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NFT: Jalen Brunson cancels ALL meetings except Knicks

DanMetroMan : 6/30/2022 5:01 pm
Oh baby!
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RE: What is wojnarowski talking about?  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2022 7:45 pm : link
In comment 15745229 larryflower37 said:
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This was 30 minutes ago

Free agent guard Jalen Brunson, armed with a five-year, $106M-plus Mavericks offer, is headed into a meeting with the New York Knicks within the hour, sources tell ESPN.



Woj is CAA
RE: What is wojnarowski talking about?  
steve in ky : 6/30/2022 7:45 pm : link
In comment 15745229 larryflower37 said:
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This was 30 minutes ago

Free agent guard Jalen Brunson, armed with a five-year, $106M-plus Mavericks offer, is headed into a meeting with the New York Knicks within the hour, sources tell ESPN.


Odd
Probably to provide deniability for tampering charges  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/30/2022 7:46 pm : link
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Still don't see official Brunson signing.  
jmalls23 : 6/30/2022 7:46 pm : link
Where is it already???
Still don't see official Brunson signing.  
jmalls23 : 6/30/2022 7:46 pm : link
Where is it already???
Still don't see official Brunson signing.  
jmalls23 : 6/30/2022 7:47 pm : link
Where is it already??? Getting nervous
Nothing is going to be final until later.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/30/2022 7:48 pm : link
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Still don't see official Brunson signing.  
adamg : 6/30/2022 7:48 pm : link
Where is it already???
RE: RE: Per  
ajr2456 : 6/30/2022 7:49 pm : link
In comment 15745233 Mike in NJ said:
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Life long Knicks fan and friend of Donovan Mitchell…. He wants to play in Miami. Not the Knicks



Fat Joe is a source now?


Fat Joe denies it lol. Was put out there by a Nets writer
Yeah, THE Fat Joe denied it.  
Anakim : 6/30/2022 7:56 pm : link
Must've been some other fat Joe
RE: Still don't see official Brunson signing.  
Anakim : 6/30/2022 7:57 pm : link
In comment 15745250 adamg said:
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Where is it already???


Could be that the Knicks are engaged with the Mavericks regarding a S&T. That might be the hangup.
It's a Nets reporter lol  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/30/2022 7:57 pm : link
Willing to hand them another L today.
RE: RE: Still don't see official Brunson signing.  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2022 8:00 pm : link
In comment 15745256 Anakim said:
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Where is it already???



Could be that the Knicks are engaged with the Mavericks regarding a S&T. That might be the hangup.


wont be official until the 6th
All other signings  
jmalls23 : 6/30/2022 8:04 pm : link
Say agent: so and so signs X
RE: RE: RE: Still don't see official Brunson signing.  
Anakim : 6/30/2022 8:05 pm : link
In comment 15745263 nygiants16 said:
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Where is it already???



Could be that the Knicks are engaged with the Mavericks regarding a S&T. That might be the hangup.



wont be official until the 6th


Yeah, but they could still agree to a trade in principle
all the talk  
santacruzom : 6/30/2022 8:07 pm : link
of Brunson not being a #1 on a championship team may be true, but that dude's a bad MF'er. You definitely don't get worse having a guy like that on your team.
@robbie  
Giantfan21 : 6/30/2022 8:09 pm : link
The issue is with signing Hartenstein and possibly Mitch , Randle will not be able to play with Obi because there will be no Center minutes available now.

That leaves at best even if Randle gets a reduced role , 16 minutes for Obi which is just not good enough for the way he played at the end of last season .

Obi starts and Reddish can play some 4 and/or frankly im not too worried about them finding a backup 4 between now and the start of the season either in FA or in a trade
RE: RE: RE: RE: Still don't see official Brunson signing.  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2022 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15745267 Anakim said:
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Where is it already???



Could be that the Knicks are engaged with the Mavericks regarding a S&T. That might be the hangup.



wont be official until the 6th



Yeah, but they could still agree to a trade in principle


I dont know the rules on that, i am sure it woukd leak if its being talked about
RE: RE: RE: Per  
BigBlueShock : 6/30/2022 8:22 pm : link
In comment 15745251 ajr2456 said:
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Life long Knicks fan and friend of Donovan Mitchell…. He wants to play in Miami. Not the Knicks



Fat Joe is a source now?



