Ghost trolls the Knicks threads constantly. And if he is an actual Knicks fan he or she still acts like a troll. Not worth responding. Every move is the worst and the Knicks suck and always will suck. Fresh takes daily from ghost.
Like I said,what exactly do you add to this site.Or what do you think you add.
Because at this point, I breeze right past most of your posts
Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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The Jazz gathered six first-round picks in the past 24 hours, including 7-footer Walker Kessler, the 22nd overall pick in the 2022 Draft. The Jazz plan to retool the roster around All-Star G Donovan Mitchell.
Ghost trolls the Knicks threads constantly. And if he is an actual Knicks fan he or she still acts like a troll. Not worth responding. Every move is the worst and the Knicks suck and always will suck. Fresh takes daily from ghost.
Like I said,what exactly do you add to this site.Or what do you think you add.
Because at this point, I breeze right past most of your posts
You still havent answered some of us who asked you what you wanted the Knicks to do
Obi, Quick, Grimes and 5 1sts(the 3 we just got plus 2 of our own unprotected). Do you do it? I do.
Don't think that'll do it. I bet the Knicks would have to part with at least 3 of their own picks unprotected in addition to some (maybe all) of the protected ones we have
Tony Jones
@Tjonesonthenba
League sources: For now, there are no plans by the Utah Jazz to trade star guard Donovan Mitchell. The Jazz are committed to building around him. The Jazz are not done in trade talks. Expect more activity
For a letdown but I can’t help but think we’re gonna trade for Mitchell. Brunson came here for a number of reasons I’m sure, one of them being team stability and direction. The knicks are poised to make the BIG move and Brunson was not that big move, but he allows the knicks to add that big piece.
I think it’s going to happen.
Lets see what they do that can make Mitchell happy
Tony Jones
@Tjonesonthenba
League sources: For now, there are no plans by the Utah Jazz to trade star guard Donovan Mitchell. The Jazz are committed to building around him. The Jazz are not done in trade talks. Expect more activity
Why would Mitchell stick around for a rebuild?
RE: Lets see what they do that can make Mitchell happy
For a letdown but I can’t help but think we’re gonna trade for Mitchell. Brunson came here for a number of reasons I’m sure, one of them being team stability and direction. The knicks are poised to make the BIG move and Brunson was not that big move, but he allows the knicks to add that big piece.
I think it’s going to happen.
I'm cautiously optimistic as well. He really wanted Johnny Bryant to get the Utah HC job apparently. Also has a close relationship with Leon so the Knicks should at the very least have an idea of what he's thinking (unlike with KD)
For a letdown but I can’t help but think we’re gonna trade for Mitchell. Brunson came here for a number of reasons I’m sure, one of them being team stability and direction. The knicks are poised to make the BIG move and Brunson was not that big move, but he allows the knicks to add that big piece.
I think it’s going to happen.
I'm cautiously optimistic as well. He really wanted Johnny Bryant to get the Utah HC job apparently. Also has a close relationship with Leon so the Knicks should at the very least have an idea of what he's thinking (unlike with KD)
Just make sure we keep an additional 2nd round pick after the trade to pay the tampering penalty.
Obi, Quick, Grimes and 5 1sts(the 3 we just got plus 2 of our own unprotected). Do you do it? I do.
a team of Brunson, Mitchell, Barrett, Randle, Mitch, and Fournier doesn't go far in my mind.
In the East next year I think it does. They’d also have to give one of Rose or Fournier to match salaries. And the ceiling is high if Brunson and RJ have another level to their game
I still can't get passed moving all your tradeable assets for a guy who couldn't do it with arguably a better supporting cast. A move will happen but it needs to makes sense.
Obi, Quick, Grimes and 5 1sts(the 3 we just got plus 2 of our own unprotected). Do you do it? I do.
a team of Brunson, Mitchell, Barrett, Randle, Mitch, and Fournier doesn't go far in my mind.
This is how i feel. If you have to give up Obi, Quickley, Grimes plus tons of unprotected picks and you are left with Brunson/Mitchell/RJ/Randle/Mitch how far is that getting you in the eastern conference with Boston, Milwaukee, Miami etc still around ?
I guess i am in the minority but i dont give up all those assets for Mitchell .
RE: Call me crazy but I'd rather have Obi, IQ, Grimes, and the picks.
I still can't get passed moving all your tradeable assets for a guy who couldn't do it with arguably a better supporting cast. A move will happen but it needs to makes sense.
Role players and a center who’s easily negated by small ball isn’t a particularly good supporting cast come postseason. It’s not wrong to be hesitant regarding Mitchell, but the former point should be the reason why, not the latter.
