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NFT: Mitch Robinson on the Center Pay Scale

AG5686 : 7/2/2022 11:17 am
To be honest,I was surprised that he falls right in the middle of the pay scale for NBA Centers......
Seems very fair to me

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/contracts/center/

Thoughts??
He's the 17th highest paid center  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 11:21 am : link
in terms of AAV, that's not terrible I guess. I think the moral of this story is that NBA contracts are out of control. I hope that bubble bursts.
How many Knicks threads are we going to get  
robbieballs2003 : 7/2/2022 11:29 am : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/2/2022 11:29 am : link
We live in a world where Bradley Fucking Beal makes $50 million a year. NBA contracts are drunker than a 25 year old dude at Bar A this weekend.
RE: How many Knicks threads are we going to get  
NYDCBlue : 7/2/2022 11:50 am : link
In comment 15746287 robbieballs2003 said:
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NFL off-season.

Besides, we are NY sports fans. We are all acculturated to punishing ourselves....
RE: How many Knicks threads are we going to get  
AG5686 : 7/2/2022 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15746287 robbieballs2003 said:
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Brah.. the threads tend to get verbose and off track
I am only trying to keep the discussion relevant to what I am interested in..
You can ignore..I promise not to be upset if you do...
Perhaps this was spoken to in a past thread...but I dont want to scroll thru all that to find it..OK?
We find ways to justify it  
larryflower37 : 7/2/2022 12:32 pm : link
In the game threads most were saying no way he gets 15 million, he is not worth that, etc. Etc.
But here we are.
Anyone feel the Knicks were bidding against themselves on Mitch?
Mitch  
31southst : 7/2/2022 12:45 pm : link
Has it been definitively reported whether it is all guaranteed? I will feel much better if the last year is a team option like most of last year FA deals ended up being.
RE: RE: How many Knicks threads are we going to get  
robbieballs2003 : 7/2/2022 12:56 pm : link
In comment 15746306 AG5686 said:
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Brah.. the threads tend to get verbose and off track
I am only trying to keep the discussion relevant to what I am interested in..
You can ignore..I promise not to be upset if you do...
Perhaps this was spoken to in a past thread...but I dont want to scroll thru all that to find it..OK?


The point is you started a thread about RJ being traded for Mitchell. That was discussed in the prior thread. This thread is about Robinson's salary, which was also discussed in the other thread. You aren't starting new threads about new topics or breaking news. You have a thought pop in your head and start a thread about things already discussed. Feel free to start more threads. That's your call. It just makes me laugh based on your reasoning for starting a new thread.
RE: How many Knicks threads are we going to get  
M.S. : 7/2/2022 1:22 pm : link
In comment 15746287 robbieballs2003 said:
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It’s a little surprising given how chronically bad the team has played… a condition that has motivated numerous star players to stay as far away as possible from this franchise, which is a pretty good trick considering how NYC/Manhattan/MSG we’re supposed to be a lure for players looking for the bright lights of a high profile basketball market.

Guess not.

But here’s to more Knicks threads in the future.
RE: He's the 17th highest paid center  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/2/2022 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15746285 Kmed6000 said:
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in terms of AAV, that's not terrible I guess. I think the moral of this story is that NBA contracts are out of control. I hope that bubble bursts.

Why should it burst?

There are only 15 guys on a team, smallest among major sports, yet are near the top in TV revenue, gate receipts, and merchandise sales. Are the players not entitled to an equitable share of league revenues? In a league that has a maximum salary for individual players, the remaining money has to go somewhere. The middle class of the NBA is overpaid because the top end of the league is comparatively underpaid.