Fat Joe denies it lol. Was put out there by a Nets writer

A Nets writer? What, there is nothing more important going on in Nets land? Everyone wants out, so let’s try to change the focus and make things up about the Knicks. Fucking pathetic
RE: @robbie  
robbieballs2003 : 6/30/2022 8:24 pm : link
In comment 15745274 Giantfan21 said:
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The issue is with signing Hartenstein and possibly Mitch , Randle will not be able to play with Obi because there will be no Center minutes available now.

That leaves at best even if Randle gets a reduced role , 16 minutes for Obi which is just not good enough for the way he played at the end of last season .

Obi starts and Reddish can play some 4 and/or frankly im not too worried about them finding a backup 4 between now and the start of the season either in FA or in a trade


This is probably how it will play out but we don't need to play our centers. Obi and Randle can play the 4/5. It is all dependent upon matchups. There are plenty of opportunities in today's NBA. Most bigs aren't offensive weapons today so Randle can handle some minutes there. Most Centers won't be able to handle Randle and Obi. Centers will have to move out of the paint. It creates mismatches. It is like football. You have to pick and choose your battles. If it comes down to Obi losing minutes or Mitch/Hartenstein then I am trying to sacrifice our centers' min where possible.
RE: RE: @robbie  
Giantfan21 : 6/30/2022 8:36 pm : link
In comment 15745283 robbieballs2003 said:
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The issue is with signing Hartenstein and possibly Mitch , Randle will not be able to play with Obi because there will be no Center minutes available now.

That leaves at best even if Randle gets a reduced role , 16 minutes for Obi which is just not good enough for the way he played at the end of last season .

Obi starts and Reddish can play some 4 and/or frankly im not too worried about them finding a backup 4 between now and the start of the season either in FA or in a trade



This is probably how it will play out but we don't need to play our centers. Obi and Randle can play the 4/5. It is all dependent upon matchups. There are plenty of opportunities in today's NBA. Most bigs aren't offensive weapons today so Randle can handle some minutes there. Most Centers won't be able to handle Randle and Obi. Centers will have to move out of the paint. It creates mismatches. It is like football. You have to pick and choose your battles. If it comes down to Obi losing minutes or Mitch/Hartenstein then I am trying to sacrifice our centers' min where possible.


1st of all the problem is Thibs is still the coach and he wants a traditionital Center at all times.

Second, it just doesn't make sense to invest money into Mitch and Hartenstein only for them to be glued to the bench so Randle could play there to give Obi more minutes. It's a bad use of resources and clunky roster construction
RE: RE: RE: @robbie  
robbieballs2003 : 6/30/2022 8:40 pm : link
In comment 15745294 Giantfan21 said:
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The issue is with signing Hartenstein and possibly Mitch , Randle will not be able to play with Obi because there will be no Center minutes available now.

That leaves at best even if Randle gets a reduced role , 16 minutes for Obi which is just not good enough for the way he played at the end of last season .

Obi starts and Reddish can play some 4 and/or frankly im not too worried about them finding a backup 4 between now and the start of the season either in FA or in a trade



This is probably how it will play out but we don't need to play our centers. Obi and Randle can play the 4/5. It is all dependent upon matchups. There are plenty of opportunities in today's NBA. Most bigs aren't offensive weapons today so Randle can handle some minutes there. Most Centers won't be able to handle Randle and Obi. Centers will have to move out of the paint. It creates mismatches. It is like football. You have to pick and choose your battles. If it comes down to Obi losing minutes or Mitch/Hartenstein then I am trying to sacrifice our centers' min where possible.



1st of all the problem is Thibs is still the coach and he wants a traditionital Center at all times.

