AAA TBD
AAA2 TBD
AA Vargas ( I realize you need bodies to soak up innings but.... 0-5 with an 8.90 era....? lol His teammates must be thinking "okay enough of this guy)
A+ Zwack
A Atencio
Highlights from yesterday-
FCL Mets OF Hector Rodriguez is now hitting .391 through his first 17 games in 2022 and is now a career a .333 career hitter through 59 professional games
Another solid start from 19-year-old SP Jose Acuna. 5 innings 6 hits 3 er 2 walks 6 k's (era now down to 2.53)
Everything I've heard is they don't feel he's defensively ready to come up in a pennant race. Maybe they get desperate but I've yet to speak to anybody who feels the glove is MLB ready. Trouble with balls he has to come in for, bunts and going to his right. Who knows? Maybe they just roll with it, but he's also not on the 40 ma, which doesn't help his chances.
When is he coming stateside? Would be nice to be in on some of these top Japanese guys for once. No offense to Shinjo
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phenom Munetaka Murakami hit 14 homers in June.... he's 22. What a beast.
When is he coming stateside? Would be nice to be in on some of these top Japanese guys for once. No offense to Shinjo
I've yet to find a definitive answer other than "a few years". Jim Allen (an authority on Japanese baseball) doesn't have him listed for the next 2 (it's a list, and he's not on) so.... it'll be a bit but he's being talked about as "Ohtani-like" offensively.
It's uninsured aka if they don't sign the player they get nothing.
Brandon Maya #1-Yankees
Ethan Salas #2 Padres
Felnin Celestin #3 Mariners
There have been rumors the Mets are believed to have a very strong 2024 class (haven't seen them tied to any 2023 names) but this all could be moot if there is a deal, or if there is a deal beginning in 2023.
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what happens if the Mets don't sign the player they pick with the Rocker pick this year? Does it move to the next year again? Not sure if you can get it back twice like that or not
It's uninsured aka if they don't sign the player they get nothing.
Thanks. Though contract terms are generally discussed beforehand, I wonder if this will have any effect on their draft strategy. The player drafted at 11 will have quite a bit of leverage, as it would be a disaster for the Mets to not sign that player.
I know this is a minors thread but wanted to bring up two things:
What the hell is wrong with Brian McCann? How can you go from what he was over 536 ABs in 2019-2020 for the White Sox, which was an above average hitter, to being this impossibly bad? Less than a .500 OPS over 86 plate appearances. An OPS+ of...42!
This is completely unsustainable. He can't have any trade value right now...so what do they do? Eat about $24 million when Alvarez is ready? And honestly, if McCann is this much of a black hole in the lineup a month from now, and Alvarez is murdering AAA pitching, do you live with whatever defense Alvarez brings with him for his bat?
Finally, I'm sure I've talked about it before but that swing by Dom where he lets go of the bat with his top hand on the follow through...that's a "make contact" swing. It's taking away all his power. I'm not sure why he wants to be Dave Magadan but it's not working for him or the club. I don't think he's a major league bat as long as he's swinging the bat that way. He needs to hit for power. Agree?
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We need a friggin 33rd basemen.
Everything I've heard is they don't feel he's defensively ready to come up in a pennant race. Maybe they get desperate but I've yet to speak to anybody who feels the glove is MLB ready. Trouble with balls he has to come in for, bunts and going to his right. Who knows? Maybe they just roll with it, but he's also not on the 40 ma, which doesn't help his chances.
Thanks Dan. I don't expect him this year, but next year is what I was really wondering about. Do you think he might be an option then/ I know Escobar is signed through next year with 2024 being an option year. I should have clarified, my mistake.
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what happens if the Mets don't sign the player they pick with the Rocker pick this year? Does it move to the next year again? Not sure if you can get it back twice like that or not
It's uninsured aka if they don't sign the player they get nothing.