The pay scale for NBA veteran players will always be out of whack because of the max salary. Want to fix it? Get rid of the max salary and let superstars command their open market value with only the team salary cap and luxury tax to restrict salaries.
I don't think it will,  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 1:29 pm : link
but I want it to. I hate these spoiled, entitled athletes. Just my personal opinion.
 
christian : 7/2/2022 2:15 pm : link
Where should the profits go?
Fans?  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 2:17 pm : link
Im waiting for any sport to not gouge the fans. Do players really need to make $50M a year playing freaking basketball while a family of 4 needs to spend 1k to go to a game? Really hoping this bubble burst, maybe when the recession hits.
Yeah, let's just give that money to the owners instead  
TheOtherManning : 7/2/2022 2:19 pm : link
They're not spoiled at all and are the real reason we tune in.

Good grief, is there any sports cliche that is more played out than "athletes make too much money"?

It's laughably out of touch at best and actively nasty at worst to characterize individuals trying to maximize their salaries within an agreed-upon framework as spoiled malcontents. How would you feel if someone said that about you at your next job interview or salary negotiation? Oh, do you really need that much money? Can't you live on less? Why are you so greedy? It's nonsense.
Actively nasty  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 2:20 pm : link
Ok princess. Bite me.
$50M per year!  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 2:21 pm : link
Per year for 5 years! Yeah lets compare it to what I make. You are out of touch if you think that's normal. I do NOT blame the players at all. They should get what they can get. I look forward to the professional sports bubble bursting.
Oh, I'm sorry  
TheOtherManning : 7/2/2022 2:24 pm : link
Were you trying to be complementary of NBA athletes and just missed the mark that badly?
usually only10 guys play regularly for each team  
Vanzetti : 7/2/2022 2:24 pm : link
In football, it's close to 50.

Basketball actually has a lower cap than either NFL or MLB. It's just that salary is being divided among fewer players,
Well,  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 2:25 pm : link
you certainly made up a few words so theres that.
My point  
TheOtherManning : 7/2/2022 2:27 pm : link
Was that if you were in a position to be paid millions of dollars for fair work, how would you react to people calling you greedy?

These aren't shithead CEOs who make their millions of the backs of underpaid laborers and through the manipulation of the system. Save your ire for people are make the world worse to earn their fortunes, not professional athletes.
I appreciate the advice.  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 2:32 pm : link
I will take that into consideration when forming my opinions. For now, I will stick with it, I think the majority of professional athletes ae spoiled and entitled and I don't think any sport cares about the fans and I hope the bubble burst and none of these guys(players and owners) are making silly money and i will be able to afford going to games. Thanks.
RE: $50M per year!  
christian : 7/2/2022 2:43 pm : link
In comment 15746353 Kmed6000 said:
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I do NOT blame the players at all. They should get what they can get. I look forward to the professional sports bubble bursting.


Hmmm.

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I hate these spoiled, entitled athletes. Just my personal opinion.


The consistency of opinion we’ve come to love and appreciate about you old buddy.
I appreciate that, christian.  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 2:48 pm : link
Do I know you? I don't remember your handle at all.

That being said, its really not contradicting. I don't blame them for getting what they can get. However, when they still cry and complain and force themselves out of situations, they are spoiled and entitled. Get it?
Oh okay, you don't blame them you just hate them.  
TheOtherManning : 7/2/2022 2:49 pm : link
Forget it, christian, it's Kmed town.
 
christian : 7/2/2022 2:50 pm : link
So you don’t blame, they should get what they can get, but when they do — they are spoiled and entitled?
Exactly,  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 2:50 pm : link
now you guys are getting it. Good job.
 
christian : 7/2/2022 2:54 pm : link
So then that doesn’t apply to Mitch Robinson, right? Since he just got what get could, didn’t cry and complain or force himself out of anything?
I'm not sure  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 2:57 pm : link
what youre trying to prove big guy, but yes, Mitchell is cool with me which is all that matters.
 
christian : 7/2/2022 2:59 pm : link
That you came on a thread and a made ridiculous comment that you actually don’t even believe?
Ok  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 2:59 pm : link
pal.
RE: Ok  
christian : 7/2/2022 3:00 pm : link
In comment 15746388 Kmed6000 said:
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Excellent. I love being right.
You win this one.  
Kmed6000 : 7/2/2022 3:01 pm : link
You are tough to beat.
RE: You win this one.  
christian : 7/2/2022 3:04 pm : link
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You are tough to beat.