Second, it just doesn't make sense to invest money into Mitch and Hartenstein only for them to be glued to the bench so Randle could play there to give Obi more minutes. It's a bad use of resources and clunky roster construction


Again, matchups. This isn't an every game, consistent rotation. It is about having options and not being afraid to take that chance of going with a small lineup.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Still don't see official Brunson signing.  
Stu11 : 6/30/2022 8:41 pm : link
In comment 15745277 nygiants16 said:
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Where is it already???



Could be that the Knicks are engaged with the Mavericks regarding a S&T. That might be the hangup.



wont be official until the 6th



Yeah, but they could still agree to a trade in principle



I dont know the rules on that, i am sure it woukd leak if its being talked about
the best we're gonna get is the reporters like Woj and Shams saying it's done. Nothing official will be announced till next week. A lot of times the sign and trade with UFA's is minor and it's announced when deals can be official. The sign and trades that leak today are usually for Rfa's like Ball last year.
I’m a Knicks fan for life  
Svengali : 6/30/2022 8:42 pm : link
Correct me if I’m wrong. We came out of the draft without our pick but with Brunson and two future firsts (heavily protected) we still have major assets in picks going forward and didn’t have to give up anything for our new point guard.
As much hate as gets tossed around on twitter (which I had to stop looking at) you would think we lost our minds. I’d say we’re a better team today and have a decent outlook for the future. That’s a stark difference from the same old Knicks. Maybe I have Stockholm syndrome but I’m okay with slow and steady getting better for a change. Maybe not a championship team but a team that competes hard is great for this fan.
RE: I’m a Knicks fan for life  
robbieballs2003 : 6/30/2022 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15745299 Svengali said:
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Correct me if I’m wrong. We came out of the draft without our pick but with Brunson and two future firsts (heavily protected) we still have major assets in picks going forward and didn’t have to give up anything for our new point guard.
As much hate as gets tossed around on twitter (which I had to stop looking at) you would think we lost our minds. I’d say we’re a better team today and have a decent outlook for the future. That’s a stark difference from the same old Knicks. Maybe I have Stockholm syndrome but I’m okay with slow and steady getting better for a change. Maybe not a championship team but a team that competes hard is great for this fan.


3 firsts
A rumor started allegedly by Fat Joe who denies  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2022 9:04 pm : link
ever having told the rumor to that person in the first place. Gotta love the NBA offseason
Bridges with an interesting tweet  
robbieballs2003 : 6/30/2022 9:06 pm : link
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RE: Bridges with an interesting tweet  
The_Boss : 6/30/2022 9:09 pm : link
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How cold JB is?

Does that maybe mean he’s gonna screw the Knicks even knowing his dad will be disappointed in the process and either re up in Dallas or go somewhere else?
RE: Bridges with an interesting tweet  
Stu11 : 6/30/2022 9:09 pm : link
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They played together at Nova. I'm sure they're buddies.
Is this true?  
Ira : 6/30/2022 9:09 pm : link

Patrick Salazar
@cronotoriously

110 million dollars means he's the 15th highest paid PG in the NBA per year. It's not some crazy number. It's quite literally average.
RE: RE: Bridges with an interesting tweet  
adamg : 6/30/2022 9:12 pm : link
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How cold JB is?

Does that maybe mean he’s gonna screw the Knicks even knowing his dad will be disappointed in the process and either re up in Dallas or go somewhere else?


Sarcasm?
RE: RE: Bridges with an interesting tweet  
robbieballs2003 : 6/30/2022 9:12 pm : link
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They played together at Nova. I'm sure they're buddies.


Definitely.
On the Mitchell stuff this is the source of the “rumor” which  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2022 9:12 pm : link
Kristian Winfield posted to support his claim. Bold move considering it’s not at all what he said it was
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RE: Is this true?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/30/2022 9:13 pm : link
In comment 15745335 Ira said:
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Patrick Salazar
@cronotoriously

110 million dollars means he's the 15th highest paid PG in the NBA per year. It's not some crazy number. It's quite literally average.


The AAV would be between 12-15 depending on who you call a point guard.
RE: RE: RE: Bridges with an interesting tweet  
The_Boss : 6/30/2022 9:13 pm : link
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How cold JB is?

Does that maybe mean he’s gonna screw the Knicks even knowing his dad will be disappointed in the process and either re up in Dallas or go somewhere else?



