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With only one pick in the first three rounds (a late second)

with Kakko.

Tampa looking into moving Killorn.

DeBrincat
Devs have been rumored for any top 6 fwd available. They probably have the best ammo in the NHL right now to make a big trade with #2 overall, Bratt/Holtz if they want to deal them and tons of cap space to absorb anything.

In comment 15747432 Stu11 said:

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DeBrincat Devs have been rumored for any top 6 fwd available. They probably have the best ammo in the NHL right now to make a big trade with #2 overall, Bratt/Holtz if they want to deal them and tons of cap space to absorb anything.

I've read that the Devils and Flyers are unwilling to part with their top-5 picks for DeBrincat.

I've also read Gaudreau's name tossed around for the Devils.

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In comment 15747432 Stu11 said: Quote: DeBrincat Devs have been rumored for any top 6 fwd available. They probably have the best ammo in the NHL right now to make a big trade with #2 overall, Bratt/Holtz if they want to deal them and tons of cap space to absorb anything. I've read that the Devils and Flyers are unwilling to part with their top-5 picks for DeBrincat. I've also read Gaudreau's name tossed around for the Devils.

Yeah if he makes it to UFA I think the Devils and Flyers will be hot and heavy for Johnny Hockey. Uncle Larry brought up the Isles for him Sunday, but I don't see Lou diving into those d$$p waters. Plus if you're Gaudreau do you really want to play in that system? I know the Devils have been bad forever, but with all the young talent they have at fwd it would have to appeal to him.

13th pick, next year's 1st, and a prospect.

would also guess they trade Varlamov to clear some room and add another pick (possibly to include in that trade)?

Nick Alberga
@thegoldenmuzzy
Heading into the #NHLDraft, I’m hearing the #NHLBruins, who currently do not have a pick until late RD 2 (54), are looking to get into the first-round.

Something to keep an eye on.

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In comment 15747443 Anakim said:

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Nick Alberga @thegoldenmuzzy Heading into the #NHLDraft, I’m hearing the #NHLBruins, who currently do not have a pick until late RD 2 (54), are looking to get into the first-round. Something to keep an eye on.

Pasta on the move? Maybe one of their goalies? I did see where the Flyers won't part with #5 for the cat. Interesting because next year's draft is supposed to be loaded so teams are hesitant to trade 2023 1sts and that goes double for teams like the Devils and Flyers who could easily find themselves back in the lottery. Though a 2023 first and Holtz for DeBrincat is something the Devils would have to think about.

Keep Kappo? What about Chytil? Who should they target as UFAs or trades?

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In comment 15747456 gtt350 said:

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You have to to get what you need to win it all. There is no 2C on this roster and limited cap space to acquire one. You need to deal some youth to open cap room for an established 2C

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In comment 15747456 gtt350 said: Quote: . You have to to get what you need to win it all. There is no 2C on this roster and limited cap space to acquire one. You need to deal some youth to open cap room for an established 2C

I agree to an extent, snab. Who do you target and what do you think they can afford to part with? I'm so wary at how the tenor of the Yanks team changed following the trade for Stanton that I'm overly cautious. Analysis paralysis, if you will.

make sense. Larkin, too, but would DET trade him?

is an RFA, he will likely get $7M plus for 2022-2023 or more in a LT deal.

Scheifele ($6.125M for each of next two years) has a M-NTC (10 teams) but has two years remaining at a team friendly price

Larkin ($6.1M for 2022) has a NTC and is from DET and a UFA after the season, maybe he waives it, but if he does, it's probably only with an extension in the 8M+ per year/7 year range.

I think all three should be targets, but I don't see how they fit in the remaining cap space even subtracting Chytil and then having room to sign enough players to fill a roster.

NYR have $10.2M in space right now with 16 out of 23 NHL contracts filled
- Chytil = $12.5M in space (and just 15 NHL contracts)

Kakko is not in the $12.5M number because he's an RFA.

Trading for:
PLD leaves ~5.5M to sign 7 NHL contract players
Scheifele leaves $6.4M to sign 7 NHL contract players
Larkin leaves $6.4M to sign 7 NHL contract players

without subtracting more salary I don't see how it works for any of the three *and* makes the team better.

youngsters out in order to fill some key holes, eg 2C. Maybe they can attach a draft pick to move Nemeth, but they still might choose to flip Chytil, for example, to make cap space and a spot for a prospect like Cuylle (sp?). It's going to be interesting, Kakko plays a responsible game but has shown no signs of being an offensive force as we hoped.

in the postseason you have to move him if the financials enable adding a 2C. That’s the most glaring weakness on the team. This team is close, has an elite goaltender and needs to pounce if the opportunity is out there.

IMO the Rangers need to move to add a 2C it's a bigger contract. Chytil and Kakko combined clears just $2.3M.

I think the better options for the Rangers are to set their sights a little lower than the PLD, Scheifele, Larkin level.

Then I'd rather just give Chytil a legit shot at the position.

