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With only one pick in the first three rounds (a late second)

with Kakko.

Tampa looking into moving Killorn.

DeBrincat
Devs have been rumored for any top 6 fwd available. They probably have the best ammo in the NHL right now to make a big trade with #2 overall, Bratt/Holtz if they want to deal them and tons of cap space to absorb anything.

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DeBrincat Devs have been rumored for any top 6 fwd available. They probably have the best ammo in the NHL right now to make a big trade with #2 overall, Bratt/Holtz if they want to deal them and tons of cap space to absorb anything.

I've read that the Devils and Flyers are unwilling to part with their top-5 picks for DeBrincat.

I've also read Gaudreau's name tossed around for the Devils.

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In comment 15747432 Stu11 said: Quote: DeBrincat Devs have been rumored for any top 6 fwd available. They probably have the best ammo in the NHL right now to make a big trade with #2 overall, Bratt/Holtz if they want to deal them and tons of cap space to absorb anything. I've read that the Devils and Flyers are unwilling to part with their top-5 picks for DeBrincat. I've also read Gaudreau's name tossed around for the Devils.

Yeah if he makes it to UFA I think the Devils and Flyers will be hot and heavy for Johnny Hockey. Uncle Larry brought up the Isles for him Sunday, but I don't see Lou diving into those d$$p waters. Plus if you're Gaudreau do you really want to play in that system? I know the Devils have been bad forever, but with all the young talent they have at fwd it would have to appeal to him.

13th pick, next year's 1st, and a prospect.

would also guess they trade Varlamov to clear some room and add another pick (possibly to include in that trade)?

Nick Alberga
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Heading into the #NHLDraft, I’m hearing the #NHLBruins, who currently do not have a pick until late RD 2 (54), are looking to get into the first-round.

Something to keep an eye on.

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Nick Alberga @thegoldenmuzzy Heading into the #NHLDraft, I’m hearing the #NHLBruins, who currently do not have a pick until late RD 2 (54), are looking to get into the first-round. Something to keep an eye on.

Pasta on the move? Maybe one of their goalies? I did see where the Flyers won't part with #5 for the cat. Interesting because next year's draft is supposed to be loaded so teams are hesitant to trade 2023 1sts and that goes double for teams like the Devils and Flyers who could easily find themselves back in the lottery. Though a 2023 first and Holtz for DeBrincat is something the Devils would have to think about.

Keep Kappo? What about Chytil? Who should they target as UFAs or trades?

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In comment 15747456 gtt350 said:

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You have to to get what you need to win it all. There is no 2C on this roster and limited cap space to acquire one. You need to deal some youth to open cap room for an established 2C

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In comment 15747456 gtt350 said: Quote: . You have to to get what you need to win it all. There is no 2C on this roster and limited cap space to acquire one. You need to deal some youth to open cap room for an established 2C

I agree to an extent, snab. Who do you target and what do you think they can afford to part with? I'm so wary at how the tenor of the Yanks team changed following the trade for Stanton that I'm overly cautious. Analysis paralysis, if you will.

make sense. Larkin, too, but would DET trade him?

is an RFA, he will likely get $7M plus for 2022-2023 or more in a LT deal.

Scheifele ($6.125M for each of next two years) has a M-NTC (10 teams) but has two years remaining at a team friendly price

Larkin ($6.1M for 2022) has a NTC and is from DET and a UFA after the season, maybe he waives it, but if he does, it's probably only with an extension in the 8M+ per year/7 year range.

I think all three should be targets, but I don't see how they fit in the remaining cap space even subtracting Chytil and then having room to sign enough players to fill a roster.

NYR have $10.2M in space right now with 16 out of 23 NHL contracts filled
- Chytil = $12.5M in space (and just 15 NHL contracts)

Kakko is not in the $12.5M number because he's an RFA.

Trading for:
PLD leaves ~5.5M to sign 7 NHL contract players
Scheifele leaves $6.4M to sign 7 NHL contract players
Larkin leaves $6.4M to sign 7 NHL contract players

without subtracting more salary I don't see how it works for any of the three *and* makes the team better.

youngsters out in order to fill some key holes, eg 2C. Maybe they can attach a draft pick to move Nemeth, but they still might choose to flip Chytil, for example, to make cap space and a spot for a prospect like Cuylle (sp?). It's going to be interesting, Kakko plays a responsible game but has shown no signs of being an offensive force as we hoped.

in the postseason you have to move him if the financials enable adding a 2C. That’s the most glaring weakness on the team. This team is close, has an elite goaltender and needs to pounce if the opportunity is out there.

IMO the Rangers need to move to add a 2C it's a bigger contract. Chytil and Kakko combined clears just $2.3M.

I think the better options for the Rangers are to set their sights a little lower than the PLD, Scheifele, Larkin level.

Then I'd rather just give Chytil a legit shot at the position.

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13th pick, next year's 1st, and a prospect. would also guess they trade Varlamov to clear some room and add another pick (possibly to include in that trade)?

varly to edm for that fwd...i know who im talking about but im not gonna attempt to spell his name right now

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IMO the Rangers need to move to add a 2C it's a bigger contract. Chytil and Kakko combined clears just $2.3M. I think the better options for the Rangers are to set their sights a little lower than the PLD, Scheifele, Larkin level.

If they were going to set their sights lower they would just resign Copp or Strome. Clearly the Rangers know they need to be better at 2C, and a few reporters have said Drury is trying to trade for a 2C, so he must think he can make the numbers work

Whether it happens or not, trying to trade for the 2C they need is the right play

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Then I'd rather just give Chytil a legit shot at the position.

I would but you still need a C. 2C/3C they need someone.

Whether they re-sign Copp, Strome, etc. Chytil at 2C means they need a 3C - easier to find in theory, but still need to fill the spot.

I believe the Rangers only even have 2 centers on the roster right now with Mika and Chytil.

and their two best prospects, Othmann and Cuylle, are LW's.

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In comment 15747440 Eric on Li said: Quote: 13th pick, next year's 1st, and a prospect. would also guess they trade Varlamov to clear some room and add another pick (possibly to include in that trade)? varly to edm for that fwd...i know who im talking about but im not gonna attempt to spell his name right now

Puljujärvi, I'd do that if I'm NYI, perfect change of scenery guy, and I think Sorokin proved he earned the bulk of the starts.

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He'll be in the mix in the bottom 6

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he can play C, but he's not a C. at least it's not his best position.

the opinions were still shifting.

what a terrible year for a top pick.

I have read almost all of the top 10 picks are being some level of shopped and the most common ask I am seeing is a 1st round pick for next year - especially since next year is supposed to be a loaded draft.

The primary duty that distinguishes a 2C from his wings is defensive: he has to be able to play the opponent behind the net. Chytil has really improved in that area.


So I think you really have to think about lines rather than individuals at certain positions. If Chytil plays with KK and Laf, he is fine. He could also play with Panarin since Artemi generally controls the puck in the offensive zone anyway

The kid line was a killer in the playoffs. Don't fix what isn't broken

that 'clearing' youth is not going to make a difference whereby the returns strengthen the roster to the point of taking the next step. Cap barely moves the needle.

It's certainly true Kappo has disappointed in projected offensive production and he's missed a ton of games, not a good combo, but it also means Drury would be selling at the bottom; the return, absent other elements in the mix, would be underwhelming. The other side of that is that his best work this season came as RW on Kids' Line, prior to Gallant's mystifying and indefensible decision to sit him. (So, agree w/Vanz, had to peek back to check something)

As far as Staples' ahem <League> sources, I cannot rationalize or accept going back to Strome, even if Staple is saying that's the way the tea leaves are reading because he would accept the discount. His play left too much to be desired across all facets. Copp is far preferable to me as 3C if Filip can step up.

Seeing Strome on this roster next year would represent to me a big step backwards.

Moving Nemeth is key, and Drury may have to part with prospects of value.

They lost because TB took away center ice after the first two games and Gallant had no answer for that strategy.

So Rangers had to bring the puck up along the boards and then when they attempted top pass into the middle of the ice, TB picked off their passes, leading to rushes the other way.

is looking outside org for a center. Time for Strome to move on and can’t compound the problem by signing Copp (regardless of price they paid). Curious what cost would be on both Miller and Schiefele…

That is why some big name reporters said last week that Drury is trying to trade for one instead of immediately resigning Strome/Copp or anointing Chytil, who had a good 2 week stretch in the playoffs but has done nothing else in his 4 years

If the Rangers top 3 forwards were younger, then you could wait on Chytil and hope. But they arent, and Drury apparently realizes this. Thus the push to trade for a 2C

opinion of a 2C, but I think the Rangers are better off keeping Kakko and Chytil and trading someone like Cuylle for Christian Dvorak.

The Av's just steamrolled the playoffs with Nazem Kadri as their 2C and then when Kadri was injured they had JT Compher.

People have unrealistic expectations on what a 2C is if they're expecting Malkin, Draisaitl or Tavares. Points is not the only or best indicator of what a 2C is. Phillip Danault was 1C for the Habs (in a year they went to the SCF) never scored more than 13 goals in a season, goes to LAK as the 2C and puts up 27 goals - more than double his career best. Around the same point total, but at 28 years old did something change that doubled his goal production? Yeah, his line mates, system, role, defensive responsibility, etc.

I think the cap will eventually right size after the flat year, so I think short sighted moves would be foolish. With the Rangers mix of veterans, stars, and youth plus an elite goalie they should contend for a long time if they don't overthink it.

back to the Avs - 1 year $1.25M

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Source tells me Penguins and Kris Letang are close to a contract. I've got absolutely no detail beyond that, so don't ask. But source sure made it sound like it'll get done. And that it'll most likely be for three years. ... Again, it's all I've got.

to keep Letang and Malkin, but I don't think I would if I were them. I would tear it down. All of it.

but then again, I underestimate Mike Sullivan's coaching ability every single year to make the playoffs with basically 2 NHL lines since that's all they can afford with Crosby, Malkin and Letang.

I know most people will laugh at me for suggesting it or be outraged or both. But I have zero emotional attachment to any players at this point of my life. I just want to see the Rangers win another Stanley Cup.

Because of their cap situation and no move contracts, if I was the GM of the Rangers I'd try to trade Adam Fox in a package for an elite center - Barkov or Matthews. The Leafs especially are in a similar situation as the Rangers. Up against the cap, unbalance roster. I think the Rangers have at least two players who could replace Fox in Jones and Lundkvist at 1/10 of the cost and I would guess they could provide about 80% of Fox's production.

If anyone has a better idea of how the Rangers can improve their top 6 and win a Stanley Cup I would like to hear it. I don't see how next year's team will be better than last year's team with all the FA's that are going to leave and little money to replace them.

He is a rising star in the making.

they just rolled four, productive lines at you, game after game, 3rd and 4th line forwards played key roles but far from all stars. Guys on those lines (e.g., Goodrow and others who left as FAs last season) don't seem quite as productive...as they transition. We'll see if the GM can produce to re-create some new, cohesive lines.

On the wings as well as a second line center. (Stronger as in get your ass in front of the net stronger).

For Fox? I love him but I’ll pick up Fox and drive him to either city.

Carl, hope you are well and coping ok.

I've been one of Fox's sternest critics, on NYR threads all season, and I won't necessarily disagree with approval of that swap for a top C, but addressing the other end of the premise is:

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I think the Rangers have at least two players who could replace Fox in Jones and Lundkvist at 1/10 of the cost and I would guess they could provide about 80% of Fox's production.

Cost, maybe, but what happens to D pair 1 when you take Fox off and leave Lindgren. Do you elevate JT and Schneider to D pair 1? Maybe. But the notion that either, or both, Jones/Lundkvist 'could' provide ~ 80% of Fox's production (read: offensive) I think is ludicrous. Jones is a nice, smooth puck mover but didn't show elite scoring potential; Lundkvist in the SHL was great on the PP from the left point, but there is no way I see either coming anywhere close to an 80% closure on Fox's playmaking totals for the next two years, at least.

Besides, Drury doesn't have the balls.

Been tough great guy. I appreciate.

In comment 15747611 ColHowPepper said:

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Carl, hope you are well and coping ok. I've been one of Fox's sternest critics, on NYR threads all season, and I won't necessarily disagree with approval of that swap for a top C, but addressing the other end of the premise is: Quote: I think the Rangers have at least two players who could replace Fox in Jones and Lundkvist at 1/10 of the cost and I would guess they could provide about 80% of Fox's production. Cost, maybe, but what happens to D pair 1 when you take Fox off and leave Lindgren. Do you elevate JT and Schneider to D pair 1? Maybe. But the notion that either, or both, Jones/Lundkvist 'could' provide ~ 80% of Fox's production (read: offensive) I think is ludicrous. Jones is a nice, smooth puck mover but didn't show elite scoring potential; Lundkvist in the SHL was great on the PP from the left point, but there is no way I see either coming anywhere close to an 80% closure on Fox's playmaking totals for the next two years, at least. Besides, Drury doesn't have the balls.

Not to mention why would a competitor bail the Rangers out just for Fox rather than 80% at 10% of the price?

:>)

Time for Drury to earn respect and his title.

that both teams will most likely move. Where do both goalies go? Who gets the better return?

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that both teams will most likely move. Where do both goalies go? Who gets the better return?

Georgiev is an RFA, so it's likely his rights get traded, right?

I doubt they get much back for that.

Varlamov is signed next year for $5M. I think he's a better goalie, but $5M for a backup might be kind of steep. And if you think he's a starter, he's 34, so not sure how much you want to trade to acquire him.

Not sure who gets more, trade value is not something I'm good at, but I just don't think I'd give up much for the rights to Georgiev.

Trade Fox? Would you have traded Brian Leetch in his prime? I don't care how good Lundqvist was in Sweden or Jones in Hartford, neither one has the ability that Fox does.

Chytl a rising star? Because he had a little hot streak in the playoffs? He has those hot streaks of 3 or 4 games in the regular season too then does nothing for 25 games. Plus, he's terrible on face offs.

If they can't afford a DuBois or Larkin, they should try to make it work with Copp. He's defensively responsible, good on face offs and can provide some offense. He's not usually as good a point producer as he was after the trade so I wouldn't get sucked in thinking he's going to put up a bunch of numbers, but I do think he's better than Strome.

Mario Lemieux you wouldn’t have done it.

As usual Edmonton is looking for goaltending. If Fleury hits the open market I wonder if there's interest to bring him there.

has to address goalie.

Not pinning their loss to the Avs squarely on the goalie, but I forget the exact reference but I think they set a record for the first team in NHL history to score 6 goals or more three times in the playoffs and lose all 3 games.

is not the answer for EDM. Solid back up option but certainly not a starter on a Stanley Cup contender

had some darn good runs last year's SCP, was impressive, and he would be expensive for the role of backup, agree. Two other things about Georgiev: seems he can be a bit of a head case when he doesn't get 'his way', buyer beware; never really seen him in extended duty, played 4 consecutive games once, never more, and 6 of 8 were his longest stretches. As a backup, maybe that's as good as it gets?
Ah, I see five5 is there as I've been puttering on the keyboard.

The name I keep hearing pop up is Ville Husso. Pairing him with Blackwood could be interesting. Husso was real good last year, but man they're talking about him getting around 5 mill/per and thats a lot of money for a guy who has played all of 57 games in the NHL. The goaltending made the Devils look a hell of a lot worse than they probably were last year. While the record looks awful, if they got league avg goaltending they would probably have had 20 more points.

lost his job in the playoffs to Binnington, sort of a reversal of the regular season where Husso replaced Binnington.

not sure I'm throwing a lot of money at him, but someone will.

Campbell probably gets a lot of interest too.

John Gibson's name being mentioned as a trade target.

I'd be very interested if I were EDM. He's come off his peak a little, but I like him more than the guys EDM has been rolling out there.

pretty off the mark with his rumors, but....

Petry? Klingberg? Fox? (lol, I doubt it, but maybe Trouba if the fans on here get their way)

yves fredette 🏒
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#NHLDraft #NHL Trade Rumor

A major defenseman will be dealt today or tomorrow

In comment 15747845 pjcas18 said:

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pretty off the mark with his rumors, but.... Petry? Klingberg? Fox? (lol, I doubt it, but maybe Trouba if the fans on here get their way) yves fredette 🏒 @fredette · 51s #NHLDraft #NHL Trade Rumor A major defenseman will be dealt today or tomorrow

I think Klingberg is a UFA.

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has to address goalie. Not pinning their loss to the Avs squarely on the goalie, but I forget the exact reference but I think they set a record for the first team in NHL history to score 6 goals or more three times in the playoffs and lose all 3 games.

I could see the Oilers giving Jack Campbell $6 million a year on a long term deal. I would be happy with him on the Devils but I would want a 1-2 year deal. Georgiev is not a starting caliber goaltender in the NHL.

my baseless and useless guess is Chychrun.

(not sure he qualifies as major...but I'll go with it)

is a UFA. I read someone speculate Seth Jones, but I seriously doubt that, would be hilarious though.

and I doubt Brent Burns or Erik Karlsson are traded - too much money owed IMO for too little production.

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The name I keep hearing pop up is Ville Husso. Pairing him with Blackwood could be interesting. Husso was real good last year, but man they're talking about him getting around 5 mill/per and thats a lot of money for a guy who has played all of 57 games in the NHL. The goaltending made the Devils look a hell of a lot worse than they probably were last year. While the record looks awful, if they got league avg goaltending they would probably have had 20 more points.

