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Maryland Blows : 7/5/2022 11:25 am
The next few days things should start to heat up arounnd the NHL. Teams will be looking to get guys signed or shed salary in order to go after players in FA.

The Rangers need to make moves in order to keep some of their FA's or bring in new players.

The Islanders will look to move Bailey for sure and they have been linked to Forsberg and Gaudreau.

If you see or hear something let us know. Should be an interesting next 2 weeks.

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RE: RW  
ColHowPepper : 7/30/2022 12:38 pm : link
In comment 15765816 pjcas18 said:
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overall seems like a weak position league wide.
LOL, closest NYR can sniff RW list is two ex-Rangers at ## 16 and 17.
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pjcas18 : 8/1/2022 9:20 am : link
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
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4m
#Isles fans, multiple transactions are looking close. In addition to all the Nazem Kadri chatter, which I believe is valid, some internal house cleaning is also being taken care of. When will all the dominoes fall? That’s up to you-know-who.
Good news  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2022 2:48 pm : link
I'm worried about some of these guys. And I think it might have contributed to the Romanov trade.

Michael Russo
@RussoHockey
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49m
SOURCES: #mnwild’s Kirill Kaprizov leaves Russia early, will return to Minnesota Tuesday
Canada absolutely loaded for  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2022 6:26 pm : link
resumption of WJC next week (was canceled in December after it began due to COVID outbreak).

Totally forgot about that.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/1/2022 6:32 pm : link
Do we have a schedule?
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 8/1/2022 6:33 pm : link
In comment 15767733 pjcas18 said:
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David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
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4m
#Isles fans, multiple transactions are looking close. In addition to all the Nazem Kadri chatter, which I believe is valid, some internal house cleaning is also being taken care of. When will all the dominoes fall? That’s up to you-know-who.


im really fascinated to see where this deal comes in $-wise. 3x7m is a popular projection but i think lou will go 1 or 2 years longer to get the aav lower so maybe 5x6m or 4x6.5m? or if Lou really wants to stretch 6x5m?

Malkin got 4x6.1m entering age 36.
Giroux got 3x6.5n entering age 34.

Kadri entering his age 32 would seemingly be reasonable on any of those.

more fascinating will be who they move out of the dot.
RE: Totally forgot about that.  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2022 6:36 pm : link
In comment 15768490 BrettNYG10 said:
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Do we have a schedule?


Yes, US is here https://teamusa.usahockey.com/2022wjcscheduleandresults

Total schedule is here:
https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2022/wm20/schedule

A few Rangers prospects on Canada (Cuylle, Othmann, Garrard)

Thanks!  
BrettNYG10 : 8/1/2022 8:38 pm : link
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BrettNYG10 : 8/2/2022 1:37 pm : link
Malkin's birthday cake. Thought this was cool.
Twitter - ( New Window )
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pjcas18 : 8/2/2022 11:04 pm : link
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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1m
Hearing #Flames and Andrew Mangiapane have agreed to terms at 3 years x $5.8 million, avoiding arbitration.
remaining RFAs  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2022 10:28 am : link
...I have read some rumblings of a Dach for PLD trade possible (more pieces from MTL).

Jesper Bratt is back in NJ  
Anakim : 8/3/2022 10:30 am : link
1-year for 5.45M
Still two more cuts  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2022 10:41 am : link
to be made, but team USA looks strong for next weeks WJC redo.

highlights:

Thomas Bordeleau (SJS 2nd round '20)
(what an awful string of luck he's had, hope this works out, fantastic player)

Luke Hughes (NJD 1st round '21)

Logan Cooley (ARI 1st round '22)

Matt Coronato (CAL 1st round '21)

Frank Nazar (COL 1st round '22)

Brett Berard (NYR 5th round '20)

Only 4 holdovers from last year's gold medal team.

Every US player is either drafted or draft eligible in '23 except for Hunter McCown, and not sure he makes it.

Big story, all three US goalies are '23 draft eligible.

