cable car trip up the Zugspitze, the highest mountain in Germany. Enjoy !!! Link - ( New Window )


Reminds me of the alpine slide at Action Park back in the 1970s.
I echo Baden-Baden. Incredible day spas  
Giantgator : 6/29/2022 9:59 pm : link
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skip Frankfort  
JerrysKids : 6/29/2022 10:13 pm : link
nothing there...... Have fun and safe travels.
johnny - I hope you have your flight booked already.  
smshmth8690 : 6/29/2022 10:38 pm : link
I have a trip to Germany planned at the end of July, and the prices went up 40% in the past week, and apparently seats are filling up really quick. I have no suggestions to add, but will be reading this post intently. Have a safe trip.
my germany advice  
carl in pa : 6/30/2022 12:00 pm : link
Read Simon Winder's book Germania before you go. I wish I had.

Changing trains  
BobOnLI : 6/30/2022 1:16 pm : link
Can be a challenge since you can have as little as three minutes and the train you change to will be marked with the final destination not necessarily where you get off. Try asking when they check your ticket what you should look for at the station you make the change and don't dawdle. It can resemble LIRR Jamaica station at rush hour.
We wound up switching from a Euro trip to South America  
widmerseyebrow : 6/30/2022 1:32 pm : link
last month, but we originally intended to see some of western Germany. We planned for a base in Stuttgart for a few days to see the Mercedes and Porsche museums (supposedly fantastic and our oldest kid loves cars) and to travel to Strasbourg and Schloss Hohenzollern for day trips. This was all supposed to come after seeing Rhein Falls in transit from Switzerland.

Just some other options to consider outside of the suggestions here.
In Munich, take a stroll through Marienplatz one evening.....  
MOOPS : 7/1/2022 2:17 pm : link
and pick out a restaurant from among the dozens that are there and the surrounding streets.
Might want to tour the BMW plant in Munich if that interests you.
Dachau is a must (you know that). Easy to get to by public transportation.

Salzberg is one of my favorite places. The Obersalzberg documentation museum at the base of Eagle's Nest would normally be a must. Unfortunately it's closed while they prepare to open a new building. If you plan on a trip to Eagle's Nest check the weather. Tendency to get lost in the clouds, therefore no views. Early in the day might be best time.
Drink their Beer  
montanagiant : 7/1/2022 9:22 pm : link
No matter what town or city you go to there will be a brewery there that is at least 200 years old.
Don't overlook Dresden  
montanagiant : 7/1/2022 9:23 pm : link
The heart of early Germany. Most bombed city during WW2 and yet still a stunning city
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