Husso is solid at the right price but I agree that it would be a big mistake to commit a lot of money to a goalie with such a small track record. I wish that they could lure Fleury here but I seriously doubt that he would be willing to come to a team that struggled mightily last year. I wish that they would turn their attention to Lehner again. They tried to acquire him last offseason but Vegas was unwilling to move him.

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my baseless and useless guess is Chychrun. (not sure he qualifies as major...but I'll go with it)

even if he qualifies (I don't think he does, but I like him), I think ARI will struggle to get to the cap floor, trading their highest $$$ D won't help.

Also, he's 24 years old (through all of next year) and has 3 more team friendly years. I don't get the speculation or urgency to move him.

I just read that Edmonton and the Devils are the current favorites to land Jack Campbell.

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even if he qualifies (I don't think he does, but I like him), I think ARI will struggle to get to the cap floor, trading their highest $$$ D won't help. Also, he's 24 years old (through all of next year) and has 3 more team friendly years. I don't get the speculation or urgency to move him.

This is just my opinion but I could see Arizona trading for Bobrovsky to help get to the cap floor. They would then have a valuable trade piece at the deadline as they surely would be willing to absorb a big chunk of his cap hit.

In comment 15747845 pjcas18 said:

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pretty off the mark with his rumors, but.... Petry? Klingberg? Fox? (lol, I doubt it, but maybe Trouba if the fans on here get their way) yves fredette 🏒 @fredette · 51s #NHLDraft #NHL Trade Rumor A major defenseman will be dealt today or tomorrow

San Jose is looking to move Karrlsson

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In comment 15747865 pjcas18 said: Quote: even if he qualifies (I don't think he does, but I like him), I think ARI will struggle to get to the cap floor, trading their highest $$$ D won't help. Also, he's 24 years old (through all of next year) and has 3 more team friendly years. I don't get the speculation or urgency to move him. This is just my opinion but I could see Arizona trading for Bobrovsky to help get to the cap floor. They would then have a valuable trade piece at the deadline as they surely would be willing to absorb a big chunk of his cap hit.

I was thinking that but with Carey Price. Not sure FLA off a 122 point President cup season is ready to move on from Bob even though I like Knight and think he's a franchise goalie, hard to move off success (even with the playoff debacle)

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The name I keep hearing pop up is Ville Husso. Pairing him with Blackwood could be interesting. Husso was real good last year, but man they're talking about him getting around 5 mill/per and thats a lot of money for a guy who has played all of 57 games in the NHL. The goaltending made the Devils look a hell of a lot worse than they probably were last year. While the record looks awful, if they got league avg goaltending they would probably have had 20 more points.

This is what I would do to attempt to fix the Devils goaltending situation. First I would correct a mistake and attempt to acquire goalie prospect Dustin Wolf from the Flames. He's blocked there by Markstrom but he is ready for the NHL. I loved him when he was in the draft and I was extremely disappointed when they took Cole Brady over him in round 5. I would be willing to offer Akira Schmid, Kuokkanen, a 2nd round pick this year or next.

If that is not an option I would target the following in order of preference.
Jack Campbell
Fleury
Lehner
Husso

for Varlamov, especially if they retain some of that cap hit. There are a number of playoff teams with awful goaltending who a guy like him with playoff success would be a significant upgrade.

Evan Rodrigues could make sense for the Rangers.

I'm not sure he's a 2C, but he was an absolute pain in the nuts in round 1 of the playoffs and shouldn't be terribly expensive.

Not something I'll bang the table too hard in favor of, but I've heard worse ideas.

I think Campbell can work if they don't give him crazy $ and term which I don't think he'll get. Maybe something like 3 years 12 mill? He could fit well with Blackwood as a 1/1a type situation. Blackwood's deal runs out next year and if Campbell has a good year maybe they move on from Mac. Husso is interesting at the right price. The thing that worries me about Campbell, Lehner or Kuemper I'd that we keep getting burned going the 30 and older goalie route. I guess that's what's available. A trade for Gibson could be interesting, but that contract has a lot of term left on it.

Emily Kaplan
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Before this season, only one woman held title of assistant general manager in NHL history

Madigan has worked in NJ’s front office since 2017

has Slafkovsky #1.

I have read of 10 scouts polled, it was 6/4 Slafkovsky over Wright, but also in a 20 scout poll it was 13/7 Wright over Slafkovsky.

Seems like a Hischier/Patrick draft.

Word is habs still undecided - not sure if smoke or true.

I have read a bunch of Bergeron comps for Wright, I hate comps like this for an 18 year old to an all-time-great, but even if it's close I don't see how you pass that up.

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has Slafkovsky #1. I have read of 10 scouts polled, it was 6/4 Slafkovsky over Wright, but also in a 20 scout poll it was 13/7 Wright over Slafkovsky. Seems like a Hischier/Patrick draft. Word is habs still undecided - not sure if smoke or true. I have read a bunch of Bergeron comps for Wright, I hate comps like this for an 18 year old to an all-time-great, but even if it's close I don't see how you pass that up.

PJ listen orginizations don't usually operate like this, but I can't picture the Habs getting up in front of Bell Centre and passing on a Canadien player who's been the consensus #1 for over a year.

As Slaf ever. The advanced stat guys hate him. The NHL scouts love him. They are drooling over his measurables.

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I think Campbell can work if they don't give him crazy $ and term which I don't think he'll get. Maybe something like 3 years 12 mill? He could fit well with Blackwood as a 1/1a type situation. Blackwood's deal runs out next year and if Campbell has a good year maybe they move on from Mac. Husso is interesting at the right price. The thing that worries me about Campbell, Lehner or Kuemper I'd that we keep getting burned going the 30 and older goalie route. I guess that's what's available. A trade for Gibson could be interesting, but that contract has a lot of term left on it.

I wouldn't give Campbell more than $4 million over 2-3 years. I don't know if it's true but one rumors suggested that a team was willing to go $6 million over 5-6 years for Campbell which is insane. The team that immediately came to mind was Edmonton.

If they can't get Campbell at a good price then turn toward the other options. I would be happy with Kuemper also but not more than 1-2 years.

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As Slaf ever. The advanced stat guys hate him. The NHL scouts love him. They are drooling over his measurables.

I would be very surprised if the Devils pass on Slafkovsky but to be perfectly honest he scares the shit out of me. I would rather see the Devils select the safer choice in Cooley.

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In comment 15747890 pjcas18 said: Quote: has Slafkovsky #1. I have read of 10 scouts polled, it was 6/4 Slafkovsky over Wright, but also in a 20 scout poll it was 13/7 Wright over Slafkovsky. Seems like a Hischier/Patrick draft. Word is habs still undecided - not sure if smoke or true. I have read a bunch of Bergeron comps for Wright, I hate comps like this for an 18 year old to an all-time-great, but even if it's close I don't see how you pass that up. PJ listen orginizations don't usually operate like this, but I can't picture the Habs getting up in front of Bell Centre and passing on a Canadien player who's been the consensus #1 for over a year.

If he were a Quebecois you may be right (no pun intended), but *just* being a Canadian I don't think changes much.

And if they keep the pick I do think they take Wright, but I also think a 6'4" 220 pound 18 year old who dominated in men's competitions is the perfect "make you think twice" alternative.

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If he were a Quebecois you may be right (no pun intended), but *just* being a Canadian I don't think changes much. And if they keep the pick I do think they take Wright, but I also think a 6'4" 220 pound 18 year old who dominated in men's competitions is the perfect "make you think twice" alternative.

Man would I be happy if Montreal selected Slafkovsky. As you mentioned weeks ago Wright is more Nico Hischier type and not the high caliber #1 overall pick as guys like McDavid, Matthews, or Hughes but he will be a very solid NHL player. The comparison to Bergeron is exactly the type that the Devils need.

one of my under the radar goalie options is gone.

Casey DeSmith just re-signed for 2 years with Pittsburgh.

must be some weird times for Russian athletes.

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Upon hearing about the arrest of Ivan Fedotov, Kirill Kaprizov reportedly immediately returned to the United States. His name is linked to fraudulent military IDs being sold to players, including Fedotov, and Kaprizov is now wanted in Russia, per Sport-Express.

In comment 15747845 pjcas18 said:
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@fredette
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#NHLDraft #NHL Trade Rumor

A major defenseman will be dealt today or tomorrow [/quote


It's the same reason why I wouldn't be opposed to dealing Panarin. With Panarin, you deal him and you open a SHIT TON of cap space, while allowing Lafreniere to elevate into the 2LW role.

With Trouba, you also open a shit ton of cap space, while allowing a right side of Fox, Schneider and Lundkvist.


Of course the issue is that talent and compete levels would take major steps back and I'm not even certain that I would do it, but it at least has to be considered.

after the possible Miller trade would trade Josh Anderson to OTT for #7.

doesn't make any sense to me, but it's being discussed - OTT GM only would say if a trade makes sense for both teams he has a lot of respect for Gorton and Hughes and has no problem trading with MTL.

In comment 15747951 ColHowPepper said:

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Quote: Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 17m The JT Miller watch is full on in Montreal. Understandably, Vancouver’s ask remains high, but the interest in the talented forward is very strong. A developing story we’re watching closely.

I don't think he meant that Montreal is interested. It's because Miller may be dealt during the Draft and the Draft is in Montreal.

In comment 15747954 Anakim said:

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In comment 15747951 ColHowPepper said: Quote: Quote: Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 17m The JT Miller watch is full on in Montreal. Understandably, Vancouver’s ask remains high, but the interest in the talented forward is very strong. A developing story we’re watching closely. I don't think he meant that Montreal is interested. It's because Miller may be dealt during the Draft and the Draft is in Montreal.

this is how I read the tweet originally as well.

that makes more sense with the Anderson to OTT for #7.

Why add Miller (presumably for #1) and then trade one of your best forwards.

I suspect MTL is not interested in Miller - but is interested in #7 from OTT.

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In comment 15747845 pjcas18 said: [quote] (lol, I doubt it, but maybe Trouba if the fans on here get their way) yves fredette 🏒 @fredette · 51s #NHLDraft #NHL Trade Rumor A major defenseman will be dealt today or tomorrow [/quote It's the same reason why I wouldn't be opposed to dealing Panarin. With Panarin, you deal him and you open a SHIT TON of cap space, while allowing Lafreniere to elevate into the 2LW role. With Trouba, you also open a shit ton of cap space, while allowing a right side of Fox, Schneider and Lundkvist. Of course the issue is that talent and compete levels would take major steps back and I'm not even certain that I would do it, but it at least has to be considered.

Doesn't Trouba have a NMC

Is not being dealt

In comment 15747960 JayBinQueens said:

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In comment 15747950 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 15747845 pjcas18 said: [quote] (lol, I doubt it, but maybe Trouba if the fans on here get their way) yves fredette 🏒 @fredette · 51s #NHLDraft #NHL Trade Rumor A major defenseman will be dealt today or tomorrow [/quote It's the same reason why I wouldn't be opposed to dealing Panarin. With Panarin, you deal him and you open a SHIT TON of cap space, while allowing Lafreniere to elevate into the 2LW role. With Trouba, you also open a shit ton of cap space, while allowing a right side of Fox, Schneider and Lundkvist. Of course the issue is that talent and compete levels would take major steps back and I'm not even certain that I would do it, but it at least has to be considered. Doesn't Trouba have a NMC

Yep, as does Panarin. They would need to waive 'em. I forgot the structure, but Trouba either has a limited one that becomes a full one, or vice-versa.

has a NMC that becomes a M-NTC in 2024-2025

Panarin has a NMC for the duration.

Tony D
@tonylats1
@JeffMarek
said JT Miller is trending towards the NY Rangers this morning on NHL morning skate SiriusXM

Jack
@dogsnamewasjack
@JeffMarek
on
@SiriusXMNHL
just said he thinks JT Miller ends up with
@NYRangers
maybe with Kakko+ going the other way.

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Tony D @tonylats1 @JeffMarek said JT Miller is trending towards the NY Rangers this morning on NHL morning skate SiriusXM

who knows, better option as a 2C for NYR than Scheifele, Larkin or PLD IMO.

but he'd be a rental unless he's extended.

Scott Sikora
@SSikora_BarTalk
Trade names mentioned attached to #NYR so far Pierre-Luc Dubois, Mark Scheifele, Sean Monahan, JT Miller, Patrick Kane and Alex DeBrincat.

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Scott Sikora @SSikora_BarTalk Trade names mentioned attached to #NYR so far Pierre-Luc Dubois, Mark Scheifele, Sean Monahan, JT Miller, Patrick Kane and Alex DeBrincat.

lol, that's it?

final mock in the Athletic has Wright dropping to 4.

MON: Slafkovsky
NJD: Jiricek
ARI: Cooley
SEA: Wright

he also claims his "sources" confirm habs leaning Slafkovsky.

Why would the Rangers want him?

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final mock in the Athletic has Wright dropping to 4. MON: Slafkovsky NJD: Jiricek ARI: Cooley SEA: Wright he also claims his "sources" confirm habs leaning Slafkovsky.

Wow that is certainly out of left field. Jiricek is a very good prospect but I would be very annoyed if the Devils passed on Wright AND Cooley for him.

I kind of think the best spot to be in this draft is 3 or 4.

Wright is probably the best player, but will be under immense pressure, so even if his career starts out like Lafreniere's (or even Hischier's) the reaction would be more like him being a complete bust and in MTL everything is amplified - even more than NY.

I think Slafkovsky may have the highest ceiling, but his floor is way too low IMO for #1 or #2 - but I think those two go 1/2.

I just love Cooley, almost every aspect of his game and going #3 obviously has so much less pressure and Jiricek is being dinged by the injury but is a future top pair D.

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I kind of think the best spot to be in this draft is 3 or 4. Wright is probably the best player, but will be under immense pressure, so even if his career starts out like Lafreniere's (or even Hischier's) the reaction would be more like him being a complete bust and in MTL everything is amplified - even more than NY. I think Slafkovsky may have the highest ceiling, but his floor is way too low IMO for #1 or #2 - but I think those two go 1/2. I just love Cooley, almost every aspect of his game and going #3 obviously has so much less pressure and Jiricek is being dinged by the injury but is a future top pair D.

Same here, to be honest I wish that the Devils had the 3rd pick to land Cooley allowing Montreal or another team at 2 to roll the dice on Slafkovsky.

The Devils would be absolutely loaded at center moving forward with Hughes, Hischier, Cooley, Mercer, Boqvist.

And best all around skill set, with a a Trevor Zegras look to him. Honestly none of the top 5 are remote throwers to me. I'd be happy with Wright and eventhough I'm starting to lean away from him Slaf's size and skill definitely fits a need for the Devs. Many project the 2 Dmen as top pairing guys as well. Either would look real nice next to Luke Hughes in a few years.

1st round in a long time, but every draft gets remembered for the top of it. I like the mid-1st to mid-2nd.

Add to it players like Yurov who is probably a top 10 talent, but won't go until late 1st or later makes it more interesting.

I like the 2023 draft, but this is a great draft to have some mid-late 1st's to early to mid-2nd's

Some like Cutter Gauthier could wind up the best player or maybe it's Savoie or any one of a handful of others who get picked outside the top 5. It's not just a knock on the lack of an elite top n, it's a compliment on the quality of the players worthy of 1st round status. IMO.

Bryan's son Mason is on the Panthers. Bryan was tough as nails.

Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
· 5m
**Breaking News** 🚨 📰
Some sad news to report ; Unfortunately long time @NHL Defenseman , and current @SanJoseSharks Scout Bryan Marchment has passed away in Montreal.
Deepest condolences to the family, friends, and teammates. #HockeyTwitter
💐🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

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Why would the Rangers want him?

Because some wahoo twtr tweeted he should go to NYR?

Agree, Dreger tweet on JT Miller likely cuz draft in MTL, but I want him to go to MTL, anywhere, so Drury won't overpay

sounds like it likely happens, but doesn't sound done.

Boston Bruins
@NHLBruins
· 3h
#NHLBruins president Cam Neely on Patrice Bergeron: "He went through the elbow procedure for a reason, I think, not just to feel better in the offseason. I’m starting to feel a little more confident that he’s leaning in the direction we want him to lean in."

Dan Rosen
@drosennhl
·
27m
Ron Hextall said the Penguins are close to re-signing Kris Letang and he’s hopeful they can get it done before leaving Montreal. They aren’t as close with Evgeni Malkin but he said the intention remains to re-sign them both.

NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
·
5m
John Klingberg is going to free agency on July 13, per @frank_seravalli
. #GoStars

about Connor Hellebuyck being available? If he is available that is someone I would want the Devils to go all out for.

being released around the league

Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
·
46s
**Keep an eye 👁 on **
6X 30+ Goal Scorer Vladi Tarasenko and St.Louis have been a good match for each other, but I’m hearing his name drawing interest in the marketplace from other clubs. He’s fresh off an 82 Pt season. @NHL
#HockeyTwitter

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Kevin Weekes @KevinWeekes · 46s **Keep an eye 👁 on ** 6X 30+ Goal Scorer Vladi Tarasenko and St.Louis have been a good match for each other, but I’m hearing his name drawing interest in the marketplace from other clubs. He’s fresh off an 82 Pt season. @NHL #HockeyTwitter

He was all but traded last offseason. Maybe it'll finally come to fruition.

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being released around the league

Greg Wyshynski
@wyshynski

NHL opens season with Lighting-Rangers rematch at MSG

In comment 15748179 Anakim said:

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In comment 15748178 pjcas18 said: Quote: Kevin Weekes @KevinWeekes · 46s **Keep an eye 👁 on ** 6X 30+ Goal Scorer Vladi Tarasenko and St.Louis have been a good match for each other, but I’m hearing his name drawing interest in the marketplace from other clubs. He’s fresh off an 82 Pt season. @NHL #HockeyTwitter He was all but traded last offseason. Maybe it'll finally come to fruition.

yeah, and he was coming off the shoulder injury, should be little doubt this year he seems healthy.