RE: Jesper Bratt is back in NJ  
Stu11 : 8/3/2022 10:45 am : link
In comment 15770705 Anakim said:
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1-year for 5.45M

I know a lot of people are giving Fitz a hard time over not getting Bratt locked up long term, however it takes 2 to tango. Every other young player on the Devils including Jack, Nico and Siegenthaler has had seamless negotiations on long term extensions. Bratt went to war with them 2 years ago and didn't get signed till the pre-season was over, now this. The Devils have said over and over how much they want to lock him up long term. I wonder if his long term demands have been un-realistic. Oh well they have team control over him for another 2 seasons. I wouldn't be shocked if they trade him at some point, even soon.
RE: RE: Jesper Bratt is back in NJ  
Jay on the Island : 8/3/2022 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15770719 Stu11 said:
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1-year for 5.45M


I know a lot of people are giving Fitz a hard time over not getting Bratt locked up long term, however it takes 2 to tango. Every other young player on the Devils including Jack, Nico and Siegenthaler has had seamless negotiations on long term extensions. Bratt went to war with them 2 years ago and didn't get signed till the pre-season was over, now this. The Devils have said over and over how much they want to lock him up long term. I wonder if his long term demands have been un-realistic. Oh well they have team control over him for another 2 seasons. I wouldn't be shocked if they trade him at some point, even soon.

I have to disagree with you here Stu. I think Fitzgerald deserves all the heat here. There were just rumors that had the Devils offered $6 million a year long term Bratt would have signed. IMO this is a foolish decision by Fitzgerald to determine if Bratt's performance last season was a fluke or not. I am extremely confident that Bratt will perform like that for years and it will end up costing the Devils $7 million or more to lock him up long term now. I don't understand how you can give Palat 6x6 but play hardball with your 24 year old star wing.
Sorry  
Jay on the Island : 8/3/2022 1:06 pm : link
Palat 5x6 not 6x6.
RE: ...  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2022 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15769477 BrettNYG10 said:
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Malkin's birthday cake. Thought this was cool. Twitter - ( New Window )


I saw that and for some reason I thought it was his kid's cake, the fact it was his makes it even more awesome.
RE: RE: RE: Jesper Bratt is back in NJ  
Stu11 : 8/3/2022 1:12 pm : link
In comment 15770893 Jay on the Island said:
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1-year for 5.45M


I know a lot of people are giving Fitz a hard time over not getting Bratt locked up long term, however it takes 2 to tango. Every other young player on the Devils including Jack, Nico and Siegenthaler has had seamless negotiations on long term extensions. Bratt went to war with them 2 years ago and didn't get signed till the pre-season was over, now this. The Devils have said over and over how much they want to lock him up long term. I wonder if his long term demands have been un-realistic. Oh well they have team control over him for another 2 seasons. I wouldn't be shocked if they trade him at some point, even soon.


I have to disagree with you here Stu. I think Fitzgerald deserves all the heat here. There were just rumors that had the Devils offered $6 million a year long term Bratt would have signed. IMO this is a foolish decision by Fitzgerald to determine if Bratt's performance last season was a fluke or not. I am extremely confident that Bratt will perform like that for years and it will end up costing the Devils $7 million or more to lock him up long term now. I don't understand how you can give Palat 6x6 but play hardball with your 24 year old star wing.

Yeah but why is this coming up just with Bratt? He has had no problem with negotiations on LTD's with anyone else? Bratt's agent has no other high profile clients and this is his big pay day and wants every last nickel and I have a feeling he's convinced Bratt of that too. I bet Bratt turned down something like 6 mill/per wanting to bet he could make more in UFA.
Bratt  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2022 1:26 pm : link
is still an RFA after the season, I wonder if there is some free agent next year they prefer spending that money on?

Some big names possibly becoming free agents.