Then would it make sense to maybe offer, say, the equivalent of 20th pick money to someone like Connor Prielipp at 11? Signficant savings versus slot to land more names if you spread out among a few picks and had he been healthy all year you would be lucky to get him for slot at 11. Or go completely off the board with someone like Cooper Hjerpe where even less money may be needed, but the stats on him are absurd with the inability to make contact and strikeout totals.
I always call him Brian, too. Wish he hit like him...
-As for McCann, why he was able to cobble together about 600 ab's of good offensive output, you'd have to ask scouts but he's been a bad hitter for the vast majority of his career. 1658 PA's coming into 2019 76 OPS+, 2021 OPS+.... 76. Now he's been even worse than that this year but he also broke his hand and is a 32 year old C.
-Unrelated but I just saw Mancini would have 8 more home runs if he played all of his games CitiField.
My guess is they swing a trade, but waste valuable games between now and closer to the deadline waiting to do so.
But in most innings he shook him off a ton. Several times Scherzer wanted to throw the slider and McCann did not put down the slider sign until the fourth try.
Scherzer knows what he wants to throw. So, the whole idea that Alvarez won't be able to call a game is completely overblown imo. Maybe with Peterson or some other young pitchers. But with the veteran pitchers, I don't think it will make much difference.
But in most innings he shook him off a ton. Several times Scherzer wanted to throw the slider and McCann did not put down the slider sign until the fourth try.
Scherzer knows what he wants to throw. So, the whole idea that Alvarez won't be able to call a game is completely overblown imo. Maybe with Peterson or some other young pitchers. But with the veteran pitchers, I don't think it will make much difference.
Gotta disagree strongly. Scherzer strongly prefers throwing to Nido and this has been well established (they even did off-season work together in Florida). If it were up to Scherzer/deGrom they would throw to Nido over McCann exclusively, Bassitt also on record as felling more comfortable with McCann.
Scherzer with McCann catching .261/.277/.326
Scherzer with Mazeika catching .304/.333/.348
Veteran pitchers almost all care about who is catching (not all) but most, some are vocal about it and some are not.
the bar is so low right now there's just no downside. he's been a slow starter sure, but the start of the season is over. yes MLB pitching is unquestionably a different ball game but so is hitting 7th or 8th in a lineup vs. hitting 3rd/4th with every pitcher having you circled ahead of the game doing everything they can to not give up a homer.
with McCann .599 OPS against
with Nido .773
the bar is so low right now there's just no downside. he's been a slow starter sure, but the start of the season is over. yes MLB pitching is unquestionably a different ball game but so is hitting 7th or 8th in a lineup vs. hitting 3rd/4th with every pitcher having you circled ahead of the game doing everything they can to not give up a homer.
Vientos had a .568 OPS in April this year
Vientos had a .689 OPS April of 2021 aka his first month in AA
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in 11 games he hit 3 homers and slashed .278 /.395/.583, which was pretty similar but slightly better than his yearlong AA numbers. he also got more selective walking 16% of the time. looking at 2018 and 2019 he didn't get promoted in-season either year so not sure where there's a track record of him struggling when moving up beyond slow starts.
the bar is so low right now there's just no downside. he's been a slow starter sure, but the start of the season is over. yes MLB pitching is unquestionably a different ball game but so is hitting 7th or 8th in a lineup vs. hitting 3rd/4th with every pitcher having you circled ahead of the game doing everything they can to not give up a homer.
Vientos had a .568 OPS in April this year
Vientos had a .689 OPS April of 2021 aka his first month in AA
I think Eric's point is that Vientos is a slow starter to the season, in April. Not necessarily that he is a slow starter when he is called up a level. It just so happens to be that players are often called up a level in April. When he went up to AAA late last year, he was fine. When he started off in AAA this year in April, he started slow, even though he had a taste of AAA last year and did well.