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about Connor Hellebuyck being available? If he is available that is someone I would want the Devils to go all out for.

I see a lot of teams beat writers suggesting their team should trade for him, but no one saying the Jets will trade him. two years off a Vezina - (3 top 5 finishes in 5 years), still under 30 and has two years left at $6.1M - he will be expensive if WIN tears it down.

Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
·
31s
**Keep an eye 👁 on**
The @NJDevils
; 25M+ Cap Sace, available, leading Pts scorer Bratt is in line for a new deal between 6.75M- 7+ AAV. Also they have #2 Overall pick tomorrow, they could be very active.
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter

In comment 15748184 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 15748168 Jay on the Island said: Quote: about Connor Hellebuyck being available? If he is available that is someone I would want the Devils to go all out for. I see a lot of teams beat writers suggesting their team should trade for him, but no one saying the Jets will trade him. two years off a Vezina - (3 top 5 finishes in 5 years), still under 30 and has two years left at $6.1M - he will be expensive if WIN tears it down.

Yes he would be expensive but worth it IMO. I would be willing to part with Blackwood or Daws plus Shakir Mukhamadullin, Janne Kuokkanen, and a 2023 1st round pick.

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Kevin Weekes @KevinWeekes · 31s **Keep an eye 👁 on** The @NJDevils ; 25M+ Cap Sace, available, leading Pts scorer Bratt is in line for a new deal between 6.75M- 7+ AAV. Also they have #2 Overall pick tomorrow, they could be very active. @NHL #HockeyTwitter

Wow he is really going out on a limb there. Of course they will be active they have a lot of cap space and a huge hole in net plus they could use another forward and defenseman.

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must be some weird times for Russian athletes. Andrew Zadarnowski @AZadarski · 32m Upon hearing about the arrest of Ivan Fedotov, Kirill Kaprizov reportedly immediately returned to the United States. His name is linked to fraudulent military IDs being sold to players, including Fedotov, and Kaprizov is now wanted in Russia, per Sport-Express.

According to Wild GM Bill Guerin, the report that Kaprizov has returned from Russia is inaccurate, and he's still there. Guerin says they're not too worried, but they're also a bit in the dark.
Athletic article - ( New Window )

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In comment 15747935 pjcas18 said: Quote: must be some weird times for Russian athletes. Andrew Zadarnowski @AZadarski · 32m Upon hearing about the arrest of Ivan Fedotov, Kirill Kaprizov reportedly immediately returned to the United States. His name is linked to fraudulent military IDs being sold to players, including Fedotov, and Kaprizov is now wanted in Russia, per Sport-Express. According to Wild GM Bill Guerin, the report that Kaprizov has returned from Russia is inaccurate, and he's still there. Guerin says they're not too worried, but they're also a bit in the dark. Athletic article - ( New Window )

Word has it Panaran is still in Russia too.

(NJD, NYI, NYR) should be all over this.....if true.

Andy Strickland
@andystrickland
·
3m
Matthew Tkachuk trade rumors swirling…some talk of last offer from #Flames to Johnny Gaudreau was in the $9.5 range.

Mike Morreale
@mikemorrealeNHL
·
4m
Tom Fitzgerald: "Luke Hughes will return to the University of Michigan for 2022-23."

while I believe the Tkachuk rumors are true, and we had discussed it as a possibility in the prior thread, this time of year nothing is verified.

I am sharing unverified information and wanted to clarify that in advance....they're all rumors until they're not.

So take it with a grain of salt, but Devs GM Fitz is holding a presser, nothing too exciting interesting and here are the highlights...
- Have made a substantial offer to Bratt, he is in no way on the trading block
- Have not received any serious offers at all for #2, just kicking the tires kind of stuff, said few teams have the resources to entice us
- "Lindy Ruff is our coach" (ughhhh!)
- Luke Hughes is returning to U of M this season (no shocker) he's not going to Devil's rookie camp, instead will be going to the US camp for the Junior WC this summer
- Miles Wood still not skating Fitz says he's not concerned, but this is concerning to me hips are no joke for hockey players)

Unless he's in to giving them a serious hometown discount.

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
·
1m
Sources say Jacob Middleton has agreed to a 3 year extension with the Wild. Believed to be just over $2.4 million aav.

trades in franchise history. Just an absurdly horrendous trade by Gorton.

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Mike Morreale @mikemorrealeNHL · 4m Tom Fitzgerald: "Luke Hughes will return to the University of Michigan for 2022-23."

This was expected. I’m glad that he’s going back for another year as he needs to add muscle to his frame but he will sign as soon as Michigans season ends just as Owen Power did.

for a supposed to be active draft/trade market.

any guesses on over/under on 1st round picks traded today? I say if the O/U is 2, I'll take the over.

Julie Robenheimer is co-hosting and they had Elliot Friedman on first thing
-Julie seems pretty connected and she's more and more convinced the Habs are taking Slaf. Montreal management is having breakfast with him this morning
-The feeling is if Slaf goes #1 the Devs are NOT taking Wright. All of them felt the Devs take one of the right handed D probably Nemec. The feeling is Nemec might be able to play in the NHL this year he's that good. Friedman thinks the Devs shop the pick heavy if Slaf is gone
-Friedman says trade talk is heavy but that teams are desperately trying to clear cap space and that the key is just how much teams are going to have to pay assets wise to clear that space. He said Buffalo, Chicago and maybe Anaheim will be key teams willing to take on $$
-the goalie market is being stalled by everyone waiting to see if Fleury and Kuemper stay with their teams
-Friedman says Miller is the most likely to get dealt today but that Chicago really wants to get into the first round and DeBrincat is definitely being shopped for that. He also thinks St. Louis is up to something but they have to clear space
- Friedman said the McDonough waiver threat is absolutely legit, though Columbus denies agreeing to claim him but that they were in on trade talks for him and wanted him.
He also said the threat is being used on another player but he didn't have confirmation on the player and that the process wasn't as easy for that player

Should be a fun day! Interesting that it seems like it's Slaf then the D on the Devs' board. Not Wright or Cooley

Friedman says it's sort of quiet there because Calgary doesn't know what Gaudreau is going to do. Once they get more clarity then they can see if they are trading him. Pretty much what we expected.

Stu.

Thanks for sharing.

Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie
If Wright is available at No. 2, can the Rangers make a trade with the Devils for that pick? What is the price? Would Kakko and Nils come close?

Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch

The most active teams listening on their picks: No. 2 (New Jersey), No. 3 (Arizona Coyotes), No. 7 (Ottawa Senators) and No. 13 (New York Islanders). Lots of moving parts #Sens #nhldraft2022

on Red Wings and Sabres if Devils look to move pick, but they'd want a nice piece coming back. Both would love to get Wright.

My gut says they'd use some return to maybe look at Miller or Tkachuk.

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Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie If Wright is available at No. 2, can the Rangers make a trade with the Devils for that pick? What is the price? Would Kakko and Nils come close?

What is he drinking this morning? No, not come close.

Seeing crazy things on web:
Miller to NYR
Dermott to NYR
VAN eats half of salaries
Kappo to VAN
Vitaly to VAN
Schneider to VAN!!!!!
23 1st to VAN
I'd hire an assassin

that deal might make sense if Vancouver is signing both of those players to big extensions and then eating half of the salaries on the extended deals.

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
Lots of speculation linking Chychrun to the 2nd pick and maybe Ottawa’s 7th. Senators seem less likely because of their LD, but anything is possible. Devils could use Chychrun.

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Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Lots of speculation linking Chychrun to the 2nd pick and maybe Ottawa’s 7th. Senators seem less likely because of their LD, but anything is possible. Devils could use Chychrun.

No way. If Fitzgerald proposes that, owners should fire him on spot.

Chychrun is on an awful Arizona team, has had injury issues and is expecting a big contract.

they should be trading with MTL.

I doubt MTL values Slaf so much they can't pass on taking him.

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In comment 15748605 Anakim said: Quote: Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Lots of speculation linking Chychrun to the 2nd pick and maybe Ottawa’s 7th. Senators seem less likely because of their LD, but anything is possible. Devils could use Chychrun. No way. If Fitzgerald proposes that, owners should fire him on spot. Chychrun is on an awful Arizona team, has had injury issues and is expecting a big contract.

I agree. I want Wright or Cooley at 2 if Slaf goes 1 but I would much rather see the Devils take Nemec or Jiricek rather than trade the pick for chychrun.

1 year deal

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1 year deal

lying season?

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 2m
Fleury is not signing a 1 year deal with any team. No agreement with the Wild.

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In comment 15748636 Stu11 said: Quote: 1 year deal lying season? Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 2m Fleury is not signing a 1 year deal with any team. No agreement with the Wild.

Ha ha sorry guys Kevin Weeks usually has good info. I just saw Dreger and others refuting it. Was coming back here to post it.

Fleury doesn’t strike me as someone who wants a multi-year deal. He seems like he is very close to retiring. Still if 2 years gets him I hope he Devils give him what he wants. I know it’s meaningless because I doubt he wants to go to the Devils.

The Devils are considering signing Jake Oettinger to an offer sheet.

"One of the teams I expect to be active today is the New Jersey Devils. I’ve been told they have a lot of wheels in motion, including potentially acquiring a goalie.

I also believe there is a good chance the Chicago Blackhawks trade Alex DeBrincat today."

Maybe the Devil's have something working for a goalie today?

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"One of the teams I expect to be active today is the New Jersey Devils. I’ve been told they have a lot of wheels in motion, including potentially acquiring a goalie. I also believe there is a good chance the Chicago Blackhawks trade Alex DeBrincat today." Maybe the Devil's have something working for a goalie today?

I will be very surprised if they don’t acquire a goalie by the end of the draft. I have no idea which one as they have been tied to several of them

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In comment 15748644 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 15748636 Stu11 said: Quote: 1 year deal lying season? Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 2m Fleury is not signing a 1 year deal with any team. No agreement with the Wild. Ha ha sorry guys Kevin Weeks usually has good info. I just saw Dreger and others refuting it. Was coming back here to post it.

Weekes is awesome, I saw he deleted a tweet, was it that one? of course I have a shitload of work meetings today so can't stay on top of stuff.

In comment 15748696 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 15748650 Stu11 said: Quote: In comment 15748644 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 15748636 Stu11 said: Quote: 1 year deal lying season? Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 2m Fleury is not signing a 1 year deal with any team. No agreement with the Wild. Ha ha sorry guys Kevin Weeks usually has good info. I just saw Dreger and others refuting it. Was coming back here to post it. Weekes is awesome, I saw he deleted a tweet, was it that one? of course I have a shitload of work meetings today so can't stay on top of stuff.

Yeah he wrote another tweet apologizing for the mis-info

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The Devils are considering signing Jake Oettinger to an offer sheet.

Likely cost is a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick (based on all the offer sheet $$$ I've seen thrown around which are between $6.3 and 8.4M AAV) - which may be worth it.

he was unreal in the playoffs.

Taylor Haase
@TaylorHaasePGH
·
8m
Penguins sign Kris Letang to a six-year deal, $36.6 million contract extension.

That's a $6.1 million AAV. Definitely seems as if the Penguins offered more term in order to keep the cap hit low.

Taylor Haase
@TaylorHaasePGH
·
2m
Replying to
@TaylorHaasePGH
After the Letang contract the Penguins now have $15.3 million in projected cap space with 2 goalies, 7 defensemen, 9 forwards signed/expected to be on NHL roster.

Can definitely sign Malkin + 2 other forwards with 15 million. Letang taking term over $$ is great for the Penguins.

I know I say this every year, but BUF has some talent.


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
1h
Hearing OTT & BUF were deep into conversations about a Matt Murray trade. Sabres are on his No-trade list, and Murray — as his his contractual right — stuck to his list.

The Avalanche have acquired Alexandar Georgiev from the Rangers. New York gets Colorado's 2022 3rd and 5th round picks and their 2023 3rd round pick for the goalie.

Andy Strickland
@andystrickland
·
1h
Told the Calgary Flames have zero plans of trading Matthew Tkachuk at the draft or this summer. The #Flames remain completely focused on trying to get Tkachuk signed.

Rangers didn't have much leverage with the deadline for extending a qualifying offer to Georgiev upcoming. Thought they might have to lose him for nothing. Good job by Drury

have only a 6th and 7th round picks in this draft, lol.

but I guess you win a cup who cares about picks.

Good return for the Rangers. Georgiev is not a starting caliber goaltender.

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Good return for the Rangers. Georgiev is not a starting caliber goaltender.

Georgiev is an odd case. When he gets regular starts, he looks great. When he only plays sporadically as a backup, he stinks.

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Good return for the Rangers. Georgiev is not a starting caliber goaltender.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Darcy Kuemper expected to hit the market with Georgiev trade to COL
1:00 PM · Jul 7, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

Won the Cup w/Kuemper. They can certainly win one with Georgiev. Nice return for NYR.

sports is cold man. You win the cup one week, next week you're out

And he gets a clean slate with a fairly good team...(: If he can get his head straight--and he should, it's not as if he has an Igor above him on depth chart--better op to see what he's really got.

3rd or 5th round pick in 2023?

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3rd or 5th round pick in 2023?

3rd

Thank you. I was seeing both.

Well done by Drury

I thought Kuemper was the Achilles heel and ultimately would be why COL wouldn't win a cup.

but i needed to eat some crow on that, he looked pretty damned good in the finals. Maybe playing against McDavid/Draisaitl you're going to give up some goals.

He's maybe the top 1 or 2 free agent goalie now.

The kid has talent, but I don't think he has it between the ears. He's too shaky.

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The kid has talent, but I don't think he has it between the ears. He's too shaky.

Well, that answers the question that me and every other Avs fan has at the moment:). Not good. Seems like a lot for the Avs to give up, but really, who am I or any Avs fan to question Joe Sakic right now? Maybe they figure they can work with him. I am not a Kuemper hater like many. He had a rough playoffs (maybe "rough" is not the right word to use since he did win a Cup) but I think that eye injury he sustained in the Nashville series affected him more than he let on.

And on a positive note, I have no reason whatsover to watch this draft either today or tomorrow! I think we are about out of picks:).

Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
·
42m
The Blackhawks are still actively trying to trade Alex DeBrincat to get into the first round tonight. At this point, the sense I get is it'd be a bigger surprise if they *didn't* trade him than if they did.

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Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus · 42m The Blackhawks are still actively trying to trade Alex DeBrincat to get into the first round tonight. At this point, the sense I get is it'd be a bigger surprise if they *didn't* trade him than if they did.

Kirby Dach trade rumors also heating up and you have to think Kane is going to be traded soon too. Blackhawks are stripping it all down.

rumors.

He's a 21 year old RFA who has suffered some injuries.

what reason do you trade him? and what do they expect for him? He was brutal last year in almost every measurable way.

NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
·
10m
#Blackhawks are listening to offers on Kirby Dach, per @ByScottPowers
. The “sense” is it would require a Top-15 pick to make them really consider it.

Per @johndietzdh
- the Red Wings and Blue Jackets are in play here. #LGRW #CBJ

In comment 15748812 pjcas18 said:

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Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus · 42m The Blackhawks are still actively trying to trade Alex DeBrincat to get into the first round tonight. At this point, the sense I get is it'd be a bigger surprise if they *didn't* trade him than if they did.

but aren’t trading Toews or Kane???

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but aren’t trading Toews or Kane???

I think they're going to trade Kane this offseason. Toews has negative trade value at this point. Also, it sounds like they're not going to qualify Dylan Strome, so both Stromes will be UFAs.

and Kane both could be hard trades without CHI eating money.

they're both owed over $10M in the final year of their deals and both are mid-30's.

Kane turns 34 in November and Toews is 34.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli

Full trade:

To Chicago:
7th overall
39th overall
2024 3rd round pick

To Ottawa:
Alex DeBrincat

i think to beat that.

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i think to beat that.

Pageau was a great trade and exciting. Dobson was a great pick. outside that Lou is really underwhelming. would be nice to do something exciting

are a mess.

between the video guy assault fiasco, the awful trade for Seth Jones and now being "forced" to trade your best young asset for a pick that you hope to make on a player who can become close to as good as the player you traded away - plus your veteran "stars" are old, high paid, and close to free agency.

A good, young, sens roster just got better. I think they could make the playoffs next year with solid goal tending.

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Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli Full trade: To Chicago: 7th overall 39th overall 2024 3rd round pick To Ottawa: Alex DeBrincat

Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there.

In comment 15748909 Stu11 said:

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In comment 15748887 Anakim said: Quote: Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli Full trade: To Chicago: 7th overall 39th overall 2024 3rd round pick To Ottawa: Alex DeBrincat Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there.

Fitzgerald was very clear yesterday in his press conference yesterday that, as the #2 pick has several years of team control, he's only looking for trades for players with similar term. It just came out that Ottawa has not even discussed an extension with Debrincat, and he is eligible to be an unrestricted free agent in 2 years.

Without the framework of an extension, and given the Devils' timeline, it's very tough to make that trade.

In comment 15748928 carousel said:

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In comment 15748909 Stu11 said: Quote: In comment 15748887 Anakim said: Quote: Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli Full trade: To Chicago: 7th overall 39th overall 2024 3rd round pick To Ottawa: Alex DeBrincat Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there. Fitzgerald was very clear yesterday in his press conference yesterday that, as the #2 pick has several years of team control, he's only looking for trades for players with similar term. It just came out that Ottawa has not even discussed an extension with Debrincat, and he is eligible to be an unrestricted free agent in 2 years. Without the framework of an extension, and given the Devils' timeline, it's very tough to make that trade.

