The next few days things should start to heat up arounnd the NHL. Teams will be looking to get guys signed or shed salary in order to go after players in FA.
The Rangers need to make moves in order to keep some of their FA's or bring in new players.
The Islanders will look to move Bailey for sure and they have been linked to Forsberg and Gaudreau.
If you see or hear something let us know. Should be an interesting next 2 weeks.
@RealKyper
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Hearing @NHLFlames
still finalizing what year the 1st round compensation pick is heading to @CanadiensMTL
for Monahan. He’s expected to start with the Habs with the likelihood of being dealt at the deadline if his play warrants it. #RealKyperandBourne @FAN590
@RealKyper
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Hearing @NHLFlames
still finalizing what year the 1st round compensation pick is heading to @CanadiensMTL
for Monahan. He’s expected to start with the Habs with the likelihood of being dealt at the deadline if his play warrants it. #RealKyperandBourne @FAN590
Brennan Klak
@nhlupdate
#Flames trade Sean Monahan and a conditional 2025 1st round pick to #Habs for future considerations.
that price to dump salary is pretty insane for a single year that may more may not be partially offset by IR.
1. In the event Calgary's own 2024 first (1st) round choice is selection 20-32 (inclusive) (following the determination of the 2024 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall have the option, exercisable until 48 hours prior to the start of the 2024 NHL draft, to exchange the conditional 2025 or 2026 first round choice to become Calgary's own 2024 first (1st) round choice); or,
If Florida's 2025 First (1st) Round Choice Transfers to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)
2. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal's option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:
A) If both Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Florida's 2025 first (1st) round choice (previously acquired by Calgary) are not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall receive the earlier of the two (2) stated choices; or,
B) If Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection and Florida's 2025 first round selection (previously acquired by Calgary) is outside of the top-10 selections (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Florida's 2025 first (1st) round choice).
If Florida's 2025 First Round Choice DOES NOT Transfer to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)
3. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal's option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:
A. If Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice, and additionally,
1) If Florida's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results); and,
2) Florida's 2025 first (1st) round choice has been transferred to another NHL Club; and,
3) Florida's 2025 first round draft position is better than Calgary's 2025 first round draft position; then Calgary will transfer their own 2025 fourth round choice to Montreal.
B. If Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary's 2025 first (1st) round choice, subject to the following condition below:
1) In the event Calgary's 2025 first (1st) round choice is the first (1st) selection overall in the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Calgary will retain its own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Montreal shall instead receive Calgary's own 2025 third (3rd) round choice and a conditional 2026 first (1st) round choice. Montreal shall receive the better of Calgary's 2026 first (1st) round choice or Florida's 2026 first (1st) round choice (following the determination of the 2026 NHL Draft lottery results) (previously conditionally acquired by Calgary).
As I read it, as long as Calgary makes the playoffs in 2023-2024 and isn't a WC team then MTL gets Calgary's 2024 1st round pick (if they want it).
If they don't make the playoffs in 2023-2024 then a lot of things could happen.
As I read it, as long as Calgary makes the playoffs in 2023-2024 and isn't a WC team then MTL gets Calgary's 2024 1st round pick (if they want it).
If they don't make the playoffs in 2023-2024 then a lot of things could happen.
This is how I picture the negotiations going - ( New Window )
Renaud Lavoie
@renlavoietva
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Carey Price will go on the LTIR and probably won’t play next season. He told the media at the end of the season that it was possible that he played his last game. That’s why Sean Monahan’s contract fits under the @CanadiensMTL
cap.
Sad way to go for one of the best
NHL Network
@NHLNetwork
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The Islanders just couldn't create the cap space needed to sign Nazem Kadri, likely because of their RFA signings.
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knee is not getting better and has possibly degenerated to an arthritic condition that may never get better.
Sad way to go for one of the best
Completely agree. NHL is the only level he hasn't won.
I hope his career isn't over, but if it is, 1st ballot HOFer and the most positionally sound, calm, poised, elite, goalie of the past era. Not even sure who his peer is? Lundqvist? The Hasek/Roy/Brodeur era ended and not sure who leads the next one. I guess Carey and Henrik - maybe two of the best goalies to never win a cup (the dubious distinction no one wants).
I was watching one game, I forget which - maybe have been the 2014 Olympics, the talking head said "if Carey Price sees the puck he's going to save it. If he doesn't see it, he's still probably going to save it" - that is how fundamentally sound he is in net. In those Olympics, Price had a 0.6 GAA and a 97% save percentage (over 5 games). And maybe in a fitting display for the era Price outdueled Hank to lead Canada to gold over Sweden.
Price
Lundqvist
MAF
and MAF has three rings and a Vezina.
