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Davis Webb & Daniel Jones talk the new Giants offense

Ben in Tampa : 7/5/2022 1:33 pm
The Giants Huddle podcast had the QB room on to discuss the new Daboll/Kafka offense.

Here is a stand out quote from Webb:

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"I think every year, it's evolved," Webb said about the offense. "It's always adapting, it's never the same. You're not going to see plays from 1980. You're going to see plays from this decade, and it'll continue to evolve. There's always going to be a new play each and every week. You're going to see someone across college football or high school or middle school, and if Dabes and Kafka like it, they might throw it in next week. It's always looking to improve, looking to adapt and adjust."


I don't know if I'd go so far as to suggest the Giants PR team planted a line like that for the hardcore fan base, but it sure hits close to home.

Webb certainly comes across as more of a coach than a player in this interview.

Jones is also on, but says the normal Eli-isms.

Giants Huddle Podcast - ( New Window )
You cannot...  
Brown_Hornet : 7/5/2022 1:37 pm : link
...compare Jones to Eli.

heh~
Nice interview  
JerseyCityJoe : 7/5/2022 1:46 pm : link
thx.
Great quote  
mattlawson : 7/5/2022 3:48 pm : link
Really looking forward to seeing this offense
I haven't yet listened, since I'm working,  
81_Great_Dane : 7/5/2022 3:54 pm : link
but here's a serious question: Why no plays from 1980? I mean, beyond "Because the game has changed" or "Because the rules are different" or "Because those old plays won't work against today's defenses." I'd be very interested in hearing what specifically has changed from then to now that renders those old play designs useless.

I recall reading somewhere that there's hardly any such thing as a "broken field" anymore, partly because of modern defensive schemes, so the great broken-field runners of yore would have a harder time against today's defenses. That makes sense to me. I've also heard a radio interview with Trent Dilfer where he talked about why "smashmouth football" doesn't really work anymore: Defenders are so strong and fast that offenses have to create an instant of hesitation before they attack a play. The old idea that it doesn't matter if the D knows what's coming because they can't stop it isn't true in the modern NFL. That makes sense to me, too. But I'd love to learn more about how play design has changed from then to now.

Aside from the fact that in 1980, it was a run-first game.
I wish they were saying that the quality of the players has improved  
Marty in Albany : 7/5/2022 8:12 pm : link
along with the quality of the plays.
RE: I wish they were saying that the quality of the players has improved  
broadbandz : 7/6/2022 3:11 am : link
In comment 15747693 Marty in Albany said:
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along with the quality of the plays.


Are you serious? Garrett literally had 3 players running into each other 5 yds down field as a play. Now it didnt matter because Solder got beat in less than a second, but not a single player can function in dumb ass plays like that.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OFyMDoQnhIU


Some posters here really need to go back and look at the plays Garrett ran. A hall of fame team from NFL history could not win with that horse shit.


RE: RE: I wish they were saying that the quality of the players has improved  
joeinpa : 7/6/2022 7:39 am : link
In comment 15747798 broadbandz said:
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In comment 15747693 Marty in Albany said:


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along with the quality of the plays.



Are you serious? Garrett literally had 3 players running into each other 5 yds down field as a play. Now it didnt matter because Solder got beat in less than a second, but not a single player can function in dumb ass plays like that.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OFyMDoQnhIU


Some posters here really need to go back and look at the plays Garrett ran. A hall of fame team from NFL history could not win with that horse shit.



I don’t think some realize how badly this team was coached last season

You cannot really have a discussion about playcalling and scheme  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/6/2022 7:45 am : link
when at a foundational level, we don't actually know what we're looking at. We are reaching back to references from memories watching football in the 1980s when that only exists now as ancestry of what gets done today.
How come Davis Webb's name came first in this OP title...  
Jimmy Googs : 7/6/2022 7:59 am : link
Is there something going on here that we need to know?
RE: How come Davis Webb's name came first in this OP title...  
steve in ky : 7/6/2022 8:18 am : link
In comment 15747818 Jimmy Googs said:
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Is there something going on here that we need to know?


Yeah, Ben in Tampa must be thinking of starting Webb
RE: I wish they were saying that the quality of the players has improved  
SGMen : 7/6/2022 9:29 am : link
In comment 15747693 Marty in Albany said:
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along with the quality of the plays.
The potential is there for improved play but until we "see it" on the stats and score sheet it is just that: potential.

Will Shepard have a healthy year finally? Will Galloday be any good in this system as well as healthy? Will Robinson develop quickly and be hard to cover on underneath stuff where he can race by the safety coming up? Will Toney develop and stay on the field as well? How about Bellinger over the middle on those easy grabs where he finds the hole in the defense? Finally, what about explosive Barkley and his abilities to take it to the house but he needs an OL and to stay healthy himself.

And how many times did I say "stay healthy??"
THis guy occupies a roster spot for that?  
Debaser : 7/6/2022 1:21 pm : link
So let's see how far the Giants will go to prove D JOnes doesn't suck. THey traded down to get K Toney to get him "weapons" missing the boat on a great defensive back who now plays for a division team Cowboys. They signed a Golladay to 70 mil They sign T Taylor for 18 mil (with incentives), 2 year deal partly because he can't stay on the field. Although it should be interesting to see what he could do if he ever takes the field if this offense remains terrible. They sign Webb to be a QB coach basically. Geez wouldn't have been easier to just draft Herbert or sign Mitch Trubisky?

Also 80s play would work suprisingly well I would think. The differnece now is plays like bubble screens and short passing game works wonders because they are nearly inpossible to defend with the new rules. It's just a copy cat league that is all. Ironically, the person who perfected the spread offense which everyone is copying will still bust a 1970s Rose Bowl play i.e. coach Reid in the red zone.

Otherwise this has been goin on for awhile. Wasn't it Coach Parcells luughing at coach Walsh for using the wishbone formation a lot in a scab game from the 80s?

RE: How come Davis Webb's name came first in this OP title...  
Klaatu : 7/6/2022 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15747818 Jimmy Googs said:
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Is there something going on here that we need to know?


It's just age before beauty.
Wow I knew there was Jones homerism here  
Debaser : 7/6/2022 2:12 pm : link
but it sounds like some posters actually want to have sex wit t him
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