I heard what Fitz said, and the 2 year thing is a risk. However at some point after 10 years of sucking you have to take a step forward. Nothing they are getting at #2 is a sure thing by a long shot. If they get an Alex DeBrincat at #2 that would possibly be the best draft pick in Devil's history besides Marty. I'd have rolled the dice with 2 years control. The Devil's still are loaded with prospect. If they'd have added him plus a solid goalie they can make some noise.

In comment 15748940 Stu11 said:

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In comment 15748928 carousel said: Quote: In comment 15748909 Stu11 said: Quote: In comment 15748887 Anakim said: Quote: Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli Full trade: To Chicago: 7th overall 39th overall 2024 3rd round pick To Ottawa: Alex DeBrincat Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there. Fitzgerald was very clear yesterday in his press conference yesterday that, as the #2 pick has several years of team control, he's only looking for trades for players with similar term. It just came out that Ottawa has not even discussed an extension with Debrincat, and he is eligible to be an unrestricted free agent in 2 years. Without the framework of an extension, and given the Devils' timeline, it's very tough to make that trade. I heard what Fitz said, and the 2 year thing is a risk. However at some point after 10 years of sucking you have to take a step forward. Nothing they are getting at #2 is a sure thing by a long shot. If they get an Alex DeBrincat at #2 that would possibly be the best draft pick in Devil's history besides Marty. I'd have rolled the dice with 2 years control. The Devil's still are loaded with prospect. If they'd have added him plus a solid goalie they can make some noise.

Niedermeyer? Elias?

Looking for the Devils to contend for cups, not just making some noise.

In comment 15748944 carousel said:

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In comment 15748940 Stu11 said: Quote: In comment 15748928 carousel said: Quote: In comment 15748909 Stu11 said: Quote: In comment 15748887 Anakim said: Quote: Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli Full trade: To Chicago: 7th overall 39th overall 2024 3rd round pick To Ottawa: Alex DeBrincat Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there. Fitzgerald was very clear yesterday in his press conference yesterday that, as the #2 pick has several years of team control, he's only looking for trades for players with similar term. It just came out that Ottawa has not even discussed an extension with Debrincat, and he is eligible to be an unrestricted free agent in 2 years. Without the framework of an extension, and given the Devils' timeline, it's very tough to make that trade. I heard what Fitz said, and the 2 year thing is a risk. However at some point after 10 years of sucking you have to take a step forward. Nothing they are getting at #2 is a sure thing by a long shot. If they get an Alex DeBrincat at #2 that would possibly be the best draft pick in Devil's history besides Marty. I'd have rolled the dice with 2 years control. The Devil's still are loaded with prospect. If they'd have added him plus a solid goalie they can make some noise. Niedermeyer? Elias? Looking for the Devils to contend for cups, not just making some noise.

Listen I'm not fuming. Keeping #2 is fine. Don't act like getting a 24 year old who if not for a Covid shortened 56 game season would have easily scored 40+ goals 3 of the past 4 seasons is some sort of quick fix veteran. Part of contending for cups is scoring goals.

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In comment 15748944 carousel said: Listen I'm not fuming. Keeping #2 is fine. Don't act like getting a 24 year old who if not for a Covid shortened 56 game season would have easily scored 40+ goals 3 of the past 4 seasons is some sort of quick fix veteran. Part of contending for cups is scoring goals.

Agreed that Devils need more goal scorers. Thankfully, Slaf, Wright, and Jiricek are all excellent shooters.

Islanders don’t overdraft someone or take Brad Lambert because he is the coach’s son. If you are talking about drafting Lambert with the last pick in Round 2 that is one thing.

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I heard what Fitz said, and the 2 year thing is a risk. However at some point after 10 years of sucking you have to take a step forward. Nothing they are getting at #2 is a sure thing by a long shot. If they get an Alex DeBrincat at #2 that would possibly be the best draft pick in Devil's history besides Marty. I'd have rolled the dice with 2 years control. The Devil's still are loaded with prospect. If they'd have added him plus a solid goalie they can make some noise.

I can support passing on Debrincat if there is real concern about being able to re-sign him long term. I would rather wait and try for Tkachuk if he becomes available. The Devils offense is good enough at the moment but they won't go anywhere unless they address the goaltender position.

who do you think goes 1st, Wright or Slaf?

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who do you think goes 1st, Wright or Slaf?

I can’t believe how quiet it’s been. Slaf now has the Vegas odds.

I think Wright, but Molson met with Slaf and his family today so who knows.

Slaf is a smoke screen and they trade with NJD and get Wright at 2 and add a pick

back to MIN but a 2 year deal

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In comment 15748983 Jay on the Island said: Quote: who do you think goes 1st, Wright or Slaf? I can’t believe how quiet it’s been. Slaf now has the Vegas odds. I think Wright, but Molson met with Slaf and his family today so who knows.

I think it's Wright also. I read a rumor that Montreal thinks the Devils love Slaf, they probably do, and Montreal wanted to sell that they would take Slaf 1st hoping that the Devils would trade up one spot. That would be a huge win for Montreal as they would still get Wright at 2 plus more assets.

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back to MIN but a 2 year deal

Lol I can take half my apology back. It was a 2 year deal instead of one😂🤣

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In comment 15748985 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 15748983 Jay on the Island said: Quote: who do you think goes 1st, Wright or Slaf? I can’t believe how quiet it’s been. Slaf now has the Vegas odds. I think Wright, but Molson met with Slaf and his family today so who knows. I think it's Wright also. I read a rumor that Montreal thinks the Devils love Slaf, they probably do, and Montreal wanted to sell that they would take Slaf 1st hoping that the Devils would trade up one spot. That would be a huge win for Montreal as they would still get Wright at 2 plus more assets.

I could see that. Evidently from what I heard today on NHL Radio, the NHL GM's love screwing with the media more than any other sport

Continues to make the NHL draft as boring as humanly possible.

Says Slaf #1

I got him at +160 this morning

The Devils phone is probably blowing up right now

The Devs are not happy. Good chance if they keep it they draft Nemec.

They haven't shown one fucking highlight of the 1st overall pick. Great job!

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The Devils phone is probably blowing up right now

Yep if Chicago waited 3 hours they'd be on the clock right now

Slovak Slovak. #1and #2

Nemec is an absolute stud. Devs are loaded at C.

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Nemec is an absolute stud. Devs are loaded at C.

I'm ok with it but you should always take BPA in the NHL draft.

Ahead of Wright. Didn’t see that

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In comment 15749011 Stu11 said: Quote: Nemec is an absolute stud. Devs are loaded at C. I'm ok with it but you should always take BPA in the NHL draft.

That's the thing from what I've been reading I think they may have. Nemec is a stud. Right handed 1st pairing Dmen are like gold

he's been the projected top pick in this draft since he was 14, lol. This has been the Shane Wright draft for 4 years.

I do think COVID and all the stops and starts hurt him and much of this class, and I fear that passing on him will come back to haunt these teams.

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In comment 15749016 Jay on the Island said: Quote: In comment 15749011 Stu11 said: Quote: Nemec is an absolute stud. Devs are loaded at C. I'm ok with it but you should always take BPA in the NHL draft. That's the thing from what I've been reading I think they may have. Nemec is a stud. Right handed 1st pairing Dmen are like gold

I wanted Wright or Cooley but I have no problem with a RD with top pairing potential. If he's as good as they hope then the Devils future D pairing of Luke Hughes and Nemec can be very special. Nemec could make the Devils team this year.

Romanov to the NYI

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he's been the projected top pick in this draft since he was 14, lol. This has been the Shane Wright draft for 4 years. I do think COVID and all the stops and starts hurt him and much of this class, and I fear that passing on him will come back to haunt these teams.

Seattle lucked out. Now they land Wright to join Beniers.

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Romanov to the NYI

Frank Seravalli
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#Habs send Alexander Romanov and No. 98 overall to #isles for No. 13 overall.

is a disaster. lol.

I wanted Wright and I loved Romanov.

to MTL

Chris Johnston
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The #habs have made two trades:

** Alexander Romanov and pick 98 to N.Y. Islanders for pick 13

** Picks 13 and 66 to Chicago for Kirby Dach

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Chris Johnston @reporterchris · 14m The #habs have made two trades: ** Alexander Romanov and pick 98 to N.Y. Islanders for pick 13 ** Picks 13 and 66 to Chicago for Kirby Dach

Pj, what do you think of the trade for Isles

He has his model. He's been in love with Nemec
Link - ( New Window )

For Alex Romanov……

Dach was picked #3 in 2019 and is big at 6’4”…..and maybe is ready to bust out. Maybe Vincent Lecavalier loves him and highly recommended him too.

And Habs do have a ton of Dmen prospects who need a slot. Romanov was a good hitter but maybe Habs felt not much else I suppose.

Weren't Canadiens in Stanley Cup last year? How did they get first overall pick? Trade? Lottery?

For Alex Romanov……

Dach was picked #3 in 2019 and is big at 6’4”…..and maybe is ready to bust out. Maybe Vincent Lecavalier loves him and highly recommended him too.

And Habs do have a ton of Dmen prospects who need a slot. Romanov was a good hitter but maybe Habs felt not much else I suppose.

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Weren't Canadiens in Stanley Cup last year? How did they get first overall pick? Trade? Lottery?

They had a very rough year, including losing players in the offseason and their star goaltender missing most of the year under difficult circumstances. They ended up last in the league and therefore had the best odds in the draft lottery.

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In comment 15749048 pjcas18 said: Quote: Chris Johnston @reporterchris · 14m The #habs have made two trades: ** Alexander Romanov and pick 98 to N.Y. Islanders for pick 13 ** Picks 13 and 66 to Chicago for Kirby Dach Pj, what do you think of the trade for Isles

I love Romanov, he is one of those players who you can tell just loves hockey. This was his 2nd season in the NHL and he hits like a truck. He struggled at times, but he was also playing top minutes as a 2nd year player. More after the Chiarot trade.

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In comment 15749052 JayBinQueens said: Quote: In comment 15749048 pjcas18 said: Quote: Chris Johnston @reporterchris · 14m The #habs have made two trades: ** Alexander Romanov and pick 98 to N.Y. Islanders for pick 13 ** Picks 13 and 66 to Chicago for Kirby Dach Pj, what do you think of the trade for Isles I love Romanov, he is one of those players who you can tell just loves hockey. This was his 2nd season in the NHL and he hits like a truck. He struggled at times, but he was also playing top minutes as a 2nd year player. More after the Chiarot trade.

Now he pairs with Dobson on 2nd pair behind Pelech and Pulock

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Weren't Canadiens in Stanley Cup last year? How did they get first overall pick? Trade? Lottery?

2021 was an unusual year to get to the SCF. but they lost their captain (Shea Weber - for his career), goalie (Carey price) backup goalie (Jake Allen) for long stretches and in FA lost their 1C (Phillip Danault) and led the NHL in man games missed to injury, but also where I started 2021 was a strange year.

I think MTL set a record since this became a stat.

Servo & pjcas18...thanks for information.

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In comment 15749072 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 15749052 JayBinQueens said: Quote: In comment 15749048 pjcas18 said: Quote: Chris Johnston @reporterchris · 14m The #habs have made two trades: ** Alexander Romanov and pick 98 to N.Y. Islanders for pick 13 ** Picks 13 and 66 to Chicago for Kirby Dach Pj, what do you think of the trade for Isles I love Romanov, he is one of those players who you can tell just loves hockey. This was his 2nd season in the NHL and he hits like a truck. He struggled at times, but he was also playing top minutes as a 2nd year player. More after the Chiarot trade. Now he pairs with Dobson on 2nd pair behind Pelech and Pulock

I think NYI fans will love him. If you're patient.

I wonder if being from Russia had anything to do with the trade. Strange stuff going on there with hockey players.

first round pick :D

guessing left since he's a lefty and that's the islanders bigger need?

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guessing left since he's a lefty and that's the islanders bigger need?

Yeah, he played LD. I don't know if I ever saw him play RD.

Corey Masisak
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The Sharks have traded the No. 11 pick to Arizona for picks No. 27, 34 and 45.

I would imagine Lundkvist would be the bait.

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In comment 15749102 Eric on Li said: Quote: guessing left since he's a lefty and that's the islanders bigger need? Yeah, he played LD. I don't know if I ever saw him play RD.

thanks any comp to a more established player? he sounds a little mcDonagh-ish or is that off base?

also gut you think he ends up a legit top pair or more of a top 4?

Harris, Barron, Guhle, Mailloux

The named 4 defensemen are all highly regarded. Maybe Romanov was a surplus they could afford to acquire a player of a bigger need…..A BIGGER CENTER.

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In comment 15749127 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 15749102 Eric on Li said: Quote: guessing left since he's a lefty and that's the islanders bigger need? Yeah, he played LD. I don't know if I ever saw him play RD. thanks any comp to a more established player? he sounds a little mcDonagh-ish or is that off base? also gut you think he ends up a legit top pair or more of a top 4?

top pair player IMO (if he continues to develop). Not flashy offensively so you partner him with a puck mover but he's more than a stay-at-home guy. I do think his offense will grow, but his penchant for playing the body is what fans will love. He would hit anyone at any time and some old school hip checks too.

Early in the season he was making a lot of positional mistakes, but by the end of the season you could definitely see him start to get comfortable.

I think he would have been top pair on MTL. He should be 2nd pair with NYI for now, and I do think he can play the hard minutes, but he's not a finished product.

He played PK on MTL too and did well.

McDonagh'ish to me, takes, the body, roaming, RD; #27 very cerebral positionally, shot blocker. Romanov?

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McDonagh'ish to me, takes, the body, roaming, RD; #27 very cerebral positionally, shot blocker. Romanov?

he's a better skater than McDonagh IMO without quite the IQ McDonagh has, I can't think of a perfect comp, but he's a solid 2-way defenseman (or will be). I did not want to trade him.

at some point they have to be good again, right?

they're having a heck of a draft.

Savoie and Ostlund and one more 1st round pick.

I feel like there is a resurgence coming back to the Sega hockey days when BUF was stacked with players like Mogilny, Lafontaine, Hawerchuck, Hasek, etc.

he almost sounds travis hamonic-ish before he started going downhill.

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he almost sounds travis hamonic-ish before he started going downhill.

smaller and better skater, but production wise yeah - a lefty Hamonic I could see. I do think he can be a 40 point player on D if used the right way.

will get a steal with Yurov.

obviously a gamble though.

taken (playing in Russia).

Ivan Miroshnichenko - filthy mitts on that kid. He would have gone top 5 but he has non-hodkins lymphoma.

Caps roll the dice, could be a steal.

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will get a steal with Yurov. obviously a gamble though.

I was thinking the same thing. Come on Devils trade up for this kid.

But he's a C and he's Finnish, but his parents are North American.I love the idea of giving Kakko a friend while having a player comfortable playing in North America.

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he almost sounds travis hamonic-ish before he started going downhill.

I just read someone bring up Darius Kasparaitis - probably a decent comp for Romanov. I think Romanov will score more than that, but the physicality is very similar.

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In comment 15749166 Eric on Li said: Quote: he almost sounds travis hamonic-ish before he started going downhill. I just read someone bring up Darius Kasparaitis - probably a decent comp for Romanov. I think Romanov will score more than that, but the physicality is very similar.

you know your audience, islander fans compared new dmen to kasper for at least 10 years in the late 90s/early 00s.

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But he's a C and he's Finnish, but his parents are North American.I love the idea of giving Kakko a friend while having a player comfortable playing in North America.

He is the son of Islanders Head Coach Lane Lambert

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In comment 15749200 Anakim said: Quote: But he's a C and he's Finnish, but his parents are North American.I love the idea of giving Kakko a friend while having a player comfortable playing in North America. He is the son of Islanders Head Coach Lane Lambert

I'm sure that won't be awkward at the dinner table

Imagine if the Habs end up Slaf and Yurov at 26.

Kevin Weekes
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**Keep an eye 👁 on**
I’m told several clubs are expressing interest in @CanadiensMTL
veteran Goalie Jake Allen. Among some interested clubs Wash, Edm, NJ, and more.

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Imagine if the Habs end up Slaf and Yurov at 26.

PJ is still on a high from the Canadiens taking Mysak

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In comment 15749209 Jay on the Island said: Quote: Imagine if the Habs end up Slaf and Yurov at 26. PJ is still on a high from the Canadiens taking Mysak

I just liked the Habs took Tuch and Mysak back to back. lol.

Mysak had a good year in the OHL. I think he'll be an NHLer.

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Kevin Weekes @KevinWeekes · 7m **Keep an eye 👁 on** I’m told several clubs are expressing interest in @CanadiensMTL veteran Goalie Jake Allen. Among some interested clubs Wash, Edm, NJ, and more.

Jake Allen is a good backup but I will be disappointed if the Devils sign him. They need a goalie who can be a legit full time starter. Washington is interested in several goalies so they would have to non-tender either Samsonov or Vanecek. I would rather roll the dice on either of them.

MIN gets Yurov. They already have Kaprizov dealing with Russia may as well go all in.

#25 to CHI for pick #38

Salary dump

Taylor Haase
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Flyers draft pick Cutter Gauthier just said his favorite player growing up was Sidney Crosby, lol.

If you're gonna tear it down you may as well pile up the 1st Rd picks.

they just took would have been available a round later.