NHL Network
@NHLNetwork
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The Islanders just couldn't create the cap space needed to sign Nazem Kadri, likely because of their RFA signings.
i buy this given what it cost CAL to dump 1 year of monahan. have to think 2 years of bailey would have cost even more if there was no salary coming back.
also have to think there wouldn't have been much of a return for beauvillier even though he has 2 very reasonable years on his deal. that would have been a toews trade all over again.
varlamov is probably movable but they dont seem to want to do that, and in the numbers game since they already have 12 Fs they would have had to move a F somehow. to fit Gaudreau i'd have been a lot more willing to dump others off than Kadri because I think in Gaudreau's case just by simple math you are getting 3 extra prime aged years for the same length deal.
2023 draft is "supposed to be" historic.
And with their D core and goalie even if the forwards do well MTL should be epically bad. With OTT and BUF improving it's MTL and ARI battling for worst team.
Yes.
Price's MVP season was sensational, one of the best goalie seasons ever. Lundqvist never had a season like that, but he was a machine. His durability and consistency led to a very long period of consistently excellent play. Price's career was more of a roller coaster, in no small part due to injuries. They played the same number of seasons but Hank played in about 150 more games. He was in the top five of the Vezina voting seven times, Price was three times.
In any given season there was a goalie or two having a bit better year than Lundqvist, but those guys rose and fell. Hank did it every year, year in and out, for over a decade.
Max Pacioretty? Brendan Gallagher? 35 year old Kovalev?
Other than Shea Weber name a good Habs defenseman in his career? PK Subban? Jeff Petry?
any way, it's an opinion question, so I won't argue with anyone who ranks those three goalies in any order, my opinion is my opinion.
34.1 - just this year. I believe they track it more structured now.
2023 draft is "supposed to be" historic.
And with their D core and goalie even if the forwards do well MTL should be epically bad. With OTT and BUF improving it's MTL and ARI battling for worst team.
Pj…I’m surprised to see you so negative on your boys. I know you are rebuilding, but you still have some decent players, especially forwards.
Suzuki, Caufield, Anderson, Gallagher should be much better this coming year, Evans, Dach, Monohan when he is healthy, Dadanov, maybe Drouin if he can stay healthy, Hoffman is decent, Dvorak, unless he is traded…..and others. Maybe even your #1 draft choice, Slafkowsky comes up sometime this season.
You still have Edmundson, Matheson, Savard and a bevy of top prospects to play defense. (Barrón and Harris to name two.)
Your two goalies not named Price are pretty solid too. That Montembeault kid played better as the season wore on last year.
I don’t see your guys are being that bad. Your boys played especially inspired hockey when you changed coaches to MSL. You have to factor him in this too.
when your goalie has almost a 4.0 GAA it's hard to find nice things to say about them.
I like Jake Allen more than most people, but he's most valuable as a backup IMO. He gets exposed as a starter when he starts too often.
I don't even think I'm being negative. I'm fine with where the Habs are today. You don't replace a Price and Weber (plus) with the wave of a magic wand, I just hope they're patient because as bad as NY or BOS or TOR are, I'm not sure anywhere is as bad as MTL for impatience.
The only move I really question is trading Lehkonen. I like Barron in the return, but look what Lehkonen did post-trade playing PP1 and top 6 min. MTL never have him that opportunity and it took a trade to the SC winner for people to realize how good he could be.
I 100% support trading the veterans, but Lehky was an RFA even though he is 27. Some players take a little white to have the light go on and 5 years $22M like he got in COL is a steal IMO.
Max Pacioretty? Brendan Gallagher? 35 year old Kovalev?
Other than Shea Weber name a good Habs defenseman in his career? PK Subban? Jeff Petry?
any way, it's an opinion question, so I won't argue with anyone who ranks those three goalies in any order, my opinion is my opinion.
Can't go wrong with either - I forget how good Tukka Rask was sometimes. They went from Tim Thomas->Rask. So lucky (so are the Rangers).
I think Lundqvist's defenses were overrated for much of his career but Price had it much worse.
I think the stat only goes back about 15 years, and it's not exact, but I'd guess it's a pretty good indicator.
Thomas only had one other season remotely close to that season. and he didn't debut in the NHL until he was 28 and had his best season at 36.
Goalies are weird. no offense CHP.
People are debating Lundqvist vs. Price on Twitter and have been really heated, of course. I see both sides of the debate so it's hard for me to get riled up one way or the other.
I think both teams did a disservice to their goaltenders and should have been able to win Cups. However, I'd add that I think the value of an elite goaltender has declined vs. the early 90s as the average goaltender has gotten so good.
Some NYI news (legit this time)
PuckPedia
@PuckPedia
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The #isles re-signed 22 y/o RD Noah Dobson to 3 year $4M Cap Hit deal per @FriedgeHNIC
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Will be RFA on expiry & 2 years from UFA eligibility
51P in 80 GP
Rep'd by Andrew Maloney @maloneythompson
@HockeyAgent1
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Alexander Romanov signs 3 year contract extension with the New York Islanders. #WeAreGoldStar!
