Why would anyone want this guy on the roster. He's an ok RF and can hit it far if he gets a hold of one, but his numbers are atrocious. It's not just this year either, he's a career .203 hitter in 700 games.
65 Games Played
221 Plate Appearances
Batting Average- .168
On Base %- .281
OPS: .610
Homeruns: 9
RBI: 18
Strikeouts: 87
His career numbers arent good either. Outside of an outlier shortened season for him when he hit .253/389, he's been a career .200/.300 guy. Why is he still in MLB? His potential because he hits it far?
I think he will be off the team by July 31st. He is just dead weight at the plate. You can tolerate it a bit with Higgy because catcher is so important.
Yeah, I saw that.
But you didn't actually read the articles.
No.
Too bad.
Why'd that?
Cause he's dead.
Yeah, I saw that.
But you didn't actually read the articles.
No.
Too bad.
Why'd that?
Cause he's dead.
haha - we're watching 'The Offer' and Joey Gallo is in the middle of things right now... as to baseball, this from the other thread:
RE: Does Gallo have any trade value?
Del Shofner : 7/2/2022 6:00 pm : link : reply
In comment 15746454 adamg said:
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What's the deal with not DFAing him? Do they think he's going to magically start hitting at some point and become a reliable piece?
Don't see how he could have much trade value. It looked good on paper at the time but the seller knew the player was cooked and the buyer didn't. DFA'ing him, which he deserves on the merits, is bad optics for management, so my guess is they are waiting as long as possible (the team is winning anyway) and hoping he turns it around at some point.
You are reaching. He covers a lot of ground, has a good arm. Yes he is better in RF. I guess you don't see the plays he makes at YS against the wall. Unlike Stanton and even Judge on occasion, Gallo gets to the wall as fast as possible and then has time to judge where the ball is coming down. He is a far better OF than Stanton and Andujar and right now, better than Hicks, too. That puts him behind only Judge and the Yankees outfield is pretty decent.
I have no problem excoriating his hitting. But he is a good OF and there is no need to conflate his hitting with his fielding to make a point.
Have no idea why Cashman traded for Gallo....
So is Carlos Beltran, but in a different way.
Brilliant!
Then I don’t think you have been paying enough attention to his fielding. Either that or you’ve let his offensive struggles cloud your judgment.
He’s played a very good above average outfield this year.
Ugh, the problem is none of our remaining prospects are having a good start to their seasons. Except for maybe 2 or 3, and those are the ones we want to hold onto. How are we going to get a Benintendi or Happ when we only have prospects hitting under .200 to trade?
Why trade Roansy Contreras instead of Gomez? Or Alcantera instead of Vargas? Or Duran instead of Cabrera? We don't know what the other teams were asking for of course, but we don't seem capable identifying prospects worth keeping. Just another reason why so many prospects come up and flounder I guess.
Gallo and Hicks cannot be in the lineup come playoffs, unless we can magically petition the league to have Judge, Stanton or Rizzo come up on every important juncture.
Joey Gallo is dead!
And anyway, if you're arguing about Gallo's defensive contributions, I think you've already given up the ghost.
And anyway, if you're arguing about Gallo's defensive contributions, I think you've already given up the ghost.
Not the point. There is nothing really wrong with Gallo's outfield play. Kmed sort of exaggerating him as a defensive liability which he is most definitely not. He is not Dwight Evans out there, but he didn't earned two Gold Gloves by butchering the position. He may not be overall as good as Judge, as he has had a couple bungled plays, but he has a better feel for the walls(IMHO) and has better range then people realize.
Everyone has acknowledged his ineptitude at the plate and most if not all would like to see him moved/replaced.
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His name was in the papers all last week.
Yeah, I saw that.
But you didn't actually read the articles.
No.
Too bad.
Why'd that?
Cause he's dead.
haha - we're watching 'The Offer' and Joey Gallo is in the middle of things right now... as to baseball, this from the other thread:
RE: Does Gallo have any trade value?
Del Shofner : 7/2/2022 6:00 pm : link : reply
In comment 15746454 adamg said:
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What's the deal with not DFAing him? Do they think he's going to magically start hitting at some point and become a reliable piece?