I know people don't care if you have conviction on the player, but it matters IMO.

is a player I like but I don't love him here.

3 1st round Slovak's - has to be a record.

With Toronto and Edmonton being contenders I don't see them gambling on him. I bet one of them ends up with Campbell and the other Kuemper. I don't hate it as long as we don't break the bank. Him and Mac as 1/1A can work.

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they just took would have been available a round later. I know people don't care if you have conviction on the player, but it matters IMO.

Yeah it reminds me of when the Devils reached for Cory Stillman at the end of round 1 last year.

Chase Stillman.

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With Toronto and Edmonton being contenders I don't see them gambling on him. I bet one of them ends up with Campbell and the other Kuemper. I don't hate it as long as we don't break the bank. Him and Mac as 1/1A can work.

I like Husso but I dont want to pay him $5 million per season. If they can get him on a 2 year deal for $2-3.5 million per season I would be happy with that.

trades Kassian and pick 29, plus a few more picks in later years (I think a 3rd in 2024 and a 2nd in 2025) to ARI for pick 32

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trades Kassian and pick 29, plus a few more picks in later years (I think a 3rd in 2024 and a 2nd in 2025) to ARI for pick 32

Hoping the Rangers find a way to dump Nemeth. A 3rd rounder could do it.

The Rangers probably wouldn't have taken Lambert here anyway. They would've Olof Lindbom'd it.



Then again, with Gordie Clark gone, who knows?

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In comment 15749205 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 15749200 Anakim said: Quote: But he's a C and he's Finnish, but his parents are North American.I love the idea of giving Kakko a friend while having a player comfortable playing in North America. He is the son of Islanders Head Coach Lane Lambert I'm sure that won't be awkward at the dinner table

Lane is his Uncle.

My Habs friend keeps me informed, like you, on the Habs. And he said he will miss Romanov but is not too concerned losing him because they needed a big talented center (Dach). He’s glad Dach is only 21, has had injuries and the COVID year hurt his development, but he is very excited about basically trading Romanov for Dach.

Lastly, he sent me an article on another defensemen prospect you have- Arbor something….last name begins with an X. I just looked him up and found an article on him. Looks promising….tough kid who also throws his weight around. He thinks even this kid could replace Romanov. What are your thoughts? I’m pretty sure Kaiden Guhle is promoted but it seems to me with Jordan Harris, Guhle, and Barron, not to mention this Arbor kid, you have plenty prospects coming up. You are rebuilding….
Arbor X - ( New Window )

Thing is Graves and Severson are UFA next off season and our orginizational depth on D is at the point where we can let at least 1 walk or trade them as rentals at the deadline if we're out of it.

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Thing is Graves and Severson are UFA next off season and our orginizational depth on D is at the point where we can let at least 1 walk or trade them as rentals at the deadline if we're out of it.

I hope that they trade Graves and Severson if they are not in the playoff hunt. I’d hate to lose both for nothing. The devils are in good shape on D even if they were to lose both.

I guarantee that Luke Hughes will sign with the Devils as soon as Michigan’s season is over. Nemec might make the team out of camp but will be up no later than 2023 IMO. The top 6 would be Hamilton, Hughes, Nemec, Siegenthaler, Bahl, and either Ty Smith, Shakir Mukhamadullin, Reilly Walsh, or Nikita Okhotiuk.

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In comment 15749266 Stu11 said: Quote: Thing is Graves and Severson are UFA next off season and our orginizational depth on D is at the point where we can let at least 1 walk or trade them as rentals at the deadline if we're out of it. I hope that they trade Graves and Severson if they are not in the playoff hunt. I’d hate to lose both for nothing. The devils are in good shape on D even if they were to lose both. I guarantee that Luke Hughes will sign with the Devils as soon as Michigan’s season is over. Nemec might make the team out of camp but will be up no later than 2023 IMO. The top 6 would be Hamilton, Hughes, Nemec, Siegenthaler, Bahl, and either Ty Smith, Shakir Mukhamadullin, Reilly Walsh, or Nikita Okhotiuk.

I agree and I like Graves a lot. If we could get a first rounder for either I'd trade them if we're out of it. Nemec is such a good fit with all the speed and skill we have up front. His strength is his vision and finding open spots and seam passes. I think the way things went today that if he makes it to UFA,I think the Devils go as hard after Johnny Hockey as they did after Dougie Hamilton last year.
Another pick I liked tonight was the Flyers taking Cutter Gauthier at 5. Had the Devils stayed at 5 in the lottery I would have been good with him there. He's a classic Flyers PF. Obviously Minny got a steal with Jurov.

One man’s opinion from The Athletic….

Dom Luszczyszyn: Montreal’s selection of Juraj Slafkovsky felt like a galaxy brain move in a bad way – this feels like a galaxy brain move in a good way. The rumblings were that Chicago might move Kirby Dach and that the asking price was a top-15 pick – a shockingly light ask for someone who was picked third overall just three seasons ago. Montreal didn’t have one of those after the first pick, so the Canadiens got creative. Enter the Islanders, who acquired Alex Romanov and the 98th pick for the 13th, paving the way for Montreal to move the 13th and 66th for Dach.

It’s a handful, but the Canadiens got the player with the highest upside here, and the draft capital needed to acquire him wasn’t all that steep. Dach hasn’t shown nearly as much as many expected yet, but at 21 he’s still young and still has top-six upside. He’s not that yet and could very well bust, but one of his top comparables at the same age is Sean Couturier, an extremely promising proposition for the Canadiens. Dach has other less enticing comparables that bring pause but considering his pedigree he’s a smart bet.

For the other two teams involved – I have questions.

The Islanders essentially traded a first-round pick for Romanov, a player whose stock has plummeted after a horrific sophomore season. He’s shown less than nothing at the NHL level to be worth that price tag and it feels like Montreal is taking advantage of his previously high pedigree. While Romanov has some intriguing comparables of his own, none has the upside of Couturier and most became busts. I’m a skeptic, especially at that price tag.

The Blackhawks … I mean, woof. I could at least see why the team would trade Alex DeBrincat – they needed to get bad enough to tank, the qualifying offer, being two years away from free agency, and his age. Dach? How do you not keep a 21-year-old center with size drafted just three years ago? For 13th? It’s bad asset management, an all too common trend for the Blackhawks on draft day these days.

Canadiens: A
Islanders: C
Blackhawks: D

Who are some of the players the Rangers may be interested in specifically at the center position.

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My Habs friend keeps me informed, like you, on the Habs. And he said he will miss Romanov but is not too concerned losing him because they needed a big talented center (Dach). He’s glad Dach is only 21, has had injuries and the COVID year hurt his development, but he is very excited about basically trading Romanov for Dach. Lastly, he sent me an article on another defensemen prospect you have- Arbor something….last name begins with an X. I just looked him up and found an article on him. Looks promising….tough kid who also throws his weight around. He thinks even this kid could replace Romanov. What are your thoughts? I’m pretty sure Kaiden Guhle is promoted but it seems to me with Jordan Harris, Guhle, and Barron, not to mention this Arbor kid, you have plenty prospects coming up. You are rebuilding…. Arbor X - ( New Window )

Xhekaj could replace Romanov eventually, maybe. Romanov is a year older and has two NHL seasons under his belt already, so you know what you're getting basically.

I think Xhekaj might be more an AHL player. We'll see.

Why do the stats nerds hate Slafkovsky so much?

In comment 15749315 BrettNYG10 said:

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Why do the stats nerds hate Slafkovsky so much?

his numbers in the international tournaments were outliers vs his regular season production.

10 pts in 31 games with TPS (Liiga)

In comment 15749293 Rick in Dallas said:

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Who are some of the players the Rangers may be interested in specifically at the center position.

I know absolutely nothing about any of these guys, but just based on the North American skaters (we've seen in his short time, Drury leans very heavily towards North Americans over Europeans): Luca Del Bel Belluz, Owen Beck, Jack Hughes and Adam Ingram.

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In comment 15749315 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: Why do the stats nerds hate Slafkovsky so much? his numbers in the international tournaments were outliers vs his regular season production. 10 pts in 31 games with TPS (Liiga)

Thanks.

St. Louis Blues
@StLouisBlues
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TRADE ALERT: The Blues have acquired the 73rd overall pick in the 2022 NHL Draft from the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for goaltender Ville Husso. #stlblues

DET signs Husso before next Wed.

Andy Strickland
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Ville Husso has agreed to a multi year extension with the Red Wings…announcement coming soon. #LGRW

Not looking good for the Devs. They can put his the Leafs and Oilers for Kuemper or Gibson but are they worth a bidding war? Not sure it's the best use of space for the Devs at their age.

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Not looking good for the Devs. They can put his the Leafs and Oilers for Kuemper or Gibson but are they worth a bidding war? Not sure it's the best use of space for the Devs at their age.

While I think Campbell ends up back in Toronto I think the Devils will make a big push for him.

is starting to look a little bit more attractive.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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There’s a decent chance RFA D Tony DaAngelo moves today or this weekend. Carolina very much listening on him.

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is starting to look a little bit more attractive.

As I said last night I’m not crazy about Allen but I would rather sign him cheap for 1-2 years than pay Campbell $5-6 million per year for 5 years. Let Blackwood and Daws compete for the starting job with Allen as the solid veteran backup.

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Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun · 4m There’s a decent chance RFA D Tony DaAngelo moves today or this weekend. Carolina very much listening on him.

So that's why we traded Georgiev...:)

Tom Gulitti
@TomGulittiNHL
The Capitals trade goalie Vitek Vanecek and No. 46 pick in 2022 Draft to Devils for pick Nos. 37 and 70 in 2022 Draft.

In comment 15749348 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 15749346 pjcas18 said: Quote: is starting to look a little bit more attractive. As I said last night I’m not crazy about Allen but I would rather sign him cheap for 1-2 years than pay Campbell $5-6 million per year for 5 years. Let Blackwood and Daws compete for the starting job with Allen as the solid veteran backup.

You get Jake Allen for 2022-2023 for $2.8M - he's already signed. That's why he's attractive. Short $$ and short term.

and he's a decent goalie. Better as a backup or at-worst a tandem but he's not a great option as your primary starter.

Speaking of goalie...when did it become such a wasteland. What are there 5 elite goalies? and after them a bunch of mediocre options?

Vanecek is someone i mentioned yesterday. He’s a RFA so hopefully they can extend him.

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Speaking of goalie...when did it become such a wasteland. What are there 5 elite goalies? and after them a bunch of mediocre options?

IMO the elite goalies are Igor, Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Hellebuyck, and Oettiger.

NRD
@NHLRumorsDaily
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Still hearing that Philly is the leading destination if DeAngelo’s rights are moved. Nothing done/signed/sealed/delivered at the minute of this tweet, but things are fluid this time of year

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Vanecek is someone i mentioned yesterday. He’s a RFA so hopefully they can extend him.

I'll take it. Definitely a clear upgrade over the non-mac slop we trotted out there last year. I like that he's 26 and reading the Cap fan's comments on the Twitter threads make me feel even better. They're not happy

Andy Strickland
@andystrickland
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The Colorado Avalanche and Valeri Nichushkin are closing in on an extension. Still some work to get down before deal is completed. ##GoAvsGo

Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
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**Keep an eye 👁 on**
@CanadiensMTL
veteran G Jake Allen still drawing significant interest in the market. @EdmontonOilers
, @BuffaloSabres
are among those said clubs. Does the @Capitals
move of Vanecek opens the door for @AnaheimDucks
Gibson to DC ? @espn
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter

World Hockey Report
@worldhockeyrpt
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Tony DeAngelo to Philly.

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World Hockey Report @worldhockeyrpt · 6s Tony DeAngelo to Philly.

If the Flyers weren't more hatable...DeAngelo grew up a Flyers fan so I'm sure he's over the moon. But man, that Torts/DeAngelo dynamic will be fun to watch from the outside.

Just a pea for a brain.

I really don't want to hate him

So with the contract they'll give TDA it probably takes the Flyers out of the Johnny Hockey sweepstakes if he hits UFA

NRD
@NHLRumorsDaily
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Belief is the DeAngelo contract will come in around the 5mil AAV range with Philly

In comment 15749359 Stu11 said:

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In comment 15749352 Jay on the Island said: Quote: Vanecek is someone i mentioned yesterday. He’s a RFA so hopefully they can extend him. I'll take it. Definitely a clear upgrade over the non-mac slop we trotted out there last year. I like that he's 26 and reading the Cap fan's comments on the Twitter threads make me feel even better. They're not happy

He was on my wishlist last offseason. This is a very solid inexpensive move that could look much better in a year from now. Worst case is that he’s a decent backup.

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So with the contract they'll give TDA it probably takes the Flyers out of the Johnny Hockey sweepstakes if he hits UFA

Exactly, the Devils have been very quiet. They were supposed to be very active so I wonder if they are focusing solely on Gaudreau.

Pierre LeBrun
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Canes will be receiving 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks from Philly for DeAngelo twitter.com/pierrevlebrun/…

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I really don't want to hate him

Well maybe the Philadelphia Daily News could hire Uncle Larry to cover them that would cheer you up 🤣😂

Frank Seravalli
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Sounds like DeAngelo’s new contract with #Flyers is in the neighborhood of 2 years x $5 million. Waiting on final details.

NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Elliotte Friedman on NHLN says the #NHLBruins will be very aggressive in trying to re-sign David Pastrnak

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In comment 15749373 Greg from LI said: Quote: I really don't want to hate him Well maybe the Philadelphia Daily News could hire Uncle Larry to cover them that would cheer you up 🤣😂

y

hah...."Have you ever fought?"

traded to WAS was used for Ryan Chesley, a RD from USNDTP, I like him a lot.

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JFresh @JFreshHockey · 4m Vitek Vanecek, acquired by NJ, has been a backup-level goalie who isn't super reliable. Devils will be hoping for a bit of a glow-up. #NJDevils

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traded to WAS was used for Ryan Chesley, a RD from USNDTP, I like him a lot.

Damn that’s who I wanted at 37. Kevin Weekes loves Chesley.

I'm happy with that. A C would have been great but you have to take what's there.

Lane Huston

LW Adam Sykora. Thoughts?

The Rangers are loaded at LW, but not so loaded at RW and C...


Mark Edwards
@MarkEdwardsHP

Rangers take one of my faves. Adam Sykora is another relentless worker. Fantastic finish to his season. He was 30th on our list. #NHLDraft


Sam Stern
@SammmyStern

Adam Sykora has legit skill, plays with tonsssss of pace and can be a total prick.

I love this pick.




Chris Peters
@chrismpeters

The Rangers took Adam Sykora at No. 63. He was a late riser who surprised a lot of us by making Slovakia's World Championship team. He's got good wheels and despite not being big, gets to the hard areas of the ice and competes. I ranked him 47th.

Jérôme Bérubé
@Jerome_Berube

2/63 NYR Adam Sykora: A safe pick, very high floor with his great skating, tenacity and smarts. One of the best defensive forward in this class. We love his fearless attitude on the ice and also one of the youngest eligible in this draft class.

a defensive "whiz"
Adam Sykora: The Defensive Whiz - ( New Window )

Seamus Casey from the USNDP. Smallish at 5'10. I'd say Ty Smith's days in Jersey may be coming to an end. Wouldn't be surprised to see him dealt in the next week

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I'm happy with that. A C would have been great but you have to take what's there.

hoya, what were your thoughts on him? Can't say as I took note during the Games. Pundits seem to like him, more grit for the Drury grist mill?

Feels he has the potential to pop as a star.

The Morning Skate
@morning_skate
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I need a hockey historian to let me know if the Blackhawks are the first team ever to rebuild by trading their young players

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Seamus Casey from the USNDP. Smallish at 5'10. I'd say Ty Smith's days in Jersey may be coming to an end. Wouldn't be surprised to see him dealt in the next week

Might mean more that Severson is entering his final year with the Devils as they have drafted two Right DMen with their first two picks. Oh and Seamus Casey is committed to Michigan so he will play with Devil prospects Luke Hughes and Ethan Edwards.

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The Morning Skate @morning_skate · 10m I need a hockey historian to let me know if the Blackhawks are the first team ever to rebuild by trading their young players

It is a bizarre strategy. You have to think they're pushing Kane to waive his NMC. Even with only one year left on his deal you have to think contenders would be all over him especially if the Hawks agree to port half the cap hit.

he's got something seriously wrong with him.

In comment 15749439 Stu11 said:

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In comment 15749431 pjcas18 said: Quote: The Morning Skate @morning_skate · 10m I need a hockey historian to let me know if the Blackhawks are the first team ever to rebuild by trading their young players It is a bizarre strategy. You have to think they're pushing Kane to waive his NMC. Even with only one year left on his deal you have to think contenders would be all over him especially if the Hawks agree to port half the cap hit.

Normally you'd expect to deal Kane (34) and Toews (34) both in the final year of their deals first. Not the 24 year old 40+ goal scorer or the 21 year old C (even though I'm not a huge Dach fan).

the overall approach seems ass backward, and the return they are getting are piss poor independent of that. Seems like a perfect storm of shite.

Goalie Tyler Brennan who many had as the top goalie in the draft. I really wanted to come out of the draft with him or Leinonen.

Steve Kournianos
@TheDraftAnalyst

Rangers took a kid I love -- Bryce McConnell-Barker. Played for a deep Soo team and still put up points in a two-way, middle-six role. He will explode next year, mark my words. Good size, a hitter, fast, and no quit in his game. Had him ranked in the 30s.

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the overall approach seems ass backward, and the return they are getting are piss poor independent of that. Seems like a perfect storm of shite.

