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Maryland Blows : 7/5/2022 11:25 am
The next few days things should start to heat up arounnd the NHL. Teams will be looking to get guys signed or shed salary in order to go after players in FA.

The Rangers need to make moves in order to keep some of their FA's or bring in new players.

The Islanders will look to move Bailey for sure and they have been linked to Forsberg and Gaudreau.

If you see or hear something let us know. Should be an interesting next 2 weeks.

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BrettNYG10 : 8/17/2022 2:13 pm : link
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this game is over  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2022 2:29 pm : link
a parade to the penalty box by Germany and the Fins capitalized. 5 - 2 (two pp goals for Finland) under 2 left to play.

Sweden  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2022 4:42 pm : link
clinging to a 1 goal lead over Latvia after 1.

The bad news is Bruins draft pick Fabian Lysell looks like he's going to be a good player.

Hope we get the Canada vs USA final everyone expects  
Andy in Halifax : 8/17/2022 4:49 pm : link
Clearly the best 2 teams, and those games are always exciting.

Same here Andy  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2022 5:08 pm : link


Latvia ties up Sweden. 1 - 1 after 2.
Latvia  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2022 5:39 pm : link
kills off a 5-min major for hit to the head, maybe they get some momentum.

still tied at 1.

I think if Latvia wins, Canada cake walks to the finals.

They play the Swiss in the QF and then they'd play Latvia in the semis (I believe)

Just as I typed that  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2022 5:42 pm : link
Emil Andrae (PHI) gives Sweden the lead

about halfway through the 3rd, Sweden leads Latvia 2 - 1
Sweden hangs on  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2022 5:57 pm : link
beats Latvia 2-1.
How did  
JayBinQueens : 8/17/2022 6:08 pm : link
Raty look for Findland at noon?
RE: How did  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2022 6:14 pm : link
In comment 15783528 JayBinQueens said:
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Raty look for Findland at noon?


He looked good, that line is awesome that he's on, he was decent on the dots - not as dominant as he had been other games, I don't remember him hitting the scoresheet, but he looked good.
USA better wake up  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2022 11:49 pm : link
After a softie they are down now 3-1 8 left in the 2nd
Wow yeah what a stinker by the US so far  
Stu11 : 8/18/2022 12:15 am : link
Hughes hurt too. Still trying to play, but clearly limited.
Terrible leaky goal  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/18/2022 12:19 am : link
US dmen are sagging way too much for my liking. Challenge the puck carrier.

When did Hughes get hurt? Is this a lingering injury?

EJ Hradek is a nice guy, wtf is he doing trying PbP commentating 25 years into a talking head career?
Berard 5 min match penalty for slew footing  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/18/2022 12:29 am : link
Wtf, self destruction
US has come undone  
Stu11 : 8/18/2022 12:29 am : link
Berrard takes a match penalty for slew footing
Cooley has been getting smoked  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/18/2022 12:42 am : link
Draws a 5 min major

This is the game
En goal seals it  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/18/2022 1:02 am : link
Pissed away the talent advantage with low % plays and unforced mishandles.

Czechs won the wall and were more physical. They deserved it.
Shit, that sucks for the Americans.  
Andy in Halifax : 8/18/2022 7:02 am : link
I really wanted to see Canada vs US in the final. They are the best two teams. Single game eliminations can be tough, especially if a weak goal or two occurs. Still, US hockey is kicking serious ass right now, love what they are doing.
The Czechs  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 7:58 am : link
lost to Latvia and then beat the US.

the gap isn't as wide as some think - especially when you get really good or really questionable goalie play.

but the US, despite the soft goal was outworked this whole game. The Czechs played like it was a game that mattered and the US played like they just needed to show up and they'd win.

this is on coaching as much as anything.

Also, I'm unclear how the US made the decision to cut Lane Hutson. Other than Hughes there was no offensive creation from the point.

