for a 5th round pick.
A new QB in Carolina: The #Panthers are acquiring former No. 1 overall pick Baker Mayfield from the #Browns for a 2024 conditional 5th-round draft pick, sources tell me and @TomPelissero. Deal is pending a physical. All parties split the financials to make it happen.
Well played, well played!
First domino to fall. Jimmy G should be moving on soon
Panthers pay 5 mil
Baker takes pay cut as well.
Panthers pay 5 mil
Baker takes pay cut as well.
He can earn all that "paycut" back via incentives
Maybe they would trade for Daniel Jones next year. LOL
No kidding.
It just seem slike if anyone should be pissed its Baker.
It just seem slike if anyone should be pissed its Baker.
Baker should be grateful he’s employed. Why should he be pissed off? He isn’t that good and the browns wanted to upgrade qb.
Baker would be starting in Cleveland if he was good. He isn’t. He’s average.
It just seem slike if anyone should be pissed its Baker.
Baker should be grateful he’s employed. Why should he be pissed off? He isn’t that good and the browns wanted to upgrade qb.
Baker would be starting in Cleveland if he was good. He isn’t. He’s average.
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They didn't like how Baker handled it?
It just seem slike if anyone should be pissed its Baker.
Baker should be grateful he’s employed. Why should he be pissed off? He isn’t that good and the browns wanted to upgrade qb.
Baker would be starting in Cleveland if he was good. He isn’t. He’s average.
He did everything we would want a QB to do. Not use injuries as an excuse, play with a torn labrum in his shoulder, and a bad knee. Yeah he wasn't great considering the injuries We still want players to play hurt. I get the hard feelings considering he was dumped for a sex offender.
I see a possible New England reunion soon in Cleveland.
#domination
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They didn't like how Baker handled it?
It just seem slike if anyone should be pissed its Baker.
Baker should be grateful he’s employed. Why should he be pissed off? He isn’t that good and the browns wanted to upgrade qb.
Baker would be starting in Cleveland if he was good. He isn’t. He’s average.
He did everything we would want a QB to do. Not use injuries as an excuse, play with a torn labrum in his shoulder, and a bad knee. Yeah he wasn't great considering the injuries We still want players to play hurt. I get the hard feelings considering he was dumped for a sex offender.
yea i mean look if he was dumped simply because of the injuries ok fine, but I just don't think the guy is that good to begin with. He had a damn good team around him and never really scored many points or won that much. He's ok, you can do worse that's for sure, but if I am a team like the Browns with a window to compete for the next few year I want more out of the QB than just rah rah placeholder.
You can't resist can you lol.
No, I won't advocate for that kind of deal or at least I would feel some trepidation about it but not every statistical compiled season is created equally. Context...it's kind of a big deal.
Every play seems to be a designed rollout. He can't see the entire field. He's tough to be sure. He's vocal ( couldn't care less really) and you can win with him, but you won't win because of him. THat's why the Browns looked to Watson.
Baker is average. He's the very embodiment of average. He won't move the needle in Carolina but he won't be Sam Darnold either. Not a bad move to get him there.
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In comment 15748053 Debaser said:
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They didn't like how Baker handled it?
It just seem slike if anyone should be pissed its Baker.
Baker should be grateful he’s employed. Why should he be pissed off? He isn’t that good and the browns wanted to upgrade qb.
Baker would be starting in Cleveland if he was good. He isn’t. He’s average.
He did everything we would want a QB to do. Not use injuries as an excuse, play with a torn labrum in his shoulder, and a bad knee. Yeah he wasn't great considering the injuries We still want players to play hurt. I get the hard feelings considering he was dumped for a sex offender.
yea i mean look if he was dumped simply because of the injuries ok fine, but I just don't think the guy is that good to begin with. He had a damn good team around him and never really scored many points or won that much. He's ok, you can do worse that's for sure, but if I am a team like the Browns with a window to compete for the next few year I want more out of the QB than just rah rah placeholder.
Mayfield's biggest problem is his attitude.
I think he has decent QBing ability and moxie, but absolute garbage leadership abilities.
One of the least mature NFL QBs over the last two decades.
He asked to be traded and they wanted a upgrade. Hard to bring that combo back to your team. Now they have the Watson issue to deal with.
I don't think so, atleast not any serious posters. You didn't earn $35m with 1 above average year of football. And 2020 Baker didn't score 30 times, even prorated for 17 games.
But I'll take having that problem, I'm confident Schoen would do the right thing.
Carolina obviously has no confidence in Darnold. Nor should they. He'll likely be cut at the end of the year.
Carolina obviously has no confidence in Darnold. Nor should they. He'll likely be cut at the end of the year.
How do you really know that? Maybe since they were able to pick him up for a song figured -- why not?
Not me. But so what if there are some fans on BBI that would be ok with that after a season like that? What’s your point?
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If Jones wins 11/12 regular season games, wins a playoff game, and has 28/9 3800 YD in his contract year, I think plenty of BBIers would support paying Jones in the midrange for veteran starting QBs.
Not me. But so what if there are some fans on BBI that would be ok with that after a season like that? What’s your point?
My point is Mayfield just a season ago played at a level I believe a lot of fans would find very attractive if Jones hit.
And that 35M AAV is the going rate for a guy in the second tier of starting veteran starters.
So if Jones duplicates Mayfield's 2020, in 2022 what would you do?
If you total his throwing TDs from 2020, 2021 and 2022.
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If Jones wins 11/12 regular season games, wins a playoff game, and has 28/9 3800 YD in his contract year, I think plenty of BBIers would support paying Jones in the midrange for veteran starting QBs.
Not me. But so what if there are some fans on BBI that would be ok with that after a season like that? What’s your point?
My point is Mayfield just a season ago played at a level I believe a lot of fans would find very attractive if Jones hit.
And that 35M AAV is the going rate for a guy in the second tier of starting veteran starters.
So if Jones duplicates Mayfield's 2020, in 2022 what would you do?
That’s a tough question. I’m not Jones’ biggest fan based on previous results so it’ll take a lot to impress me. There are many variables at play. If I had to answer right now without any other context and he put up those numbers and led them to a playoff win? Based on where that would put them in the draft and assuming no other better options available, I’m signing him to the franchise tag. It would be costly but I’d want to see more evidence that he’s finally ready to be a franchise QB. One outlier season isn’t enough to commit to a long term deal. Do it again and we’ll talk
17 of his TD's were inside the 10, 11 inside the 5. I don't know how that stacks up against the rest of the league as far as TD %, but it shows me that he specifically doesn't really do much downfield despite having a great run game.
So if Jones has that type of year then no, you don't pay him $35m per year because it would mean that the run game is carrying the team.
Bazinga!