I agree, nobody knows what the hell they are trying to do.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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Word is Duncan Keith of the Edmonton Oilers has decided to retire. The 38-year-old has one year left on his deal at $5.54 million AAV.
Heck of a career, two-time Norris Trophy winner and Conn Smythe Trophy winner.

In comment 15749428 ColHowPepper said:

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In comment 15749418 bigbluehoya said: Quote: I'm happy with that. A C would have been great but you have to take what's there. hoya, what were your thoughts on him? Can't say as I took note during the Games. Pundits seem to like him, more grit for the Drury grist mill?

I'd be lying through my teeth if I tried to tell you I know a damned thing about him or any other hockey prospect. The very small handful of rangers-centered podcasts I listened to did all seem to mention his name in a good light.

As far as what I'm reading about both of the guys they have drafted so far, I do like the approach. Good, fast skaters who aren't menacing but are willing to play physical hockey and lean in on the defensive end.

just drafted Charles Leddy. I played with his uncle all through youth hockey and in high school. His uncle went to UVM and played on a line with Martin St. Louis.

His father was a good hockey player too - played in college at Trinity and then I think in Sweden or somewhere in Europe as a pro for short time.

great family.

are kids still there going on stage, getting jerseys, etc.

In comment 15749466 bigbluehoya said:

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I'd be lying through my teeth if I tried to tell you I know a damned thing about him or any other hockey prospect. The very small handful of rangers-centered podcasts I listened to did all seem to mention his name in a good light. As far as what I'm reading about both of the guys they have drafted so far, I do like the approach. Good, fast skaters who aren't menacing but are willing to play physical hockey and lean in on the defensive end.

:>) like your style, hoya, lol. I'm in the same boat, minus the pre-draft podcasts. I watched a good bit of the Worlds, but other than Slaf, there is not one name I'd recognize now

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just drafted Charles Leddy. I played with his uncle all through youth hockey and in high school. His uncle went to UVM and played on a line with Martin St. Louis. His father was a good hockey player too - played in college at Trinity and then I think in Sweden or somewhere in Europe as a pro for short time. great family.

Thanks for sharing PJ, I was wondering if he was related to Nick Leddy.

In comment 15749483 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 15749471 pjcas18 said: Quote: just drafted Charles Leddy. I played with his uncle all through youth hockey and in high school. His uncle went to UVM and played on a line with Martin St. Louis. His father was a good hockey player too - played in college at Trinity and then I think in Sweden or somewhere in Europe as a pro for short time. great family. Thanks for sharing PJ, I was wondering if he was related to Nick Leddy.

No relation (as far as I know). Leddy is a "local" kid from Southern CT (I think Fairfield). His family (father, uncle, etc.) grew up in Hamden.

I was wondering who was going to pick up this little Dman who apparently has a ton of talent and smarts…..HABS DID

Hutson is a constant threat with the puck on his stick. He’s the smartest player in the draft. He makes so many seam passes to generate chances. Hutson is also a highly-skilled puckhandler who shows great creativity off the offensive blue line. He makes a lot of crafty fakes and dekes to evade pressure. He’s not the fastest skater, but his edgework is quite good and allows him to use his skating to attack. The offense is clear NHL quality. Whether a barely 5-foot-9 defenseman who isn’t an elite skater can defend in the NHL is the question with Hutson. He’s a competitive, quality defender versus juniors and college opponents but that will need to be a test he’ll need to clear down the line. I think he plays in the NHL, and projects as an offensive-tilted top-four defenseman, but I realize the odds are against a player who looks like him becoming that. I stamp him this high because he’s the smartest player in the draft and I see just enough to the rest of his game to be able to elevate at higher levels.

Rangers draft appears to be over. Just reading the analysts on Twitter, seems like aside from Sykora and McConnell-Barker, the rest of the picks sucked.

In comment 15749506 5BowlsSoon said:

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I was wondering who was going to pick up this little Dman who apparently has a ton of talent and smarts…..HABS DID Hutson is a constant threat with the puck on his stick. He’s the smartest player in the draft. He makes so many seam passes to generate chances. Hutson is also a highly-skilled puckhandler who shows great creativity off the offensive blue line. He makes a lot of crafty fakes and dekes to evade pressure. He’s not the fastest skater, but his edgework is quite good and allows him to use his skating to attack. The offense is clear NHL quality. Whether a barely 5-foot-9 defenseman who isn’t an elite skater can defend in the NHL is the question with Hutson. He’s a competitive, quality defender versus juniors and college opponents but that will need to be a test he’ll need to clear down the line. I think he plays in the NHL, and projects as an offensive-tilted top-four defenseman, but I realize the odds are against a player who looks like him becoming that. I stamp him this high because he’s the smartest player in the draft and I see just enough to the rest of his game to be able to elevate at higher levels.

He was great in the U18's but I have doubts about him at the next level.

But..if players like Torrey Krug or Matt Grzelcyk can survive, not sure why Hutson couldn't. Just not counting on it. I think he was drafted where he should have been.

players still walking out of the stands when their name is called, putting on a team jersey and going on the stage. this is awesome.

trying to outsmart everyone and taking 4 Russians.

Probably two rounds in some cases after where they would have been taken.

bold strategy....will it pay off.

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trying to outsmart everyone and taking 4 Russians. Probably two rounds in some cases after where they would have been taken. bold strategy....will it pay off.

I think it’s very wise especially after round 1 when the success rate is so low to begin with.

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In comment 15749520 pjcas18 said: Quote: trying to outsmart everyone and taking 4 Russians. Probably two rounds in some cases after where they would have been taken. bold strategy....will it pay off. I think it’s very wise especially after round 1 when the success rate is so low to begin with.

sure, it's low risk, but who knows what the global picture will look like in 2 or 3 years when these guys (if they pan out) would be ready - it's the players with KHL contracts you need to worry about. I think these guys do.

But again...most 3 - 7th round NHL picks don't pan out, so low risk.

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Rangers draft appears to be over. Just reading the analysts on Twitter, seems like aside from Sykora and McConnell-Barker, the rest of the picks sucked.

The picks were rounds 4-6. It's a total crapshoot regardless of what some guy on twitter says.

of these players to just play one game.

When these numbers gets qualified to something more meaningful like "NHL Regular" or plays a total of 200 games the results show NHL draft is more of a crapshoot than almost any other sport. once you get out of the 2nd round (which is low likelihood to even become an NHL regular), 3 - 7th round picks are hail mary's.

this is not a small study - it is from 2004 - 2020 (2020 may skew it a little, but not a ton)

Round Percentage of Players to play an NHL Game
1 94%
2 70%
3 54%
4 44%
5 34%
6 31%
7 26%

Vanecek is a nice gamble at G and they need to eventually get this position settled - not sold on Blackwood's head/commitment to this team and being a lead guy yet. He's got ability and Gs tend to be sensitive/prone to engimatic development sometimes before having a little window of success. Sounds like unless Devils move Blackwood, they'll go with this tandem and stay out of the Jack Campbell or Darcy Kuemper signings.

Nemec fills a need and is a RHD type Devils have been looking for close to 15 yrs in draft after Larsson didn't exactly develop or come as advertised as a Lidstrom lite (he's a little bit like an Adam Fox type in some ways with passing ability and pushing the puck, not as physical but probably a bit better defensively).

And they added more D prospects to their stockpile in system, likely pushing some of the existing ones to make their move or get let go. Expect they go heavier at F in next years draft. While I expect improvement in record and better goaltending, they'll probably be picking somewhere between 10-18 again in a much deeper draft.

I don't think Gaudreau is a realistic add for Devils - sounds like he's Flyers bound, but Devils need to add a top forward sooner than later even if Alex Holtz develops.

Deangelo's extension will take them right up to the cap so unless they are keeping both Couturier + Ellis on LTIR next year it seems tough. Couturier said he was close to getting medically cleared a few months ago.

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In comment 15749511 Anakim said: Quote: Rangers draft appears to be over. Just reading the analysts on Twitter, seems like aside from Sykora and McConnell-Barker, the rest of the picks sucked. The picks were rounds 4-6. It's a total crapshoot regardless of what some guy on twitter says.

Correct, but if the Rangers want sustained success, they need to start hitting on some of their late-round picks like other teams do.

Having fun looking at this guys Youtube Channel. He does a short vid on practically everyone.
Lane Huston - ( New Window )

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Vanecek is a nice gamble at G and they need to eventually get this position settled - not sold on Blackwood's head/commitment to this team and being a lead guy yet. He's got ability and Gs tend to be sensitive/prone to engimatic development sometimes before having a little window of success. Sounds like unless Devils move Blackwood, they'll go with this tandem and stay out of the Jack Campbell or Darcy Kuemper signings. Nemec fills a need and is a RHD type Devils have been looking for close to 15 yrs in draft after Larsson didn't exactly develop or come as advertised as a Lidstrom lite (he's a little bit like an Adam Fox type in some ways with passing ability and pushing the puck, not as physical but probably a bit better defensively). And they added more D prospects to their stockpile in system, likely pushing some of the existing ones to make their move or get let go. Expect they go heavier at F in next years draft. While I expect improvement in record and better goaltending, they'll probably be picking somewhere between 10-18 again in a much deeper draft. I don't think Gaudreau is a realistic add for Devils - sounds like he's Flyers bound, but Devils need to add a top forward sooner than later even if Alex Holtz develops.

I would feel much better about the Devils odds today if they fired Ruff and replaced him with someone Cassidy. I still can't believe that Fitzgerald decided to bring him back especially when you had options like Cassidy and Trotz available. Fitzgerald is now on the hot seat and rightfully so. I already know how next season is going to go. The Devils are going to start off very poorly and Ruff will be fired after two months and then the team will play much better under whoever replaces him and we once again see the Devils waste another year of Hughes and co. prime.

After the Deangelo trade Philly doesn't have the cap space for Gaudreau.

In comment 15749514 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 15749506 5BowlsSoon said: Quote: I was wondering who was going to pick up this little Dman who apparently has a ton of talent and smarts…..HABS DID Hutson is a constant threat with the puck on his stick. He’s the smartest player in the draft. He makes so many seam passes to generate chances. Hutson is also a highly-skilled puckhandler who shows great creativity off the offensive blue line. He makes a lot of crafty fakes and dekes to evade pressure. He’s not the fastest skater, but his edgework is quite good and allows him to use his skating to attack. The offense is clear NHL quality. Whether a barely 5-foot-9 defenseman who isn’t an elite skater can defend in the NHL is the question with Hutson. He’s a competitive, quality defender versus juniors and college opponents but that will need to be a test he’ll need to clear down the line. I think he plays in the NHL, and projects as an offensive-tilted top-four defenseman, but I realize the odds are against a player who looks like him becoming that. I stamp him this high because he’s the smartest player in the draft and I see just enough to the rest of his game to be able to elevate at higher levels. He was great in the U18's but I have doubts about him at the next level. But..if players like Torrey Krug or Matt Grzelcyk can survive, not sure why Hutson couldn't. Just not counting on it. I think he was drafted where he should have been.

There is obviously reason to have doubts but I think this kid is going to have a great NHL career. IMO the Canadians landed the Krug.

Maybe dump Van Riemsdyk on a team willing to take him on for an asset. However the TDA move and contract is not something a team does that's looking to clear space for someone else.

back to NSH, 8*$8.5M

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Maybe dump Van Riemsdyk on a team willing to take him on for an asset. However the TDA move and contract is not something a team does that's looking to clear space for someone else.

agreed. i think gaudreau is possibly going to be a njd vs. nyi bidding war. i would imagine the isles paid a premium for a cost controlled defenseman and passed on trading for the wingers available because they figured if they are giving out a massive contract they may as well just do it in UFA.

the isles supposedly offered 11m+ for panarin a few years ago and it was reported he took less from the nyr, i wouldn't be surprised if they try something similar here if gaudreau does genuinely have interest in returning the east coast. lebrun says the flames last offer was in the 9.5m range.

the flames beat reporter for the athletic did an article last month on landing spots if he leaves and nyi/njd were in it while the other 3 now seem capped out (phi, pitt, nash). the 'if he leaves' is the question.

to reduce AAV, not saying Forsberg is not worth it.

pj, a question, with two aspects:
1/ Is the NHL out of touch, or behind the curve, in terms of cap ceilings that are clearly constraining front office flexibility, (bit extreme here--to a point of triage)? There seems such a divide, a chasm, between players worth the contracts and their cap hits vs the little guys necessary to fill out a full roster

2/ I am not suggesting the NHL follow in the footsteps of the NBA, obviously smaller rosters, where it seems every non-entity gets $4, $5 or $6 mm, let along the mega $10s of millions AAV the putative stars receive. Is the NHL unduly hamstringing its franchises, or will the economics simply not support higher caps? Does Bettman, et al. need to do better on the League TV contracts?

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to reduce AAV, not saying Forsberg is not worth it. pj, a question, with two aspects: 1/ Is the NHL out of touch, or behind the curve, in terms of cap ceilings that are clearly constraining front office flexibility, (bit extreme here--to a point of triage)? There seems such a divide, a chasm, between players worth the contracts and their cap hits vs the little guys necessary to fill out a full roster 2/ I am not suggesting the NHL follow in the footsteps of the NBA, obviously smaller rosters, where it seems every non-entity gets $4, $5 or $6 mm, let along the mega $10s of millions AAV the putative stars receive. Is the NHL unduly hamstringing its franchises, or will the economics simply not support higher caps? Does Bettman, et al. need to do better on the League TV contracts?

that (term) is an advantage current clubs have over new teams. Only the current team can offer 8 year contracts, 7 years is max for new teams.

CHP, cap, contracts, value, trades is something I am really bad at, but I think like most sports the NHL wants parity. They don't want you to be able to sign all your players after winning, conversely they want the salary floor to force teams to spend. But as you know teams find loopholes (like TB with Kucherov on LTIR an entire season only to return for the playoffs where there is no cap or ARI taking on bad contracts like retired players to get to the floor vs spending on players).

I think this year is the result of COVID and lost revenue, NHL probably has less margin to play with the than the other sports, but again not my area of expertise.

the new ESPN deal ($1bn) is a positive but they are still way behind the other sports including NBA. NHL annual revenues peaked at $5bn the last full year pre-pandemic and i think they are going to get back to that this year (Bettman said they did 5.2bn this year which is actually their highest).

the NBA was at almost 9bn in their last year pre-pandemic and they didn't get hit as hard since so much $ comes from broadcast rights. their last tv deals were worth $24bn combined and their next one is going to be even bigger to the point where it may double their cap - so the NHL is just simply way behind the other 3 leagues on the topline.

pj, Eric. The divide on TV packages is just crazy to my mind, I don't 'get' the apparent broadbased popularity of the NBA where one or two, maybe three if a team is lucky, dominate the game, the action. Steph and Draymond, LBJ, Luka, etc. are great athletes and have nuance in their games, as do many, but game outcomes come down to those players' dominance. To me there's no comparison to the speed, the complexity, the tactical changes on the fly, constant change and motion.

I will say the NHL has a lot to learn from the NBA's marketing, starting with the voices in the booths, where they are (said to be) both knowledgeable and marketing in their schticks. Many of the NHL guys at intermission are just boobs, I can't stand Steve Loudmouth Levy and Messier and Chelios I found lame, at best. I thought the Western Conf. SCP broadcast teams far superior, even though Gretsky did not shine imo. How long before Vally goes national?

I'm just bitter they dropped Kathryn Tappen LOL, though I got to like Emily Kaplan, thought she was really good in the Cup ceremony, came across as very genuine.

would not have survived the network change in any event)

in the games I saw (Rangers games). They didnt mince words and told it like it was

Kaplan wasnt good doing the on-ice interviews. Asked some useless questions, never knew when to stop

watch to see Emily Kaplan (or Messier or Chelios for that matter) I may be wrong, but I don't think any of the studio analysts or sideline reporters change the enjoyment or experience for most viewers. Even the in-game crew. Even with football, if someone tells me Buck and Aikman are the best, great, if the game is called by Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts I'm still going to watch if I planned to watch.

I think it's a conscious choice by the networks what programming to make available on which network at which time and I think that impacts popularity to an extent.

Hockey lags behind the other sports in terms of revenue and TV contract, but as a fan of all 4 major US sports I think hockey is the best one to watch. I think football is next, followed by NBA and baseball is last.

but people watch what's on and I do think it's kind of a chicken and egg thing, sure the ratings are lower for hockey, but again it's because it's on ESPN 3 and not marketed the same as the other sports.

not to be cynical, but for hockey to take off it needs a Tiger Woods. A star that networks want to market and promote.

my best guess is that unlike the other 3 sports it's not easy to play as a kid - especially on ice. basketball and football are the easiest, all you need are balls/courts/fields and any number of people on even teams.

the little bit of extra complication with baseball has been speculated as a reason for it's decline too (need full teams, bigger fields, etc). that also in part explains why it's more popular in canada where frozen pond skating is a thing.

the end of the day it's just eyeballs. NBA playoff games in their first 2 rounds averaged 3.7m viewers. NHL playoff games in the first round averaged 750k and id bet combining the first 2 rounds like the NBA would still be under 1m. I watched/enjoy both and think generally the NHL is a better product but viewers vote with their eyeballs and that's not the majority opinion.

the only conscious decision by the networks is to put on whatever gets them the highest ratings and the NHL just doesnt do it. i dont think it's the announcers, players, or anything that can be consciously changed quickly. like soccer it's just behind the other 3 sports. any major changes will take decades and probably be for macro reasons outside of anyone's individual control.
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Stefen Rosner
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I know #Flyers are trying to move Provorov and his $6.75 mil (AAV) over next three years. Going to be tough.