Thus, while there is certainly a concern about going from AAA to majors, Vientos is not a concern to have any extraordinary adjustment if done later in the season, rather than April.
this year's slow start made that 2 in a row so maybe it becomes a true trend next year, but right now we are mid-season now so im not sure how that's more relevant to the fact that he's hit almost .300 for 2 months now and surged his power numbers where you'd expect them to be.
i think the mets are just overthinking this. like alonso he's been one of the best power hitters in the minors for the last year+. we can always find stats to nitpick but the reality is he's shown as much power as any player in the minors and done so with a respectable BA and walk rate (both I believe above league averages). And his lefty splits (1.100 OPS) would fill a very specific need right away.
I can't speak for Carrasco/Walker because I've actually never heard either publicly or "privately" who prefers whom but Scherzer/deGrom prefer Nido and Bassitt prefers McCann, the others likely have a preference (most do) but no clue.
this year's slow start made that 2 in a row so maybe it becomes a true trend next year, but right now we are mid-season now so im not sure how that's more relevant to the fact that he's hit almost .300 for 2 months now and surged his power numbers where you'd expect them to be.
i think the mets are just overthinking this. like alonso he's been one of the best power hitters in the minors for the last year+. we can always find stats to nitpick but the reality is he's shown as much power as any player in the minors and done so with a respectable BA and walk rate (both I believe above league averages). And his lefty splits (1.100 OPS) would fill a very specific need right away.
And they very well may be. I'm just parroting their thinking. JD Davis may hit the ball hard but enough is enough, he's pushing 30 and simply hasn't hit.
I can 100% understand defense being a concern but since the opening is at DH i think that gets nullified.
I think the reason they aren't calling him up is deference to JDD/Dom since they are guys who have 'paid dues', and its the first thing i disagree with that i think ultimately falls to buck. they rightfully showed accountability matters with Cano. they are being hypocritical now because the numbers post-Cano have been almost as bad and they aren't making a change.
If Vientos fails you go back to Dom/JDD. None of them should stand in the way of a good trade - but they've already been putting it out there that they aren't trading a big prospect for a hitter or reliever so realistically not sure what they are expecting to get.
Maybe the Mets fully intend to trade for a DH (boy, Josh Bell would be nice....and,I was hoping the Red Sox would be dead by now and JD Martinez would be available), hence the status quo with the DH position but..
At this point, I walk out of the room with other things to do at night whenever JD or Smith, (or McCann) come to the plate...."automatic out" doesn't do them justice. Dom shows some hope since his call-up, but JD (who seems like a good teammate) is on the wrong side of 30 and hasn't been able to catch up with a high heater all season. Enough with this guy....I think he may be DFA'd if and when a trade happens.
Regarding McCann, this is the trouble with bad contracts...not only do you have to pay the guy, but you (at least it seems in every sport) have to play them too, hoping you'll get some ROI...When McCann comes up with runners on and less than 2 outs, I count anything that's not a DP as a win...Nido's swing is too long, but he seems to hit a bit with RISP..
So, if Pete, Lindor, Squirrel, etc, have an off game, there are too many other dead spots to pick them up.
Escobar has been bad too, but shows some signs of life....
.260/.356/.585
21 homers, 67 rbis, 33 walks, 78 k's
Vientos AAA (69 games / 287 plate appearances)
.251/.348/.506
17 homers, 43 rbis, 35 walks, 88 k's
there is a pretty vast amount of room for Vientos to be not as good right away as Alonso and still be a lot better than what we've seen at DH so far this year.
Nice... from the thread the day he pitched:
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1 HBP
6 batters faced, 5 Ks
Hopefully he comes out feeling good and we see 40 pitches on Friday or Saturday
@MartinJGallegos
Frankie Montas’ MRI showed inflammation in his shoulder but no structural damage. Received a cortisone shot, per A’s trainer Nick Paparesta. He will not make his next start in the rotation but no decision on an IL stint yet. He’s day to day.
Let's a deal with Mauricio and smith gets him and Laureno, do you do that?
gotta think this spooked Oakland to some degree because a season long injury basically ends his career there with 0 return.