In comment 15747440 Eric on Li said:

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13th pick, next year's 1st, and a prospect. would also guess they trade Varlamov to clear some room and add another pick (possibly to include in that trade)?

varly to edm for that fwd...i know who im talking about but im not gonna attempt to spell his name right now

In comment 15747501 pjcas18 said:

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IMO the Rangers need to move to add a 2C it's a bigger contract. Chytil and Kakko combined clears just $2.3M. I think the better options for the Rangers are to set their sights a little lower than the PLD, Scheifele, Larkin level.

If they were going to set their sights lower they would just resign Copp or Strome. Clearly the Rangers know they need to be better at 2C, and a few reporters have said Drury is trying to trade for a 2C, so he must think he can make the numbers work

Whether it happens or not, trying to trade for the 2C they need is the right play

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Then I'd rather just give Chytil a legit shot at the position.

I would but you still need a C. 2C/3C they need someone.

Whether they re-sign Copp, Strome, etc. Chytil at 2C means they need a 3C - easier to find in theory, but still need to fill the spot.

I believe the Rangers only even have 2 centers on the roster right now with Mika and Chytil.

and their two best prospects, Othmann and Cuylle, are LW's.

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In comment 15747440 Eric on Li said: Quote: 13th pick, next year's 1st, and a prospect. would also guess they trade Varlamov to clear some room and add another pick (possibly to include in that trade)? varly to edm for that fwd...i know who im talking about but im not gonna attempt to spell his name right now

Puljujärvi, I'd do that if I'm NYI, perfect change of scenery guy, and I think Sorokin proved he earned the bulk of the starts.

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He'll be in the mix in the bottom 6

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he can play C, but he's not a C. at least it's not his best position.

the opinions were still shifting.

what a terrible year for a top pick.

I have read almost all of the top 10 picks are being some level of shopped and the most common ask I am seeing is a 1st round pick for next year - especially since next year is supposed to be a loaded draft.

The primary duty that distinguishes a 2C from his wings is defensive: he has to be able to play the opponent behind the net. Chytil has really improved in that area.


So I think you really have to think about lines rather than individuals at certain positions. If Chytil plays with KK and Laf, he is fine. He could also play with Panarin since Artemi generally controls the puck in the offensive zone anyway

The kid line was a killer in the playoffs. Don't fix what isn't broken

that 'clearing' youth is not going to make a difference whereby the returns strengthen the roster to the point of taking the next step. Cap barely moves the needle.

It's certainly true Kappo has disappointed in projected offensive production and he's missed a ton of games, not a good combo, but it also means Drury would be selling at the bottom; the return, absent other elements in the mix, would be underwhelming. The other side of that is that his best work this season came as RW on Kids' Line, prior to Gallant's mystifying and indefensible decision to sit him. (So, agree w/Vanz, had to peek back to check something)

As far as Staples' ahem <League> sources, I cannot rationalize or accept going back to Strome, even if Staple is saying that's the way the tea leaves are reading because he would accept the discount. His play left too much to be desired across all facets. Copp is far preferable to me as 3C if Filip can step up.

Seeing Strome on this roster next year would represent to me a big step backwards.

Moving Nemeth is key, and Drury may have to part with prospects of value.

They lost because TB took away center ice after the first two games and Gallant had no answer for that strategy.

So Rangers had to bring the puck up along the boards and then when they attempted top pass into the middle of the ice, TB picked off their passes, leading to rushes the other way.

is looking outside org for a center. Time for Strome to move on and can’t compound the problem by signing Copp (regardless of price they paid). Curious what cost would be on both Miller and Schiefele…

That is why some big name reporters said last week that Drury is trying to trade for one instead of immediately resigning Strome/Copp or anointing Chytil, who had a good 2 week stretch in the playoffs but has done nothing else in his 4 years

If the Rangers top 3 forwards were younger, then you could wait on Chytil and hope. But they arent, and Drury apparently realizes this. Thus the push to trade for a 2C

opinion of a 2C, but I think the Rangers are better off keeping Kakko and Chytil and trading someone like Cuylle for Christian Dvorak.

The Av's just steamrolled the playoffs with Nazem Kadri as their 2C and then when Kadri was injured they had JT Compher.

People have unrealistic expectations on what a 2C is if they're expecting Malkin, Draisaitl or Tavares. Points is not the only or best indicator of what a 2C is. Phillip Danault was 1C for the Habs (in a year they went to the SCF) never scored more than 13 goals in a season, goes to LAK as the 2C and puts up 27 goals - more than double his career best. Around the same point total, but at 28 years old did something change that doubled his goal production? Yeah, his line mates, system, role, defensive responsibility, etc.