Hutson may be too small to thrive in the NHL (not sure) but he is perfect for tournaments like this.
Agree about Hutson  
Andy in Halifax : 8/18/2022 8:40 am : link
I think they assumed they'd get enough offense and not need him. Canada has done that in the past (and it cost them). He should have been there, a no brainer imo.
plot twist! Kadri to the flames (+monahan supposedly getting traded)  
Eric on Li : 8/18/2022 12:41 pm : link
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Hearing Nazem Kadri will be a Calgary Flame


depending on the $ i think this may be a bullet dodged for nyi.
RE: plot twist! Kadri to the flames (+monahan supposedly getting traded)  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/18/2022 12:44 pm : link
In comment 15784295 Eric on Li said:
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Hearing Nazem Kadri will be a Calgary Flame



depending on the $ i think this may be a bullet dodged for nyi.
. Agreed. Kadri is a good player, but his style for 7 years at age 32 was always a yikes.
...  
BrettNYG10 : 8/18/2022 12:51 pm : link
Jack Eichel pregame routine.

Only difference between his and mine is I listen to three songs when taping my stick.
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pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 1:03 pm : link
Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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7m
Not saying it’s def happening, but if Sean Monahan is moving from Flames, there’s a distinct possibility it’s to Montreal. Some buzz on this came my way a few weeks ago. We’ll see what happens, but CGY appears to be working on something re Monahan/Kadri as @KevinWeekes
suggested
I think the Isles avoided a potentially bad deal  
Anakim : 8/18/2022 1:12 pm : link
Kadri’s a nice 2C who plays with snarl and intensity, but he’s not worth a 7-year deal at 7M per.
7x7  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 1:16 pm : link
for Kadri isn't bad for the first 4 years.

And then how bad it is for the last 3 will depend on how much the cap opens up and how healthy he is.

But that's a contract for a "win now" team who is willing to have a bad contract/buyout in exchange for a 2C kind of below market or at worst at market for the next few years.
RE: 7x7  
Anakim : 8/18/2022 1:28 pm : link
In comment 15784340 pjcas18 said:
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for Kadri isn't bad for the first 4 years.

And then how bad it is for the last 3 will depend on how much the cap opens up and how healthy he is.

But that's a contract for a "win now" team who is willing to have a bad contract/buyout in exchange for a 2C kind of below market or at worst at market for the next few years.


So he got like a million more per than Trocheck did and Kadri is the better player (albeit a bit older)
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Anakim : 8/18/2022 1:28 pm : link
In comment 15784322 pjcas18 said:
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Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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7m
Not saying it’s def happening, but if Sean Monahan is moving from Flames, there’s a distinct possibility it’s to Montreal. Some buzz on this came my way a few weeks ago. We’ll see what happens, but CGY appears to be working on something re Monahan/Kadri as @KevinWeekes
suggested


Aren't the Canadiens pressed against the cap? How could they afford Monahan? Seems like Chicago or Arizona make more sense (does Manahan have a NTC?)
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pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15784356 Anakim said:
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In comment 15784322 pjcas18 said:


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Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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7m
Not saying it’s def happening, but if Sean Monahan is moving from Flames, there’s a distinct possibility it’s to Montreal. Some buzz on this came my way a few weeks ago. We’ll see what happens, but CGY appears to be working on something re Monahan/Kadri as @KevinWeekes
suggested



Aren't the Canadiens pressed against the cap? How could they afford Monahan? Seems like Chicago or Arizona make more sense (does Manahan have a NTC?)


M-NTC (10 team), cap space is fungible to an extent, but yes the Habs have no space.

Monahan is a UFA after the season.

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Anakim : 8/18/2022 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15784369 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15784356 Anakim said:


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In comment 15784322 pjcas18 said:


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Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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7m
Not saying it’s def happening, but if Sean Monahan is moving from Flames, there’s a distinct possibility it’s to Montreal. Some buzz on this came my way a few weeks ago. We’ll see what happens, but CGY appears to be working on something re Monahan/Kadri as @KevinWeekes
suggested



Aren't the Canadiens pressed against the cap? How could they afford Monahan? Seems like Chicago or Arizona make more sense (does Manahan have a NTC?)



M-NTC (10 team), cap space is fungible to an extent, but yes the Habs have no space.

Monahan is a UFA after the season.


So who are they getting rid of to make room for Monahan? I don't think they can put Carey Price on LTIR right now, can they? Do they trade Dvorak already?
RE: RE: 7x7  
Snablats : 8/18/2022 1:44 pm : link
In comment 15784355 Anakim said:
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In comment 15784340 pjcas18 said:


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for Kadri isn't bad for the first 4 years.