RE: RE: Call me crazy but I'd rather have Obi, IQ, Grimes, and the picks.
I still can't get passed moving all your tradeable assets for a guy who couldn't do it with arguably a better supporting cast. A move will happen but it needs to makes sense.
Role players and a center who’s easily negated by small ball isn’t a particularly good supporting cast come postseason. It’s not wrong to be hesitant regarding Mitchell, but the former point should be the reason why, not the latter.
It is more than just Mitchell though. It was other names that came up over the last couple of years like Beal. People wanted to give up our whole team for him.
Feels like Jazz leaking they want to build around Mitchell
With Mitchell. I like him a lot but is he worth 5 picks, and players with below average defense? He’s not a Lebron/Durant in their prime type. I wouldn’t have a parade If the Knicks gave up the Gobert (plus) package for Mitchell. I honestly think he’s a notch below a true franchise player superstar
Mitchell was a really good defender in college. I don't know why he's struggled so much with it in the NBA but I'd feel pretty good about Thibs making him into a solid defensive player. He has tools, it's not like Brunson who's actually relatively solid defensively but his size limits him against certain players and schemes.
With Mitchell. I like him a lot but is he worth 5 picks, and players with below average defense? He’s not a Lebron/Durant in their prime type. I wouldn’t have a parade If the Knicks gave up the Gobert (plus) package for Mitchell. I honestly think he’s a notch below a true franchise player superstar
IDK. This is a guy who averaged 32/5/5 over 20 straight playoff games while shooting 45/44/86. And he’ll be 26 years old at the beginning of next season.
The problem with the Gobert package is that it was for Gobert.
and said i want to give up 3 unprotected picks for the center who has to be taken off the court when teams go small
I’m still stunned at that package. They could’ve gotten Dejounte Murray for less who made more sense for their team and fits age-wise with Towns and Edwards.
Andy Larsen
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FWIW: I'm hearing some pushback regarding the idea that the Jazz are definitely keeping Donovan Mitchell moving forward.
Sense is that the Jazz are keeping their options open here: they could retool around Mitchell, or trade him for a massive haul to jumpstart a rebuild
He follow that up with “ In particular, watch Miami. Obviously, Kevin Durant is their No. 1 target, but if that doesn't work out, they have been and will continue to be aggressive re: Mitchell.”
Why is Miami being linked to Mitchell so much more than the Knicks? They can’t put together the package we can
Andy Larsen
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FWIW: I'm hearing some pushback regarding the idea that the Jazz are definitely keeping Donovan Mitchell moving forward.
Sense is that the Jazz are keeping their options open here: they could retool around Mitchell, or trade him for a massive haul to jumpstart a rebuild
He follow that up with “ In particular, watch Miami. Obviously, Kevin Durant is their No. 1 target, but if that doesn't work out, they have been and will continue to be aggressive re: Mitchell.”
Why is Miami being linked to Mitchell so much more than the Knicks? They can’t put together the package we can
Everybody is linked to miami, no mention of how they have no salary to send out and they dont control their draft picks...
Meanwhile Knicks have nothing and if they do make a move, they gave up to much
If I'm Sean Marks, I am looking @ what the Wolves gave up for Gobert & laughing @ what KD might fetch.
Gobert's 'defensive prowess' has always made me chuckle. I remember watching a 76ers Jazz game a year or so ago & Embiid putting up 50 on Rudy. Not saying Gobert sucks @ defense, but a tad overrated IMO.
management has some sense of what was bugging him last year, doesn't think it will continue this year, and has had a talk with Randle about being less ball-dominant. I agree with those who've said don't sell low on him.
Mitch-Randle-RJ-Grimes-Brunson - the first 5
Hartenstein-Obi-IQ-Rose - the other 4 of the 9-man rotation
That's a respectable 9-man rotation if Randle is being a team player. Big if, I know.
Depth is Sims-Reddish-Deuce plus a couple of rookie guys. I'm assuming Fournier gets traded.
If I'm Sean Marks, I am looking @ what the Wolves gave up for Gobert & laughing @ what KD might fetch.
you can only trade picks that go out 7 years - and you can't trade back to back picks. So the max offer when it comes to your own picks is typicaly 4 picks and 3 swaps. Of course you can add to that with other picks you've acquired.
But if I'm Marks & I got Phoenix on the phone...I'm asking for all the picks plus Ayton, Bridges, Cam Johnson, & maybe '93 Barkley, Haha.
This is what sometimes causes me to laugh @ these stars wanting to go to other good teams: in order for that team to obtain you, they're going to give up a haul that makes them less desirable when you step back.
a much cleaner fit with their current team imo whose age also aligns well with KAT and Edwards. Gobert is great but I don’t think he’s the guy you give up that package for.
