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NFT: Mets at Reds Game 1. Walker

ZGiants98 : 7/4/2022 7:17 pm
Mets Lineup

Nimmo CF
Marte RF
Lindor SS
Alonso 1B
McNeil 2B
Escobar 3B
Canha LF
Smith DH
Nido C

Walker SP (6-2, 2.72 ERA)

Mets up 3-0 early. LFGM!
Nimmo with his 6th  
ZGiants98 : 7/4/2022 7:19 pm : link
HR. A 3 run shot in the top of the second.
Hunter Greene has no control  
Vanzetti : 7/4/2022 7:20 pm : link
.
Stings giving that HR up to Drury  
ZGiants98 : 7/4/2022 7:39 pm : link
Especially since Lindor's flub set it all up.
Lindor's been better this year  
ZGiants98 : 7/4/2022 7:40 pm : link
But he's still underperforming by his own standards. He's been a pretty big disappointment as a Met so far.
annnnd then he hits a HR  
ZGiants98 : 7/4/2022 8:10 pm : link
Maybe I reversed jinxed him. We sure could use him heating up.
Happy  
PakistanPete : 7/4/2022 8:38 pm : link
for Dom!
Dom's been hot since returning  
Snablats : 7/4/2022 8:58 pm : link
7-20 and a big 2 run double off a lefty tonight

Vientos 0-4 tonight with 2 more Ks
Holderman is going to be good  
Vanzetti : 7/4/2022 9:42 pm : link
Throws hard. Great sinker. And most importantly the right mental makeup

To me, he has a lot more upside than Smith.
RE: Holderman is going to be good  
Mike in NY : 7/4/2022 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15747284 Vanzetti said:
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Throws hard. Great sinker. And most importantly the right mental makeup

To me, he has a lot more upside than Smith.


Smith’s problem is the long ball. Smith tends to get more swing and miss.
Nice win  
ZGiants98 : 7/4/2022 10:10 pm : link
It's Scherzer time.
So just looking at how degrom starts will potentially fall  
bhill410 : 7/5/2022 9:36 am : link
I am guess he wants two more minor league starts which would have him fall right around the asb. So you then have the question do you hold him for Yankees or start him against the padres. There is the chance they do only one more and then have him start with a 60 pitch count before the asb or conversely you have him do 3 rehab starts which could in theory also land on second yankee game.

Thoughts?
RE: So just looking at how degrom starts will potentially fall  
Mike in NY : 7/5/2022 10:38 am : link
In comment 15747363 bhill410 said:
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I am guess he wants two more minor league starts which would have him fall right around the asb. So you then have the question do you hold him for Yankees or start him against the padres. There is the chance they do only one more and then have him start with a 60 pitch count before the asb or conversely you have him do 3 rehab starts which could in theory also land on second yankee game.

Thoughts?


Get him to where hs is not on a pitch count when he returns. The last thing we need is for him to come back on a pitch count and the day before there is a significant rain delay causing us to exhaust our bullpen.
Britton...  
Italianju : 7/5/2022 10:41 am : link
mentioned that if they want 4 rehab starts the 4th as of now would fall during the ASB. So either he would have to do a sim of some sort, or they move each rehab like a day back do he does his 4th right after the break which would put him back i guess for the yankee series. Guess it will depend on if they think he needs the 4th rehab and do they think he needs it in a game vs a sim.
RE: So just looking at how degrom starts will potentially fall  
Vanzetti : 7/5/2022 10:58 am : link
In comment 15747363 bhill410 said:
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I am guess he wants two more minor league starts which would have him fall right around the asb. So you then have the question do you hold him for Yankees or start him against the padres. There is the chance they do only one more and then have him start with a 60 pitch count before the asb or conversely you have him do 3 rehab starts which could in theory also land on second yankee game.

Thoughts?


Target date has been July 22, home opener against Padres after ASB.

Alvarez threw out the first guy who tried to run on him  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/5/2022 11:01 am : link
in his first start.
RE: So just looking at how degrom starts will potentially fall  
speedywheels : 7/5/2022 1:16 pm : link
In comment 15747363 bhill410 said:
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I am guess he wants two more minor league starts which would have him fall right around the asb. So you then have the question do you hold him for Yankees or start him against the padres. There is the chance they do only one more and then have him start with a 60 pitch count before the asb or conversely you have him do 3 rehab starts which could in theory also land on second yankee game.

Thoughts?


I think he should pitch when the timing is right for him, there is no value to "forcing" him to pitch to a certain opponent. In your example, the SD game would carry more weight than the NYY game, so I would prefer he pitch that one. But again - I'm for him pitching when the timing is best for him, not based on the opponent.
Of more immediate concern  
Snablats : 7/5/2022 1:29 pm : link
Max tonight, which sets him up for Sunday and missing the Braves series. Do you push him back a day to open in Atlanta? I do, especially since Walker will miss it as he pitches Saturday

And does Bassitt return for the Braves series, and will his arm be in shape for it after this covid absence?

Starting Peterson, Williams, and Cookie in Atlanta would not be good
Seems like a viable bath but who do you give the game too?  
bhill410 : 7/5/2022 1:37 pm : link
The Mets really don’t have a starter after the names you suggested.
The way to fend off the Braves  
Vanzetti : 7/5/2022 3:11 pm : link
is to beat them at their own game by sweeping terrible teams. Braves 14 game win streak came against Rockies, Pirates, Reds and Nats.

Marlins are not a terrible team but they can't hit. So I have no problem throwing Scherzer against Alcantara on Sunday.

Beat the Reds these next two games and win three of four in Miami. That's the best way to keep the Braves in second place

then get swept in Atlanta  
Snablats : 7/5/2022 3:30 pm : link
The best way to stop the Braves is to beat them
RE: then get swept in Atlanta  
Mike in NY : 7/5/2022 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15747551 Snablats said:
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The best way to stop the Braves is to beat them


If you scramble the rotation and lose to the Braves anyway and now lose against Florida you fall further behind.
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