But Slaf was definitely #1 on the Devs' board and they did attempt to trade the pick once he was taken but they didn't have enough time with only 5 minutes between picks. Once again as I had said earlier in the day,I bet had Chicago not been in such a rush they could have had #2 in a similar package. Had Montreal taken Wright I'm sure the same package would have been on the table for #7. Oh well water under the bridge.

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Stefen Rosner @stefen_rosner · 4h I know #Flyers are trying to move Provorov and his $6.75 mil (AAV) over next three years. Going to be tough.

Yeah anything is possible, but Gaudreau is probably getting 11 or 12 mill per if he hits Ufa.

that obviously doesn't mean most popular but the players get guaranteed contracts and enjoy pretty long careers unlike the nfl, and the best players get paid as much guaranteed as the highest paid NFL players except QBs.

they have a good arbitration system that gets young guys paid faster than MLB, with less time in the minors.

a lot more players make it to the pros than the NBA so the odds of success aren't borderline impossible. and there's actual parity where any team at any seed in the playoffs can get to and win a cup like MON almost did last year even against a legit dynasty like TB.

the games themselves have fewer commercial interruptions and really good flow.

growing the game is obviously something they should work towards but i hope they never do it at the expense of the game.

For trading #2 because Seattle is said to have loved Nemec as well. Unless Arizona wanted Wright so bad that they offered them something to move up 1 spot, but we know that's not the case.

I don't watch the NBA so I can't comment on the rhythm of telecasts from the NYC Metro area; certainly the NFL, with its core Sundays' rhythm, add in MNF and later THNF, you can set your clocks to it, until late season and Playoffs and you get some Sat football. It's no brainer, if you know the day of the week you know there's NFL or not.

Hockey seems to start very gradually early in the season, a function I suppose of the network contracts, with few games in the first couple of months, or at least that's been my impression, could be flat out wrong. pj is extraordinary, I'd say close to unique, in his encyclopedic knowledge of most of the teams. I consider myself a fairly avid fan, certainly of NYR, good knowledge of NJD (stu, I think you complain too much about a wealth of riches), NYI, Bruins and main NYR opponents. Beyond that penumbra, I'm pretty clueless, so a mid-week, 10 PM start of Dallas and St. Jose or Seattle vs LAK is not going to whet my whistle. Is my horizon too limited or is the League not successful enough in surfacing the talent, the stories?

I've thought the same as you, Eric: if the universe of potential fans--and/or if their LEVEL of interest--is dependent in part on whether they've played the sport or not, the NHL is likely playing from behind, Stateside.

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that obviously doesn't mean most popular but the players get guaranteed contracts and enjoy pretty long careers unlike the nfl, and the best players get paid as much guaranteed as the highest paid NFL players except QBs. they have a good arbitration system that gets young guys paid faster than MLB, with less time in the minors. a lot more players make it to the pros than the NBA so the odds of success aren't borderline impossible. and there's actual parity where any team at any seed in the playoffs can get to and win a cup like MON almost did last year even against a legit dynasty like TB. the games themselves have fewer commercial interruptions and really good flow. growing the game is obviously something they should work towards but i hope they never do it at the expense of the game.

Definitely agree the NHL is the fairest path to getting paid. Even after RFA years and arbitration, it's 7 accrued seasons or 27 years old, whichever comes first, to become a UFA.

I don't think more players make it than NBA though on a per draft standpoint. NBA draft is just 2 rounds, NHL is 7 and on a percent drafted standpoint, I have to believe the NBA is higher - just to reach the league for a simple measure, not looking qualitatively.

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I've thought the same as you, Eric: if the universe of potential fans--and/or if their LEVEL of interest--is dependent in part on whether they've played the sport or not, the NHL is likely playing from behind, Stateside.

where they are playing from behind is share of attention. everyone only has so much bandwidth and sports fandom is communal so the casual fans are going to pay attention to whatever is most popular (both on tv and participating). so it's outside of any league's control because I think the only way to significantly move up or down the pecking order is multi-decade shift like everything that happened to move the NFL moved up and MLB moved down. the nfl did a lot right but they also got lucky with the tech advances in TV/video games, fantasy football, and all that continuing to grow the game. they've also done a lot wrong in the last decade and it hasn't mattered (yet).

as much of a communal sensation as peak Tiger was the PGA ratings have still (mostly) struggled without him which is just to say it's really hard for a sport to keep people's attention based on anything they do in a vacuum.

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In comment 15750075 Eric on Li said: Quote: that obviously doesn't mean most popular but the players get guaranteed contracts and enjoy pretty long careers unlike the nfl, and the best players get paid as much guaranteed as the highest paid NFL players except QBs. they have a good arbitration system that gets young guys paid faster than MLB, with less time in the minors. a lot more players make it to the pros than the NBA so the odds of success aren't borderline impossible. and there's actual parity where any team at any seed in the playoffs can get to and win a cup like MON almost did last year even against a legit dynasty like TB. the games themselves have fewer commercial interruptions and really good flow. growing the game is obviously something they should work towards but i hope they never do it at the expense of the game. Definitely agree the NHL is the fairest path to getting paid. Even after RFA years and arbitration, it's 7 accrued seasons or 27 years old, whichever comes first, to become a UFA. I don't think more players make it than NBA though on a per draft standpoint. NBA draft is just 2 rounds, NHL is 7 and on a percent drafted standpoint, I have to believe the NBA is higher - just to reach the league for a simple measure, not looking qualitatively.

i meant vs. total population which i have to think is higher just based on how few people get to the NBA bc the rosters are smaller. The fact that the NBA is only a 2 round draft and the hit rate is still below 50% was kind of the point. all pro sports are long shots to go pro but i think nba is the longest.

from a youth sport playing population to the pros, yeah, hockey has the best odds because it has the fewest of the major sports playing at the youth levels.

Basketball has the most kids who play it (just using data from ages 6 - 12) than any other sport.

Ice hockey is barely above lacrosse at those ages (and will probably be behind lacrosse in 5 years).

Even when you look at college scholarships as a springboard to the pros, ice hockey is one of the "easiest" sports to get a scholarship and basketball is one of the hardest. again it's about numbers of participants because there are just 60 D1 hockey programs and 18 scholarships per team and with hoops there is 337 D1 programs offering 13 scholarships each but the competition for those spots are obviously different. Even add D2 in hockey is easier. and i say easier because it's still like winning the lottery. in hockey there are 1080 scholarships in D1 for all 4 years, so basically the best 270 kids - worldwide get 1 each year.

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from a youth sport playing population to the pros, yeah, hockey has the best odds because it has the fewest of the major sports playing at the youth levels. Basketball has the most kids who play it (just using data from ages 6 - 12) than any other sport. Ice hockey is barely above lacrosse at those ages (and will probably be behind lacrosse in 5 years). Even when you look at college scholarships as a springboard to the pros, ice hockey is one of the "easiest" sports to get a scholarship and basketball is one of the hardest. again it's about numbers of participants because there are just 60 D1 hockey programs and 18 scholarships per team and with hoops there is 337 D1 programs offering 13 scholarships each but the competition for those spots are obviously different. Even add D2 in hockey is easier. and i say easier because it's still like winning the lottery. in hockey there are 1080 scholarships in D1 for all 4 years, so basically the best 270 kids - worldwide get 1 each year.

yep this was the the point. like you said any career in pro sports is winning the lottery, but a kid wanting to play in the NHL is more like winning a scratch off jack pot vs. mega millions.

Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
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**Keep an eye 👁 on**
Two other Power Forwards in @Canucks
J.T Miller (who’s been unreal in Van) and @CanadiensMTL
Josh Anderson, also drawing major interest via trade, and still under contract, which is attractive to clubs. @espn
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter

A bit off topic from the current path of the NHL conversation, but one of the best things about hockey is how a player can be drafted in college and stay in college and continue to play hockey until they actually sign.

Baseball has a robust minor league system, so not a big deal there, but imo it's something that the NBA and NFL should do too

That blows my socks off, as in I never would have guessed so few.

And wouldn't be surprised if lax has already leap frogged hockey. When some of the other considerations mentioned above, cost and availability of facilities and costs to play suggest lax is an easier pickup:
1/ all turf fields have for ~ ten years, five at a minimum, been permanently lined for lax play (both girls and boys, as the rules and layouts are different) as well as football (as well as field hockey), so there is added expense at HS or college level vs hockey rinks, where at the HS level it's my impression very few schools have their own;
2/ expense to the player/school/club, clearly a less expensive sport to pick up equipment and play;
3/ the elusive popularity: apparent to me that lax and soccer have made big inroads vs football, you can see it from the caliber, size, of the athletes competing, at least in my area NE Metro area on CT border

Trevor Zegras grew up in the town I went to HS and his talent was obvious, but he and it were developed in private, youth hockey club teams--takes money in these parts and I suspect in California...guessing less so in Canada, MA, MI, VT, CO etc.

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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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33s
COL announces three-year extension for Alexandar Georgiev. AAV is $3.4M

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Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC · 33s COL announces three-year extension for Alexandar Georgiev. AAV is $3.4M

just saw, was going to post. Will be a story to watch '22 - '23. Hope the C NYR drafted with COL 3rd in '22 amounts to something--I think that was one of COL picks for Georgiev

Georgiev will be on his next team. probably.

Edmonton Oilers
@EdmontonOilers
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12m
The #Oilers have made qualifying offers to the following players:

🔸 Tyler Benson
🔹 Ryan McLeod
🔸 Jesse Puljujarvi
🔹 Kailer Yamamoto

Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
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31m
**Keep an eye 👁 on**
Beautiful evening here in New Jersey, and I’m told RFA F Pavel Zacha of the @NJDevils
is drawing interest via a potential trade from several clubs as NJD have 5 RFA’s .@espn
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter .

Are we sure that K'Andre Miller and Jericho Sims aren't twins separated at birth?

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Kevin Weekes @KevinWeekes · 31m **Keep an eye 👁 on** Beautiful evening here in New Jersey, and I’m told RFA F Pavel Zacha of the @NJDevils is drawing interest via a potential trade from several clubs as NJD have 5 RFA’s .@espn @NHL #HockeyTwitter .

I wonder if a JT Miller for Zacha+ trade can be worked out.

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In comment 15750700 pjcas18 said: Quote: Kevin Weekes @KevinWeekes · 31m **Keep an eye 👁 on** Beautiful evening here in New Jersey, and I’m told RFA F Pavel Zacha of the @NJDevils is drawing interest via a potential trade from several clubs as NJD have 5 RFA’s .@espn @NHL #HockeyTwitter . I wonder if a JT Miller for Zacha+ trade can be worked out.

I don't see it. Miller is 30 and has one year left on his deal. Vancouver must want Zacha + a ton more and I don't see Fitz willing to give it up. Zacha is kind of an enigma. Not a favorite at all of the fans because everyone expected more scoring out of him being picked 6th overall, however he's developed a decent 2 way game and had his best scoring season the 56 game Covid year. He was a big disappointment this past season and it's probably time for a change of scenery. I wouldn't be surprised to see him dealt, just don't think the Devs will get a ton back in return. I think the Devs want to add a top 6 fwd, problem is I think their best chip was the #2 overall. Now that the draft is over they'll take a big run at Gaudreau if he hits UFA. Otherwise I think their options are limited. Maybe they dangle Severson or Graves out there and see what it brings. Maybe package one with Zacha.

setting. Just hope CD shows discipline and patience. Not all prospects develop/blossom at the optimal rate pegged by front office, is frustrating to fans, Buch a prime example

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Quote: Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli · 11h Apropos of nothing, just had a look at #Yotes schedule for 2022-23. It's incredible. 20 out of first 24 games are on the road. They play just 2 home games in each of Oct and Nov. There is no Saturday night home game during NCAA season. (One in Dec during Christmas break.) Wow.

Sounds like the islanders last year lol.

I saw that though, and I can't imagine Coyotes fans even filling up that arena... it'll be all away fans

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In comment 15750895 ColHowPepper said: Quote: Quote: Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli · 11h Apropos of nothing, just had a look at #Yotes schedule for 2022-23. It's incredible. 20 out of first 24 games are on the road. They play just 2 home games in each of Oct and Nov. There is no Saturday night home game during NCAA season. (One in Dec during Christmas break.) Wow. Sounds like the islanders last year lol. I saw that though, and I can't imagine Coyotes fans even filling up that arena... it'll be all away fans

it seats 5,000 people, lol.

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In comment 15750950 JayBinQueens said: Quote: In comment 15750895 ColHowPepper said: Quote: Quote: Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli · 11h Apropos of nothing, just had a look at #Yotes schedule for 2022-23. It's incredible. 20 out of first 24 games are on the road. They play just 2 home games in each of Oct and Nov. There is no Saturday night home game during NCAA season. (One in Dec during Christmas break.) Wow. Sounds like the islanders last year lol. I saw that though, and I can't imagine Coyotes fans even filling up that arena... it'll be all away fans it seats 5,000 people, lol.

It's the hill Bettman will die on

Both Isles and Rangers will be in on Kadri. Offers will likely feature creative structures. Drury wants to maintain flexibility as does Lou

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No chance Drury can pull of Kadri. No chance. They need to maintain room to pay Laf and K'Andre next year.

Wouldn't mind him on the bottom-six of the Rangers.

But man, the Blackhawks are going scorched Earth. They're not even hiding the fact that they're tanking for one of Bedard, Michkov and Fantilli. Maybe they should play in a college arena like the Coyotes. :P

Kevin Weekes
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@Senators
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@MapleLeafs
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Odd choice. In that case I'd just re-sign Campbell.

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Wouldn't mind him on the bottom-six of the Rangers. But man, the Blackhawks are going scorched Earth. They're not even hiding the fact that they're tanking for one of Bedard, Michkov and Fantilli. Maybe they should play in a college arena like the Coyotes. :P

Plus they're non-tendering Strome. What a bizarre situation. They're burning the whole franchise down.

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Wouldn't mind him on the bottom-six of the Rangers. But man, the Blackhawks are going scorched Earth. They're not even hiding the fact that they're tanking for one of Bedard, Michkov and Fantilli. Maybe they should play in a college arena like the Coyotes. :P

also non-tendering Kubalik. He's one dimensional, but that one dimension might fit will on some teams.

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In comment 15751040 Anakim said: Quote: Wouldn't mind him on the bottom-six of the Rangers. But man, the Blackhawks are going scorched Earth. They're not even hiding the fact that they're tanking for one of Bedard, Michkov and Fantilli. Maybe they should play in a college arena like the Coyotes. :P Plus they're non-tendering Strome. What a bizarre situation. They're burning the whole franchise down.

This move is incredibly bizarre. This is exactly the type of player they should be keeping and trying to trade during the season. He’s coming off a 48 point season in just 69 games. They could easily get a 2nd during the season and possibly a 1st.

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Both Isles and Rangers will be in on Kadri. Offers will likely feature creative structures. Drury wants to maintain flexibility as does Lou

that's interesting for isles. some similarities to jt miller so it seems like that's the type they are going for.

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Lou loves Kadri from his time with the Leafs. Mike Rupp says he and Matthews were his only untouchables when he was running the show.

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In comment 15751055 Stu11 said: Quote: In comment 15751040 Anakim said: Quote: Wouldn't mind him on the bottom-six of the Rangers. But man, the Blackhawks are going scorched Earth. They're not even hiding the fact that they're tanking for one of Bedard, Michkov and Fantilli. Maybe they should play in a college arena like the Coyotes. :P Plus they're non-tendering Strome. What a bizarre situation. They're burning the whole franchise down. This move is incredibly bizarre. This is exactly the type of player they should be keeping and trying to trade during the season. He’s coming off a 48 point season in just 69 games. They could easily get a 2nd during the season and possibly a 1st.

I don't think they'd get a second for Strome. he was centering deBrincat and Kane.

I could put up 50 points on that line.

still I would have probably tendered him, but not a surprising move, it has been rumored for a while that both Stromes likely to hit FA.

I wasn't around on draft night. My Habs friends are pissed. I only know him from the highlight hits. He looks like he moves really well laterally. What did you see?

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Very good skater, it was IMO the least of his issues. He just got lost positionally some times.

Good skater, good shot, excellent physicality, needs development time with a good coach/system and he's without a doubt a top pair D, worst case top 4.

I was not happy to trade him. I think Dach has been a massive disappointment, Romanov has been solid, but not spectacular, though his upside has flashed.

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Wow, wonder if that's due to the coaching change or he's just wants back in the States/NHL.

to hit FA. Had such high expectations for him in BOS....

So many of these players peak early. he put up almost 50 points as a 22 year old and I thought oh, shit, now we need to deal with this guy plus Bergeron, Pasta, Marchand, Krejci, Chara, McAvoy, etc. the next n years...

but he kind of just faded away....no idea why.

Matt Vensel
@mattvensel
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12m
The Pens have decided to not extend a qualifying offer to a middle-six winger that at times tantalized in black and gold but not consistently enough.

Surprisingly, that player is Danton Heinen, not Kasperi Kapanen.

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Thanks.
Dach showed flashes of dominance in the bubble playoffs a couple years ago. Rare combo of length and silky mitts. I remember thinking at the time that he and DeBrincat were going to carry the torch from Kane/Toews. That wrist injury ruined him.