Sarmiento 1-4, K
Cuevas 1-3, BB
Ramirez 90
Vientos unranked
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Martín Gallegos
@MartinJGallegos
Frankie Montas’ MRI showed inflammation in his shoulder but no structural damage. Received a cortisone shot, per A’s trainer Nick Paparesta. He will not make his next start in the rotation but no decision on an IL stint yet. He’s day to day.
Let's a deal with Mauricio and smith gets him and Laureno, do you do that?
gotta think this spooked Oakland to some degree because a season long injury basically ends his career there with 0 return.
Tyler Mahle also ILed with a shoulder strain.
Ramirez 90
Vientos unranked
Don't get that. Give me Vientos any day over Mauricio. I get that he doesn't have the defensive ability or athleticism, but come on.
Baty #73
Vientos #74
it looks like their list is pretty recent because PCA is #49.
all of them are 50 grade so not sure the exact order matters much. Martino said last week he thinks the Mets view Vientos/Baty as very unlikely to be traded in a way Mauricio is not.
Baty #73
Vientos #74
it looks like their list is pretty recent because PCA is #49.
all of them are 50 grade so not sure the exact order matters much. Martino said last week he thinks the Mets view Vientos/Baty as very unlikely to be traded in a way Mauricio is not.
It's not recent. They have their own system where they add names as they go. He was added on 6/14.
"Six other players have moved into the 50 FV, four of whom were anticipated coming into the season and two of whom weren’t. Cubs center fielder Pete Crow-Armstrong and Braves center fielder Michael Harris II have both made swing changes. PCA made his change in the offseason and has had time to generate a meaningful sample showing that it has indeed unlocked meaningful pull-power to go with his incredible center field defense. He now ranks among the other excellent up-the-middle defenders poised to make at least one-note offensive impact, in the 40-50 overall range of the list. "
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@MartinJGallegos
Frankie Montas’ MRI showed inflammation in his shoulder but no structural damage. Received a cortisone shot, per A’s trainer Nick Paparesta. He will not make his next start in the rotation but no decision on an IL stint yet. He’s day to day.
Let's a deal with Mauricio and smith gets him and Laureno, do you do that?
gotta think this spooked Oakland to some degree because a season long injury basically ends his career there with 0 return.
Tyler Mahle also ILed with a shoulder strain.
just saw that. i'd guess it's unlikely either of him or montas throw again before the deadline. maybe 1 "prove it" start, but honestly don't think that will change much beyond whatever the team docs think.
let's assume team docs are comfortable with the MRIs, would anyone roll the dice on Mauricio for Montas? it's a risk but i think the upside is worth it and we have the depth with scherzer/jdg getting closer to rest him for a stretch run if that's what it takes.
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same. I'd probably try to swap Laureno and Dom in the process too. he hits lefties and adds a real solid 4th OF'er.
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less high on Mauricio than some of you so it's no surprise, I would absolutely do Mauricio for Montas assuming the Mets doctors looked over the results and (like the A's doctors) didn't see structural damage. Alderson has an excellent relationship with Beane/Forst.
same. I'd probably try to swap Laureno and Dom in the process too. he hits lefties and adds a real solid 4th OF'er.
I like that plan of action as well.
Wouldn't he have close to 10 more HRs in other parks, including Citi? Presumably, a lot of those were turned to outs, so certainly that effects those numbers as well.
He's having a good year on bad team despite inconsistency in past few years but assume Pirates would be willing to deal.
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and Mancini are both very good and I'd take either one but I'm not sure I'd term Mancini an "impact bat". He's 56th in wRC+/52nd in wOBA.
Wouldn't he have close to 10 more HRs in other parks, including Citi? Presumably, a lot of those were turned to outs, so certainly that effects those numbers as well.
I wish it were as simple as that. But they do not take into account weather, wind gusts even etc. Jason Bay supposedly was going to be a monster at CitiField due to very similar projections.