RE: Minnesota could’ve gotten Dejounte Murray for less,
a much cleaner fit with their current team imo whose age also aligns well with KAT and Edwards. Gobert is great but I don’t think he’s the guy you give up that package for.
If true this is bizarre.
RE: Minnesota could’ve gotten Dejounte Murray for less,
a much cleaner fit with their current team imo whose age also aligns well with KAT and Edwards. Gobert is great but I don’t think he’s the guy you give up that package for.
If they are keeping Russell - where’s the fit with Russell and Edwards?
Like I said,what exactly do you add to this site.Or what do you think you add.
Because at this point, I breeze right past most of your posts
Obi, Quick, Grimes and 5 1sts(the 3 we just got plus 2 of our own unprotected). Do you do it? I do.
Easily
@wojespn
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The Jazz gathered six first-round picks in the past 24 hours, including 7-footer Walker Kessler, the 22nd overall pick in the 2022 Draft. The Jazz plan to retool the roster around All-Star G Donovan Mitchell.
Obi, Quick, Grimes and 5 1sts(the 3 we just got plus 2 of our own unprotected). Do you do it? I do.
I might be the only one, but I’m not attached to RJ Barrett in a way that I wouldn’t move him for a top tier talent.
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Ghost trolls the Knicks threads constantly. And if he is an actual Knicks fan he or she still acts like a troll. Not worth responding. Every move is the worst and the Knicks suck and always will suck. Fresh takes daily from ghost.
Like I said,what exactly do you add to this site.Or what do you think you add.
Because at this point, I breeze right past most of your posts
You still havent answered some of us who asked you what you wanted the Knicks to do
Obi, Quick, Grimes and 5 1sts(the 3 we just got plus 2 of our own unprotected). Do you do it? I do.
Don't think that'll do it. I bet the Knicks would have to part with at least 3 of their own picks unprotected in addition to some (maybe all) of the protected ones we have
Tony Jones
@Tjonesonthenba
League sources: For now, there are no plans by the Utah Jazz to trade star guard Donovan Mitchell. The Jazz are committed to building around him. The Jazz are not done in trade talks. Expect more activity
I think it’s going to happen.
Tony Jones
@Tjonesonthenba
League sources: For now, there are no plans by the Utah Jazz to trade star guard Donovan Mitchell. The Jazz are committed to building around him. The Jazz are not done in trade talks. Expect more activity
Why would Mitchell stick around for a rebuild?
Lakers too.
I think it’s going to happen.
I'm cautiously optimistic as well. He really wanted Johnny Bryant to get the Utah HC job apparently. Also has a close relationship with Leon so the Knicks should at the very least have an idea of what he's thinking (unlike with KD)
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For a letdown but I can’t help but think we’re gonna trade for Mitchell. Brunson came here for a number of reasons I’m sure, one of them being team stability and direction. The knicks are poised to make the BIG move and Brunson was not that big move, but he allows the knicks to add that big piece.
I think it’s going to happen.
I'm cautiously optimistic as well. He really wanted Johnny Bryant to get the Utah HC job apparently. Also has a close relationship with Leon so the Knicks should at the very least have an idea of what he's thinking (unlike with KD)
Just make sure we keep an additional 2nd round pick after the trade to pay the tampering penalty.
Obi, Quick, Grimes and 5 1sts(the 3 we just got plus 2 of our own unprotected). Do you do it? I do.
a team of Brunson, Mitchell, Barrett, Randle, Mitch, and Fournier doesn't go far in my mind.
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What would you guys give up for DMitch?
Obi, Quick, Grimes and 5 1sts(the 3 we just got plus 2 of our own unprotected). Do you do it? I do.
a team of Brunson, Mitchell, Barrett, Randle, Mitch, and Fournier doesn't go far in my mind.
In the East next year I think it does. They’d also have to give one of Rose or Fournier to match salaries. And the ceiling is high if Brunson and RJ have another level to their game
Yeah, and that's just one concern.
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What would you guys give up for DMitch?
Obi, Quick, Grimes and 5 1sts(the 3 we just got plus 2 of our own unprotected). Do you do it? I do.
a team of Brunson, Mitchell, Barrett, Randle, Mitch, and Fournier doesn't go far in my mind.
This is how i feel. If you have to give up Obi, Quickley, Grimes plus tons of unprotected picks and you are left with Brunson/Mitchell/RJ/Randle/Mitch how far is that getting you in the eastern conference with Boston, Milwaukee, Miami etc still around ?
I guess i am in the minority but i dont give up all those assets for Mitchell .