Winnipeg Jets PR
@WpgJetsPR
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52m
TRANSACTIONS: The #NHLJets have tendered qualifying offers to the following pending restricted free agents:

F – Mason Appleton
F – Pierre-Luc Dubois
D – Leon Gawanke
F – David Gustafsson
F – Jansen Harkins
D – Johnathan Kovacevic
F – Jeff Malott
F – Kristian Vesalainen

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Yeah, definitely, even when he was drafted I thought wow they have their next Toews in Dach, but you're right he got injured, lost some development time, and has never caught up. maybe the proverbial change of scenery is a good thing.

Mollie Walker
@MollieeWalkerr
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1m
#NYR say they have extended qualifying offers to Kakko, Hajek, Gettinger and Reuschhoff.

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To get under the QO wire, did this today, so numbers$ could change; doesn't mean he can't/won't get dealt.

Who is Reuschoff? Not heard of him.

Garand impressing in development camp

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from Mercogs Quote: The framework is in place for a two-year bridge deal at an average annual value between $2 million and $2.5 million, two people with knowledge of the situation told lohud.com, part of the USA TODAY Network. To get under the QO wire, did this today, so numbers$ could change; doesn't mean he can't/won't get dealt. Who is Reuschoff? Not heard of him. Garand impressing in development camp

CHP, for what player? Kakko?

Huge guy (6'7" 230), played college hockey, Rangers signed him as an undrafted free agent two years ago. Similar player to Tim Gettinger.

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Both Isles and Rangers will be in on Kadri. Offers will likely feature creative structures. Drury wants to maintain flexibility as does Lou

I strongly suspect Kadri will be a disappointment for whoever signs him. Good player, already past 30, who is going to get overpaid based off one career year playing in an insanely talented lineup.

where for Rueschhoff?

holy shit. an NHL contract?

that's more than Chytil got in his bridge deal if it exceeds 2.3M AAV. Kakko will get more than that. probably.

Sure, Rueschhoff is massive, but he's been mediocre in the AHL and is 25 before next season even starts.

that has to be a two-way contract.

Like I said, he's similar to Gettinger, but less productive.

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In comment 15751036 Diversify yo bonds said: Quote: Both Isles and Rangers will be in on Kadri. Offers will likely feature creative structures. Drury wants to maintain flexibility as does Lou I strongly suspect Kadri will be a disappointment for whoever signs him. Good player, already past 30, who is going to get overpaid based off one career year playing in an insanely talented lineup.

Totally agree, but I think you can say that about most Ufa that make it to market. Google any of the last ten years nhl free agency and 3/4 of the contracts are regrettable. 2016 being the most egregious (okposo/backes/eriksson/lucic/Ladd)

Even the success stories like JT or Panarin are now seen as albatrosses by much of the fanbases.

By definition, you are overpaying for past performance on guys about to hit their 30s.

I would lay in the weeds for short term mid tier guys

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CHP, for what player? Kakko?

Yes, Kakko, sorry, my stream of consciousness to Reusschoff muddied the waters.

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Huge guy (6'7" 230), played college hockey, Rangers signed him as an undrafted free agent two years ago. Similar player to Tim Gettinger.

Thanks, Greg. D-man? Did he play with Wolfpack '21 - 22? I have literally no recall of the name.

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In comment 15751140 pjcas18 said: Quote: CHP, for what player? Kakko? Yes, Kakko, sorry, my stream of consciousness to Reusschoff muddied the waters.

Makes *much* sense lol. If Kakko gets 2.5M thinking conservatively that leaves ~$7.7M for 6 more contracts.

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In comment 15751143 Greg from LI said: Quote: Huge guy (6'7" 230), played college hockey, Rangers signed him as an undrafted free agent two years ago. Similar player to Tim Gettinger. Thanks, Greg. D-man? Did he play with Wolfpack '21 - 22? I have literally no recall of the name.

He's a F, normally a wing, but takes face offs too.

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In comment 15751143 Greg from LI said: Quote: Huge guy (6'7" 230), played college hockey, Rangers signed him as an undrafted free agent two years ago. Similar player to Tim Gettinger. //////// He's a F, normally a wing, but takes face offs too.

Now it's coming to me, Giants signed him as a FA TE. lulz

Played in Hartford in both 20-21 and 21-22. 59 games, 14-10-24 this past season

Garand would be an early and big step up

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The Canadiens have made qualifying offers to Kirby Dach, Nate Schnarr, Joel Teasdale, Samuel Montembeault and Cayden Primeau.

Josh Brook, Kale Clague, and Rem Pitlick did not get a QO and can be UFAs on Wednesday. #GoHabsGo

decent bottom of the roster options and I think will be signed by someone on a two-way, maybe even vet min NHL deal.

I haven't seen enough of Brook. Always injured.

Kane, Tkachuk, and Lucic - talk about a thug line.

also, hole? Has Gaudreau officially signed somewhere?

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and I don't know how CAL doesn't up their offer to 11mx8 to get it done. Their salary table is pretty clean and if someone offer sheets Tkachuk you deal with that when you see it. 4 first round picks would essentially be a 2x return over what Chicago got for Debrincat.

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Panarin got 81.5m and 3 years later the only regrettable part of it is that he signed it with the Rangers not the Isles.

This isn't Martin StLouis with tree trunk legs, or a yoked up short guy like Pat Verbeek or Marchand. Calgary Theo Fleury was short but he played at 180 and was ferocious.

Johnny Hockey is 150 pounds, 20-30 lbs lighter than other undersized stars.

You can talk about the new NHL all you want, when the playoffs come and physicality ramps up, he flinches and floats. He has to, if he plays in traffic he will get hurt.

Once he starts to incur wear and tear in his early 30s and his water bug skating takes a hit, he will be useless 5v5.

I also agree with PJ that Tkachuk on his line benefits him enormously.

I'm not an actuary, but paying a guy this slightly built for 7 or 8 years is a bad bet.

As Eric said Panarin got 7/81. He did have the Islanders and Rangers bidding against each other, but this could easily become the Devil's vs the Isles and maybe even the Flyers if they somehow clear space. My prediction is if he hits UFA he's getting north of 10 per.

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someone paid Panarin > $80M

who would you rather have?

I only mention Panarin because IMO they're similar players.

several people already brought up Panarin.

in terms of points per game over their career Panarin was slightly higher over his 7 seasons than gaudreau is over his 8 but it's close, and he's coming off the best season of either of them in his walk year. this year was his 2nd top 5 finishe for mvp which panarin had 0 at that point of his career.

if he gets less than 11m im going to be surprised and id be thrilled if it's the nyi that give it to him.

October 1991 vs. August 1993.

Panarin's deal was also signed with an expected rising cap. I'd expect Gaudreau to get less due to that rather than the caliber of player. They're pretty close.

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if he gets less than 11m im going to be surprised and id be thrilled if it's the nyi that give it to him.

Lol at believing his listed weight.

Panarin is a different style of player. He's more crafty and creative relying on his hands and his vision. JG is reliant on his skating and his shot. One will age much better than the other. Both had the same issue with physicality in the playoffs.

I'm certain he will get the bag, my point is that it isn't prudent.

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October 1991 vs. August 1993.

talking about when Panarin got the 81m as a FA in 2019. he was 1 year younger then than Gaudreau is now (entering his a28 season vs. a29).

also re the cap it should start rising again thanks to the new tv deal.

In comment 15751264 Diversify yo bonds said:

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In comment 15751256 Eric on Li said: Quote: if he gets less than 11m im going to be surprised and id be thrilled if it's the nyi that give it to him. Lol at believing his listed weight. Panarin is a different style of player. He's more crafty and creative relying on his hands and his vision. JG is reliant on his skating and his shot. One will age much better than the other. Both had the same issue with physicality in the playoffs. I'm certain he will get the bag, my point is that it isn't prudent.

I don't believe anyone's listed weights are that accurate but it's all we have that's tangible. It's certainly possible one ages dramatically differently than the other but there have been players like St Louis who were productive into their late 30's. A 7 year deal takes Gaudreau to a36, and if i were signing him i'd be more than happy to get 4-5 productive years out of him through a34.

Kane is heading into his a34 and I'd be thrilled to add him if i were the isles.

In comment 15751270 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 15751264 Diversify yo bonds said: Quote: In comment 15751256 Eric on Li said: Quote: if he gets less than 11m im going to be surprised and id be thrilled if it's the nyi that give it to him. Lol at believing his listed weight. Panarin is a different style of player. He's more crafty and creative relying on his hands and his vision. JG is reliant on his skating and his shot. One will age much better than the other. Both had the same issue with physicality in the playoffs. I'm certain he will get the bag, my point is that it isn't prudent. I don't believe anyone's listed weights are that accurate but it's all we have that's tangible. It's certainly possible one ages dramatically differently than the other but there have been players like St Louis who were productive into their late 30's. A 7 year deal takes Gaudreau to a36, and if i were signing him i'd be more than happy to get 4-5 productive years out of him through a34. Kane is heading into his a34 and I'd be thrilled to add him if i were the isles.

I mentioned St Louis as a contrast. He had the strongest legs in the league. His workouts/physical fitness were legendary. That's why he was an outlier. JG isn't, he's very slight of frame.

Totally agree on Kane. Similar to what I said on Panarin, hands and vision age well. I'd be thrilled to have Kane on the isles (as would Barzal)

almost never work out.

someone mentioned it above.

When you look historically at the best FA signings in NHL history you don't see Gretzky or Lindros or plug in any superstar mega FA deal.

It's guys like Chara, Neidermayer, or even Brett Hull (who was 35 when he signed with Dallas).

That said on the right team paying a Panarin or Gaudreau makes a lot of sense. you have to score goals to win.

is whatever elevated risk you associate with Gaudreau worth:

a) not having to give up big comp for Kane (first, raty, wahlstrom, etc)
b) getting a player 5ish years younger

Kane's salary is 10.5m and he's likely to get a pretty big extension after this year for multiple seasons.

is he a more or less risky asset to bet on than Kadri entering his a32?

or JT miller entering his a29 but needing an extension for his a30 and beyond?

if calgary lets him hit the market im running to get in line to offer gaudreau $11m. the upside is too great compared to the risk not being all that different than just about any other big $ free agent. it honestly wouldn't shock me to see Lou offer Kadri a 7x6m type deal to keep his cap hit manageable...which would pay him through his a38 season.

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The #Canes have extended qualifying offers to the following players:

F Martin Necas
F Steven Lorentz
F Stelio Mattheos
D Ethan Bear
D Joey Keane
D Max Lajoie
D Jesper Sellgren
D Tarmo Reunanen

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In comment 15751258 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: October 1991 vs. August 1993. talking about when Panarin got the 81m as a FA in 2019. he was 1 year younger then than Gaudreau is now (entering his a28 season vs. a29). also re the cap it should start rising again thanks to the new tv deal.

Ah, sorry. Yes.

Bruins traded a 1st round pick for this guy in 2020 and Cassidy gets fired. Now not even QO'd by Toronto.

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Panarin is a different style of player. He's more crafty and creative relying on his hands and his vision. JG is reliant on his skating and his shot. One will age much better than the other. Both had the same issue with physicality in the playoffs. I'm certain he will get the bag, my point is that it isn't prudent.

Just looked it up. Pretty much your knocks on him have little basis in reality. He's too smallish, and he won't be able to stand up to contact? He's missed 2 games in 5 years. He has 33 points and 127 shots in 42 career playoff games. Not Crosby or Gretzky but not like he disappears and like Panarin he did score a series clinching goal in ot this year. I think him and Panarin are a great comp. None of us are Nostradamus. Predicting how guys are gonna age is near impossible unless they are injury prone which he has been the opposite of just about his whole career. Most UFA mega deals are bad long term bets. The hope is you get 4 or 5 years of top production and go from there.

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Bruins traded a 1st round pick for this guy in 2020 and Cassidy gets fired. Now not even QO'd by Toronto. Eric Stephens @icemancometh · 3m Leafs opt to not qualify Ondrej Kase. He'll now be a UFA. Interesting.

He's talented, but he's so injury-prone

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NEWS: Capitals did not qualify Ilya Samsonov

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NHL News @PuckReportNHL · 6m NEWS: Capitals did not qualify Ilya Samsonov

Now THAT's shocking. And they traded Vanicek.

must be making a play for Gibson.

Or maybe Hellebuyck I guess if the Jets tear it down.

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In comment 15751297 pjcas18 said: Quote: NHL News @PuckReportNHL · 6m NEWS: Capitals did not qualify Ilya Samsonov Now THAT's shocking. And they traded Vanicek.

Actually, looking at his stats, they're not as impressive as I thought they would be. I wonder if he would agree to be Igor's backup...

has easily been the worst of the "big 3" Russian goalies, but he's flashed enough IMO.

I'd take a chance on him especially if I had a plan B

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almost never work out. someone mentioned it above. When you look historically at the best FA signings in NHL history you don't see Gretzky or Lindros or plug in any superstar mega FA deal. It's guys like Chara, Neidermayer, or even Brett Hull (who was 35 when he signed with Dallas). That said on the right team paying a Panarin or Gaudreau makes a lot of sense. you have to score goals to win.

i'd phrase it a little differently - big $ deals are risky.

and mention that the new economics of the NHL with the max 7 make it less risky.

deals like Zach Parise and Suter are looked at as disasters but that's because they signed 13 and 14 (!!!!) year deals respectively. Parise had 5 25+ goal seasons in his first 8 with MIN. Suter got Norris votes his first 8 straight years. If they ended there everyone is happy because they made the playoffs every one of those years except 1 i think.

Tavares and Panarin have both delivered for their new teams - and again as an isles fan i'd take either on our roster at the remaining $ right now with each near their halfway point. so the universe of deals $9m+ in AAV signed at age 28/29 isn't so bad over the new 7 year deals.

But to your point you definitely need to know your situation before risking it. For teams like NJD/PHI it seems a lot riskier because it's hard to tell how close they are to winning vs. a team like NYI where their roster is pretty locked in for the next 3-4 years to go for it. Or CAL since they just put up 111 points.

They must be making a play for Gibson. Backstrom is probably gonna miss the year and may be done. If they don't solve the goaltending might we finally be seeing the fall of the Caps? Rumor has it Crosby is flying to Florida to try and convince Geno to stay in Pitt. Sounds like the Pens are offering 3 years but he wants 4.

There's our answer to our 2C problem

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They must be making a play for Gibson. Backstrom is probably gonna miss the year and may be done. If they don't solve the goaltending might we finally be seeing the fall of the Caps? Rumor has it Crosby is flying to Florida to try and convince Geno to stay in Pitt. Sounds like the Pens are offering 3 years but he wants 4.

He already flew to FL. That was their desperation move.

4 x 6.5M should get it done for Geno. I would think, but who knows.

On the latest episode of 32 Thoughts, Elliotte Friedman said there was a rumor that Miles Wood was given permission to talk to teams, but cold water was thrown on that. The #NJDevils are trying to sign him, but he said there'd be a lot of teams interested if he were available.

and the Rangers

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Just looked it up. Pretty much your knocks on him have little basis in reality. He's too smallish, and he won't be able to stand up to contact? He's missed 2 games in 5 years. He has 33 points and 127 shots in 42 career playoff games. Not Crosby or Gretzky but not like he disappears and like Panarin he did score a series clinching goal in ot this year. I think him and Panarin are a great comp. None of us are Nostradamus. Predicting how guys are gonna age is near impossible unless they are injury prone which he has been the opposite of just about his whole career. Most UFA mega deals are bad long term bets. The hope is you get 4 or 5 years of top production and go from there.

Fair point on games missed.

Did you watch the Flames in the playoffs? I did

Where did those shots come from? Did he resemble the guy who scored 115 points in the regular season cutting to the middle at will?

Check out any flames area of the internet and you'll see plenty of gifs and examples of his issues along the boards and in the slot during the playoffs. As well as some egregious defensive fly bys.

That is secondary to my main point of how he will age. He is reliant on his skating. Generally skating starts to take a hit with accumulated wear and tear in a hockey players 30s. When his skating takes a hit his production will nose dive, and he will be more susceptible to physicality given his stature. We've all seen this movie with forwards.

$11.6M on the cap. Only McDavid is higher.

I'm not a Panarin hater, despite his playoff (mostly) disappearing act, but that is why the NYR can't fit a 2C on the roster IMO. Yeah, it's hard to replace those 96 points or whatever Panarin had, but is two 50+ point players better than one 96 point player? I realize the other players are fictitious right now, but it's more the point that the specific players.

The 2M+ over spent on Panarin, plus the 3.5M in buyouts sitting on their cap is why the Rangers are struggling to fill their roster in a flat cap year. One where they should be primed to contend with a key add here or there, off a conference finals loss and a lot of youth.

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$11.6M on the cap. Only McDavid is higher. I'm not a Panarin hater, despite his playoff (mostly) disappearing act, but that is why the NYR can't fit a 2C on the roster IMO. Yeah, it's hard to replace those 96 points or whatever Panarin had, but is two 50+ point players better than one 96 point player? I realize the other players are fictitious right now, but it's more the point that the specific players. The 2M+ over spent on Panarin, plus the 3.5M in buyouts sitting on their cap is why the Rangers are struggling to fill their roster in a flat cap year. One where they should be primed to contend with a key add here or there, off a conference finals loss and a lot of youth.

Yep. And people think I'm nuts for being open to trading him, as if we don't have a guy named Alexis Lafreniere who can step right in on the second line and play LW.

Local product. Not for the Rangers, but the kid has some talent.

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Local product. Not for the Rangers, but the kid has some talent.

he's the one who scored the goal on the Zegras over the net pass (Milano knocked it in out of mid-air)

a lot of interesting Non-QO names. Flat cap hurting everyone I guess.