Pasta, MacKinnon, Larkin, a couple more.

maybe none of these guys winds up UFA's so it's a longshot, but I see some wacky stuff with RFAs sometimes.
I just don't understand Fitzgerald  
Jay on the Island : 8/3/2022 1:50 pm : link
He made a great move by signing Siegenthaler long term but he greatly overvalues players like McLeod and Bastian and brought back the most useless player imaginable in Geersten but he's playing hardball with Bratt? I could understand if Bratt was a problem in the locker room but he's the complete opposite. Nobody works harder than Bratt and he wants to be here.
I know Jack Hughes gets most of the attention  
Jay on the Island : 8/3/2022 1:58 pm : link
and deservedly so but for the majority of last season Jesper Bratt was the Devils best all around player. Bratt also elevates the play of his linemates. It's almost as if Fitzgerald thinks that Bratt benefits greatly from playing with Hughes the same way that Sharangocich does.
A lot goes into these  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2022 2:01 pm : link
RFA negotiations and much of it I don't understand.

Maybe Bratt only wanted a bridge deal and NJD wanted to extend him long-term.

Maybe vice versa.

Either way, because he's an RFA again after the season, the Devils control his destiny. Which is not a terrible spot to be in. Worst case? What it costs another million or so for 2023-2024?

RE: A lot goes into these  
Stu11 : 8/3/2022 2:56 pm : link
In comment 15771008 pjcas18 said:
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Maybe Bratt only wanted a bridge deal and NJD wanted to extend him long-term.

Ding ding ding
From what I read this very possibly the case. I'm telling you Jay don't be so quick to blame Fitz here. Why would he suddenly play hardball here while not doing it with anyone else? I think Bratt has it in his head he wanted a 2 year deal and didn't want to give up his shot at UFA.
Holy shit  
Jay on the Island : 8/4/2022 10:53 pm : link
Huberdeau just signed an 8 year extension with Calgary with a $10.5 million AAV
RE: Holy shit  
Stu11 : 8/4/2022 11:10 pm : link
In comment 15772183 Jay on the Island said:
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Huberdeau just signed an 8 year extension with Calgary with a $10.5 million AAV

Yeah saw that. Wow that's $$$$ Ok guess it's a huge tax to get one of these stars to stay in Calgary? If they get Weegar locked up too they did real well in that deal.
Huberdeau was born and raised in Quebec  
Snablats : 8/4/2022 11:37 pm : link
Im sure he is thrilled to be back in Canada and play in a city that actually cares about hockey

That deal is for waaaay too much money. Calgary trying to save face after two American stars wanted out
Devs and Miles Wood avoided arbitration and agreed to 1yr/3.2mill  
Stu11 : 8/5/2022 8:41 am : link
Jay can breath easy now. All joking aside the are now right up against the cap, but with 5 expiring deals in Johnson,Tatar, Wood, Severson and Graves. I would think Johnson with a 4+mill hit has to go to give them some wiggle room.
Actually My bad. Johnson county as 3.4mill  
Stu11 : 8/5/2022 8:51 am : link
And they can create space by putting Bernier on LTIR to start the season
Huberdeau  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2022 9:05 am : link
deal will be interesting.

He is IMO one of the more underrated stars in the league.

Overshadowed by teammates (like Barkov), but he was a calder winner and an all-star in his own right. He is a consistent producer

I think it's a good way for CAL to save face, signing a star long-term and while I don't think he's better than Tkachuk all around, I can see Huberdeau outperforming Gadreau and being the face of the franchise type player.

The only reason i think it's too much is the same reason I think Panarin makes too much - I would only pay centers this high.

The one thing I'll disagree with is being in Canada is one thing, but Huberdeau is from Quebec - it's about as similar to Calgary as it is to Africa. It's not like Huberdeau went "home". He was closer to home in Miami

Huberdeau  
five5 : 8/5/2022 9:24 am : link
I agree he is a bit underrated. Panarin is probably been “elite” offensively for a bit longer. He has to be a better player defensively that Panarin. That being said…contract might be a little pricey.
RE: Huberdeau  
Snablats : 8/5/2022 11:22 am : link
In comment 15772296 pjcas18 said:
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deal will be interesting.