“ The Web site hittrackeronline.com provides cutting-edge data about every home run hit in Major League contests in 2009. Included in these data are translated distances for all homers, showing how far each would go under standardized conditions of weather and circumstance.
By comparing the standard distance of each of Bay's homers to the standard dimensions of Citi Field, accounting for the part of the park to which Bay hit each and for the differences in wall height between Citi and Bay's old home (Boston's Fenway Park), we can begin to get a picture of the overall impact of his move.
This gets very involved, but in essence, it's a wash. That's right. Bay hit 15 of his round-trippers at home last season. Citi Field's much deeper dimensions (the left-field foul pole is some 25 feet farther away than is Fenway's) would suppress that total to just 10. ”
Unfortunately, Citifield represses power beyond its dimensions and the Mets have been unable to identify why. So “X homers in Citifield” based on dimensions isn’t really accurate.
“ The overall context is this: Since 2009, the Mets have posted a better home OPS than road OPS just three times. They’ve had a better slugging percentage at home than on the road just three times, none of them since 2011. The club has moved the walls in, it’s installed a humidor, and it’s thought, through different front-office regimes, about why the ballpark plays the way it does.
Citi Field is one of the things I’ve been trying to wrap my head around,” acting general manager Zack Scott said in August (before he was placed on administrative leave later in the summer while awaiting trial on a charge of driving while intoxicated). “The ballpark suppresses exit velocity, which is one of the weirder things I’ve ever seen. It’s not about wind or dimensions. It’s about the ball off the bat.”
I like Bell but I think that pricetag is going to be higher than we want. Mancini too.
I like Bell but I think that pricetag is going to be higher than we want. Mancini too.
Mike Elias and Sig Megdal are extremely well regarded and very smart, not saying Eppler isn’t but I’d be nervous dealing with them
adding Cruz, Laureno, and Montas for Mauricio, Butto, Dom, JDD would be a massive upgrade to the 40 man. Add a vet reliever who is mostly salary dump (Minor!) and they are in good shape.
that statcast profile is very '95 or walk'. with about $6-7m left to pay the rest of the year i can't imagine there's going to be a long line of teams for him willing to eat all of it.
adding Cruz, Laureno, and Montas for Mauricio, Butto, Dom, JDD would be a massive upgrade to the 40 man. Add a vet reliever who is mostly salary dump (Minor!) and they are in good shape.
You’d like to think so but the Rays did give up Joe Ryan just last year for him
Dom has been AWFUL
Paddack needed TJ
Hosmer despite his blistering start 0.4 fWAR making 18 million per
Pagan-
Aaron Gleeman
@AaronGleeman
Emilio Pagán now has a 7.40 ERA in 41 appearances dating back to last September 1, including 14 homers allowed in 38 innings.
Pagán has the worst ERA and the worst Win Probability Added of any MLB reliever during that time, allowing one homer for every eight outs he's recorded.
@mikemayer22
Mets designated hitters are slashing .224/.303/.371 this season.
That includes an .868 OPS from Pete Alonso and 1.194 OPS from Francisco Lindor in that role.
If you take out Alonso and Lindor, they have only 2 home runs and 18 RBIs in 212 at-bats.
traded away, very few examples of them trading away starting pitching that has developed with other teams in recent seasons #Mets
Showalter
David Cone replacing Hefner
Leiter in some sort of role
Keith Hernandez as a coach? lol
Showalter
David Cone replacing Hefner
Leiter in some sort of role
Keith Hernandez as a coach? lol
he lost me at keeping Jeff Wilpon.
im not sure there’s been a single week since mid may that he didn’t match the Mets DH year long total of 2 homers.
https://twitter.com/psltoflushing/status/1544816104417247232?s=21&t=hxdbiBbqH_ZnL0bg4RCiZA - ( New Window )
20 years old in AAA. He'll be ok