Role players and a center who’s easily negated by small ball isn’t a particularly good supporting cast come postseason. It’s not wrong to be hesitant regarding Mitchell, but the former point should be the reason why, not the latter.
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I still can't get passed moving all your tradeable assets for a guy who couldn't do it with arguably a better supporting cast. A move will happen but it needs to makes sense.
Role players and a center who’s easily negated by small ball isn’t a particularly good supporting cast come postseason. It’s not wrong to be hesitant regarding Mitchell, but the former point should be the reason why, not the latter.
It is more than just Mitchell though. It was other names that came up over the last couple of years like Beal. People wanted to give up our whole team for him.
Windy called this yesterday and today said hed be shocked if Mitchell doesnt want out, also said GMs are gearing up to get Mitchell
Mitchell was a really good defender in college. I don't know why he's struggled so much with it in the NBA but I'd feel pretty good about Thibs making him into a solid defensive player. He has tools, it's not like Brunson who's actually relatively solid defensively but his size limits him against certain players and schemes.
Mitchell is the same height as Brunson.
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He has tools, it's not like Brunson who's actually relatively solid defensively but his size limits him against certain players and schemes.
Mitchell is the same height as Brunson.
Mitchell has a 6'10 wingspan, Brunson has a 6'3 wingspan. Huge difference. He's also a much better athlete
IDK. This is a guy who averaged 32/5/5 over 20 straight playoff games while shooting 45/44/86. And he’ll be 26 years old at the beginning of next season.
The problem with the Gobert package is that it was for Gobert.
@andyblarsen
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FWIW: I'm hearing some pushback regarding the idea that the Jazz are definitely keeping Donovan Mitchell moving forward.
Sense is that the Jazz are keeping their options open here: they could retool around Mitchell, or trade him for a massive haul to jumpstart a rebuild
@andyblarsen
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FWIW: I'm hearing some pushback regarding the idea that the Jazz are definitely keeping Donovan Mitchell moving forward.
Sense is that the Jazz are keeping their options open here: they could retool around Mitchell, or trade him for a massive haul to jumpstart a rebuild
he is gone they are not going to announce it, I just hope the deal to Brunson doesn't stop us from making the move.
I’m still stunned at that package. They could’ve gotten Dejounte Murray for less who made more sense for their team and fits age-wise with Towns and Edwards.
@andyblarsen
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FWIW: I'm hearing some pushback regarding the idea that the Jazz are definitely keeping Donovan Mitchell moving forward.
Sense is that the Jazz are keeping their options open here: they could retool around Mitchell, or trade him for a massive haul to jumpstart a rebuild
He follow that up with “ In particular, watch Miami. Obviously, Kevin Durant is their No. 1 target, but if that doesn't work out, they have been and will continue to be aggressive re: Mitchell.”
Why is Miami being linked to Mitchell so much more than the Knicks? They can’t put together the package we can
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Andy Larsen
@andyblarsen
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FWIW: I'm hearing some pushback regarding the idea that the Jazz are definitely keeping Donovan Mitchell moving forward.
Sense is that the Jazz are keeping their options open here: they could retool around Mitchell, or trade him for a massive haul to jumpstart a rebuild
He follow that up with “ In particular, watch Miami. Obviously, Kevin Durant is their No. 1 target, but if that doesn't work out, they have been and will continue to be aggressive re: Mitchell.”
Why is Miami being linked to Mitchell so much more than the Knicks? They can’t put together the package we can
Everybody is linked to miami, no mention of how they have no salary to send out and they dont control their draft picks...
Meanwhile Knicks have nothing and if they do make a move, they gave up to much
Gobert's 'defensive prowess' has always made me chuckle. I remember watching a 76ers Jazz game a year or so ago & Embiid putting up 50 on Rudy. Not saying Gobert sucks @ defense, but a tad overrated IMO.
Mitch-Randle-RJ-Grimes-Brunson - the first 5
Hartenstein-Obi-IQ-Rose - the other 4 of the 9-man rotation
That's a respectable 9-man rotation if Randle is being a team player. Big if, I know.
Depth is Sims-Reddish-Deuce plus a couple of rookie guys. I'm assuming Fournier gets traded.
you can only trade picks that go out 7 years - and you can't trade back to back picks. So the max offer when it comes to your own picks is typicaly 4 picks and 3 swaps. Of course you can add to that with other picks you've acquired.
This is what sometimes causes me to laugh @ these stars wanting to go to other good teams: in order for that team to obtain you, they're going to give up a haul that makes them less desirable when you step back.
Gobert is incredibly overrated.
If true this is bizarre.
If they are keeping Russell - where’s the fit with Russell and Edwards?