Sarcasm?


Just speculating that maybe Brunson pulls the rug out from under the Knicks (and his dad)…that would be pretty cold, no?
Dallas beat tweet  
shyster : 6/30/2022 9:19 pm : link
Brad Townsend
@townbrad
Asked a Mavs source: "How is this not tampering?"

Response: "It is 100% a violation."
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Bridges with an interesting tweet  
The_Boss : 6/30/2022 9:20 pm : link
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How cold JB is?

Does that maybe mean he’s gonna screw the Knicks even knowing his dad will be disappointed in the process and either re up in Dallas or go somewhere else?



Sarcasm?



Just speculating that maybe Brunson pulls the rug out from under the Knicks (and his dad)…that would be pretty cold, no?


Disregard..according to the Post the deal is official..so, no he won’t be pulling the rug out..I was unaware everything was finalized until just now..
RE: Dallas beat tweet  
robbieballs2003 : 6/30/2022 9:21 pm : link
In comment 15745351 shyster said:
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Brad Townsend
@townbrad
Asked a Mavs source: "How is this not tampering?"

Response: "It is 100% a violation." link - ( New Window )


Take a 2nd.
When Bridges says he’s “cold”  
Strahan91 : 6/30/2022 9:24 pm : link
he means he’s really good at basketball as in people saying “he got that much?” don’t realize how good he is
RE: Dallas beat tweet  
The_Boss : 6/30/2022 9:25 pm : link
In comment 15745351 shyster said:
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Brad Townsend
@townbrad
Asked a Mavs source: "How is this not tampering?"

Response: "It is 100% a violation." link - ( New Window )


Send them a leftover John Starks “The Dunk” poster as compensation..
RE: Is this true?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/30/2022 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15745335 Ira said:
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Patrick Salazar
@cronotoriously

110 million dollars means he's the 15th highest paid PG in the NBA per year. It's not some crazy number. It's quite literally average.


Weird seeing someone post your tweets lol.

12-15 range depending on deal structure. If it's front loaded, closer to 12.
Done  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2022 9:34 pm : link
Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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Free agent guard Jalen Brunson has agreed to a four-year, $104 million deal with the New York Knicks, his agents Aaron Mintz and Sam Rose of
@CAA_Basketball
tell ESPN. The deal includes a player option on the final season.
Player option in year 4 huh, nice.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/30/2022 9:36 pm : link
Good money now and a free agent chance again at 29 years old.
No sign and trade then  
adamg : 6/30/2022 9:38 pm : link
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RE: Done  
TyreeHelmet : 6/30/2022 9:40 pm : link
In comment 15745367 nygiants16 said:
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Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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Free agent guard Jalen Brunson has agreed to a four-year, $104 million deal with the New York Knicks, his agents Aaron Mintz and Sam Rose of
@CAA_Basketball
tell ESPN. The deal includes a player option on the final season.


Great news and a great signing. He’s going to help the Knicks big time.
RE: No sign and trade then  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2022 9:41 pm : link
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Still could be, nothing is signed yet
So Jalen Brunson  
M.S. : 6/30/2022 9:41 pm : link

And WHO ELSE is gonna lead the Knicks into the playoffs?

Just an elapsed Knicks fan here asking the question.
RE: So Jalen Brunson  
adamg : 6/30/2022 9:41 pm : link
In comment 15745374 M.S. said:
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And WHO ELSE is gonna lead the Knicks into the playoffs?

Just an elapsed Knicks fan here asking the question.


RJ Barrett
Great news.  
bceagle05 : 6/30/2022 9:43 pm : link
Excellent value.
Both signings today made the team better  
Heisenberg : 6/30/2022 9:45 pm : link
And we have more assets moving forward than we did at the beginning of the off-season. The team is clearly better. What’s excruciating is waiting for a big deal to come along. Clearly Rose thinks it will eventually. He hasn’t spent assets on a player like Murray. He must be aiming higher. But it is legit crazy that he keeps kicking the can down the road. He must have some guys in mind that will be available. We just have to wait and see if he’s right.
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