How are you feeling about the Giants this year?

Just give me meaningful football come Halloween. I'm not asking for much.

Need the Qb of the future.

In comment 15760610 Angus said:

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Need the Qb of the future.

That's the biggest thing to look forward to.

The new GM, Asst, GM, new scouts and personnel directors, new head coach and new position coaches, the draft, the FAs. It’s a fresh start and there are so many players that will be interesting to follow and see how/if they develop. No clue on how good they will be but one of the most interesting seasons I can remember.

Hope for more. Glad football is back.

I guess if there's nothing else to bitch about you can always bitch about Chris Mara because, I guess, he has single handedly ruined the organization.

No one can say....Definitely not on any of them.

Been saying it for 10 years, fix the OL and let's see what happens! On paper, OL has more options, more talent and I am more hopeful than the recent past.

Same can be said about the pass rush. Actually, with Wink....more pressure on the QB will happen. How well will the pass rush be without blitzing?

And the bigger question, can the corners hold coverage long enough? Certainly seems like Giants understands this.....as they keep bringing in corners.

We can debate how talented are the skill players....but the primary worry....is just keeping them on the field.

We can't answer how good are the players....if they are nursing injuries.

We have higher hope with the schemes. Offensive play calling should be better....not exactly a high hurdle.

I prefer an aggressive defense over a bend not break....

But I see us much more competitve with a more modern offense. Not sure Jones can handle it but it should be worlds better than the last 4-5 years.

Looking forward seeing the 2nd year and rookies be impactful players.

A good bit better than 2 years ago? I am hopeful for dramatic improvement but realize it’s likely only going to be marginal. The team will be better though.

It’s a quarterbacks league and I don’t think we have one. I like the new GM because he worked his way up from the bottom and seems qualified and capable. I hope the HC can make this team respectable. But I’m fairly certain that Josh Allen was the reason the Bills offense was so good. Until we aren’t terrible, we’re terrible.

This is still one of the 5 shittiest rosters in the sport. My focus will be on the guys who figure to be here long term on Sunday’s and watching top qb’s on Saturday’s.

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In comment 15760610 Angus said:

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Need the Qb of the future.

You’re right. The QB’s playing on Saturday will be a huge point of emphasis this season. My point is more not being 1-7 to start the season again.

but before every season i am..

I exoect the offense to be more fun to watch, faster and more high scoring but to make a lot of mistakes

The defense i expect to be fast and flying around, excited about ojulari and Thibs..I want to see Beavers starting inside by the end of the year

It really caused that ownership group to make the changes they did and for Mara to step back and approach the hiring process in a different fashion then prior flawed processes. And it really caught a lot of posters on this site offguard as many were posting how he/they would never change and we would be stuck with Abrams, Pettit and Chris Mara wearing multiple hats once again.

We are obviously not sure they got it right with Schoen, Brown, Daboll and the others. But we already know the previous approaches were failures so this give rise to some optimism through sheer common-sense change.

And additional turnovers and title changes in the front office within the personnel dept. and scouting groups is another nice sign that Schoen has the reins and is accumulating the proper level of control.

And lastly, the Schoen/Daboll football mind coming to the conclusion that the Daniel Jones 5th year option should not be exercised, and pushing that through is yet another good sign.

The roster is nothing more than a WIP due to the disasterous last 4 years, so Schoen will need more than just one draft and a few measily dollars under the cap to fix it. Wouldn't say he hit the ball out of the park on draft weekend, but at least we invested properly in the OL & DL.

Onward and hopefully upward.

I don't think they'll be any good this year, but I'm curious to see what they have in store for us.

I at least have hope that they will turn this around over the next two seasons. And that's a lot more than I've had to look forward to in a while.

They’ll challenge for the Super Bowl.

This year thou I really think it’ll happen.

improvements and then I remember getting excited in years past only to be let down.

I want to root for my team starting out in a fresh new season

But a lot of damage to my fandom has been done.

I will attempt to rustle up some enthusiasm for all the rooks and young players hustling their butts out there.

But if Jones turns the ball over like he has in the past then I will likely be switching my allegiance over to Da Bears who also have experienced much suckitude in the past decade and if they continue to suck then I will just wait for hockey and basketball season to begin.

