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Maryland Blows : 7/5/2022 11:25 am
The next few days things should start to heat up arounnd the NHL. Teams will be looking to get guys signed or shed salary in order to go after players in FA.

The Rangers need to make moves in order to keep some of their FA's or bring in new players.

The Islanders will look to move Bailey for sure and they have been linked to Forsberg and Gaudreau.

If you see or hear something let us know. Should be an interesting next 2 weeks.

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RE: RE: RE: Fleury back to Minny  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15748650 Stu11 said:
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1 year deal



lying season?

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 2m
Fleury is not signing a 1 year deal with any team. No agreement with the Wild.


Ha ha sorry guys Kevin Weeks usually has good info. I just saw Dreger and others refuting it. Was coming back here to post it.


Weekes is awesome, I saw he deleted a tweet, was it that one? of course I have a shitload of work meetings today so can't stay on top of stuff.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Fleury back to Minny  
Stu11 : 7/7/2022 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15748696 pjcas18 said:
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1 year deal



lying season?

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 2m
Fleury is not signing a 1 year deal with any team. No agreement with the Wild.


Ha ha sorry guys Kevin Weeks usually has good info. I just saw Dreger and others refuting it. Was coming back here to post it.



Weekes is awesome, I saw he deleted a tweet, was it that one? of course I have a shitload of work meetings today so can't stay on top of stuff.

Yeah he wrote another tweet apologizing for the mis-info
RE: Wow  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 12:46 pm : link
In comment 15748672 Jay on the Island said:
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The Devils are considering signing Jake Oettinger to an offer sheet.


Likely cost is a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick (based on all the offer sheet $$$ I've seen thrown around which are between $6.3 and 8.4M AAV) - which may be worth it.

he was unreal in the playoffs.

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pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 12:48 pm : link
Taylor Haase
@TaylorHaasePGH
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8m
Penguins sign Kris Letang to a six-year deal, $36.6 million contract extension.

That's a $6.1 million AAV. Definitely seems as if the Penguins offered more term in order to keep the cap hit low.
More Pens from Taylor  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 12:50 pm : link
Taylor Haase
@TaylorHaasePGH
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2m
Replying to
@TaylorHaasePGH
After the Letang contract the Penguins now have $15.3 million in projected cap space with 2 goalies, 7 defensemen, 9 forwards signed/expected to be on NHL roster.

Can definitely sign Malkin + 2 other forwards with 15 million. Letang taking term over $$ is great for the Penguins.
Matt Murray nixes trade to BUF  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 12:51 pm : link
I know I say this every year, but BUF has some talent.


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
1h
Hearing OTT & BUF were deep into conversations about a Matt Murray trade. Sabres are on his No-trade list, and Murray — as his his contractual right — stuck to his list.
Rangers trade  
Burt64 : 7/7/2022 12:53 pm : link
The Avalanche have acquired Alexandar Georgiev from the Rangers. New York gets Colorado's 2022 3rd and 5th round picks and their 2023 3rd round pick for the goalie.
Good return on Georgiev IMO  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 12:58 pm : link


Andy Strickland
@andystrickland
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1h
Told the Calgary Flames have zero plans of trading Matthew Tkachuk at the draft or this summer. The #Flames remain completely focused on trying to get Tkachuk signed.
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Kyle in NY : 7/7/2022 1:00 pm : link
Rangers didn't have much leverage with the deadline for extending a qualifying offer to Georgiev upcoming. Thought they might have to lose him for nothing. Good job by Drury
The Avs  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 1:02 pm : link
have only a 6th and 7th round picks in this draft, lol.

but I guess you win a cup who cares about picks.
Wow does this mean Colorado is not re-signing Kuemper?  
Jay on the Island : 7/7/2022 1:08 pm : link
Good return for the Rangers. Georgiev is not a starting caliber goaltender.
RE: Wow does this mean Colorado is not re-signing Kuemper?  
Greg from LI : 7/7/2022 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15748737 Jay on the Island said:
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Good return for the Rangers. Georgiev is not a starting caliber goaltender.


Georgiev is an odd case. When he gets regular starts, he looks great. When he only plays sporadically as a backup, he stinks.
RE: Wow does this mean Colorado is not re-signing Kuemper?  
Stu11 : 7/7/2022 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15748737 Jay on the Island said:
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Good return for the Rangers. Georgiev is not a starting caliber goaltender.