2.5M AAV
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
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Keiffer Bellows - #NYI
$1.2M x 1 year
All base salary. He will be an arbitration-eligible RFA at the expiry of the contract.
they now have a full roster signed now with around 3-4m in cap room so they probably have something of a league-wide standing offer of their first plus a roster F (beauvillier or bailey) for a 7m+ impact rental winger like kane or jt miller or meier.
they now have a full roster signed now with around 3-4m in cap room so they probably have something of a league-wide standing offer of their first plus a roster F (beauvillier or bailey) for a 7m+ impact rental winger like kane or jt miller or meier.
And the players probably don't hate it either.
If you're Dobson, for example, you get $12M guaranteed for the next 3 years, at that time your career earnings are around $17M. So sure, you're still an RFA when this contract is done but if managed wisely you're basically set for life financially, and then can decide if you want a bridge (if you don't want to commit to the team long-term) or long-term at that time - when you have more leverage which = more money.
Same with Romanov to a slightly lesser extent.
I think Bellows still needs to prove he's a NHLer who deserves a regular shift, but Dobson and Romanov are top 4 D.
the other thing that's positive about the romanov and dobson deals is that they expire at 25 years old. so if you decided to max out either of them with 8 years, those next deals will basically cover almost all prime years, likely at a rate under whatever their open market rate is (since they will be RFAs).
i hate lou's secrecy and it would be great to not always be the bridesmaid on top FA's but he knows how to manage a roster. for the love of god just find barzal a winger.
I think the stat only goes back about 15 years, and it's not exact, but I'd guess it's a pretty good indicator.
Thomas only had one other season remotely close to that season. and he didn't debut in the NHL until he was 28 and had his best season at 36.
Goalies are weird. no offense CHP.
People sorta forget - the season before 2010/2011 Thomas was essentially replaced late in the season by a young Rask - Thomas appeared to be on the decline.
The B's then blew that series to the Flyers, but Rask was the unquestioned starter the next year in 2010/2011 but really struggled in the first quarter of the season and Thomas got back in there and never gave it back, playing outstanding.
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Carey Price played with one 80 point player in his entire career. That was Kovalev in Price’s rookie year
People are debating Lundqvist vs. Price on Twitter and have been really heated, of course. I see both sides of the debate so it's hard for me to get riled up one way or the other.
I think both teams did a disservice to their goaltenders and should have been able to win Cups. However, I'd add that I think the value of an elite goaltender has declined vs. the early 90s as the average goaltender has gotten so good.
Lundqvist was a HOF goaltender but Price was better IMO.
Yep, they had a 3-0 Game 7 lead, but gave up a late goal at the end of the 1st period to make it 3-1, and you just had a bad vibe about it...
But Rask wasn't blamed for the collapse - and went into the following season as the #1 but really struggled and Thomas just played lights out given the chance to be #1 again.
Thomas was essentially the #1 the two years prior and of course was the #1 the year following the Cup before he retired I believe.
Dach (MTL)
Oettinger (DAL)
Zadina (DET)
Brannstrom (OTT)
Formenton (OTT)
22 or so remaining.
Robertson the biggest name, but quite a few important players. DAL, OTT, DET all have space, MTL doesn't until/if they put Price on LTIR. Making Dach (and Cayden Primeau) ripe for offer sheet if a team still wants to go that way.
Brennan Klak
@nhlupdate
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#Canes sign Paul Stastny to a one-year deal at 1.5M
Twitter - ( New Window )
Brennan Klak
@nhlupdate
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#Canes sign Paul Stastny to a one-year deal at 1.5M
Great signing. I think the Rangers should have signed Stastny to a deal like that rather than giving Trocheck so much money and term.
Rangers are on the cusp of something great imo, maybe just missing one piece but I don't think PS is that piece.
I'd get that gun checked. NHL record is 108.8.
Shea Weber fastest time (as far as I know) is 108.5, Chara is 108.8 - and that is the NHL record. Iafrate was around 105
Not saying Kakko doesn't have a shot that hard, but I never thought of him like I do Weber, Chara, Iafrate, etc.
Trocheck is top 6 player.
Both were in play for NYR IMO.
Rangers are on the cusp of something great imo, maybe just missing one piece but I don't think PS is that piece.
My thinking is more that the Rangers have a 3-4 year window and should reserve some cap space to add a piece next year or the year after (or to try and extend Miller on a cheaper deal for a longer time period when his deal is up).
Trocheck and Stastny had the same P/60 last year. I think they are closer players than people think.
I would have put Chytil at 2C and Stastny at 3C and then traded for someone at the deadline if Chytil bombed.
Some times players need to be pushed.
I think pushing Miller proved to be valuable to his development.
@PuckReportNHL
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Phil Kessel 1x$1.5M with Vegas
I bet most people, if they didn't know already, would not guess Phil Kessel will be the NHL iron man if you gave them 25 guesses.