He is IMO one of the more underrated stars in the league.

Overshadowed by teammates (like Barkov), but he was a calder winner and an all-star in his own right. He is a consistent producer

I think it's a good way for CAL to save face, signing a star long-term and while I don't think he's better than Tkachuk all around, I can see Huberdeau outperforming Gadreau and being the face of the franchise type player.

The only reason i think it's too much is the same reason I think Panarin makes too much - I would only pay centers this high.

The one thing I'll disagree with is being in Canada is one thing, but Huberdeau is from Quebec - it's about as similar to Calgary as it is to Africa. It's not like Huberdeau went "home". He was closer to home in Miami

He is back in his home country and playing where hockey matters - clearly he is happy with it since he signed the contract
RE: RE: Huberdeau  
JayBinQueens : 8/5/2022 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15772446 Snablats said:
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deal will be interesting.

He is IMO one of the more underrated stars in the league.

Overshadowed by teammates (like Barkov), but he was a calder winner and an all-star in his own right. He is a consistent producer

I think it's a good way for CAL to save face, signing a star long-term and while I don't think he's better than Tkachuk all around, I can see Huberdeau outperforming Gadreau and being the face of the franchise type player.

The only reason i think it's too much is the same reason I think Panarin makes too much - I would only pay centers this high.

The one thing I'll disagree with is being in Canada is one thing, but Huberdeau is from Quebec - it's about as similar to Calgary as it is to Africa. It's not like Huberdeau went "home". He was closer to home in Miami



He is back in his home country and playing where hockey matters - clearly he is happy with it since he signed the contract


The contract most likely spoke louder than a Canadian city not really close to anything else
RE: RE: RE: Huberdeau  
Snablats : 8/5/2022 1:59 pm : link
In comment 15772530 JayBinQueens said:
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deal will be interesting.

He is IMO one of the more underrated stars in the league.

Overshadowed by teammates (like Barkov), but he was a calder winner and an all-star in his own right. He is a consistent producer

I think it's a good way for CAL to save face, signing a star long-term and while I don't think he's better than Tkachuk all around, I can see Huberdeau outperforming Gadreau and being the face of the franchise type player.

The only reason i think it's too much is the same reason I think Panarin makes too much - I would only pay centers this high.

The one thing I'll disagree with is being in Canada is one thing, but Huberdeau is from Quebec - it's about as similar to Calgary as it is to Africa. It's not like Huberdeau went "home". He was closer to home in Miami



He is back in his home country and playing where hockey matters - clearly he is happy with it since he signed the contract



The contract most likely spoke louder than a Canadian city not really close to anything else

Really? Then why didnt Gaudreau sign and stay there? Why did the Flames know that Tkachuk wasnt going to sign there?
RE: Devs and Miles Wood avoided arbitration and agreed to 1yr/3.2mill  
Jay on the Island : 8/5/2022 9:08 pm : link
In comment 15772284 Stu11 said:
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Jay can breath easy now. All joking aside the are now right up against the cap, but with 5 expiring deals in Johnson,Tatar, Wood, Severson and Graves. I would think Johnson with a 4+mill hit has to go to give them some wiggle room.

It's no secret that I'm not a fan of Wood but I won't complain at that number. I was worried that the Devils were going to give him a 3-4 year deal. Hopefully he stays healthy and the Devils can flip him at the deadline for a mid round pick.
RE: RE: Devs and Miles Wood avoided arbitration and agreed to 1yr/3.2mill  
Stu11 : 8/5/2022 9:22 pm : link
In comment 15772938 Jay on the Island said:
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Jay can breath easy now. All joking aside the are now right up against the cap, but with 5 expiring deals in Johnson,Tatar, Wood, Severson and Graves. I would think Johnson with a 4+mill hit has to go to give them some wiggle room.