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Darcy Kuemper expected to hit the market with Georgiev trade to COL
1:00 PM · Jul 7, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
Avs  
five5 : 7/7/2022 1:10 pm : link
Won the Cup w/Kuemper. They can certainly win one with Georgiev. Nice return for NYR.
Dreger says they didn't have the cap space to keep Kemper  
Stu11 : 7/7/2022 1:12 pm : link
sports is cold man. You win the cup one week, next week you're out
That is a good result for Georgiev  
ColHowPepper : 7/7/2022 1:12 pm : link
And he gets a clean slate with a fairly good team...(: If he can get his head straight--and he should, it's not as if he has an Igor above him on depth chart--better op to see what he's really got.
Is it a  
five5 : 7/7/2022 1:17 pm : link
3rd or 5th round pick in 2023?
RE: Is it a  
KevinBBWC : 7/7/2022 1:18 pm : link
In comment 15748754 five5 said:
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3rd or 5th round pick in 2023?


3rd
Kev  
five5 : 7/7/2022 1:20 pm : link
Thank you. I was seeing both.
Good trade for both Rangers and Georgiev  
Rick in Dallas : 7/7/2022 1:31 pm : link
Well done by Drury
I will say this  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 1:35 pm : link
I thought Kuemper was the Achilles heel and ultimately would be why COL wouldn't win a cup.

but i needed to eat some crow on that, he looked pretty damned good in the finals. Maybe playing against McDavid/Draisaitl you're going to give up some goals.

He's maybe the top 1 or 2 free agent goalie now.
Later, Alex  
Anakim : 7/7/2022 1:59 pm : link
The kid has talent, but I don't think he has it between the ears. He's too shaky.
RE: Later, Alex  
John In CO : 7/7/2022 2:12 pm : link
In comment 15748785 Anakim said:
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The kid has talent, but I don't think he has it between the ears. He's too shaky.


Well, that answers the question that me and every other Avs fan has at the moment:). Not good. Seems like a lot for the Avs to give up, but really, who am I or any Avs fan to question Joe Sakic right now? Maybe they figure they can work with him. I am not a Kuemper hater like many. He had a rough playoffs (maybe "rough" is not the right word to use since he did win a Cup) but I think that eye injury he sustained in the Nashville series affected him more than he let on.

And on a positive note, I have no reason whatsover to watch this draft either today or tomorrow! I think we are about out of picks:).
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pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 2:29 pm : link
Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
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42m
The Blackhawks are still actively trying to trade Alex DeBrincat to get into the first round tonight. At this point, the sense I get is it'd be a bigger surprise if they *didn't* trade him than if they did.
RE: .  
Anakim : 7/7/2022 2:30 pm : link
In comment 15748812 pjcas18 said:
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Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
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42m
The Blackhawks are still actively trying to trade Alex DeBrincat to get into the first round tonight. At this point, the sense I get is it'd be a bigger surprise if they *didn't* trade him than if they did.


Kirby Dach trade rumors also heating up and you have to think Kane is going to be traded soon too. Blackhawks are stripping it all down.
I don't get the Dach  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 2:33 pm : link
rumors.

He's a 21 year old RFA who has suffered some injuries.

what reason do you trade him? and what do they expect for him? He was brutal last year in almost every measurable way.
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pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 2:59 pm : link
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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#Blackhawks are listening to offers on Kirby Dach, per @ByScottPowers
. The “sense” is it would require a Top-15 pick to make them really consider it.

Per @johndietzdh
- the Red Wings and Blue Jackets are in play here. #LGRW #CBJ
take the 13th pick!!!! please!!!!  
Eric on Li : 7/7/2022 3:06 pm : link
In comment 15748812 pjcas18 said:
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Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
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42m
The Blackhawks are still actively trying to trade Alex DeBrincat to get into the first round tonight. At this point, the sense I get is it'd be a bigger surprise if they *didn't* trade him than if they did.
The Hawks are trying to trade those 2 guys for picks,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/7/2022 4:04 pm : link
but aren’t trading Toews or Kane???
RE: The Hawks are trying to trade those 2 guys for picks,  
Anakim : 7/7/2022 4:06 pm : link
In comment 15748878 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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but aren’t trading Toews or Kane???


I think they're going to trade Kane this offseason. Toews has negative trade value at this point. Also, it sounds like they're not going to qualify Dylan Strome, so both Stromes will be UFAs.
Toews  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 4:12 pm : link
and Kane both could be hard trades without CHI eating money.

they're both owed over $10M in the final year of their deals and both are mid-30's.

Kane turns 34 in November and Toews is 34.
And there we have it. DeBrincat to Ottawa  
Anakim : 7/7/2022 4:17 pm : link
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli

Full trade:

To Chicago:
7th overall
39th overall
2024 3rd round pick

To Ottawa:
Alex DeBrincat
damn i know 13 is lower than 7 but i'd have kicked in next year's 1  
Eric on Li : 7/7/2022 4:20 pm : link
i think to beat that.
RE: damn i know 13 is lower than 7 but i'd have kicked in next year's 1  
KDubbs : 7/7/2022 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15748890 Eric on Li said:
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i think to beat that.