Jints beware! My patience is running thin...very thin.

Give me something to root for

That a lot of posters stated would never happen……happened.

As for the season, would be nice to see a professional offense in place, some come from behind victories, a score in final 2 minutes of the half, a winning record at some point in the season, a legit chance at the division come December, and dare I state……. Playoffs!

but I think this team will keep games close and maybe win 8-9 games. I expect the OL to be much better, and have a better pass rush. We may need it, as our DB’s are going to be a title green.

I think they are going to be better than what we think. I wouldn’t be surprised if they reach .500. It depends on the offensive line, though.

Numb. Mildly disgusted.

Feeling a lot of 1970s deja vu. Not this shit again.

But also cautiously hopeful. I think the new regime is making long-overdue moves and sidelining the failed old cronies and nepotistic hires.

I have no idea what to expect on the field. A lot comes down to Jones, and at this point, how can anyone tell what kind of player he really is? He looked promising under Shurmur, less so under JJ and Garrett — but JJ et al turned out to be, um, a clown show.

(1) Addition by Subtraction
(2) Better Coaching
(3) Underdeveloped Players getting better
(4) New Additions
(5) Offensive and Defensive Scheme updates

its coaching that matters in this league. It's analogous to caring who the Athletics Director in college is - albeit coaching is in many ways more important in college.

As a HC 'prospect' I would rate Daboll above the dismal previous three who had all obvious shocking flaws, but below Rhule and Rodriguez - yeah yeah I know f' you and your hindsight. Guess we can check off that box finally "No Obvious Shocking Flaws That Would Make You Wonder if This Coach is Capable of Managing a White Castle Night Shift".

My hope is one 9 and 8. I hope Jones takes team on back and wins games with his arm more than once or twice. Excited for Dabs and Wink. See if Saquon can produce at all.

Cautiously optimistic. Not in the sense that I expect a playoff team, but in the sense that I feel like we're in better, more reliable hands now and that under competent leadership, we'll see gradual improvement rather than just spinning our wheels in garbage like we did the entire time Gettleman was here.

A new football season is always exciting. Looking forward to seeing Kayvon and Evan Neal on the field. There's a lot to watch and keep an eye on.

4-6 wins.

Max.

A brand-new Head Coach; brand new coaching staff; brand new systems; lots and lots of players who've never played with one another...

...can't expect miracles in Year One.

All of the off the field stuff they did was superb. The product on the field is limited due to the team having to take it's salary cap medicine this year, but next year will be a different deal with 9 more picks in the Draft. I expect 4 to 6 wins and another Top 10 pick in the draft. If we can find the QB of the future next April, then I'll be ecstatic. This is gonna be another bad season, but that's ok. I'll enjoy the rookies and other youngsters.

hoping for 8 to 10 wins and get the ship sailing again...

...As I usually am at this time of year. I am looking forward to seeing what this new regime can do.
I do not expect playoffs, but I am hopeful that there will be improvements in play calling and execution.
And I am expecting to see improvement week to week.

My overall expectation is that there will be a solid foundation in place, from which they can build for the future.

Our schedule is REALLY easy.

The team will suck but I am back on board as a fan with the new regime. But they are rebuilding from a low, low place.

for the reasons you cited. A lot of outside hires which indicate to me that the Maras finally understood they had to go outside the organization to have any chance of turning this around. Their stubborn refusal to do so earlier of course basically ruined the last five years at least, but we are hopefully on the right track now.

As for the season, I think we'll see better play from Jones and Barkley, but with so many unproven new players, my guess is seven or eight wins at the most. That would leave me very excited going into 2023.

Bye week, I think the best we can hope for is a 3-5 record. That means to get more than 7 wins for the season, the Giants will need to be above 0.500 for the second half. Even my optimistic self doesn’t think that can happen.

So 7 wins.

Can't help the team benefits tremendously from just ridding itself of the turds Engram/Solder/Hernandez scholarships.

12-5 baby.

Big hope is they start to once again win the battles on the OL and front 7. It won't be what it needs to be but much better than its been for what seems like forever.

