NFT: 7/5 Yankees Thread - Florial/Krook, Peraza, Minors, etc.

I don't really understand why some of these moves have not been made. Hicks, Gallo and IKF are not giving much. IKF is a below average defender as well.

the Peraza story is the same with our big 3 prospects. Volpe, Jasson, and Peraza all came out of the gate slow, but I think with all of them if you look at their numbers after 6/1, they are showing a new found comfort to their game.

In comment 15747389 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:

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the Peraza story is the same with our big 3 prospects. Volpe, Jasson, and Peraza all came out of the gate slow, but I think with all of them if you look at their numbers after 6/1, they are showing a new found comfort to their game.

Yep, a few guys got off to sluggish starts on the farm, but most have picked up.

I just think the Yankees are at a crossroads with Florial where it's time to give him legitimate PT and see what we have.

In 2021, he was given 25 plate appearances at the MLB level. He hit .300 with a .990 OPS and 173 wRC+. The sample size is quite small, but those are outstanding results.

That's the most extensive PT he's seen @ this level. Besides that, he's just gotten 27th man cups of coffee during doubleheaders and has been sent back down afterward.

He can steal bases, he's a lefty bat, and he has legitimate upside. Maybe he's just a AAAA player, but maybe he's not. There's no way he'd be worse than Gallo and we're not losing much defensively either.

Don't see why we can't give him a chance. Worst that can happen is he bombs and gives us the same amount of offense IKF is giving us recently; little to none.

hit a triple in his first AB!

how in god's name can Andujar still have minor league options??? Didn't he debut as a rookie like 4 years ago? Something has to give here though. I know we're having a dream season, and I'm not gonna panic over 5 games in June but this team has to prepare for the Astros in an ALCS and our hitting performance vs. them was unimpressive to put it lightly. Hicks has shown signs of life and some pop in big spots, but we simply can't carry Gallo and IKF in a series vs them at this point. Plus Trvino has come back to earth and Higgy has barely hit a lick. At least Gallo runs into a meatball occasionally, IKF has been putrid though. 0 power whatsoever and his defense has been avg at best. I do have faith in Cash to make the moves to make this team better. You know Houston will. They are always aggressive at the deadline.

and you want to mess with it?

In comment 15747406 The Turk said:

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and you want to mess with it?

How is replacing Gallo "messing with it"?

In comment 15747406 The Turk said:

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and you want to mess with it?

Joey Gallo is below replacement-level this year. He's not a net positive and has nothing to do with the success of this team so far.

They need to replace him and we have the guy. We need to call Paraza up, but it won't happen anytime soon, IMO.

In comment 15747406 The Turk said:

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and you want to mess with it?

He's not wrong. Gallo's .165/.280 with a .650 OPS is helping us. Don't mess with that.

.602 OPS lol.

It's not like he's some stud fielder either. He's a bad LF and he's ok in RF. He will make a few nice catches, but he's in his own head completely.

Joey Gallo brings absolutely nothing to the table and Cashman needs to admit that he's wrong about the guy he's had a crush on for 3 years.

It's more of a fan media creation, but the narrative that the reason the Yanks are off to a historic start is addressing the D up the middle. D at catching, IKF (even though he's no Ozzie Smith) moving Glaber back to 2nd and Judge in center. Gallo is the omni present lefty that was added with Rizzo to balance out the line up and be an athletic defender.

The song goes why mess with this to perhaps increase some production on O but rock the boat on chemistry and wins. I don't know that I agree with that but that's what I'm see as to why no moves.

and they need to sure up the outfield but I'd much prefer a deal for Happ than relying on Florial moving forward. This has the potential to be a very special season culminating in a WS. They should be aggressive to ensure they're in as good a position to finish it off as possible and it shouldn't require emptying the farm either.

In comment 15747457 Tony in Tampa said:

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It's more of a fan media creation, but the narrative that the reason the Yanks are off to a historic start is addressing the D up the middle. D at catching, IKF (even though he's no Ozzie Smith) moving Glaber back to 2nd and Judge in center. Gallo is the omni present lefty that was added with Rizzo to balance out the line up and be an athletic defender. The song goes why mess with this to perhaps increase some production on O but rock the boat on chemistry and wins. I don't know that I agree with that but that's what I'm see as to why no moves.

So just the fact that Gallo is a lefty is helping the yankees win? He's hitting .165 with a .602 OPS, but because he's a lefty, he's helping the lineup? Is that what you're trying to sell us?

Of Florial and Miggy has to be better than Gallo. Even guys with 92 mph FB are striking him out up in the zone.

In comment 15747458 Strahan91 said:

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and they need to sure up the outfield but I'd much prefer a deal for Happ than relying on Florial moving forward. This has the potential to be a very special season culminating in a WS. They should be aggressive to ensure they're in as good a position to finish it off as possible and it shouldn't require emptying the farm either.

That's fine, but why not give Florial a shot now. Let's say something clicked, they can save their assets and trade for something else.

DFA Gallo.