I typically am.
RE: Fans?  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/2/2022 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15746350 Kmed6000 said:
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Im waiting for any sport to not gouge the fans. Do players really need to make $50M a year playing freaking basketball while a family of 4 needs to spend 1k to go to a game? Really hoping this bubble burst, maybe when the recession hits.

If teams charged less for tickets, they would just be scooped up in season ticket packages and sold on the secondary market for an arbitrage margin that brings them back to their proper market value (which is elevated because the arenas can only hold a limited amount of people, so the demand far outpaces supply).

The fact that there even is a secondary market for tickets indicates that not only are teams not gouging fans, but that in fact, they're actually leaving revenue opportunity on the table (which is where the resale profit margin comes from).

Should it be the TV deals that provide less revenue to the league? I'm not sure how that would save any money for fans, though, since it's far from a straight line between the broadcast rights contracts and anything that directly impacts consumer costs. Maybe the packaged goods manufacturers who advertise on NBA broadcasts might charge less for their items if they weren't carrying a large enough media budget to be able to afford live sports broadcast TV ad flights, but that feels like a reach.

So, given that the revenues that teams (and the league itself) are not even maximized within their current structure, where should the money go? And how do you propose this bubble should burst if it were not due to a natural shift in the demand side of the equation?

Would you prefer for there to be fewer sports fans? Because that's basically the only way the bubble bursts in this scenario.
RE: RE: RE: How many Knicks threads are we going to get  
AG5686 : 7/2/2022 5:02 pm : link
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Brah.. the threads tend to get verbose and off track
I am only trying to keep the discussion relevant to what I am interested in..
You can ignore..I promise not to be upset if you do...
Perhaps this was spoken to in a past thread...but I dont want to scroll thru all that to find it..OK?



The point is you started a thread about RJ being traded for Mitchell. That was discussed in the prior thread. This thread is about Robinson's salary, which was also discussed in the other thread. You aren't starting new threads about new topics or breaking news. You have a thought pop in your head and start a thread about things already discussed. Feel free to start more threads. That's your call. It just makes me laugh based on your reasoning for starting a new thread.

For the record I like your posts and as a new comer I listen to you.
But my last comment to you applies
I dont want to sift thru 10000 posts of people sidetracking shit and arguing over the dumbest stuff
If I look on the board and I dont see what I am interested in I will post it
If it is politely rejected I delete it
No worries
RE: RE: Fans?  
AG5686 : 7/2/2022 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15746426 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Im waiting for any sport to not gouge the fans. Do players really need to make $50M a year playing freaking basketball while a family of 4 needs to spend 1k to go to a game? Really hoping this bubble burst, maybe when the recession hits.


If teams charged less for tickets, they would just be scooped up in season ticket packages and sold on the secondary market for an arbitrage margin that brings them back to their proper market value (which is elevated because the arenas can only hold a limited amount of people, so the demand far outpaces supply).

The fact that there even is a secondary market for tickets indicates that not only are teams not gouging fans, but that in fact, they're actually leaving revenue opportunity on the table (which is where the resale profit margin comes from).

Should it be the TV deals that provide less revenue to the league? I'm not sure how that would save any money for fans, though, since it's far from a straight line between the broadcast rights contracts and anything that directly impacts consumer costs. Maybe the packaged goods manufacturers who advertise on NBA broadcasts might charge less for their items if they weren't carrying a large enough media budget to be able to afford live sports broadcast TV ad flights, but that feels like a reach.

So, given that the revenues that teams (and the league itself) are not even maximized within their current structure, where should the money go? And how do you propose this bubble should burst if it were not due to a natural shift in the demand side of the equation?

Would you prefer for there to be fewer sports fans? Because that's basically the only way the bubble bursts in this scenario.

+1
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