Don't see how he could have much trade value. It looked good on paper at the time but the seller knew the player was cooked and the buyer didn't. DFA'ing him, which he deserves on the merits, is bad optics for management, so my guess is they are waiting as long as possible (the team is winning anyway) and hoping he turns it around at some point.
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and unfortunately he's played more left than right. On balance, he hasn't been much of a defensive positive, though if he gets more time in right as the season goes no, that may flip.
And anyway, if you're arguing about Gallo's defensive contributions, I think you've already given up the ghost.
Not the point. There is nothing really wrong with Gallo's outfield play. Kmed sort of exaggerating him as a defensive liability which he is most definitely not. He is not Dwight Evans out there, but he didn't earned two Gold Gloves by butchering the position. He may not be overall as good as Judge, as he has had a couple bungled plays, but he has a better feel for the walls(IMHO) and has better range then people realize.
Everyone has acknowledged his ineptitude at the plate and most if not all would like to see him moved/replaced.
So is Carlos Beltran, but in a different way.
I would do a package deal. Gallo and Chapman . I would ask for 4 dozen baseballs. Settle on 2 dozen. Addition by subtraction.
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Chapman? Chapman is a bigger problem.
So is Carlos Beltran, but in a different way.
I would do a package deal. Gallo and Chapman . I would ask for 4 dozen baseballs. Settle on 2 dozen. Addition by subtraction.
His line drive percentage is up at the expense of fly balls, and he is pulling the ball far more than he ever has. Don't know why, but those seem to be the largest differences.
Home run hitters are streaky. He's tough to take at the moment, but you guys will all be cheering if he goes on one of his 10 homers in 12 games streaks. He's done it before.
His line drive percentage is up at the expense of fly balls, and he is pulling the ball far more than he ever has. Don't know why, but those seem to be the largest differences.
Home run hitters are streaky. He's tough to take at the moment, but you guys will all be cheering if he goes on one of his 10 homers in 12 games streaks. He's done it before.
Are you part of the Yankees analytic team.
His line drive percentage is up at the expense of fly balls, and he is pulling the ball far more than he ever has. Don't know why, but those seem to be the largest differences.
Home run hitters are streaky. He's tough to take at the moment, but you guys will all be cheering if he goes on one of his 10 homers in 12 games streaks. He's done it before.
At this point, I'd be happy if he went on a 1 homer streak.
When he was young, he got away with the heck-jerky now he can't. Now he's baseball old with all the twitches that can't react to the "97 mph heater".
When he was young, he got away with the heck-jerky now he can't. Now he's baseball old with all the twitches that can't react to the "97 mph heater".
If anyone is interested, there are many analytics stats available online.
There has to be something there that says “this guy will do this-but only this-and that ain’t good” other than the obvious eye test. He absolutely stinks. And IMO he stunk even when he was hitting 40 homers. It’s the Gary Sanchez debate… if he’s going to get out the entirety of the year other than his homer streaky times, is that more valuable than the 250-275 guy who doesn’t strike out but hits 20 homers instead of 40???? I guess so. That’s what everyone tells me.
While 10-D -- as Sox fans used to call him -- is not on pace to hit his usual 16 to 20 HRs for 2022, he is batting .308 this year. His 88 hits for the season are more hits than anyone on the Yankees has (Judge leader the team with 83). Plus he is a lefty, which would be another boost to the right-heavy NYY lineup.
Against tough pitchers in the playoffs, give me Benintendi in LF instead of the black hole/strikeout machine that is Joey Gallo.
Ugh, the problem is none of our remaining prospects are having a good start to their seasons. Except for maybe 2 or 3, and those are the ones we want to hold onto. How are we going to get a Benintendi or Happ when we only have prospects hitting under .200 to trade?
Why trade Roansy Contreras instead of Gomez? Or Alcantera instead of Vargas? Or Duran instead of Cabrera? We don't know what the other teams were asking for of course, but we don't seem capable identifying prospects worth keeping. Just another reason why so many prospects come up and flounder I guess.