On offense, the OT's will be the key. If both are above average and don't need help, BD/MK will be able to implement the majority of the offense. Despite some still denying the pass poor protection when you have to constantly devote extra resources to helping your tackles it messes up everything.

Wink wants a physical front 7 that stops the run. I still think they need a ILB but I would think he likes a lot of his pieces in this area. Hopefully Jackson stays healthy and the young secondary battles and grows.

Get 4 division wins and they are playing for the playoffs the last two weeks imv.

Throwing up for days. Can't even keep water down. Sweating buckets.

Then the day its over. You're not throwing up anymore. You still feel like complete ass, but you can eat some saltines and go for a short walk?

Thats how I feel about the Giants this year

Head says: this team was 4-6 without Barkley, Toney, or Golladay playing together much. Then DJ went down and we went 0-7. So if those guys can play together behind a hopefully improved OL, I think we can win as many as 8 games this year.

Heart says: this is the NY football Gs we’re talking about here; the football gods have decreed that there is no way we win more than 6 ever again.

the sky's the limit! Right?

Or are they now just playing games with you conspiracy theorists by giving him a Consultant title...

No matter the outcome, I feel great. I’m not a particular bright guy, but I know the difference between a brain dead doofus like Gettleman and savvy manager like Schoen.

They’re still an embarrassing pile of dog shit and a horrible waste of my time and money. And I hope they’re all reading this.

and possibly even somewhat entertaining. If they have anything over a .500 season, they will have righted the ship. That's about the most I could expect or ask for after ONE offseason of a new front office. This was a team that by the end of last season had less than 6 guys who were worth a damn.

Show me a new offense designed for today's game. That's designed on the strengths of the QB and personnel. Figure out whether Jones is "the guy." Show me the OL is better. Show me that Thibodeaux is an impact player, and that the pass rush is better. Show me Barkley contributing as a difference-maker once again.

Those things would be signs of the turn-around we all want to see.

In comment 15760795 Jimmy Googs said:

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the sky's the limit! Right? Or are they now just playing games with you conspiracy theorists by giving him a Consultant title...

Googs Mara couldn't resist himself!

and being competitive in most of the others would be a wild improvement.

Showing the ability to actually score points and have a competent offense would make me ridiculously excited

I am cautiously optimistic. My hope is to see something akin to the 84 Giants. A team just on the cusp of greatness. Going into the 84 season, I don’t think there was an overwhelming appreciation for Phil Simms. I’m sure a lot of fans were clamoring for a new QB. I’d really like to see DJ deliver this year. He should get better protection, and maybe Barkley can get decent blocks and move the chains (not pirouetting for 2 yard losses). It’s not unreasonable to think Neal and Thomas can become two gold jacket ends. Probable ? no, Possible? Oh yeah.

Receivers? Old school Giants always made do with what they had. McConkey, Lionel Manuel, Stacey Robinson etc. I am hopeful Toney puts it together and becomes a real threat like Deebo, Tyreek etc. The rest of the crew needs to step up and deliver.

But really what we need is the defense to deliver. Thibs can be that guy. He has the potential to be the focal point of the D, to make everybody better. Wink might be the guy to dial it up- bring us back to being the team no one wants to play. Crazed dogs.

Can’t be .500 with a 17 game season, so I’ll go with 9-8.

about the future but the team is going to suck as far as W-L record goes. Roster is really bad and Jones isnt good enough to elevate it. My hope is they are actually competitive and the games arent total snooze fests. I dont need them to win, but at least compete and make the game entertaining. Even when the team has won in last couple years the games have been remarkably boring.

Same as last year. 4-13.

In comment 15760817 State Your Name said:

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They’re still an embarrassing pile of dog shit and a horrible waste of my time and money. And I hope they’re all reading this.

I think this post is being way too kind.

most fun we have this season.

In comment 15760850 Marty in Albany said:

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most fun we have this season.

As opposed to when?

Most anticipated years were those early Coughlin years for me. No way does this come close to the summer months of 2005 going into that season after getting Plaxico, Pierce and Kareem McKenzie in the off-season.

Now we're just aspiring for a .500 record. Best of luck.