Pageau was a great trade and exciting. Dobson was a great pick. outside that Lou is really underwhelming. would be nice to do something exciting
The Blackhawks  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 4:46 pm : link
are a mess.

between the video guy assault fiasco, the awful trade for Seth Jones and now being "forced" to trade your best young asset for a pick that you hope to make on a player who can become close to as good as the player you traded away - plus your veteran "stars" are old, high paid, and close to free agency.

A good, young, sens roster just got better. I think they could make the playoffs next year with solid goal tending.
RE: And there we have it. DeBrincat to Ottawa  
Stu11 : 7/7/2022 4:47 pm : link
In comment 15748887 Anakim said:
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Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli

Full trade:

To Chicago:
7th overall
39th overall
2024 3rd round pick

To Ottawa:
Alex DeBrincat

Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there.
RE: RE: And there we have it. DeBrincat to Ottawa  
carousel : 7/7/2022 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15748909 Stu11 said:
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Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli

Full trade:

To Chicago:
7th overall
39th overall
2024 3rd round pick

To Ottawa:
Alex DeBrincat


Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there.


Fitzgerald was very clear yesterday in his press conference yesterday that, as the #2 pick has several years of team control, he's only looking for trades for players with similar term. It just came out that Ottawa has not even discussed an extension with Debrincat, and he is eligible to be an unrestricted free agent in 2 years.

Without the framework of an extension, and given the Devils' timeline, it's very tough to make that trade.
RE: RE: RE: And there we have it. DeBrincat to Ottawa  
Stu11 : 7/7/2022 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15748928 carousel said:
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Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli

Full trade:

To Chicago:
7th overall
39th overall
2024 3rd round pick

To Ottawa:
Alex DeBrincat


Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there.



Fitzgerald was very clear yesterday in his press conference yesterday that, as the #2 pick has several years of team control, he's only looking for trades for players with similar term. It just came out that Ottawa has not even discussed an extension with Debrincat, and he is eligible to be an unrestricted free agent in 2 years.

Without the framework of an extension, and given the Devils' timeline, it's very tough to make that trade.

I heard what Fitz said, and the 2 year thing is a risk. However at some point after 10 years of sucking you have to take a step forward. Nothing they are getting at #2 is a sure thing by a long shot. If they get an Alex DeBrincat at #2 that would possibly be the best draft pick in Devil's history besides Marty. I'd have rolled the dice with 2 years control. The Devil's still are loaded with prospect. If they'd have added him plus a solid goalie they can make some noise.
RE: RE: RE: RE: And there we have it. DeBrincat to Ottawa  
carousel : 7/7/2022 5:52 pm : link
In comment 15748940 Stu11 said:
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Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli

Full trade:

To Chicago:
7th overall
39th overall
2024 3rd round pick

To Ottawa:
Alex DeBrincat


Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there.



Fitzgerald was very clear yesterday in his press conference yesterday that, as the #2 pick has several years of team control, he's only looking for trades for players with similar term. It just came out that Ottawa has not even discussed an extension with Debrincat, and he is eligible to be an unrestricted free agent in 2 years.

Without the framework of an extension, and given the Devils' timeline, it's very tough to make that trade.


I heard what Fitz said, and the 2 year thing is a risk. However at some point after 10 years of sucking you have to take a step forward. Nothing they are getting at #2 is a sure thing by a long shot. If they get an Alex DeBrincat at #2 that would possibly be the best draft pick in Devil's history besides Marty. I'd have rolled the dice with 2 years control. The Devil's still are loaded with prospect. If they'd have added him plus a solid goalie they can make some noise.


Niedermeyer? Elias?

Looking for the Devils to contend for cups, not just making some noise.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: And there we have it. DeBrincat to Ottawa  
Stu11 : 7/7/2022 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15748944 carousel said:
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In comment 15748909 Stu11 said:


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Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli

Full trade:

To Chicago:
7th overall
39th overall
2024 3rd round pick

To Ottawa:
Alex DeBrincat


Wow that's a steal for Ottawa. Obviously the Devs passed. Chicago should have waited. If Montreal takes Slaf then I think the Devs will be very open to trading the pick a NB s #2 is much better than 7. If the Habs take Wright then the Devs probably keep the puck but the Ottawa trade would still have been there.



Fitzgerald was very clear yesterday in his press conference yesterday that, as the #2 pick has several years of team control, he's only looking for trades for players with similar term. It just came out that Ottawa has not even discussed an extension with Debrincat, and he is eligible to be an unrestricted free agent in 2 years.