Gallo and Hicks cannot be in the lineup come playoffs, unless we can magically petition the league to have Judge, Stanton or Rizzo come up on every important juncture.
Speaking of prospects, why not bring up Florial? He is leading Scranton is all offensive categories (he is one behind in HR). He can play CF and has power and is left handed. Play Andujar in left, Florial in center, Judge/Stanton in right, and hicks as 4th OF. Pretty good group and much better than current one.
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gave away all those prospects for nothing.
Ugh, the problem is none of our remaining prospects are having a good start to their seasons. Except for maybe 2 or 3, and those are the ones we want to hold onto. How are we going to get a Benintendi or Happ when we only have prospects hitting under .200 to trade?
Why trade Roansy Contreras instead of Gomez? Or Alcantera instead of Vargas? Or Duran instead of Cabrera? We don't know what the other teams were asking for of course, but we don't seem capable identifying prospects worth keeping. Just another reason why so many prospects come up and flounder I guess.
Gallo and Hicks cannot be in the lineup come playoffs, unless we can magically petition the league to have Judge, Stanton or Rizzo come up on every important juncture.
Speaking of prospects, why not bring up Florial? He is leading Scranton is all offensive categories (he is one behind in HR). He can play CF and has power and is left handed. Play Andujar in left, Florial in center, Judge/Stanton in right, and hicks as 4th OF. Pretty good group and much better than current one.
thank you! Florial has gotten over his disappointment an has been sizzling for over 40 games, plays excellent OF and can run.
I'll grant that he's a good outfielder, but Gallo CAN'T HIT. These fucking nerds that cream themselves over .150 hitters who strike out 40% of their ABs because they MIGHT go on the "10 homers in 12 games tear" are what's ruining baseball. Gallo is the poster child. .181, .160, .165 in his last 3 seasons. Only 1 yr in his life over .209. Relying on these types of players is why you fail in the post-season when the pitching is better. Sounds like alot of people here thought Dave Kingman was a great player, who by the way was a much better hitter than Gallo.
There has to be something there that says “this guy will do this-but only this-and that ain’t good” other than the obvious eye test. He absolutely stinks. And IMO he stunk even when he was hitting 40 homers. It’s the Gary Sanchez debate… if he’s going to get out the entirety of the year other than his homer streaky times, is that more valuable than the 250-275 guy who doesn’t strike out but hits 20 homers instead of 40???? I guess so. That’s what everyone tells me.
I just think this is one of those things where the Yankees need to turn the page and move on as soon as it's possible. It didn't work out. Not all trades will, and unfortunately this one went about as poorly as possible.
He has zero confidence and it's not going to come back here.
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I understand his value in total, according to those smarter than me, might be high for a whole season if he were to hit 35 homers and bat 200 (and walk a decent amount). But I don’t understand how the analytics (sorry for broad term usage) don’t account for striking out with runners on, going through months long periods of not hitting the ball, or simply NEVER hitting the ball other than his home runs.
There has to be something there that says “this guy will do this-but only this-and that ain’t good” other than the obvious eye test. He absolutely stinks. And IMO he stunk even when he was hitting 40 homers. It’s the Gary Sanchez debate… if he’s going to get out the entirety of the year other than his homer streaky times, is that more valuable than the 250-275 guy who doesn’t strike out but hits 20 homers instead of 40???? I guess so. That’s what everyone tells me.
Personally, I agree with you and wouldn't have traded for the guy. But among the analytics devotees, he's a good player to have around.
He's not. Not this version. There aren't analytics that say anything positive about the Yankees version of Gallo.
This argument worked in Texas. You could reasonably show how Gallo had value even as a ~.220 hitter. He doesn't need to hit for average to have value. The problem is that the things that he was doing in the past, he's not doing now.
His .160 ISO is a career-low (by a lot) - he's not walking as much as he did last year. He has a -0.2 fWAR.. he's literally below replacement level.
He's a career 111 wRC+ hitter. This year, he's @ 77. Meaning, he's 23% worse than the average offensive player.
He's not doing anything well this year. His confidence is shot.