I think the cap will eventually right size after the flat year, so I think short sighted moves would be foolish. With the Rangers mix of veterans, stars, and youth plus an elite goalie they should contend for a long time if they don't overthink it.

back to the Avs - 1 year $1.25M

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Dejan Kovacevic
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Source tells me Penguins and Kris Letang are close to a contract. I've got absolutely no detail beyond that, so don't ask. But source sure made it sound like it'll get done. And that it'll most likely be for three years. ... Again, it's all I've got.

to keep Letang and Malkin, but I don't think I would if I were them. I would tear it down. All of it.

but then again, I underestimate Mike Sullivan's coaching ability every single year to make the playoffs with basically 2 NHL lines since that's all they can afford with Crosby, Malkin and Letang.

I know most people will laugh at me for suggesting it or be outraged or both. But I have zero emotional attachment to any players at this point of my life. I just want to see the Rangers win another Stanley Cup.

Because of their cap situation and no move contracts, if I was the GM of the Rangers I'd try to trade Adam Fox in a package for an elite center - Barkov or Matthews. The Leafs especially are in a similar situation as the Rangers. Up against the cap, unbalance roster. I think the Rangers have at least two players who could replace Fox in Jones and Lundkvist at 1/10 of the cost and I would guess they could provide about 80% of Fox's production.

If anyone has a better idea of how the Rangers can improve their top 6 and win a Stanley Cup I would like to hear it. I don't see how next year's team will be better than last year's team with all the FA's that are going to leave and little money to replace them.

He is a rising star in the making.

they just rolled four, productive lines at you, game after game, 3rd and 4th line forwards played key roles but far from all stars. Guys on those lines (e.g., Goodrow and others who left as FAs last season) don't seem quite as productive...as they transition. We'll see if the GM can produce to re-create some new, cohesive lines.

On the wings as well as a second line center. (Stronger as in get your ass in front of the net stronger).

For Fox? I love him but I’ll pick up Fox and drive him to either city.

Carl, hope you are well and coping ok.

I've been one of Fox's sternest critics, on NYR threads all season, and I won't necessarily disagree with approval of that swap for a top C, but addressing the other end of the premise is:

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I think the Rangers have at least two players who could replace Fox in Jones and Lundkvist at 1/10 of the cost and I would guess they could provide about 80% of Fox's production.

Cost, maybe, but what happens to D pair 1 when you take Fox off and leave Lindgren. Do you elevate JT and Schneider to D pair 1? Maybe. But the notion that either, or both, Jones/Lundkvist 'could' provide ~ 80% of Fox's production (read: offensive) I think is ludicrous. Jones is a nice, smooth puck mover but didn't show elite scoring potential; Lundkvist in the SHL was great on the PP from the left point, but there is no way I see either coming anywhere close to an 80% closure on Fox's playmaking totals for the next two years, at least.

Besides, Drury doesn't have the balls.

Been tough great guy. I appreciate.

In comment 15747611 ColHowPepper said:

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Carl, hope you are well and coping ok. I've been one of Fox's sternest critics, on NYR threads all season, and I won't necessarily disagree with approval of that swap for a top C, but addressing the other end of the premise is: Quote: I think the Rangers have at least two players who could replace Fox in Jones and Lundkvist at 1/10 of the cost and I would guess they could provide about 80% of Fox's production. Cost, maybe, but what happens to D pair 1 when you take Fox off and leave Lindgren. Do you elevate JT and Schneider to D pair 1? Maybe. But the notion that either, or both, Jones/Lundkvist 'could' provide ~ 80% of Fox's production (read: offensive) I think is ludicrous. Jones is a nice, smooth puck mover but didn't show elite scoring potential; Lundkvist in the SHL was great on the PP from the left point, but there is no way I see either coming anywhere close to an 80% closure on Fox's playmaking totals for the next two years, at least. Besides, Drury doesn't have the balls.

Not to mention why would a competitor bail the Rangers out just for Fox rather than 80% at 10% of the price?

:>)

Time for Drury to earn respect and his title.

that both teams will most likely move. Where do both goalies go? Who gets the better return?

In comment 15747640 Maryland Blows said:

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that both teams will most likely move. Where do both goalies go? Who gets the better return?

Georgiev is an RFA, so it's likely his rights get traded, right?

I doubt they get much back for that.

Varlamov is signed next year for $5M. I think he's a better goalie, but $5M for a backup might be kind of steep. And if you think he's a starter, he's 34, so not sure how much you want to trade to acquire him.

Not sure who gets more, trade value is not something I'm good at, but I just don't think I'd give up much for the rights to Georgiev.

Trade Fox? Would you have traded Brian Leetch in his prime? I don't care how good Lundqvist was in Sweden or Jones in Hartford, neither one has the ability that Fox does.

Chytl a rising star? Because he had a little hot streak in the playoffs? He has those hot streaks of 3 or 4 games in the regular season too then does nothing for 25 games. Plus, he's terrible on face offs.

If they can't afford a DuBois or Larkin, they should try to make it work with Copp. He's defensively responsible, good on face offs and can provide some offense. He's not usually as good a point producer as he was after the trade so I wouldn't get sucked in thinking he's going to put up a bunch of numbers, but I do think he's better than Strome.

Mario Lemieux you wouldn’t have done it.