Without the framework of an extension, and given the Devils' timeline, it's very tough to make that trade.


I heard what Fitz said, and the 2 year thing is a risk. However at some point after 10 years of sucking you have to take a step forward. Nothing they are getting at #2 is a sure thing by a long shot. If they get an Alex DeBrincat at #2 that would possibly be the best draft pick in Devil's history besides Marty. I'd have rolled the dice with 2 years control. The Devil's still are loaded with prospect. If they'd have added him plus a solid goalie they can make some noise.



Niedermeyer? Elias?

Looking for the Devils to contend for cups, not just making some noise.

Listen I'm not fuming. Keeping #2 is fine. Don't act like getting a 24 year old who if not for a Covid shortened 56 game season would have easily scored 40+ goals 3 of the past 4 seasons is some sort of quick fix veteran. Part of contending for cups is scoring goals.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: And there we have it. DeBrincat to Ottawa  
carousel : 7/7/2022 6:21 pm : link
In comment 15748955 Stu11 said:
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In comment 15748944 carousel said:


Listen I'm not fuming. Keeping #2 is fine. Don't act like getting a 24 year old who if not for a Covid shortened 56 game season would have easily scored 40+ goals 3 of the past 4 seasons is some sort of quick fix veteran. Part of contending for cups is scoring goals.



Agreed that Devils need more goal scorers. Thankfully, Slaf, Wright, and Jiricek are all excellent shooters.
I just hope  
Mike in NY : 7/7/2022 6:36 pm : link
Islanders don’t overdraft someone or take Brad Lambert because he is the coach’s son. If you are talking about drafting Lambert with the last pick in Round 2 that is one thing.
RE: RE: RE: RE: And there we have it. DeBrincat to Ottawa  
Jay on the Island : 7/7/2022 6:43 pm : link
In comment 15748940 Stu11 said:
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I heard what Fitz said, and the 2 year thing is a risk. However at some point after 10 years of sucking you have to take a step forward. Nothing they are getting at #2 is a sure thing by a long shot. If they get an Alex DeBrincat at #2 that would possibly be the best draft pick in Devil's history besides Marty. I'd have rolled the dice with 2 years control. The Devil's still are loaded with prospect. If they'd have added him plus a solid goalie they can make some noise.

I can support passing on Debrincat if there is real concern about being able to re-sign him long term. I would rather wait and try for Tkachuk if he becomes available. The Devils offense is good enough at the moment but they won't go anywhere unless they address the goaltender position.
So PJ  
Jay on the Island : 7/7/2022 7:00 pm : link
who do you think goes 1st, Wright or Slaf?
RE: So PJ  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 7:07 pm : link
In comment 15748983 Jay on the Island said:
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who do you think goes 1st, Wright or Slaf?


I can’t believe how quiet it’s been. Slaf now has the Vegas odds.

I think Wright, but Molson met with Slaf and his family today so who knows.
Best case  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 7:08 pm : link
Slaf is a smoke screen and they trade with NJD and get Wright at 2 and add a pick
MAF  
pjcas18 : 7/7/2022 7:08 pm : link
back to MIN but a 2 year deal
RE: RE: So PJ  
Jay on the Island : 7/7/2022 7:09 pm : link
In comment 15748985 pjcas18 said:
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who do you think goes 1st, Wright or Slaf?



I can’t believe how quiet it’s been. Slaf now has the Vegas odds.

I think Wright, but Molson met with Slaf and his family today so who knows.

I think it's Wright also. I read a rumor that Montreal thinks the Devils love Slaf, they probably do, and Montreal wanted to sell that they would take Slaf 1st hoping that the Devils would trade up one spot. That would be a huge win for Montreal as they would still get Wright at 2 plus more assets.
RE: MAF  
Stu11 : 7/7/2022 7:10 pm : link
In comment 15748987 pjcas18 said:
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back to MIN but a 2 year deal

Lol I can take half my apology back. It was a 2 year deal instead of one😂🤣
RE: RE: RE: So PJ  
Stu11 : 7/7/2022 7:12 pm : link
In comment 15748989 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 15748983 Jay on the Island said:


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who do you think goes 1st, Wright or Slaf?



I can’t believe how quiet it’s been. Slaf now has the Vegas odds.

I think Wright, but Molson met with Slaf and his family today so who knows.


I think it's Wright also. I read a rumor that Montreal thinks the Devils love Slaf, they probably do, and Montreal wanted to sell that they would take Slaf 1st hoping that the Devils would trade up one spot. That would be a huge win for Montreal as they would still get Wright at 2 plus more assets.

I could see that. Evidently from what I heard today on NHL Radio, the NHL GM's love screwing with the media more than any other sport
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