And then how bad it is for the last 3 will depend on how much the cap opens up and how healthy he is.

But that's a contract for a "win now" team who is willing to have a bad contract/buyout in exchange for a 2C kind of below market or at worst at market for the next few years.



So he got like a million more per than Trocheck did and Kadri is the better player (albeit a bit older)

A "bit" older? 3 years is a lot when talking about being 32 vs 29. And it was 1.375M less per year. Kadri's deal will look bad in two or three years when he is 34/35
not sure I'd say Kadri is the better player  
Greg from LI : 8/18/2022 1:50 pm : link
that statement seems to be 100%based on the 2021-22 season, in which he had a career year to an extreme level. 26 more points than any previous season in only 71 games. Don't see him coming close to repeating that.
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pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 2:21 pm : link
In comment 15784309 BrettNYG10 said:
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Jack Eichel pregame routine.

Only difference between his and mine is I listen to three songs when taping my stick. Twitter - ( New Window )


LOL, how many times does he tape his stick? and I'm surprised he doesn't have people to do that for him. I always felt like if I ever made it to the NHL that was one of the biggest perks - people would tape my stick for me.

I started cold showering before games in high school. I read in a fitness magazine that it helps loosen the muscles and get the heart rate up. My coach thought I was insane but by the end of my Jr year half the team did it.
I wanna say I've seen lots of clips of NHL players taping their sticks  
Greg from LI : 8/18/2022 2:27 pm : link
Maybe some guys are very particular about the way it's done?
Yeah some people  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 2:35 pm : link
definitely care and are very particular. I have teammates even in men's league who tape their stick every game and use a scissors and tape the end of their blade - which became a thing a few years ago. around the time white tape on the blade became popular. I grew up with black friction tape and only black friction tape on the blade.

I never really cared. I was the guy whose tape/stick blade looked like my stick was pulled out of a wood chipper.

And no matter how great my tape job was before the game, after one shift it was mangled again.

Monahan and a 1st to MTL?  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 2:36 pm : link
no idea who is going the other way.

Hope not Suzuki.

Carey Price plus?
.  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 2:37 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Sean Monahan is going to MON to make room for Kadri
1:17 PM · Aug 18, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
Sound like nothing going back  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 2:45 pm : link
to CAL, I didn't realize how bad the injuries effected Monahan's career. I guess maybe the Habs LTIR him.

Blain Potvin
@BlainPotvin_THW
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1h
#Isles may be on market for a center now....#Habs could have Dvorak avail.
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BrettNYG10 : 8/18/2022 2:46 pm : link
In comment 15784405 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15784309 BrettNYG10 said:


Quote:


Jack Eichel pregame routine.

Only difference between his and mine is I listen to three songs when taping my stick. Twitter - ( New Window )



LOL, how many times does he tape his stick? and I'm surprised he doesn't have people to do that for him. I always felt like if I ever made it to the NHL that was one of the biggest perks - people would tape my stick for me.

I started cold showering before games in high school. I read in a fitness magazine that it helps loosen the muscles and get the heart rate up. My coach thought I was insane but by the end of my Jr year half the team did it.


Yeah, I don't care as long as it's taped, lol. I do want black tape, though.
RE: Sound like nothing going back  
Maryland Blows : 8/18/2022 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15784432 pjcas18 said:
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to CAL, I didn't realize how bad the injuries effected Monahan's career. I guess maybe the Habs LTIR him.

Blain Potvin
@BlainPotvin_THW
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1h
#Isles may be on market for a center now....#Habs could have Dvorak avail.



The Islanders do not needa C. They Barzal, Nelson, Pageau and Casey. If the Islanders had signed him one of those were not going to be playing C next year. The Islanders need a legit scoring winger plain and simple.
RE: RE: Sound like nothing going back  
KDubbs : 8/18/2022 2:55 pm : link
In comment 15784442 Maryland Blows said:
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In comment 15784432 pjcas18 said:


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to CAL, I didn't realize how bad the injuries effected Monahan's career. I guess maybe the Habs LTIR him.

Blain Potvin
@BlainPotvin_THW
·
1h
#Isles may be on market for a center now....#Habs could have Dvorak avail.