It's no secret that I'm not a fan of Wood but I won't complain at that number. I was worried that the Devils were going to give him a 3-4 year deal. Hopefully he stays healthy and the Devils can flip him at the deadline for a mid round pick.

Yeah if the Devils are out of it at the deadline they will have some interesting potential rentals to move in Severson, Graves, Wood, Johnsson, and Tatar.
Pretty elite lineup for Canada  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2022 12:26 pm : link

Mark Masters
@markhmasters
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6m
Lines at Team 🇨🇦 WJC practice

Roy - McTavish - Bedard
Johnson - Stankoven - Foerster
Othmann - Greig - Dufour
Cuylle - Desnoyers - Gaucher
Ostapchuk - Kidney

Sebrango - Zellweger
O'Rourke - Cormier
Seeley - Thompson
Lambos

Garand
Brochu
Cossa

Absent: Del Mastro
Bergy back in Boston  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2022 10:19 am : link
he's on a hated rival but I have grown to appreciate his game over the years, he's a role model player (for my kids)
USA WJC Roster  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2022 10:26 am : link
games begin tomorrow.

USA schedule:
Germany 8/9 10pm
Switzerland 8/11 10pm
Austria 8/13 2pm
Sweden 8/14 10pm

USA should cruise to 3 - 1, if not 4 - 0, but I am unsure of their goalie situation (meaning if they have a Spencer Knight or Dustin Wolf type in net)

Red Savage  
Pete in MD : 8/8/2022 10:54 am : link
has to be one of the best athlete names ever.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Huberdeau  
JayBinQueens : 8/8/2022 5:20 pm : link
In comment 15772556 Snablats said:
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deal will be interesting.

He is IMO one of the more underrated stars in the league.

Overshadowed by teammates (like Barkov), but he was a calder winner and an all-star in his own right. He is a consistent producer

I think it's a good way for CAL to save face, signing a star long-term and while I don't think he's better than Tkachuk all around, I can see Huberdeau outperforming Gadreau and being the face of the franchise type player.

The only reason i think it's too much is the same reason I think Panarin makes too much - I would only pay centers this high.

The one thing I'll disagree with is being in Canada is one thing, but Huberdeau is from Quebec - it's about as similar to Calgary as it is to Africa. It's not like Huberdeau went "home". He was closer to home in Miami



He is back in his home country and playing where hockey matters - clearly he is happy with it since he signed the contract



The contract most likely spoke louder than a Canadian city not really close to anything else


Really? Then why didnt Gaudreau sign and stay there? Why did the Flames know that Tkachuk wasnt going to sign there?

Which one of those 3 is Canadian?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Huberdeau  
JayBinQueens : 8/8/2022 5:23 pm : link
In comment 15775085 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 15772530 JayBinQueens said:


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In comment 15772446 Snablats said:


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deal will be interesting.

He is IMO one of the more underrated stars in the league.

Overshadowed by teammates (like Barkov), but he was a calder winner and an all-star in his own right. He is a consistent producer

I think it's a good way for CAL to save face, signing a star long-term and while I don't think he's better than Tkachuk all around, I can see Huberdeau outperforming Gadreau and being the face of the franchise type player.

The only reason i think it's too much is the same reason I think Panarin makes too much - I would only pay centers this high.

The one thing I'll disagree with is being in Canada is one thing, but Huberdeau is from Quebec - it's about as similar to Calgary as it is to Africa. It's not like Huberdeau went "home". He was closer to home in Miami



He is back in his home country and playing where hockey matters - clearly he is happy with it since he signed the contract



The contract most likely spoke louder than a Canadian city not really close to anything else


Really? Then why didnt Gaudreau sign and stay there? Why did the Flames know that Tkachuk wasnt going to sign there?


Which one of those 3 is Canadian?


Read your post wrong, sorry. I do think it was a combination of things, but him being Canadian combined with the contract is a different situation than JG or MT.
Weegar re-ups in Calgary  
Stu11 : 8/9/2022 1:24 am : link
6/6.75. excellent trade for Calgary, plus they got a first rounder.
RE: Red Savage  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2022 9:29 am : link
In comment 15774597 Pete in MD said:
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has to be one of the best athlete names ever.