Agree give Peraza a chance too

But somehow haven't held the Yankees back. Gotta get legit replacements for all three. If I were the Yanks, I'd let Andujar play right now to see if he settles in as a hitter. If he does, you really just need a CFer. Otherwise, you need 2 Ofers at the deadline. Hicks has been a bit better of late, but still pretty lousy.

In comment 15747465 Kmed6000 said:

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In comment 15747458 Strahan91 said: Quote: and they need to sure up the outfield but I'd much prefer a deal for Happ than relying on Florial moving forward. This has the potential to be a very special season culminating in a WS. They should be aggressive to ensure they're in as good a position to finish it off as possible and it shouldn't require emptying the farm either. That's fine, but why not give Florial a shot now. Let's say something clicked, they can save their assets and trade for something else.

I have no problem with that given their current options but I'm not relying on him moving forward. His recent hot streak might also have helped his trade value. So if you bring him up and he struggles as he has in the past, there goes that

Ian Happ is the guy I want via trade, I think he's the best fit - switch hitter, positional versatility, team controlled through '23.

But, the deadline is about a month away.

I think now is the time for the Yankees to actually see what Florial can or can't do @ the MLB level. If not now, when?

He has to be better than Gallo. Has to be.

I just don't know how anyone can be sure Florial isn't a major league caliber player when he's only been given < 40 PA's spanning 3 different seasons.

There's literally been zero consistency or opportunity for him to show that one way or another. I don't necessarily believe he's *the* answer - I just think he deserves playing time up here and with Gallo being as awful as he's been and the deadline still a few weeks out, now seems to be as good a time as ever.

Gallo is having the worst season that I've ever witnessed for a regular player. Florial cannot be worse.

In comment 15747463 Kmed6000 said:

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In comment 15747457 Tony in Tampa said: Quote: It's more of a fan media creation, but the narrative that the reason the Yanks are off to a historic start is addressing the D up the middle. D at catching, IKF (even though he's no Ozzie Smith) moving Glaber back to 2nd and Judge in center. Gallo is the omni present lefty that was added with Rizzo to balance out the line up and be an athletic defender. The song goes why mess with this to perhaps increase some production on O but rock the boat on chemistry and wins. I don't know that I agree with that but that's what I'm see as to why no moves. So just the fact that Gallo is a lefty is helping the yankees win? He's hitting .165 with a .602 OPS, but because he's a lefty, he's helping the lineup? Is that what you're trying to sell us?

I'm not selling you anything. That just seems to be the all is well, we got good D narrative. The other factor is what can you do with Gallo? As has been said by many, he's basically untradeable. He would stick out like a sore thumb if you just left him on the bench as a defensive replacement.

Personally I would be fine with cutting him since it's not my money. But after what the Yanks gave up for him they will want to get something for him.

In comment 15747514 Kmed6000 said:

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Gallo is having the worst season that I've ever witnessed for a regular player. Florial cannot be worse.

Gallo literally has the worst ave in yankees history - literally florial cannot be worse

over someone like Florial who you could also play in CF and let Judge play his much better position as well...

To me, the move with Florial/Gallo makes more sense. Gallo has been that abysmal and is really deserving of the DFA. They really can't lose anything with Florial, or Andujar, for that matter. But, I said the same thing last year re: Hicks and the same players.

This is by no means a ringing endorsement of either Florial or Andujar. Rather, it is a case of a player in Gallo who you know sucks and has mostly been a similar player his entire career vs. 2 young guys who are likely to be requested in potential trades. It makes more sense to find out what you have in them since they really can't do worse than Gallo.

I would throw Hicks in as well. IKF I am not thrilled with, but I think it may be a llllittle harder to defend. But, I was in favor of playing Peraza (or even Volpe) to start the year instead of trading for a mediocre player.

In comment 15747538 Justlurking said:

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In comment 15747514 Kmed6000 said: Quote: Gallo is having the worst season that I've ever witnessed for a regular player. Florial cannot be worse. Gallo literally has the worst ave in yankees history - literally florial cannot be worse

In Sherman's NY Post column today, he wrote that Gallo has the worst Yankes AB through 251 ABs since Jim Mason in 1975. Jim Fucking Mason!! that's pathetic

Gallo, Hicks and IFK stay in the lineup. Add Donaldson to that list and you have 47.5M in salary for this year. That's an awful baseball ROI.

In comment 15747594 arniefez said:

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Gallo, Hicks and IFK stay in the lineup. Add Donaldson to that list and you have 47.5M in salary for this year. That's an awful baseball ROI.

Donaldson is another frustrating one. The Yankees are fortunate to have been getting the pitching they are getting, plus Judge (and to a lesser degree Stanton and Rizzo. I include Rizzo because even thought his BA sucks, he continues to get timely hits and walks a decent amount. But, make no mistake, they are winning despite some very atrocious bats getting regular playing time. They are scoring runs, but their offense as a whole is not efficient or consistent. I am concerned they will have this outstanding record and then have a relatively meek exit from the playoffs.