The Islanders do not needa C. They Barzal, Nelson, Pageau and Casey. If the Islanders had signed him one of those were not going to be playing C next year. The Islanders need a legit scoring winger plain and simple.


for like the past 20 yrs. but at least old man Lou has brought the clean shaven dress professional brand to the isles. 🙄
So why all the Kadri  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 3:09 pm : link
smoke to NYI if they had no interest in a C?
RE: So why all the Kadri  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/18/2022 3:10 pm : link
In comment 15784463 pjcas18 said:
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smoke to NYI if they had no interest in a C?


Moving Nelson or Barzy to the wing
RE: So why all the Kadri  
JayBinQueens : 8/18/2022 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15784463 pjcas18 said:
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smoke to NYI if they had no interest in a C?


I think a lot of it is Lou is tight lipped, does late signings and Kadri was still around. People just put those things together and ran with it
RE: RE: So why all the Kadri  
Maryland Blows : 8/18/2022 4:09 pm : link
In comment 15784465 Diversify yo bonds said:
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In comment 15784463 pjcas18 said:


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smoke to NYI if they had no interest in a C?



Moving Nelson or Barzy to the wing


Or this. Just because they had 4 if you get a better one you move the 4th to another spot. It is not like they have to have another. If you can upgradea position you do it. That being said I hope they focus on someone who puts the puck into the net and extending Dobson.
RE: So why all the Kadri  
Eric on Li : 8/18/2022 4:13 pm : link
In comment 15784463 pjcas18 said:
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smoke to NYI if they had no interest in a C?


Lou supposedly loved Kadri as a Leaf and it seems like they definitely did have a comparable offer out there for him in some stage (whether it was just a discussion or an actually offer he chose not to take who knows).

in the end the isles are again a bridesmaid, but im a lot less broken up about this one than Panarin or Gaudreau. Those were the real misses (especially Gaudreau since they probably could have stretched to match CBJ's offer).
I do think Christian Dvorak  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 4:18 pm : link
is a good option at C for a team who needs a 2C/3C - he is versatile enough IMO to be either (good defensively, good on the dots, can score) at a fair salary ($4.45M for the next three seasons).


the most awkward part of the kadri fit was C unless they planned  
Eric on Li : 8/18/2022 4:49 pm : link
to move Barzal to wing. Nelson, JGP, Czikas are very strong defensive centers, all good in the dot. Barzal on the other hand often has 1 of his wingers take faceoffs.

that's why JT Miller seemed like a very logical fit when that rumor surfaced at the draft since he can kind of play a little bit of both next to Barzal.

the isles main need is finding a winger who fits with barzal as good as eberle did. that was the big loss last year. Palmieri, Parise, Wahlstrom, all tried but didn't work out. Had they signed Kadri the big question would have been how they envisioned his role, with barzal or not? who played center? Gaudreau was a much more natural answer to that question (as would be Kane, i'd give up next year's 1st++ without thinking twice for him). Or maybe they revisit miller.
I like Tkachuk a lot - top 10 player in the game IMO  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2022 4:58 pm : link
and Gaudreau, but I feel like Calgary got better by adding Huberdeau and Kadri (a C)- mostly based on the value I put on the C position.

It's certainly debatable. But going back a few weeks ago to when Gaudreau left in FA and Tkachuk requested a trade and thinking they'd have to blow it up to now, it's a massive recovery by Treliving IMO.
RE: I like Tkachuk a lot - top 10 player in the game IMO  
Eric on Li : 8/18/2022 5:06 pm : link
In comment 15784553 pjcas18 said:
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and Gaudreau, but I feel like Calgary got better by adding Huberdeau and Kadri (a C)- mostly based on the value I put on the C position.

It's certainly debatable. But going back a few weeks ago to when Gaudreau left in FA and Tkachuk requested a trade and thinking they'd have to blow it up to now, it's a massive recovery by Treliving IMO.


100% agree. I look at 'dreaus as cancelling each other out. I'd actually possibly take Huberdeau's game as the better bet to age well but there's nothing tangible behind that other than him having been the more consistent player year to year.

Tkachuk has a big age gap on Kadri, but they got more position value, weegar, and a future first to help cover that value disparity.

about as you can expect to do when your friends abandon you in a dark alley as you're getting held up at gunpoint.
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