He is a good player too.
Reminder  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2022 9:30 am : link
WJC resumes (or restarts) today. Link to the IIHF website below
link - ( New Window )
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BrettNYG10 : 8/9/2022 9:30 am : link
Trouba named captain for NYR.

pj is the happiest Rangers fan about this.
Cool article on Crosby.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/9/2022 9:33 am : link
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I’ve covered Crosby for the past 13 years, and during that time, I’ve been asked countless times if Crosby is “as nice as he seems.”

My typical response: “No. He’s actually much nicer.”

My job presents the privilege of getting to see people behind the scenes when the cameras are off. In those moments, you get to observe who people really are, for better or worse. These moments are when Crosby is at his best. He treats people who are down on their luck better than he shoots a backhand.

So many snapshots of Crosby treating people well are in my mind that I could transform this from an article into a book. A few years back in Minnesota, after a Penguins loss, Crosby was chatting with a child in a wheelchair when I entered the postgame dressing room. Twenty minutes later, when I walked past the same hallway, Crosby was sitting on the floor so he could be closer to eye level with the child, still talking away. I bring this story up because there are hundreds of a similar nature.

This is the guy who goes to Children’s Hospital regularly to visit patients but doesn’t want the notoriety. He’s the person who takes rookies out to dinner so they don’t feel alone in a new city.

The Athletic - ( New Window )
RE: Cool article on Crosby.  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2022 9:40 am : link
In comment 15775492 BrettNYG10 said:
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I’ve covered Crosby for the past 13 years, and during that time, I’ve been asked countless times if Crosby is “as nice as he seems.”

My typical response: “No. He’s actually much nicer.”

My job presents the privilege of getting to see people behind the scenes when the cameras are off. In those moments, you get to observe who people really are, for better or worse. These moments are when Crosby is at his best. He treats people who are down on their luck better than he shoots a backhand.

So many snapshots of Crosby treating people well are in my mind that I could transform this from an article into a book. A few years back in Minnesota, after a Penguins loss, Crosby was chatting with a child in a wheelchair when I entered the postgame dressing room. Twenty minutes later, when I walked past the same hallway, Crosby was sitting on the floor so he could be closer to eye level with the child, still talking away. I bring this story up because there are hundreds of a similar nature.

This is the guy who goes to Children’s Hospital regularly to visit patients but doesn’t want the notoriety. He’s the person who takes rookies out to dinner so they don’t feel alone in a new city.

The Athletic - ( New Window )

thanks for sharing this. I was reading some advanced stats/analytics over the past few weeks and sure Crosby has slipped a little from his prime, but most stats show he's still solidly a top 5 player in the league.

and I'm a root for laundry guy in general for all sports, but Crosby is one of the rare few who crosses over into role model off the ice (though I tread lightly here b/c it violates my own "code").

As a coach, Crosby is my most frequently cited player and video clips shared. Ask any of my kids the average length of a Sidney Crosby shift from the 2010 Olympics. They all know it (and eye roll when I ask/remind them)
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/9/2022 10:47 am : link
I'm old enough (mature enough?) that I don't really have the intensity to hate teams like I used to. I also never really hated the Penguins all that much - Crosby's whining was annoying but that's mostly gone, so I can appreciate how good he is.

I've always thought Crosby was the best but Malkin was more exciting to watch. Crosby is incredibly efficient.

Plus we share a birthday (thanks for forgetting everyone).
huh....my hatred has gotten more intense as I age  
Greg from LI : 8/9/2022 10:48 am : link
YMMV
RE: RE: I think  
Eric on Li : 8/9/2022 12:22 pm : link
In comment 15753299 Eric on Li said:
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Kane is the next big name to move. Hopefully to the Island



i hope but im bracing for a kadri 7x7 or something like that.


looks like i didn't do a month of bracing for nothing.
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